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PointUI to replace Today Screen

When using PointUI, the app minimized and you are returned to the Today screen when hitting the End Button/Red Button. Is there anyway to disable this from happening? Meaning, is there a way to never be able to go back to the Today screen? Unless of course you go to "Close Home".
Thanks in advance.

grandpareza said:
When using PointUI, the app minimized and you are returned to the Today screen when hitting the End Button/Red Button. Is there anyway to disable this from happening? Meaning, is there a way to never be able to go back to the Today screen? Unless of course you go to "Close Home".
Thanks in advance.
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I myself have been trying to find a way to completely replace the Today screen with PointUI, but without any success. So I ended up throwing together this little piece of software.
It is called GetPointUI and is basically a Today plugin, which acts similar to the SPBWatcher plugin. If PointUI is not running, it will start it, and if PointUI is running, it will activate it as soon as the Today screen becomes visible. To deactivate GetPointUI, simply uncheck the plugin in the Today settings.
Now, mind you, I have only tested this application on my XV6800 (and it is working perfectly) with PointUI installed in the default location. I do not have S2U and/or any other launchers/Today replacements installed, so GetPointUI might interact with those in an undesired way. If you should have PointUI installed in a non-default location, GetPointUI SHOULD be able to detect that and find the correct path, but this has not been tested. The same goes for new versions of PointUI that might be released in the future. GetPointUI SHOULD always bring up the latest version, but again, that is pure theory. I am curious myself...
Installation: Just install the attached CAB and soft-reset your device.
NOTE: I will NOT be responsible for any damage on your device or any data loss you may incur. You are using this software at your OWN risk.

Unfortunately, that CAB file you posted won't install. No error, just "Unsuccessful"

here this may have fixed it

Perfect. Thanks guys. Since the time of posting (January), pointui has created a feature where you can choose to replace the Task Bar/Start Bar with the pointui task bar. Touching this "pointui task bar" takes you back to the home screen and at another location on the bar it gives you the "Running Applications"
Thanks again guys. Much appreciated.

kidnamedAlbert said:
here this may have fixed it
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Thanks kidnamedAlbert. I should have noticed that.

mimpoca said:
Thanks kidnamedAlbert. I should have noticed that.
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yeah no problem

Still not working for me. Any suggestions?

getpointui not tinstalling
Yeah i get it to ask where to install, i choose device and then it gives me an installation unsuccessful message. I am using an xv6800 on verizon with wm6.1

hello,
i tried this .cab on PPC 2000SE - it installs - but nothing happens
- no new plugin
- going to today (and stay there) is still possible.
is there a way to make this work on 2003SE ?
thank you!

GetPointUI not installing...
chrisaba1 said:
Yeah i get it to ask where to install, i choose device and then it gives me an installation unsuccessful message. I am using an xv6800 on verizon with wm6.1
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I have an HTC S640 with Windows Mobile 6, I get the same error...will not install. Without this app, PointUI although very slick, without it beeing able to work like this its just eye candy....
If anyone has this working, please POST!!!!!

i know this is off the topic, but does anyone know if POINTUI is still in production for a new release?
it is true there are bugs in pointui, but free is free.. for the most part, POINTUI is a excellent all in one interface, simple, basic and fast...
tvos

Moving Top Taskbar to bottom of screen

Does anybody know a program, or how to edit the start menu bar so that it goes down to the bottom of the screen instead of staying at the top? (Like a PC)
(P.S I don't think WisBar does it, and even if it does, it screwed my TyTN II up bad. Plz don't suggest it...)

Well, i think Wisbar Advance Desktop is the only way (correct me if i'm wrong). With WAD you can build your own desktop from scratch.

Yeah, but WAD only works on the Today Screen... i want the start menu bar (top bar) to stay at the bottom in other programs too.
Thanks anyway

I am looking for the same thing. I used Wisbar to customize the Start menu to look like WinXP. I need to get the whole bar with the Start button on the bottom of the screen and can't discover how....

May i suggest a Windows CE 2.11 Palm-Size PC in that case....
(you'll have to put up with a non-connected device with 69Mhz and 8Megs RAM in that case... )

Moaske said:
May i suggest a Windows CE 2.11 Palm-Size PC in that case....
(you'll have to put up with a non-connected device with 69Mhz and 8Megs RAM in that case... )
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or buy a MS Smartphone. :-\

Moaske said:
May i suggest a Windows CE 2.11 Palm-Size PC in that case....
(you'll have to put up with a non-connected device with 69Mhz and 8Megs RAM in that case... )
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Sorry mate, we're only looking for applications for WM5 and WM6 Professional that can move the start menu to the bottom.
Also, i saw a bootloader, called "Harret" (i think) and it moves the taskbar to the bottom. I dunno how they did that, but i'm sure other people here want to know how. Any other ideas? I'd love to have my phone actually looking like a WINDOWS mobile phone.

your right about haret pulling down the start menu to the bottom. i also want to know how they have done that

#Bump#
Could any kind of Registry Tweak do it?

BUMP..
i'm also interested in this aswell. any ideas, anyone?

Me too.. even after almost a week of searching I still can't find this capability

masChmagic said:
Me too.. even after almost a week of searching I still can't find this capability
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That is probably because the OP posted this question almost two years ago with no luck,because it is not possible.

Right soft key

Hi i have a kaiser on Uk orange. the right soft key says 'Go To ...' ttry as i may i can not change it at all. i have tried FdcSoft SoftkeyAppletEx, Key swop, Advanced Config and even editing the registry at Hkey_current_user\software\microsoft\today\keys\113 (where they have two extra keys called 'mem1' and 'mem2'.) however whichever method i try the key always resets itself back to 'Go To'
Does anyone have any ideas how i can try and change it at all?
Cheers

edblack said:
Hi i have a kaiser on Uk orange. the right soft key says 'Go To ...' ttry as i may i can not change it at all. i have tried FdcSoft SoftkeyAppletEx, Key swop, Advanced Config and even editing the registry at Hkey_current_user\software\microsoft\today\keys\113 (where they have two extra keys called 'mem1' and 'mem2'.) however whichever method i try the key always resets itself back to 'Go To'
Does anyone have any ideas how i can try and change it at all?
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Thats strange, I always use advanced config for that and its working like a charm.

if youur on orange chances are youve got that crappy side bar on. go to settingsstart - settings - today - go to the second tab laballed ITEMS then untick the orange item. when you go back to your today screen contacts should be on the right

Yeah that did it cant believe how long it has taken to find that out, however is there any way i can get the sidebar back (not necessarily that one but an alternate one) as its really useful to have that stuff on the screen.

edblack said:
Hi i have a kaiser on Uk orange. the right soft key says 'Go To ...' ttry as i may i can not change it at all. i have tried FdcSoft SoftkeyAppletEx, Key swop, Advanced Config and even editing the registry at Hkey_current_user\software\microsoft\today\keys\113 (where they have two extra keys called 'mem1' and 'mem2'.) however whichever method i try the key always resets itself back to 'Go To'
Does anyone have any ideas how i can try and change it at all?
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Try this one mate, letme know how it works out for you

raiisik he sorted the soft key out
you might want to consider the htc home plugin it shows time sms phone links to other apps and it customisable
look on the wiki page for more information

edblack said:
Yeah that did it cant believe how long it has taken to find that out, however is there any way i can get the sidebar back (not necessarily that one but an alternate one) as its really useful to have that stuff on the screen.
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Oh, solved. Didnt see that one, slow read/typer I guess Well if someone else need to remap that is an exelent app for it

jayjay8585 said:
raiisik he sorted the soft key out
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Yeh I saw and comment it
jayjay8585 said:
you might want to consider the htc home plugin it shows time sms phone links to other apps and it customisable
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I am deffently not following here mate?
jayjay8585 said:
look on the wiki page for more information
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Why should I read the wiki? I havent done anything wrong have I

raiisak is htc home in you cabs.

jayjay8585 said:
raiisak is htc home in you cabs.
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I am what? Um, I am slow today but I dont get this. I have some HTC Home cabs yeh but havent released any in my corner. Only thing I have there is a hotfix for Leo`s V9 who was bugging some of the light users thats all.

sorry wait hold up
i was telling the thread starter to read the wiki and i also wanted him to consider htc home for what he now needs. and i was asking you if you have htc home in your corner

jayjay8585 said:
sorry wait hold up
i was telling the thread starter to read the wiki and i also wanted him to consider htc home for what he now needs. and i was asking you if you have htc home in your corner
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Aha! I follow now, after a cup of coffee and youre explenation its all good
About the HTC Home, no I dont have it in my corner. I have some modified Diamon style tweaked for some of the dialers but havent made a cab of it since there is floating several around in here already. I might whanna have a go skinning one if I come up whit a kewl idea though. I am working on a SPB Theme atm (well not now, vacation atm. But will continue that project once back home), after that I have planned to make a cab/guide whit a nice theme for ultimatelaunch. And I also have promised a icon pack and some animations and on top of that I am eager to get back and work whit Leo on future projects. So it is kinda tight program for hobby timeline, but if you got a certain wish you could request it in my corner and who knows what happends from there and out

cool. it was just to show edblack in the right direction

Mobile Tide

Hi,
I recently bought a program called mobiletide. It enables you to see what the tide is anywhere in the world. Great for watersport/sea fanatics! http://www.mobiletide.co.uk/
Does anyone use this? If so how on earth do I access the program?!? I have it installed but it does not work! This is the email sent from the company;
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Hi Will, you need to find the shortcut command keys with the handset (*) and
(#) on your keypad will action the same command as the conventional soft keys. it does take a bit of research but all the commands are there to navigate/select, etc.
Regards,
Dan
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Not much use/help! Any suggestions welcome!
Cheers in advance,
Will

look in the Program files folder (internal storage or device, depending on where it was installed to)

Hi,
i use the program cTide (http://airtaxi.net/ctide/) it's free and it works great.
CU, dc7os

mugglesquop said:
look in the Program files folder (internal storage or device, depending on where it was installed to)
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I am confused - It installs it into the JBlend program. It runs on Java. Do you have it working on your device?
Will

oh right, sorry didnt realise it was Java!
no i dont use it
if you open Jblend, it should be there in the window that opens.

My guess is that William is asking how to use the program because Mobile Tide is expecting a normal mobile phone keypad and he hasn't got one so he can't issue any commands to the app
Am I right?
EDIT: @William, It looks like MT uses the D Pad for menu navigation and sets up on screen soft keys (I'd try it but there's no downloadable demo ), maybe you could describe what happens when you start the app.
Kim

dc7os said:
Hi,
i use the program cTide (http://airtaxi.net/ctide/) it's free and it works great.
CU, dc7os
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ctide doesn't seem to have any U.K. locations in the database, not very useful if you do your sailing in England/Wales

cozzykim said:
My guess is that William is asking how to use the program because Mobile Tide is expecting a normal mobile phone keypad and he hasn't got one so he can't issue any commands to the app
Am I right?
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yes exactly, It is meant to work with the Diamond acc. to website. BUT it is incredibly confusing! I need someone that has gone through the process I am trying to go through.
Thanks for the help.
Will

cozzykim said:
ctide doesn't seem to have any U.K. locations in the database, not very useful if you do your sailing in England/Wales
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I can't it to work anyway - according to the website; 1.1 should have eliminated the bug I am experiencing! Loads and then crashes. I won't bother trying to sort it out anymore but try and resolve my current mobiletide problem! Thank-you very much for all your help.....
Will

William Richardson said:
I can't it to work anyway - according to the website; 1.1 should have eliminated the bug I am experiencing! Loads and then crashes. I won't bother trying to sort it out anymore but try and resolve my current mobiletide problem! Thank-you very much for all your help.....
Will
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Hi Will, I was editing my post above and didn't see this post, have a look ^ 3 posts up.

cozzykim said:
Hi Will, I was editing my post above and didn't see this post, have a look ^ 3 posts up.
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Thanks for you help Kim, Please see this video;
http://www.greenelement.co.uk//Green_Element_Website/Documents/mobiletide.avi
Prob best to right click and save link as.....
Will

Hi Will, I don't have GRemote but from the highlight on your Programs screen it looks like that was also running.
How about a soft reset and look for Mobile Tide again?
Go into to Programs>All Programs, find Mobile tide and run it again.

cozzykim said:
Hi Will, I don't have GRemote but from the highlight on your Programs screen it looks like that was also running.
How about a soft reset and look for Mobile Tide again?
Go into to Programs>All Programs, find Mobile tide and run it again.
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It was running, but it makes no difference. I have only just installed it, trialling not having a mouse in my luggage around town! I have to go now, but I want to say a big thanks for your help.
Will

Why No Decent WinXP/ Vista Themes?

Theme: To me, a theme just consists of button overlays to match the visual appearance of an OS environment.
Environment: To me, an environment consists of a working realtime customizable desktop, with custom scripts executed on button taps/ holds etc to simulate the useability of a OS environment.
EDIT: Sorry, so theme is the wrong word. I mean't environment in the subject title.
Well, I have searched the entire internet, but can't believe there is nothing that is worth using. Wisbar is lacking in vital functions needed to simulate a working Windows XP environment such as moveable windows which resize and minimize, draggable icons on the desktop, the list goes on. Projects are either no longer available, been suspended or even when they are available they are incompatible. I have tried various vista environments, and while they are somewhat visually similar to the real OS, they just aren't functional enough to use in everyday use. So, would anyone else agree that this is it as far as XP and vista environments go? If not, please reply and post some quality links to show what I haven't searched hard enough for and I'll kiss your boots .

dont you think that draggable resizable windows are a bit redundant on a windows mobile screen?
how many windows can you fit in such a small screen and actually work on them?
if you need that, i think that it is best that you look for a tablet with win7 in the near future

Because mobiles aren't desktops. You use alternative ways to navigate. You no longer focus on displaying as much info as possible, but instead focus on displaying it clearly and nicely.

well, I don't have a 24" screen on my phone, so what you are suggesting would be so tiny on your telephone it is rather impossible to work with neither will it be fingerfriendly for all day use. I already found the wisbar themes to tiny to use smoothly.
Of course a complete simulation will look nice, but for daily use it will be the most annoying thing to work with I guess.
Cheers,
Arnold

Hey thanks for replies. Yea, I guess you're right. It would be a pain to navigate etc. Suppose I'm a windows desktop fanatic who loves customisation too much . I don't know I just don't find windows mobile very customizable. I can't believe how hack-free the WM ROM is. I imagined being able to hack all the system files with resource hacker and change loads of things, but, none of that seems to work and the files are very well embedded into the system and are nothing but read-only.
What I'll try for now is playing around with Wisbar Advance and see if I can make it look similar to my winXP.
Cheers.

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Hi i am also searching for the same thing and thanks for the info.

umangsain said:
Hi i am also searching for the same thing and thanks for the info.
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From my gatherings, you'll have to be either very lucky or you'll just have to wait until something useable is developed. I'm working on a skin, but it'll only be for the TG01 and I can't program so it won't be amazing. It'll just really be a visual representation of my windows desktop, but I'm not using WAD because as soon as you lauch a WM dedicated program, you leave the windows environment. The only way this will ever work I think is for people to sort of embed the programs within a windows xp window within WAD, but from I have seen, WAD is unable to do this.
By the way, don't you think it's funny how Microsoft have put the start menu at the top of the screen? Seems like it's a way to make it impossible to have a start menu at the bottom of the screen.
I'll use wisbar advance 2 and see what i can come up with and if it's any good, I'll post it up.
P.S. Every single vista theme I have downloaded has not been compaible for my TG01 .

Tozzy2 said:
By the way, don't you think it's funny how Microsoft have put the start menu at the top of the screen? Seems like it's a way to make it impossible to have a start menu at the bottom of the screen.
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latest versions of wm6.5.3 have the start menu at the bottom.. but it goes into fullscreen start menu

cchr said:
latest versions of wm6.5.3 have the start menu at the bottom.. but it goes into fullscreen start menu
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If only this was an official release. I'd try it, but scared of hashing up my device.

Tozzy2 said:
If only this was an official release. I'd try it, but scared of hashing up my device.
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i havent had any problems personally, and i havent heard of any serious problems.
and i have a comparably old device (i900 omnia)
you should try it and just keep a backup if you're afraid so you can revert to an official rom.
in my opinion, cooked roms are in their majority better than official ones

Tozzy2 said:
If only this was an official release. I'd try it, but scared of hashing up my device.
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well,...
you better try it... and you'll be love it.
you can also change the icon you loved (JWMD icon changer)
n' the ROM is fully customable.
Trust me it's never ruins your gadget if you follow step by step totorial for upgrading. read for sure.

Tozzy2 said:
If only this was an official release. I'd try it, but scared of hashing up my device.
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well,...
you better try it... and you'll be love it.
you can also change the icon you loved (JWMD icon changer)
n' the ROM is fully customable.
Trust me it's never ruins your gadget if you follow step by step totorial for upgrading. read for sure.

@ Tozzy2: have you tried this yet? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530269
i don't know how it is like coz it's just not my thing and i haven't tried it.
too complicated for me. but maybe you'll like it.

Flashing ROMs can be scary at first. Took 3 months to convince me.
Now I see I would have burnt my phone if it were not for custom ROMs.

Well, I was actually thinking of trying to flash a custom ROM, but then after reading this thread
lume999 said:
TG01 dead ... no longer works', remains in black screen ... help!! thanks !!!!!!
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Source:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654674
I am totally put off. It only takes for the phone to hang as it's installing or something and that's it, there's no way of getting back onto the homescreen again. Have thought about it, not worth it to be honest, I'll wait for an official release (if ever ones becomes available). As it is, ROM Extractor has buggered up my device it seems . Was using it last night to extract some EXEs and this morning, the start button was totally inoperable. That's literally all I did . Haven't modified the original ROM files in any way; like anyone could anyway,. they're completely hack-proof.
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@ Tozzy2: have you tried this yet? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530269
i don't know how it is like coz it's just not my thing and i haven't tried it.
too complicated for me. but maybe you'll like it.
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Thanks very much for the link, but unfortunately, I created this thread after trying this out lol. No offense to the guy who created it, it looks nice visually and clearly resembles the windows 7 theme, but it just doesn't have any functionality. Once you load up a program, as always, you're out of the desktop environment and the taskbar at the top becomes visible again. I think, someone really needs to fix this issue and then the problem will be solved (well almost). As for moveable windows and such, I agree it would make navigation quite awkward on the small screen, I guess that's the beauty of windows mobile, but I just wish there was more software available like in the desktop versions.