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I recently had the chance to play with the Nokia E61i and the built in VOIP client is brilliant. It allows you to use internal speaker, speaker phone and bluetooth with VOIP calls.
I had a Pocket PC before HTC Titan, but unfortunately had to sell it because I am traveling a lot now. I will primarly use my device in South America where the WCDMA band is different. I am thinking about getting the Nokia E90 or the HTC Kaiser, but must make sure the Kaiser will have built in VOIP client. Can someone confirm? Thanks
Even knowing there are many VOIP applications for Windows Mobile, I tried many with the HTC Titan and only ONE worked ok, but the problem was it only worked trough the speaker phone which was very annoying and not convenient.
I understand voip should be included in WM6.
IE : the integrated phone application can do voip.
Tried it with WM6 and voipbuster on my HTC Wizard and it's working although the sound is not so good sometimes because of the Wizard weak processor (I think).
NL4JC said:
I had a Pocket PC before HTC Titan, but unfortunately had to sell it because I am traveling a lot now. I will primarly use my device in South America where the WCDMA band is different. I am thinking about getting the Nokia E90 or the HTC Kaiser, but must make sure the Kaiser will have built in VOIP client. Can someone confirm? Thanks
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I have already asked that question some time ago - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322377 - and it turned out there is no VoIP support in Kaiser by default. I haven't seen any traces of VoIP in Kaiser I've played with two days ago. And finally, take a look into official Kaiser product sheets - they don't mention VoIP at all, while it's a good feature to shout about.
So basically, there is no VoIP support in Kaiser. However, installing it as an add-on from cab files might have a chance to work, but someone with real Kaiser with hands would need to test it and let us know.
That is really sad. I guess I am going to have to go with the Nokia E90 until a Windows Mobile device has a built in VOIP client.
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That is really sad. I guess I am going to have to go with the Nokia E90 until a Windows Mobile device has a built in VOIP client.
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VOIP is easily installed by YOU.
There's no reason to not get a kaiser because it doesn't have this if you are a member of these forums.
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VOIP is easily installed by YOU.
There's no reason to not get a kaiser because it doesn't have this if you are a member of these forums.
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Amen !
I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
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I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
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Well, this is great news! I hope I could confirm it as soon as my Kaiser come - I couldn't resist and pre-ordered one in Handtec.co.uk. ))
Installed the .cab as well and works like a charm.
I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
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I have Kaiser now, I've installed VOIP Drivers.cab and MajikVOIP.cab. Installs all components correctly, logs into SIP account, makes a call, but... sound comes out of external speaker, instead of internal earpiece!
Did you manage to make it work properly and if yes - which cabs exactly did you install? Thanks.
im keen to find out also! I thought that you could only access voip using cooked roms.
There are a number of WM5 VoIP endpoints available.... however I'm not entirely sure about WM6 yet. I work in VoIP, and its on my list of things the check now that i have my shiny new TyTN II sat infront of me!
I'll keep you all updated with my findings.
Mind you.. i must check tmobiles policy on VoIP, I had a sneaky feeling they are blocking necessary ports...
managing your voip client?
for those with Voip enabled and working, can you tell me how the voip client determines which connection to use, ie wifi or using the data plan?
I have installed Fring and it works well. Is this different than the other voip programs discussed above?
from what i understand, Fring is a stand alone app, where as the voip i am looking at is fully integrated into the phone and uses the standard dialer, hence my previous question about how the Voip determines which connection to use? And if that is automatic? ie. if wifi is available will it just connect via wifi and if wifi isnt available will it then revert automatically to using the data plan to make the voip call.
Not that this helps with the Kaiser, but according to HP, the new iPaq BM series should have the VoIP client enabled by default; in fact, as far as I'm aware, it's the only device announced with it enabled.
Hi,
I'm new to the PDA and WM phone world, and i have a quick question. If there was a voip program of sorts for a phone like this, would that mean you could just pay for a data plan and not have to pay for a voice plan from a company like AT&T? And then u could still text message, e-mail, internet and the sorts, but also be able to make calls through your program?
Hi
Most providers (certainly here in the UK) flag data used for Messenging and/or VoIP so they are charge at a higher rate or excluded from your inclusive allowance so you pay extra or not blocked completely.
VoIP on a mobile device is only really of benefit when you are in range of a wireless connection.
Regards
Phil
Hey, thanks for the reply. Does anyone know if AT&T restrict data like he said? That's gonna be the main service i will be using, and want to know if they do or not.
I want to install Skype, is there a particular version i should go for or can i use any of the WM phones listed?
skype problem..
for some reason i can't get skype to work on my kaiser,when i try to log in,it don't recognize my user name or password,yet its the same info i use to sign in on my laptop.
Strange that, I took a chance and just installed it and it worked 1st time.
worked for me from the first time as well
I selected HTC P4350 and it worked first time on my Kaiser....
Rich
This is the answer I received from SKYPE support re the TyTn II - so are the happy users lucky or do the Skype guys know nothing???
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This device has CPU with ARM v4 instruction set. Unfortunately it is incompatible with Skype for Mobile 2.2 voice calling.
Only the chat function is working on that device with Skype for Mobile 2.2 at the moment.
You can read in more detail about that problem from http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase&_j=questiondetails&_i=980
Our development team is working hard to make Skype for Mobile compatible with more and more devices but no release date is currently available.
Please keep an eye on newer Skype for Mobile versions at our web page: http://skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/mobile/
We apologise for the inconvenience, but for the moment only chat functionality is supported
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Had you tried 2.1 version?
I haven't tried anything - about to buy my TyTn II - just point of information to know whetner it works or not - makes a difference...
Think am lucky so far, I've made 3 calles and it worked fine apart from from usual echo.
I must be lucky too - works great - and even works very well with stereo bluetooth headset.....
R
djmaven said:
This is the answer I received from SKYPE support re the TyTn II - so are the happy users lucky or do the Skype guys know nothing???
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This device has CPU with ARM v4 instruction set. Unfortunately it is incompatible with Skype for Mobile 2.2 voice calling.
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What is Skype smoking? A cursory scan of anything named TyTN? The Kaiser has a ARM v6 instruction set. The Hermes supported voice chat too, especially in the 2.2 beta, but not the final gold.
Skype REALLY doesn't want to support any of the PDA phones. Hmm.
When it does work, does it support voice over Bluetooth headset, or does it still only support voice over speakerphone and wired headset?
From what I understand, the lastest verison of skype doesnt work on both Tytn and tytn 2 because of there new voice decoder. The older one works fine. But I dont know which version of skype it goes back to. Look in the Tytn forum and there are heaps of info on which one works and which doesnt and Im guess its the same for the tytn 2.
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From what I understand, the lastest verison of skype doesnt work on both Tytn and tytn 2 because of there new voice decoder. The older one works fine. But I dont know which version of skype it goes back to. Look in the Tytn forum and there are heaps of info on which one works and which doesnt and Im guess its the same for the tytn 2.
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As rakh1 says you can select HTC P4350. So this indicates two things
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TyTn 2 does not have to use the older version Skype 2.2 Beta or older
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When Skype were asked about this they just heard the TyTn part and immediately launched their standard line - Skype chat is not compatible etc. Perhaps if they had been asked about the Kaiser or the P4350 then the answer would have been correct! (as suggested by NuShrike above)
Mike
i just downloaded skype 2.2 and it works like a champ on my kaiser. as others said just pick the p4350 and it will run np.
yep, volume still seems to come out of the rear speaker though, also, I had inital error when installing via the PC through activesync, but once copying the cab over, it installed and runs smoothly.
I wonder if the Skype crowd ever miss the Joost fellas
you guys who are using Skype successfully, couple of questions:
1) are you using internet or WIFI connection?
2) Which version of Skype?
Thanks!
Frankyg said:
you guys who are using Skype successfully, couple of questions:
1) are you using internet or WIFI connection?
2) Which version of Skype?
Thanks!
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1. Either.
2. The latest PPC build downloadable from the SKype site.
Skype phone calls seemed to work ok for me - perhaps a little crackle on the other side.
Does anyone know why skype only works through the speakers? Is this an issue with WM6 in general?
Hi,
I think it can be a solution for everyone who wants to use M$ VoIP and GPS in his Diamond (till today if you use VoIP, GPS goes dead).
IMHO problem was one file called dnsapi.dll in VoIP cab which overwrite original one in ROM. It caused that GPS goes dead.
I've removed this file from my OEM package and cooked a ROM with VoIP. I tested this and VoIP and GPS is working without any problems.
I using only OEM packages - if someone can make a cab file from attached OEM package and test it, maybe we will have a solution for everyone !
[2008-08-08] UPDATE - CABs can be found here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2497988&postcount=8
Sound great!!
This is what i´ve been waiting for... fring does the trick... but BAD.
Sweet.
Good idea, a shame I don't know how to make a .cab.
None of the VoIP programs I tested work on the diamond (even Fring doesn't work properly...)
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Good idea, a shame I don't know how to make a .cab.
None of the VoIP programs I tested work on the diamond (even Fring doesn't work properly...)
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Fring and Skype 6.1 works fine on my Diamond and the GPS too.
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Fring and Skype 6.1 works fine on my Diamond and the GPS too.
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I'm not talking about Skype and Fring - issue was with VoIP drivers from M$. With that you can dial via e.g. Halonet from normal dialpad.
Anyone tried to make proper CAB? For chefs attached OEM package is ready to cook.
Hi,
I tried to make a proper cab, but apparently I failed
I damaged my original dnsapi.dll, now I have one with filedate
31.01.07; could someone upload the original one from a 1.37 rom?
Thanks,
Seven
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Hi,
I tried to make a proper cab, but apparently I failed
I damaged my original dnsapi.dll, now I have one with filedate
31.01.07; could someone upload the original one from a 1.37 rom?
Thanks,
Seven
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Here you are...
Aaaah, thanks Saves me from Hardreset because the VOIP drivers wouldn't uninstall anymore... Have something in return: Here you have two CABs which do not install a dnsapi.dll, and tested them on my diamond. Works perfectly. You even dont have to reset the phone...
If feedback is positive, maybe the OP could change topic into "[solved]..."?
One tiny thing left to do: Change the ipdialplan.xml to make VOIP dial those "+1 (999) 1212 - 1212" numbers as well ^^
Thanks and enjoy,
Seven
what gps program are you using ?
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what gps program are you using ?
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I've tested in HTC GPS Tool and Automapa (Polish navigation).
Anyone tried CAB prepared by mcseven?
I used tomtom 7, outdoor gps and mobile terminal emulator to see nmea records on COM4 directly. all 3 programs were running simultaneously and were receiving GPS.
I also tried to connect the VOIP to my asterisk, works as well, but cannot call any +1* numbers or numbers with brackets, since I dont know how to change the ipdialplan.xml in /windows...
I didn't know wich one of the .cab I should install so I installed both; I started with the drivers, it did nothing then I installed WM6Voip, it seemed to work. So I installed SIPconfigTool to configure my connection and I tested TomTom, the GPS was detected (whereas it wasn't with the original WM6Voip). Nevertheless, I tried to use my VoIP account over 3G but it couldn't connect (whereas Fring can connect).
works fine using tomtom 7 and GoSIP...
Yes, possibly the built-in VOIP cannot use STUN functionality, and fring can. I believe that to be a firewall issue.
However, now I seem to have that 5 seconds silence bug. I establish a connection, but 5 seconds into a call the diamond ceases to transmit voice. Receiving voice from the remote party however continues flawlessly. No Headset connected and not put into a docking station. Has anyone a similar problem or even a solution to that?
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Aaaah, thanks Saves me from Hardreset because the VOIP drivers wouldn't uninstall anymore... Have something in return: Here you have two CABs which do not install a dnsapi.dll, and tested them on my diamond. Works perfectly. You even dont have to reset the phone...
If feedback is positive, maybe the OP could change topic into "[solved]..."?
One tiny thing left to do: Change the ipdialplan.xml to make VOIP dial those "+1 (999) 1212 - 1212" numbers as well ^^
Thanks and enjoy,
Seven
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I've installed both your CAB's. But i'm wondering why I can use VoIP to call? Should I have another program installed?
I've installed both your CAB's. But i'm wondering why I can use VoIP to call? Should I have another program installed?
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Well, yes. Use a program called SIP config (anyone you like, I use this one) to program your provider settings into the phone. Then make sure to visit Settings->Phone->"Internet" Tab and change it from "Never" to a setting of your liking. After that (and pressing ok in the top right corner) it should register with your VOIP provider as soon as there is a data connection available. If your phone places a call via VOIP, it will ring a short audible "beep" prior to connecting. I found no way to tell it explicitly "use cellular network" or "use VOIP network" for placing a call. Perhaps this will be added in a later ROM.
However, now I seem to have that 5 seconds silence bug. (...)
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I believe that to be a firewall issue as well. Yesterday I went home from work and put the phone directly into my home Wifi net with direct connection to my asterisk server. Everything works fine.
Today I used another access point at work, and it worked fine as well, so if you are having trouble getting voice to the remote party it most likely is your firewall's fault.
btw I have not found a way to use the internal=headset speaker, it will always use the loudspeaker for received audio.
wow, big THANKS.
works fine for me. Could connect to my Axon PBX with SIP and GPS also runs fine (Tested with tomtom7 and WMMiniGPS).
I realy waited for that and had also two hard resets behind me previous during tests
It almost works for me. I can connect, but my voice doesn't arrive to the other side of the line at all. Neither does the voice of the other side arrive to me. The line is open, but seems 'dead'.... what am I doing wrong?
ipdialplan.xml for sipgate in Germany
Fantastic, with the new cabs now GPS and WM6VoIP works. Attached a dialplan which I modified last year for my Kaiser. It works with my sip provider in Germany (sipgate) and you can dial local plan, leading 00 or + or 0. It may work also for others.
voip speaker
Great job!
Is there already any solution for the intern/extern speaker problem?
Hello chefs and others,
I'm looking for voip support from wm6.1 build 20721, meaning these 3 files (AFAIR): dnsapi.dll, voipphonecanvas.dll and rtcdll.dll.
Tried a few roms so far and neither of them supported voip, and i need it for my SIP
Tried to install various voip cabs (win6voip.cab, destr0_VOIP_WM61__SIP_Config_1.1.cab), but they all kill my gps.
There are some threads about this but non of them gave me an answer.
I hope you can help me. I don't want to choose between SIP and GPS.
regards,
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Dragilla
When you say it kills your GPS what do you mean??? Just installing the cab or actually using it at the same time??
I use VOIP all the time and I haven´t noticed any problems with my TomTom although I never have them running at the same time
I mean just installing the cab causes the gps to be dead. It's not seen by any app. HTC_GPS_Tool doesn't show any NMEA frames, GPS Test pauses detecting gps on the port on which the gps should be.
I don´t have this problem and I use VOIP everyday.... so try my cab and let me know.
The only problem I have is the sound doesn´t come thru the internal speaker... but hey I´ve had this problem with Kaiser, Polaris and now Diamond so I´m used to it . The only device I had it working with the internal speaker was the Hermes.
Interesting
With standart win6voip.cab i had the sound through internal speaker. The SIP worked fine... only the gps was dead.
Will try your cab in a sec
I wonder if this matters that I use a never windows build... it could matter IMVHO...will see
Seems to solve the problem for me
Though I have the same problem with the sound coming out of the externat speeker, but I can live wih that
PS: in sip conf tool i can't set the registry entry saying i want to use sip on 3g as well, but that doesn't seem to matter because sip works on 3g anyways
PS2: found a neet tweak to keep wifi connection on while the device is off. This way I can receive SIP calls like ordinary calls - I love it
Thank you all for help - hopefully we can fix the speaker problem some day.
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PS2: found a neet tweak to keep wifi connection on while the device is off. This way I can receive SIP calls like ordinary calls - I love it
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Schapps adv conf. also does that
dragilla said:
Seems to solve the problem for me
Though I have the same problem with the sound coming out of the externat speeker, but I can live wih that
PS: in sip conf tool i can't set the registry entry saying i want to use sip on 3g as well, but that doesn't seem to matter because sip works on 3g anyways
PS2: found a neet tweak to keep wifi connection on while the device is off. This way I can receive SIP calls like ordinary calls - I love it
Thank you all for help - hopefully we can fix the speaker problem some day.
regards,
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Glad solved your problem!!! Maybe you can change the title of this thread and say this CAB at least solves the GPS compatibility problem.
No idea how to change thread title. I'm affraid only moderators can do that
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No idea how to change thread title. I'm affraid only moderators can do that
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It´s fairly easy just edit the first post with Advanced editing button....
1. step press edit on post
2. at the bottom of that screen press Go Advanced
3. then you can edit the title
You can do it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=430 with double click in the end of line on your thread.
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You can do it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=430 with double click in the end of line on your thread.
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I never knew that.... that´s good to know. Thanks Panos. How are you anyway??
Done
Thanx for the advice.
UNLOCKING VoIP SIP Capabilities on Windows Mobile 6.1 XPERIA kills GPS
Regarding: iGO8 problems on XPERIA and WINDOWS MOBILE 6 PDAs and SMARTPHONES.
Anybody who unlocks the SIP VoIP capabilities of Windows Mobile 6.1 on an XPERIA X1 phone and wonders why GPS doesn’t work anymore – here’s your solution.
1) If you’ve already done so and now have a dead GPS hard reset your phone. All your data will be lost.
2) Use christonge’s CAB for unlocking VoIP SIP on WM 6.1, which can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422038 (Thank you christonge, saved my day!!!)
3) Test if GPS now works with GPS Test tool http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/GPS/GPS-Test-34335.shtml
Good luck!!!
Keywords: dead GPS iGO8 XPERIA X1 SonyEricsson VoIP SIP Windows Media 6.1 unlock
No sound while calling through VoiP
christonge said:
I don´t have this problem and I use VOIP everyday.... so try my cab and let me know.
The only problem I have is the sound doesn´t come thru the internal speaker... but hey I´ve had this problem with Kaiser, Polaris and now Diamond so I´m used to it . The only device I had it working with the internal speaker was the Hermes.
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Hi,
I have the problem, that I can't hear my partner, when I'm calling via VoiP.
I can dial normally, the phone of my partner rings, but I can't hear anything. The phone recognizes, that my partner picked up the phone and starts the clock. When I speak, my partner can hear me, but not in the other direction. I can't hear anything.
If I call my Voip-number, my diamond also doesn't ring.
Is there anything I forgot?
Thank you!!!
Hi mates! Excuse me for my bad english, i'm an italian boy and i havn't sudied english wery well when i was at school...
I have an HTC TyTN II with WM6.1 (Boid 19212.1.0.3).
I've tryed to install varoius voip and sip config tool cabs but after each install my gps goes dead.
After each install i must do an hard reset to return to have the gps running.
The cab in the first page solve the gps troubleshooting?
In alternative, there is a cab that permitt to use voip and gps?
I would use internet calling and i need to use gps.
I won't hardreset never again.
Thank to all...
hi my name is Branko. I have same problem with X1 and sip and GPS. I downloaded that .cab file but when I installed it, I couldnt find program on my phone. Can you tell me what should I do?
Ok, so we all know that this phone has Wifi (Xperia101). My Blackberry through T-mobile had Wifi also, but supported VOIP. I see some ROMs support VOIP. How does one get VOIP without flashing one of these ROMs?
Is there a .cab for this?
Developers, is this hardware or software? I would love to help solve this problem.
Any takers?
Checkout Fring at http://www.fring.com/ - I have checked month ago older version and it was working fine but with main speaker (not this one for phones only), but on headset is ok. There is new version right now and they say it's support X1 so maybe they fixed that.
i use fring since i have my X1 November 2008, the old version was over the mainspeaker, the new version works perfect with the phone (ear) speaker.
So give it an try it is in my eyes the best and it consums lesser battery then all the others
Regards,
cHarOn
Thats very good, becouse even Microsoft Voip works only with mainspeaker on X1.