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Button Lock don´t work, Screen lock, Battery drain - Help

I´ve upgraded to wizard 2a beta and my button lock function doesn´t work:
it´s like this, i power off and press any hardware button and the screen doesn´t wake up but the programs starts running, so when i power on the device i have several programs running.
This version has screen lock and i also use it and it works but after a few minutes some programs are running and in the today screen it says screen locked and i can tap any function and it starts to work.
I also have huge battery drain only one day stand with lesser use than wm2003.
Need Heeeelllp!!!
I don´t want to go back to wm2003!!!

I think you'd be much more satisfied with TuMa 1.3 for starters, it is much more secure and stable.
Regarding your question, there are two button lock applets in your control panel, one being in Personal > Buttons and the other in System > Button Lock. Now in all honesty I can't remember which one it is which does work, but one of them does, so set both of them to Lock all buttons except Power button.
Hope this helps!
Leo

TuMA 1.3
I´ve upgradede to tuma 1.3 and its much better. No problems now.
Thanks

New ROM, New Problems!

My Tilt is my very first WM device, so hopefully I'm not completely clueless here. I had a few hangs a week on my Tilt, so I thought I'd go ahead and flash the HTC ROM to it. Since then, however, it still hangs occasionally and seems to be much more laggy than it used to be. A host of new annoyances has popped up too. Hopefully just little reg tweaks, but I have to ask.
I don't want to overwhelm with a laundry list, so I'll just try and get these solved one at a time. Obviously I'd like some advice on the performance as well, but here's the first annoyance:
Under the "Power -> Advanced" tab, I have it set to "turn off device" after 10 minutes "on external power." Similarly, under the "Backlight -> External Power" tab, I have it set to turn off not being used for 5 minutes.
So why, I wonder, when I charge my phone at night, does the phone shine brightly all throughout the night?!?
Thanks for being so helpful.

they stay on when they are charging by default. it's how they work

Just hit your sleep button. That's what I do
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dwella said:
Just hit your sleep button. That's what I do
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I do the same thing it charges fine.
-McMex

Thanks - I've been hitting sleep up 'til now. It's just that under the Tilt ROM, the thing used to put itself to sleep while plugged in just fine. Now it doesn't. Oh well, I guess I can just hit the button.
So my next problem: On the HTC Home plugin, under the "applications" tab, there's a button that rotates the screen. When I hit that, however, it rotates the wrong way - so that if the keyboard is open, the screen is upside down. Similarly, when I start a slideshow "optimized for landscape images," the slideshow starts "upside down."

My tilt is upside down, too!
Hey, did you ever figure that out? My tilt is upside down now in landscape mode, too. I have the Dutty v3 Dual Touch on there but I swear it worked for awhile... I installed the HTC Home customizer and ran the kaiser tweak program so maybe something in there messed me up...
Did you ever get yours fixed?

Turn off WM6 on TyTn II

I finally found a power utility to restart the device via on screen selection that looks good too. However, one other function I need it to do is shut down without having to press the side button for 5 seconds and then confirm with on screen touch.
I've read in other theads that ShutXP is meant to fully switch off the device but on my v1615 it simply switches the display off (locks the screen etc, just as if the power button was depressed momentarily).
Is there a bug with the v1615 (Vodafone branded TyTn II/Kaiser) and this tool? Does anyone else have a Kaiser and the ShutXP tool and experience this issue? Perhaps I have something else installed which is causing it not to shutdown properly??
I've noticed a DWORD registry entry for ShutXP in HKLM\Software\PPCSpft\psShutXP\VideoPowerOff which has a default value of 0. Setting this to 1 doesn't seem to make a difference to any of the features.

OK, I'll ask it in a slightly different way as I've done a little more searching around and cannot find any tools to do this...
How do you switch off the TyTn II without pressing the side power button?
i.e. have a shortcut in the HTC Launcher which powers down the device similar to psShutXP but not just to sleep??
I'm talking about completely switching the device off - not just putting it to sleep. Pressing the power button for more than 4 seconds allows you to switch the device off, completely.

PS shutxp
Have you heard of PSShutXP??
Have used it before... does what you desrcibe...
http://ppcsoft.narod.ru/english/

philje123 said:
Have you heard of PSShutXP??
Have used it before... does what you desrcibe...
http://ppcsoft.narod.ru/english/
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Did you read, what he posted? Does NOT what he describes.
vigilante_xix said:
OK, I'll ask it in a slightly different way as I've done a little more searching around and cannot find any tools to do this...
How do you switch off the TyTn II without pressing the side power button?
i.e. have a shortcut in the HTC Launcher which powers down the device similar to psShutXP but not just to sleep??
I'm talking about completely switching the device off - not just putting it to sleep. Pressing the power button for more than 4 seconds allows you to switch the device off, completely.
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PsShutXP is not able to do that. I think it isn't even possible with any software. (AFAIK)

Thanks johanromijn, couldn't think of any other way of making it any more clearer...
I've read somewhere about a command prompt interface on the ppc which can emulate many functions. Do you know about this? I'm sure it could do many power functions but I can't for the life of me find the same one I read about.
Pressing the button simply sends a software command so perhaps it can be captured and saved to a shortcut on the touch screen. I could understand the difficulty if it were a hardware switch! Unfortunatly, the button capture software I've used doesn't register the button press and the device just warns me about loosing any unsaved data before powering off - screen capture attached.
I just don't want to waste battery unnecessarily over night or elsewhere when the device isn't required to be on.
Anyone got any suggestions??

Same problem On HTC P3470
Hi All,
i have same problem with my HTC P3470
i tried about 4 or 5 other applications that same result appears. some of them needed .net framework. but the peroblem still remain after installing .net farmework. i think it's become a dream to shutdown our wm6 via screen tap

mehrzad_64 said:
Hi All,
i have same problem with my HTC P3470
i tried about 4 or 5 other applications that same result appears. some of them needed .net framework. but the peroblem still remain after installing .net farmework. i think it's become a dream to shutdown our wm6 via screen tap
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Given that you'd normally need to press the power button to get it out of powersaving mode before doing any screen tapping anyway, other than the fact shutting the device down takes 5 seconds more, I don't see any advantage to having a fully screen tap method of powering off. In fact, to the contrary, it may result in unwanted accidental shutdowns eg when putting the device in pockets etc when the screen may accidentally be touched/tapped in the wrong place if not put into powersaving mode first.

Install 888PowerOff it will put a shortcut that you can place where you want in the start menu etc, still asks for verification but still faster than power button

Maybe you should just hire someone to do the work for you. Powering the phone off by holding a button is very hard work.

Lots of reasons
I'ts not as if you can't set the attribute of the shortcut to hidden and call it, to schedule it, or in my case, I'd like to use PhoneAlarm to trigger it when to power gets down to 10%, still allowing me to make outbound calls, that is if I'm not obsessively watching my battery while people I don't really need to talk to are calling me.
Not to mention with WinMo, I'm always telling people 'just hang on.' I can't even power down as fast as they can.
If I assign it to a long-press on another hardware key I can just reach in my pocket and press; I don't have to dig the thing out, hold the button for what on my unit comes out to 7 sec, tap, and put the thing back. Discretion is always nice.
I'd really prefer to skip the whole PowerOffWarning.exe/ShutXP bit, and just power off. My phone is not my heart, it can stop for a few minues once in a while.

Power off HTC TyTN II by software
I have the same question with my HTC TyTn II and have researched it for a few weeks now; even contacted HTC technical support - but they did not an answer. I did find a software that will fully power down the device (XdaShutdown).
But since I have had other HTC smartphones, Blacberry devices, etc., that would definitely fully power-off (not just the screen or go into Standby mode, etc.) - what I was really looking for is an app that would power-off the device at a scheduled time. Used to have a program called CTScheduler which did this on my former Smartphone (WM5). But this app does not seem to work on WM6.
If most Smartphones and Blackberry devices can do (either by 3rd party app or within the device itself...) scheduled power-off-- why can't some of these HTC Pocket PC devices be made to do same?

GCorbo said:
I have the same question with my HTC TyTn II and have researched it for a few weeks now; even contacted HTC technical support - but they did not an answer. I did find a software that will fully power down the device (XdaShutdown).
But since I have had other HTC smartphones, Blacberry devices, etc., that would definitely fully power-off (not just the screen or go into Standby mode, etc.) - what I was really looking for is an app that would power-off the device at a scheduled time. Used to have a program called CTScheduler which did this on my former Smartphone (WM5). But this app does not seem to work on WM6.
If most Smartphones and Blackberry devices can do (either by 3rd party app or within the device itself...) scheduled power-off-- why can't some of these HTC Pocket PC devices be made to do same?
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CTscheduler is still out there, but now for wm6.1 and 6.5
link:
http://www.connectivetools.com/ctscheduler.html#
does everything you said and now more

Power button just does not work !!

I pasted this in Google's official forum but no reply. Can anyone one here please reply to this?
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Here it goes:
The phone is perfect. Works very well. With a small annoying issue.
Sometimes after calling some someone when I hang up and keep it aside, the screen times out (which is normal).
But later when i try to wake the phone by pressing power button it does not do anything. No matter which button i press the phone lies dead.
Take out the battery and the phone starts working great as if nothing happened.
I have experienced this issue atleast 5 times. I tried factory reset just to make sure any random application is not doing this. But, after couple of weeks the issue came again.
I am not sure if HTC is the only one that can help because I am basically scared that they might screw other areas of phone which are working just fine.
Can this be solved by Froyo? Should I wait for it come OTA?
Also, there can be an application which wakes up phone via trackball but would that help?if no button is responding.
Please help guys!!
Always include:
Carrier:Singtel
Country / Language:Singapore
OS / Browser / build number (if applicable):2.1-update 1 (Unrooted, waiting for Froyo OTA)

Try calling your phone from another line first. That would happen to me on my HD2 (a really awesome phone if it didn't suck ass so bad) and, sometimes calling it from another line would cause it to wake up.

OK
Will try to call from another phone once the issue re-occurs.
Should get Froyo by this week as per google so lets see if that can eliminate the issue.

Just now this issue reappeared. I tried calling my phone with other phone but it just kept ringing, no response on N1.
I tried connecting charger and usb but again phone lies dead.
Pull-push battery and now I am typing this message with same phone.
Still wating for froyo ota.
Guys, pls suggest if someone is facing same issue.

I know Leo Laporte had this problem with his N1. Because the power botton is used for unlocking the phone it is more prone to having issues. Everything on his phone was fine, then the power/wake button stopped working. He pulled the battery and could never get it to boot up again, since the power button didn't work. He called up HTC customer service and they sent him out a new phone minus the battery and back cover. That may be the easiest solution to your problem.

I had that problem at one point, although not so severely. Froyo put an end to it but I have a strong feeling the problem will return since I am starting to notice a ~1/2 second lag between pressing the button and the phone waking up.
I think the problem lies in the hardware/software interaction for the button. Can you try something:
-Plug in your phone to your computer
-Start logCat* on your computer
-Keep messing around with your phone while its still connected (logCat will keep scrolling by itself, displaying the system log - if it doesn't, scroll to the bottom of the log and it should begin auto-scroll)
-Wait for the problem to come back
-Press the power button ONCE and see if ANYTHING shows up in logCat that coincides with you pressing the button.
The reason I say this is that I tried this with my phone (i'm a dev so I had it plugged in at the time already) and when I clicked the power button, although the screen would not turn on, logCat would indicate that the Android system registered the click.
Post the results for everyone, if you would be so kind.
*logCat is part of Android-SDK and can be downloaded from the Android Developer's Resources.

it's most likely a hardware issue with the button itself. 3 weeks ago I had a very similar problem where the button was working 1 out maybe 5 times. I called up HTC and they sent me a new one (well technically they're refurbished but I honestly couldn't tell the difference). I was rooted and everything, but they still didn't charge me for it. New phone is still working just fine.
So give them a try.

It sounds like a hardware issue to me too, but like someone already said logcat will tell us for sure. You can use alogcat from the market on your phone if you don't have the sdk installed (and I'm guessing you don't if you're waiting for an OTA for froyo).

MSigler said:
It sounds like a hardware issue to me too, but like someone already said logcat will tell us for sure. You can use alogcat from the market on your phone if you don't have the sdk installed (and I'm guessing you don't if you're waiting for an OTA for froyo).
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How will the OP view alogcat (installed on the phone) if the sleep/wake button is what's in question?

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How will the OP view alogcat (installed on the phone) if the sleep/wake button is what's in question?
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Well everytime android acknowledges a wake from the power button, it will be indicated in the logcat. I think it's something like "I/power: set screen_state 1"
So maybe that is an indication that the power press is being registered. And if the OP is certain that he really did press 5 times and only one time works, then there should only be one line that indicates that.
If the logcat reads 5 power presses, then it may be the display problem.
Then again this is just my speculation. I have no idea how to read logcats.

musashiken said:
Well everytime android acknowledges a wake from the power button, it will be indicated in the logcat. I think it's something like "I/power: set screen_state 1"
So maybe that is an indication that the power press is being registered. And if the OP is certain that he really did press 5 times and only one time works, then there should only be one line that indicates that.
If the logcat reads 5 power presses, then it may be the display problem.
Then again this is just my speculation. I have no idea how to read logcats.
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Ahh. I believe you misunderstand my intention;
The logcat output won't explicitly say that the sleep/wake button was pressed, rather you would see some indication of background [system] activities reacting to the press (you would see 'x many' log entries appear RIGHT when you clicked the power button). There would be no way to tell for sure if you see it after the fact. You would essentially be clicking the button with your finger while staring at the logcat output on your computer. You could not do that with alogcat (from the market) as the [device's] display would be off at the time.
*I bolded alogcat to differentiate it from logcat.
For those unfamiliar, the Android system (and activities spawned by applications) send 'messages' to a sub-system in the Android-OS called logcat. The logcat is used by developers to find out at what part of the program an error occurred while debugging as they can output detailed error logs to it from their app. Logcat also outputs things such as results from OTA checkins so Google can debug the OTA system to make sure it is pulling the correct download paths, ect. This was put in place by Google devs (and led to the public finding out the google server addresses of the Froyo 'test' builds).
On average, there are 2-3 logcat entries added per second when the device is being used, and about 0.1 logcat entries per second when the device is in standby mode. What we are looking for in this case is whether there is a sudden surge of entries when the button is pressed, indicating that SOME part of the Android system recognized the press. The entries wouldn't have anything to do with the button itself, but if the same [few] entries come up EVERY time you press the power button and nothing happens visually, you know something was triggered.
Logcat is a software that runs on your computer (what we want in this case) that lets you view log entries in real time. Alogcat on the other hand, is a software that RUNS ON YOUR PHONE that allows you view log entries in real time.
Let me know if you have any questions!

Do you use a taskiller? Ever since I got burned by a taskiller, I've been wary about them. Not wary enough to uninstall them though.

Not a fix:
But a workaround would be using Trackball Wake to circumvent having to use the power button to wake your device. Especially since you are not running on Froyo.

secret stock 4.3 reboot to safe mode

hi guys found a little secret reboot into safe mode option in stock 4.3
if you hold power button until the power off option appears then hold your finger on shut down and rotate the screen to horizontal , it switches to saying:
"reboot into safe mode? all apps disabled until rebooted again"
nice little trick to determined if your apps are causing lag.:good:

chismay said:
hi guys found a little secret reboot into safe mode option in stock 4.3
if you hold power button until the power off option appears then hold your finger on shut down for a moment , it switches to saying:
"reboot into safe mode? all apps disabled until rebooted again"
nice little trick to determined if your apps are causing lag.:good:
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Fixed that for ya.

You don't need to rotate screen, just hold/tap a text a little bit longer.

chismay said:
hi guys found a little secret reboot into safe mode option in stock 4.3
if you hold power button until the power off option appears then hold your finger on shut down and rotate the screen to horizontal , it switches to saying:
"reboot into safe mode? all apps disabled until rebooted again"
nice little trick to determined if your apps are causing lag.:good:
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Hi, chismay...
There are a few half secret undocumented key presses in Android... and you've just stumbled upon one of 'em. Though you can skip the rotate screen part of it.
Two others that I know of, which are sort of half known...
Long press the Home Button in any app, and it will bring up a circular Google Button, swipe up to this button, and it fires up Google Search/Google Now. Very useful if, whilst in the middle of Temple Run, you want to Google the nearest pizza delivery service.
If you have the AOSP browser installed... in the browser, long press on the Back Button, and it brings up the Bookmarks/History/Saved Pages screen. This seems to work on any Android device running the AOSP browser. Sadly, however, it doesn't work with Chrome.
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If I remember correctly, Safe Mode was introduced with Jellybean 4.1. I became aware of it, quite accidentally, whilst running a Custom Jellybean 4.1.2 ROM on my Advent Vega about a year ago.
It's very useful, as you say, for identifying and then uninstalling potentially rogue apps, that might be interfering with the normal running of the tablet... as all user installed apps are temporarily suspended.
The only problem with it is, upon rebooting your tablet again normally, you tend to loose your widget placements... which can be a bit of a nuisance if you have several widgets, and each one has to be re-configured again afterwards. Very time consuming.
Although it's never happened to me, a rogue app could theoretically prevent the tablet from booting properly. In such a scenario, you can access Safe Mode from a fully shut down state, as follows...
QUOTE: "From a cold start boot (press & release Power button), wait 2 seconds after the B&W Google (bootloader) splash screen appears, then press and hold Vol-Down button until the normal OS boot is fully completed (lock screen or home screen appears)."
SOURCE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37606945
This requires a degree of precision timing, but it does work on the Nexus 7... and is very similar to how I access Safe Mode on my Samsung Galaxy S3, as the long press on the Power Off option doesn't work as it does on the Nexus 7.
Anyway... just some thoughts.
Rgrds,
Ged.

GedBlake said:
Hi, chismay...
There are a few half secret undocumented key presses in Android... and you've just stumbled upon one of 'em. Though you can skip the rotate screen part of it.
Two others that I know of, which are sort of half known...
Long press the Home Button in any app, and it will bring up a circular Google Button, swipe up to this button, and it fires up Google Search/Google Now. Very useful if, whilst in the middle of Temple Run, you want to Google the nearest pizza delivery service.
If you have the AOSP browser installed... in the browser, long press on the Back Button, and it brings up the Bookmarks/History/Saved Pages screen. This seems to work on any Android device running the AOSP browser. Sadly, however, it doesn't work with Chrome.
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If I remember correctly, Safe Mode was introduced with Jellybean 4.1. I became aware of it, quite accidentally, whilst running a Custom Jellybean 4.1.2 ROM on my Advent Vega about a year ago.
It's very useful, as you say, for identifying and then uninstalling potentially rogue apps, that might be interfering with the normal running of the tablet... as all user installed apps are temporarily suspended.
The only problem with it is, upon rebooting your tablet again normally, you tend to loose your widget placements... which can be a bit of a nuisance if you have several widgets, and each one has to be re-configured again afterwards. Very time consuming.
Although it's never happened to me, a rogue app could theoretically prevent the tablet from booting properly. In such a scenario, you can access Safe Mode from a fully shut down state, as follows...
QUOTE: "From a cold start boot (press & release Power button), wait 2 seconds after the B&W Google (bootloader) splash screen appears, then press and hold Vol-Down button until the normal OS boot is fully completed (lock screen or home screen appears)."
SOURCE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37606945
This requires a degree of precision timing, but it does work on the Nexus 7... and is very similar to how I access Safe Mode on my Samsung Galaxy S3, as the long press on the Power Off option doesn't work as it does on the Nexus 7.
Anyway... just some thoughts.
Rgrds,
Ged.
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cool i didnt know about the safe reboot from complete shut down, good to know:good: