Hello
When i set internet to 2G i have no internet connection during a call. If i set it to 3G i do have internet during call.
Is that normal?
Birba said:
Hello
When i set internet to 2G i have no internet connection during a call. If i set it to 3G i do have internet during call.
Is that normal?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes it is.
This might not be really relevant but if you actually do want internet connection during a call try one of Haykuro's H Roms on his google page. Reportedly they allow browsing while talking to someone
I don't really want to change the rom there for.
But as it works on Haykuro's builds, maybe a developer could make it work on other builds.
Last time i checked it has to do with the frquencies *sp
Which, in my opinion, no can do
Last time i checked it has to do with the frquencies *sp
Which, in my opinion, no can do
Hehhehe! That's what so great about GSM 3G...data & calls simultaneously! You don't have to have a certain kind of ROM for data to work during a phone call, lol... I have noticed that it will sometimes switch to no connection during a call which would cause a drop out in data. The way this best remedied is to set the phone to 3G only under phone info settings. When I have it set to 3G preferred, I make a call and sometimes it will switch to 2G and therefore, losing my data connection (2G doesn't allow data & calls simultaneously). This does this even when 3G is still available. So if you're in a good area where 3G is prominent, switching settings to 3G will improve many things, just not your battery life.
Birba said:
Hello
When i set internet to 2G i have no internet connection during a call. If i set it to 3G i do have internet during call.
Is that normal?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is normal. 2G or EDGE cannot handle calls and data at the same time. 3G can handle calls and data at the same time.
Related
Hello,
I have a verry weird problem with my Tytn 2.
Most of the time when people try to call me, the phone doens't ring. the only thing i see is a small incomming call icon on top of the screen and the screen turns on. after that i get an sms message from my voicemail. (They get redirected to it)
Sometimes it just works well.
Dont know what is going on, but it is verry annoying. i miss a lot of calls every day.
Maybe anyone know the issue?
Btw on a sidenote, i check my Gmail every 5mins (1min disconect when idle) but it seems to consume a lot of data +- 15MB a day. Only email checking!!
Anyone who knows how that come?
Thanks!
r u on a 3G or 2G coverage?
If on 2G, some operators do not allow data and voice at the same time. So if you have your Internet connection on at almost all the times, your voice calls will automatically be switched to VMail.
But if you have a 3G connection. dunno.
as far as the net usage, do you download ALL the message? try loading only the headers? Do you also download the attachments? all these rack up.
kaluzu said:
r u on a 3G or 2G coverage?
If on 2G, some operators do not allow data and voice at the same time. So if you have your Internet connection on at almost all the times, your voice calls will automatically be switched to VMail.
But if you have a 3G connection. dunno.
as far as the net usage, do you download ALL the message? try loading only the headers? Do you also download the attachments? all these rack up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well i think i can select that at the menu 'Band' it is configured as 'Auto'
Can chose:
Type network: Auto, GSM or WCDMA
Select GSM/UMTS-band: GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100) or GSM(1900+850) or UMTS (2100+800)
i know my provider supports 3g
Or is that the wrong menu? and settings.
Thanks for the tip on the email. Attachments were already disabled. but i chosed to download all tekst and no images. But now i selected it to header only, will monitor how it goes.
Hm, maybe some more ppl with input?
i still think it has something to do with the internet connection that is active.
My Kasier switches between 2G and 3G depending on coverage. Based on the answer you already got above, this might explain the "random" nature of missed calls:
If your coverage at a point in time is 2G and an incoming call happens at the same time as a scheduled email download, the call gets redirected.
If your coverage is 3G, the call comes in normally.
I hate push email on my phone (it's a control thing) and pull email down when and if it suits me!
Hmm dunno if its a coverage problem i travel a lot, and today i missed 2 calls again. Damn its getitng annoying! maybe i need to try a hard reset?
Hm most pll say that the phone rings two times, and then switches to my voicemail. But i dont hear anything, only see a small phone icon in the top bar.
Rings twice and then voicemail is definetly you using data connection when someone calls.
I have had mine not ring and go to voice mail several times. Once when it happend, I called it myself, and watched teh phone, and I noticed that it thought I had on a BT headset. My BT was on on the phone, but I did not have a BT headset on. So, I think it was sending to BT, but there was not BT. I have started turning my BT off if I am in fact not using a BT headset or other BT device.
What radio version are you using?
popeye2755 said:
What radio version are you using?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Radioversion: 1.27.12.32
ROM version: 1.56.404.6
(Dutch rom)
I fixed it, by upgrading to a WM6.1 rom and update the radio version to: 1.64.08.21
I got way better batty life now to!
I've had a Tilt since it launched and have run multiple different roms. What has always happened since I bought it, is that my internet connection will drop when I'm on a phone. I don't understand. I shouldn't, right? None of my other non-WM phones dropped the internet connection.
That's one of the things I loved about GSM, I could be talking on the phone (via BT) and use the internet on it, but not anymore with this phone. IM+ will disconnect all the IM clients, which is the most annoying one. I think I've heard people in this forum say they don't have this problem. Is it a flaw with Windows Mobile itself (Microsoft catering to CDMA), the Kaiser model, firmware or my phone itself?
yep, drops my HSDPA when on call as well. It's probably normal.
hey man you know you can only use the phone and the internet at the same time on a 3g conection right? if its not that then i dont know whats up try a new rom i guess
hey i just saw that another person posted in here and had the same problem on a 3g network so i tried it out i can use the phone for data and a call at the same time im using a wm 6.1 rom not sure what one maybe its a problem with the service in your area
Man, some commas would really help..
Anyway.. when you say that u can use phone and internet at the same time - have you actually tried being on the call and browse internet? It does stay connected, but there is no traffic.
I don't think it has ever worked on my Kaiser. It works on my Razr v3xx. Maybe it is 3G. For some reason, now that I put a new 6.1 rom and a new 6.1 compatible radio, my phone is almost only on EDGE when I used to always be on HSDPA. Well, the battery life is better at least. I'll try again when I connect to a 3G network, which used to be always.
I don't think my Razr was limited to simultaneous voice + data only when on 3G.
fb.knight said:
hey man you know you can only use the phone and the internet at the same time on a 3g conection right? if its not that then i dont know whats up try a new rom i guess
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've known this too. Tethering and phone work in 3g for me as well.
yeah i did browse to a few sites made sure it was using the data. even made sure it wasnt just cached pages. hey if ur only getting edge maybe its ur radio rom? i was getting that for awhile new rom and it went away
I'm using HSDPA, never 3G (it switches to HSDPA when 3G is available).. it's definitelly faster.. but I have battery charge issues and no traffic while on call. Perhaps 3G doesn't have those issues, I will try it out.
I do get EDGE sometimes, but it's usually same spots. I guess some towers don't have 3G i-net connection, only EDGE. Some places, however, I always get HSDPA (usually where signal strength is high)
sorry i forgot not all 3g is hsdpa i should of clarified we have hsdpa over here
I have the same problem. 3G or H data connections drop when a call is made or received. reconnects when call is over. Anyone with ideas if it is the phone, radio or rom?
Solved!! After some digging around in the forum I found out that setting a limit to disconnect your data connection will cause this problem. If your using kaisertweak go under "Data" set the "disconnect after" to disabled (default) instead of the 1 minute(advised). for some reason this will now allow data and voice to work together and wont drop your data connection while on call anymore. Good luck with your device.
using PDA plan on wap.cingular
ATT TILT
Dutty_s_WM6.1_Official_UC_5.2.19199_RTM
POLAR_Radio_1.58.21.23
kaisertweak setting
I have this feature setup just like you and voice and data still doesn't work together
pacmanpoop said:
I have the same problem. 3G or H data connections drop when a call is made or received. reconnects when call is over. Anyone with ideas if it is the phone, radio or rom?
Solved!! After some digging around in the forum I found out that setting a limit to disconnect your data connection will cause this problem. If your using kaisertweak go under "Data" set the "disconnect after" to disabled (default) instead of the 1 minute(advised). for some reason this will now allow data and voice to work together and wont drop your data connection while on call anymore. Good luck with your device.
using PDA plan on wap.cingular
ATT TILT
Dutty_s_WM6.1_Official_UC_5.2.19199_RTM
POLAR_Radio_1.58.21.23
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had the same problem and this fixed my issue.
Hey guys!
I tried searching the forums on an answer to the question I'm having, but no luck. So.. here goes!
Is there a way to disable GPRS, and have only UMTS (and 3G, HSDPA) connections?
The reason I'm asking this, is that whenever I move into an area without UMTS coverage, it automaticly switches to GPRS. When this happens during a phone call, the call gets dropped! Also, while having a GPRS connection, noone is able to call me, without me noticing.
What I'd like to happen is that when there's no UMTS coverage, there will not be a data connection, at all, not even GPRS. (of course, GSM will be available at all times).
I've tried the utilities Bandswitch and CommMgr Pro (www.commmgrpro.com), but both do not seem to offer this feature.
Any idea's? Thanks in advance!
here you go, this should help( i hope ): Modaco NoData
I guess he'd want it to be automated, so as soon as the radio switches to GSM the connection gets disabled, and when it switches back to UMTS it gets enabled again.
I unfortunately haven't seen anything allowing it so far.
When this happens during a phone call, the call gets dropped!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can't do much about this, even with no data connection. The radio must disconnect/reconnect from the network to switch mode so the call wil be dropped anyway.
Hey you two, thanks for answering!
Unfortunatly Zee, the NoData utility actually drops the entire connection (3G included).
Maybe it's just not possible.. because to get a 3G/UMTS connection, it starts by making a GPRS connection.. at least, that's how I see it when it's trying to connect.
Still though.. I'm hoping for a way to get this working
w000ter said:
Hey you two, thanks for answering!
because to get a 3G/UMTS connection, it starts by making a GPRS connection..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, if your radio is in 3G mode when you establish the connection it should directly connect as 3G without going through GPRS.
It will go to 3G first before switching to HSDPA once a data transfer has started though, maybe that's what you saw.
Ah.. I get it.. thanks Kilrah! So.. it COULD be possible haha..
w000ter said:
Ah.. I get it.. thanks Kilrah! So.. it COULD be possible haha..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you want to get your hands dirty you could experiment with .NET CF
zeezee said:
If you want to get your hands dirty you could experiment with .NET CF
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Been thinking about that.. but nah.. too time consuming and I'm no wizkid either
But if you feel that developing such tool is your destiny, then by all means, go ahead ! hehehe
w000ter said:
Been thinking about that.. but nah.. too time consuming and I'm no wizkid either
But if you feel that developing such tool is your destiny, then by all means, go ahead ! hehehe
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Naw, i dont know enough about the technicalities of the cell phone to work with it, sorry
offtopic// Senior member!
zeezee said:
Naw, i dont know enough about the technicalities of the cell phone to work with it, sorry
offtopic// Senior member!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll just get my hands dirty on other stuff then..
w000ter said:
Hey you two, thanks for answering!
Unfortunatly Zee, the NoData utility actually drops the entire connection (3G included).
Maybe it's just not possible.. because to get a 3G/UMTS connection, it starts by making a GPRS connection.. at least, that's how I see it when it's trying to connect.
Still though.. I'm hoping for a way to get this working
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As mentioned in the thread, if you switch between EDGE/GPRS and 3G, your call and data are both dropped. This is why I stopped doing auto-switch with BandSwitch as I was always getting random call drops as it switched.
ie: I stay on EDGE, but I want to do 3G for a few minutes to download something. Then I get a call. The 10 minute switch timer I set expires, bam, call dropped.
khaytsus said:
As mentioned in the thread, if you switch between EDGE/GPRS and 3G, your call and data are both dropped. This is why I stopped doing auto-switch with BandSwitch as I was always getting random call drops as it switched.
ie: I stay on EDGE, but I want to do 3G for a few minutes to download something. Then I get a call. The 10 minute switch timer I set expires, bam, call dropped.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So that's basicly the other way around..
I'd like to avoid EDGE/GPRS all together, my calls not only get dropped when a GPRS connection is established, but also when data is being transferred. In fact, if I'm sending/receiving data on a GPRS connection, people are unable to call me, and I dont even notice.
Yeah.. this is why I really dislike GPRS, and love UMTS
w000ter said:
if I'm sending/receiving data on a GPRS connection, people are unable to call me, and I dont even notice.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep that's normal EDGE behavior, if you have a connection active but no data being transferred at the moment you get a call it will go through, but while data is going through the call gets dropped.
kilrah said:
Yep that's normal EDGE behavior, if you have a connection active but no data being transferred at the moment you get a call it will go through, but while data is going through the call gets dropped.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for confirming that Kilrah, it took me quite a while to figure out why that happens haha.
Will this allow me to set conditions for standard connection and Roaming Connection?
ie. i want to to use my UMTS connection when connected via 3G,
but when roaming, i want it to switch automatically to my alternate connection.
My Carrier : Connection 3services
Roaming : Connection 3netaccess
Is that possible?
I've noticed recently that I can't seem to access 2G/3G while on calls. I remember being able to do this with unrooted phone. Is there a feature or service I need to disable for this to work? I have wifi, gps, bluetooth all on at once, most of the time. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
SG_Shadow said:
I've noticed recently that I can't seem to access 2G/3G while on calls. I remember being able to do this with unrooted phone. Is there a feature or service I need to disable for this to work? I have wifi, gps, bluetooth all on at once, most of the time. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Never ever seen edge/3g on my mytouch or my old g1 my g1 wasnt ever rooted the mytouch is and like I said I've never seen the data icon on while in a call are 100% certain that it used to be on?
I have 2/3g while on calls on my rooted g1. I think the issue is if you're on call, and hit a blind spot where you get disconnected from your data connection but not voice (this happens to be often). It will not reconnect the data connect edge or 3g until I end the voice call. I also get into this problem if i'm connected on wifi while i'm on call and leaves the wifi area, it'll not connect to 2/3 g until i end the voice connection.
you cannot use 2g + voice at the same time. only 3g
I have low cellular signal in my house so i want to disable the phone's radio when on house wifi, but that option is "unavailable" in tasker.
Is there a work around to this? i know you can turn on airplane mode then turn back on wifi, but i want to know if there is a solution to just disable the radio.
Would this help? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1217038
Thanks.
bump 10char
I thought there was a plugin released recently that allowed something like this, sorry I can't find it though.
I have bad signal at home too so I just change over to 2g and battery does pretty well.
Why would you want to turn the radio off though? You won't receive calls/sms/anything.
Going to 2G and turning data off should be better surely?
signal is so weak that you can assume no signal at all in the house, so i'm not sure if just changing to 2g data is good enough since the phone will still continue to search for cellular signal which drains the battery.
i will try that at least for now and see if it helps, but ultimately, i do want to turn off the radio and leave on wifi.
i am able to receive calls via wifi through use of voip, receive sms via google voice.