Hi! For a while I've been searching for a reason why my phone seems to freeze almost daily while charging or before / after I snooze a morning alarm. And sometimes during the night, maybe it's random. By freeze I mean the phone is sleeping and when I push the power button nothing happens. The only way to restart it is to take off the cover and either remove the battery or press the little reset button.
I use itje's ROM with standard WM6.5 and Manila 2.1. I tried diferent builds and newer Leo ROMs, but I always get the same problem. It didn't happen some time ago when I was using WM6.1 + Manila 2.0.
While searching in the forums for solutions, I noticed there are some users with the same random freezes using various ROMs from different chefs. But most of the users don't seem to have this problem, which is weird. I guess the hardware should be the same, so does anyone have any idea why this freezing happens only to some of us?
I tried different methods and ROMs, countless hard resets and re-flashes, even additonal Stock-SPL and Hard-SPL, but nothing seems to work. It even happens if I install no other programs and don't have the SD inserted into the phone, only my SIM card. So it's not from external programs (like G-Alarm) either.
Well, any helpful information or advice? Thanks!
I am experiencing the same problem. If anyone got a solution for this, please share.
Regards, Eduardo.
i have the same problem to but only with the cooked wm 6.5 roms and higher not with the rom that came with my x1
i get the same problem. i'm using itje's Touch I-T Xperience 15 6.5
Now I flashed a WM6.1 ROM with Manila 2.1 to see if I still get the problem. Do you think our phones have a problem with the Windows 6.5 builds or maybe the problem is with Manila?
Did anyone try to live with one of these ROMS for a few days with Manila disabled to see if you still get the freeze? Maybe I'll try this also after I finish my 6.1 test. It's very annoying that we don't even know the cause for this freeze yet...
have the same problem when using 6.5 but when on 6.1 nothing of the kind...
Just to share. Some chefs have mentioned this and I myself can attest to it.
I was using 2 ROMs that were free of the problem more than 24 hours , Touch X 10.8.2 and Valkyrie 4.5.502. And both times I managed to cause the "standby of death" by using 2 different alarm programs, G-Alarm and Klaxon. Once I activated alarms using these programs, within 3-4 hours my phone froze.
That's my experience anyways. Some ROMs by default will die without doing anything, so I'm not sure about those. But if you have a stable ROM and want to avoid it, I think it should be fine.
Well, I can confirm that on various itje 6.5 ROMs I get the standby of death without installing any alarm program. I didn't install ANY programs, for what it's worth. And others can use G-Alarm 2.3 and don't get this freeze.
Didn't use Valkyrie ROMs yet. I'm testing now Touch X 10.8.2 and I have G-Alarm 2.3 installed. Let's see if it dies in the next 48 hours while on a 6.1 build...
Here is my experience...
I never got standby freeze issue(never used G-alarm/Klaxon), but i do get black screen or garbled screen issue randomly while receiving call irrespective of the ROMS(wm 6.5/6.5.1).
Only one time almost a week i didnt face this issue, then later problem repeated. So i realized that week i've used COM4 build. So for testing it i tried again same one for a week and problem didnt exists. Since the ROM which i used has default X1 dialer which i didnt like at all.. so got updated to other ROM and started face the same issue
Maybe some of us have a slightly different harware in our X1 that triggers this freeze, but only in WM 6.5?
So far the WM6.1 + Manila 2.1 is working fine, lots of customizations made by me after flashing too. G-Alarm managed to wake me up OK.
Darkchaser said:
Just to share. Some chefs have mentioned this and I myself can attest to it.
I was using 2 ROMs that were free of the problem more than 24 hours , Touch X 10.8.2 and Valkyrie 4.5.502. And both times I managed to cause the "standby of death" by using 2 different alarm programs, G-Alarm and Klaxon. Once I activated alarms using these programs, within 3-4 hours my phone froze.
That's my experience anyways. Some ROMs by default will die without doing anything, so I'm not sure about those. But if you have a stable ROM and want to avoid it, I think it should be fine.
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Well you can count Valkyrie 4.5.502 out because i installed it yesterday and this morning after my alarm went off about 20mins later the phone frooze. I have been experiencing this for the past months and i REALLY hate this phone now. I have tried all sorts of tricks from reseting the phone around 9pm to just not running ANY program and it still freezes. I have tried all sorts of roms with the exception of Touch X 10.8.2. I guess i might as well give that one a try. I will keep an eye on this thread for a solution.
On an older Valkyrie TR build I was getting the problem and I fixed it by doing a soft reset with the SD card out, waiting for everything to load up and run nicely, then inserting the card again. Went to the music tab and waited for it to load all my tunes and the same with photos. Didn't have the problem after that, but I was only on that ROM for about a week.
I thought it may be related to usb port driver issues in WM6.5, but it could also be the audiomanager in manila or some conflict between a WM6.5 process and a manila process.
Anyway, will be trying 4.4.81TR Valkyrie and see...
But the biggest question is why some (most) people never have this problem...
Never seen this problem on WCX 22001 Pure wm6.5 rom and I'm using it for about one month. I've installed many apps and my X1 works great with battery about 2-3 days using WIFI, BT, and all other stuff. No Manila - no problem in this case. It's an older build of WM6.5 but with newer builds WCX Rom users didn't complain about freezing problem or alarm issues.
So maybe it's Manila?
Today I wanted to flash Itjes newest ROM but I'll wait for solution couse my phone should wake me up today
Can program your phone Lockscreen has frozen the rechargeable device. Best before charging you restart your phone and not run any programs.
yes i get this problem too.. every morning my phone is off.... so it really needs to be looked into.. it seems to occur from more recent builds of 6.5..
i was previously using a wild child pure rom from about 3-4 months ago (6.5 early build)... this issue never happened...
then recently i upgraded to the V11 Unoff series and now it occurs.. and is obviously occuring for a lot of people with other recent builds of 6.5...
if the solution is ever found please let us know....
I might be completely off here... but I used to have this problem often, in addition to having slide to unlock malfunction on me, even with the newer rom builds.
When I unchecked the boxes that said display owner information/notes when device is turned on, both problems were gone - it might just be a coincidence though and I've only been testing it for 2 days.
Hey guys,
I've been having the same problem, only that this are the situations in which I faced the issue with my X1i (and managed to replicate the freeze):
-Receiving SMS while charging (no pc conection)
-Charging while alarm goes off (again no pc)
-When task or appointment announcement sets itself to sleep (i.e: you ignore it) while charging. (go figure, no PC)
-When after ignoring (not hitting dismissed button) task or appointment screen shuts off (Running on battery)
I've also gotten the problem in other situations, but i couldn't replicate them. The only Thing I did notice was that there is a growth in the rate this happens over a span of 3 days after flashing/hard reseting. In my case, it was one increment per day (ie: 1st day, happened once; 2nd day, twice; 3times the 3rd day.. then, i reseted or replicated, so my statistics went down the pipe )
Other thoughs: what radio are you guys using? maybe we can narrow it down to a radio as well. Thus far I've seen it narrowed it down to Manila 2.5, but then others do not have this (and then there me, with Manila 2.1, that has it ). I changed my radio y-day and hasn't happened yet (xing fingers though...) wil try to replicate tomorrow after my alarm wakes me up
My info:
X1i Black (came with R3 generic UK ROM, Radio. 1.14...)
Issues happened with: Radio 1.10.25.18 (Installed with NRG's ROM vOCT 28)
ROM info: (see signature..)
Manila: v2.1.191...
Current radio: 1.14...
Carrier: AT&T US
I tried to contribute as much info I could get about this issue... hope we can get it solved.
I'll try to flash again a WM6.5 version to see what radio will be installed. This week I needed my phone WORKING , so I used a 6.1 ROM.
I didn't find a pattern for my freezes, but I think it mostly happened while charging from the outlet, or in the morning before the alarm went off (very bad thing to happen), or after I snoozed the alarm (again, very bad).
I read somewhere that it's useful to format your SD card before flashing. I don't see how this could help, but I'll try to flash via USB or from another newly-formated SD card. I always flashed with kovsimg.nbh on the SD root and I only formatted it when I got the phone, 9 months ago...
Also, some say it's good to flash first an original ROM, hard reset, then install the custom ROM again. I tried that, even stock-SPL and hard-SPL again, but didn't seem to work. Maybe I had 48 hours without freeze, but then it started again.
@8SE8 - I never had those options checked, so we can rule that out I guess.
I have been reading about this issue here and in another forum - mainly
because I had seen it only one single time. It actually occured when I was
loading the device during the night. I do not remember which ROM it was
exactly, except that it was an itje ROM with Manila 2.5.
Then, I went back to Manila 2.1 and WinMo 6.1, Touch_X 10.X.X. Must say,
that is still my fallback ROM, it feels extremely fast, it is stable, memory
usage is low - what else to wish?
Next, I went to the multilanguage Rhodium based Manila 2.1 and WinMo 6.5
from itje in my own language. After installing FM Tuner, a correct dialer and
some tweaks, it is also very fast and stable, memory usage at 50%. No more
soft resets since almost a week now, no "stand-by of death".
The difference to others is maybe: I do not flash using the SD card, always
with the USB connection. Is this provoking the difference? I cannot imagine,
but this is what I can contribute here.
Hello. i am no cook lol, but I've flashed plenty of trouble free (not bug free) Roms between my old TP and my new TP2. The worst I ever saw was that POS htc messaging client.
Lately almost every ROM I flash has serious issues. My phone will stop responding so I soft reset and it takes foreeeever to boot up. If it all, usually stuck at ROM boot screen.
Then I loaded Viigo, rom says its untrusted and hard resets! Then doesnt work right! Then I tried restoring my PIMBackup and it wouldn't connect to Outlook. Before that, my data connection kept being very erratic, more off then on.
Very frustrating here. I thought maybe my phone was failing, but I saw another person complaining of the same thing.
can someone explain what causes this? I am on Tmobile, Tmobile TP2, and my usual ROMS are the Fusion and Shadowline ROMS, which have worked best for me. Never ever had these probs before. Is it the builds used? Possible virus (doubtful) or hardware failure?
With the shipped 6.1 rom i never had to reset. Honestly i never removed the battery cover until i installed my first cooked rom. I did some soft resets via hd restart just to free memory.
Most of the cooked roms are extremely buggy, also the official 6.5 doesnt power up from standby some times.
Energyrom photon is very stable though, better than official 6.5.
I highly suggest Pro Cell v5.5 (V6 being released soon!) never had any problems with it, is fast and responsive, looks the best in my opinion with colour icons etc 10/10 for me
Hello all,
I just got myself a Touch HD after waiting for a long time. I'm excited to be here and get to know a lot about my device after extensive reading on this forum. Its really well done and very very resourceful. Kudos to all you guys who are making this happen
Now, coming back to my device .. Ive had certain issues with my device and I wanna know from you guys if flashing to another ROM is necessary or not.
ROM Version : 1.18.723.3
Radio Version : 1.09.25.14
Touch Flo 3D version : 1.3.356******
My Concerns at the moment
1. TouchFlo 3D is not smooth at certain times and it gets stuck for a couple of seconds and its annoying.
2. Messaging screen hangs if i try to type my message quickly.
3. Phone takes about 3-4 seconds before it starts ringing.
4. I cannot flip through the mails from the touch flo 3d view.
5. The phone is constantly trying to connect to EDGE network. Even though i turn it off it still happens.
What I've done to correct these after referring the forums.
1. I'm not sure if I can update just the Touch flo 3d to a higher version without updating the ROM. So I havent done anything yet
2. I've tried to tweak the registry and also used HD Tweak to correct the ringing problem but still no good.
What I've installed on fone so far ?
1. I've got S2U2, HD Tweak , and some apps for Windows Market place.
What I really need ?
1. A smooth touch flo 3d version like the one for TP2 Sprint version [Its awesome]
2. Ring without delay
3. Smooth and easy messaging.
Now please suggest if a new ROM will fix these problems or I could just do away with cab files that could fix this problem ?
If a new ROM is required , based on "What i really need" can you suggest something which would get me close to or exactly the same ROM which is running on the TP2 Sprint version.
PS : I typed out a long description , so please excuse me if I went out of track and if somethings are unclear
@ MODS : I just realised that I may have posted in the wrong section. Please move it if necessary.
Hey,
I guess you're using a stock winmo 6.1 ROM. IMHO the stock ROMS are not as fast as some of the cooked ROMS found here. Difference between winmo 6.1 and winmo 6.5 is just personal taste but I prefer the 6.5 because of its finger friendly UI. Drawback is most of the ROMS drain the battery faster compared to 6.1. Maybe you can try a 6.5 ROM and see if you like it. I like Energy and Xannytech Roms, but again, that's personal taste. You can just flash a few and see what u like best.
As for the GPRS problem, some ROMS have cooked in apps for this, but I like WM Longlife as u can customize alot, ranging from completely disabling GPRS to not put it on when roaming. I hope I helped u a bit
Well , it is a stock rom as i just got this device last week. It was shipped from HK.
About flashing ROM's to my device , im still a lil too skeptical as I'm running Windows 7 and most of the flashing guides have reference to either vista or earlier versions of windows.
I also remember reading about a guy trying to flash a cooked rom and he was running Windows 7 and he claims to have bricked the device and it just refuses to turn on.
I'm still going through the wiki and downloading all the necessary tools required to flash my device. Once i'm a confident and comfortable I will go ahead and try out all the ROM's. I'm sure to get addicted to it.
And btw, if i flash the ROM to some cooked ROM and I decide to go back to stock ROM , will pushing the tiny reset button under the battery get my fone back to stock ROM ?
Like you, when I first got my HD, I was a bit concerned of bricking my device if I flash to a custom ROM. But let me tell you, with the stock ROM of yours, you wont see the full potential of your HD...I too experienced those things you mentioned and suffered for a while...if you feel its too early for you to flash, then just check some possible fix for your concern in cabs. I believe the HTC site has a fix for this typing delay bug, not sure about the ring issue.
But if you think its time, then read this Dummies Guide and just a heads up, flashing can be very addictive...so GET READY TO BECOME A FLASH-AHOLIC!
kieboy said:
...so GET READY TO BECOME A FLASH-AHOLIC!
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Agreed, this ability to transform your phone is quick addictive. Be prepared to loss a bit of sleep as the excitement of manipulating your device sometimes can replace your basic needs for other things...
Girlfriends / wives might notice a difference...LOL
Some of us are worse then other.....
band27 said:
Agreed, this ability to transform your phone is quick addictive. Be prepared to loss a bit of sleep as the excitement of manipulating your device sometimes can replace your basic needs for other things...
Girlfriends / wives might notice a difference...LOL
Some of us are worse then other.....
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Spot on ! I'm on XDA like all the time - @ work , @ school .. you name it .
I want to learn as much as possible before I try experimenting anything.
I did try all the patches that HTC has offered but , it hasnt fixed it. HD Tweak was really good and to some extent has solved my problems.
Does Windows 7 have anything to do while flashing the ROM , I mean do i need to take care of anything before I go ahead just in case in the future ?
napsterdj said:
Spot on ! I'm on XDA like all the time - @ work , @ school .. you name it .
I want to learn as much as possible before I try experimenting anything.
I did try all the patches that HTC has offered but , it hasnt fixed it. HD Tweak was really good and to some extent has solved my problems.
Does Windows 7 have anything to do while flashing the ROM , I mean do i need to take care of anything before I go ahead just in case in the future ?
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If you use HDSPL to protect your device then you are fine with Windows 7. However, if you use USPL then look <<HERE>>. Once again if you use HDSPL, then skip above drivers and follow <<HERE>>
Wait a second. Have you tried installing some 3D drivers first? And do you realize that Windows Mobile 6.1 is FASTER than 6.5?
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Wait a second. Have you tried installing some 3D drivers first? And do you realize that Windows Mobile 6.1 is FASTER than 6.5?
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I havent installed the 3D Drivers as yet. Does it enhance the performance of TF3D ?
I havent tried the 6.5 yet as i'm still on the stock ROM , but after i saw a video on youtube of Dutty's 3.9x turbo running 6.5 , i really want to try that ROM as it looked really smooth and fast.
hello there...
i need some help n want to know,why my phone when i turn the power button to turn on from off blacklight not working?i was flash many rom based 6.5 still same...when i reset n flash new rom it ok but after install same application the problem
Uhm,don't install that application?
i want just to know it because my softwares or hardware
sori i newbie and cannot speak english perfect
I think what is happening to you is the overall problem people have had with windows mobile 6.5, that sometimes while charging it simply will not turn on, the screen is black and you have to take out the battery to fix it. If this is the problem you can change it so that the screen does not turn off while charging in the power settings.
Then theres also the times when the mobile hangs after have been locked and turned off (atleast for me). But I figure this is due to applications I have installed. For example manila roms are sometimes pretty unstable, manila might collide with another software you have running and so the phone wont start.
My recommendation if this is a problem is actually to flash a 6.1 rom, the touch x rom is great: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561555
or perhaps a non-manila 6.5 like the energy titanium rom or the xperia unoff rom.
And to answer your question, it absolutely should be the software, as I suggested, test a 6.1 version and it should work great.
Good luck!
em maybe i try to change 6.1
i so tired to flash every day..huhu
thank u