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psx4droid

just heard about it and am rather excited. has anyone tested it on the g1? is it even playable?

yes i installed psx4droid on Cm6 on G1 i tested crash bandicoot and it works but exstremly slow, sound is also very poor
but its G1 so what do you expect.
thoughts awesome havent tested any other games yet im thinking if i disable comp cache and enable swapper on my swap partition then it may be faster...??

oh yh i have the same phone with cy6 and amon ra with death spl

in step by step detail can someone please explain the process of getting the rom to work. i tried a file from doperoms and when i putin the correct bios and clicked on the twisted metal zip it open another folder and said there was nothing in the folder. can you please guide me in this. i been so fustrated tryna figure this outfor a while now lol any help is appreciated

Don't download off dope roms unless you know how to convert their psx roms to .ISO or .BIN. I use emu paradise forums as long as the roms are in those two formats you should be fine the only problem is even with swapper or linux swap you cant get enough memory for the games. They seem to run incredably slow and it makes it unplayable unless someone can get the linux swap only to work for psx4droid so it only gives that program the memory it needs then maybe it'll play like the moto droid does with psx4droid. Anyway good luck with getting it run well.
If any progress in getting this to run smooth on G1 PM me

Sad to say it but psx4droid is just a novelty on the G1. Ive tried tekken on down to a 2d game like Suikoden. It makes no difference wat you do. Even overclocked to 700 sumtin mhz with set cpu you only can get around 5 fps.

I got it running a lil faster than 5fps I'm not sure but I keep it at default. And also I disable the sound it gives it a boost. But I will do a video on youtube tonight or tomorrow. Jus search my username androidappman and you will see the video it won't be hard to find.
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^^^ thanks i would love too see it running a couple of games to get the idea b4 i buy

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^^^ thanks i would love too see it running a couple of games to get the idea b4 i buy
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ok no prooblem im up and have one more ciggerette for the night lol so ill post it but im taking back what i said on it moving faster than about 5fps but again it could have been the game cause i had chosen silent hill but i heard ace combat was pretty smooth running as well as crash bandicoot but my issue is i wanna start a dropbox like sysytem to load all the converted games for others to have easy access to. but im a do the video about basically how to convert the game into the proper file type and do so in detail. so look out for me in the morning. p.s anyone get wit me on a site like dropbox so i can sign up and start uploading away with you all.

I also have CM6, and I tried this emulator out. Extremely slow, but seems to work. Needs a lot of optimizations, as I'm sure that the G1 can certainly emulate PSX full speed. How I know this? Cause I could on my Kaiser, with FPSCE. I was able to play Megaman 8 with sound with minimal slow down. Then again, I had to use Windows Mobile for FPSCE.
Considering the difference between the G1 and Kaiser CPU's are 128 Mhz, I really doubt it couldn't be done on the G1. Would like to also mention, on the Kaiser the 3D acceleration wasn't working either. So FPSCE had no help from the GPU.
My guess is that PSX4DROID uses the FPU that you'll find in many modern Android phones, but older phones like the G1 don't have one. They could probably optimize it to run at full speed on phones like the G1, but they would rather recommend getting a newer phone. Even though most PSX emulators for the PC requires a minimum of a 200 MHz chip, and our phones have a 528 Mhz chip.
Really wish more emulator developers would develop on the Android. As it is, it seems like Android only has one person working on emulators for the Android.

[Q] Enough is enough! How is it possible;

Today, a friend, called me to setup a new android phone for his wife. It was the cheap, very cheap, Alcatel Onetouch 908.
I transfered contacts, calendar events, configured emails and installed some apps from the market. The phone felt speedy, to be exact much more speedy than my Galaxy S and that started to bother me. What bothered me more was my friend, who has a Galaxy S II device. He told me out of the blue that alcatel felt speedier than his S II. I finished and 'take it for a walk'. I started sequently loading apps (browser, gmail, contants, market and talk) and then multitasked between them. The initial loading was almost immediate and, to my suprise, mutitasking was instant. My Galaxy felt like a second class device, my world shuttered... almost
I left my friend and I was angry, very angry. How could that be? I've tried numerous roms, customs and stock ones, with lagfixes enabled or disabled but, truth to be told, all of them felt like rubbish compared to an alcatel onet... I don't want to tell the evil's name!
Now, I am still angry but not with Alcatel,.. with Samsung! Am I wrong? What are your thoughts? Does anyone have an answer? Was just my imagination?

I don't suppose you have tried running 3D games on it?
knowledge is Power. Guard it well.

I did and it was fantastic... just kidding
No I didn't. But now you've said it, just for the laughs, next time I will be around, I'll try angry birds... if possible (although not a 3D game... I think)!

Ugliest thing ever seen on Internet
aaaaaaaaawwwwwwww, this is uglyyyyy, what an ugly phone, even if it had the speed of light, or even faster, the speed of thought or even much faster than those the speed of GOD, I would take the SGS anytime.
btw, try quadrant too, see if you get some noticable scores with it, if it's really worth your time, but if it was me, I wouldn't even set it up for a girl friend, let alone a friends girl.

well its the same story again u see a new android phone unused or if even used then used very very lightly(just calls,sms,have 10-25 apps. and all that) ! man any android pgone newly bought and used lightly can be very fast! i saw my friends galaxy ace on 2.2 bpught just 3 days ago and very lightly uaed and it was working like a lightning! if you want to see your phone this fast then flash stock jvs and you'll face lightning but as soon you get some apps in and start using it heavily youll start facing lags! download 100 apps. and do heavy multitasking on that alcatel for a week or so and youll start hating it and will throw it into a dustbin!
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You should try CyanogenMod 7 (CM7) out of the box (no apps/games installed).
It's just fast - the speed is nearly amazing. Same thing with MIUI.
And just forget stock-ROMs. You won't want to use them after you have tried an AOSP-ROM (CM7 or MIUI).

Lunchbox115 said:
You should try CyanogenMod 7 (CM7) out of the box (no apps/games installed).
It's just fast - the speed is nearly amazing. Same thing with MIUI.
And just forget stock-ROMs. You won't want to use them after you have tried an AOSP-ROM (CM7 or MIUI).
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Its not like that exactly but its very true both cm7 and minuit out of the box are amazing infraction I just installed 1.9.16 miui and it has just 7 apps. Installed and it's balzing fast ! But minuit has many problems of its own so I am moving back to Samsung based rom jetpack v5 spark very soon !
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Thanks for the replies...
-I've tried CM7: it was fast but... it didn't felt home. So I dished it and went back to the samsung related rom's!
-Yes, SGS is prettier than 908 but really it's not so ugly. After all, my post was about speed, not beauty.
-So, if I load alcatel with 100+ apps I will feel the pain you say. We'll see... But if it's true then I will be angry again, very angry... with Google!

Memory Management
The thing about multitasking is that is related mainly with memory and memory management. I think it's true, if enough free memory exists any os will keep more tasks active and multitask between them will be instant...
But android keeps loading and unloading apps, in the background, which I almost never use but consume memory.
Skype is the perfect example. When i do not need it, I am signing off skype and go straight back to my home screen... Of course, as we all know, skype persists and never exits. It's just sits there consuming memory and doing nothing. If I try to kill it, android will happily and immediately reload it. The only way really kill it, is to uninstall it, but is this a solution?
One more example? The facebook app or the friencaster app. Even if I disable every automatic refresh or log off from facebook some part of them will keep running and like skype I cannot kill it.
The essence of all this is that: I own a phone with 512 mb of ram assisted with a powerful, 1 GHz, CPU, much - much more than an alcatel OT 908 and this doesn't show. Maybe is the 100+ apps I've installed in my phone, maybe is android, maybe is a bug, maybe it's me whining. Whatever is it... it's wrong and yes, I'm starting feeling angry, very angry with... Google and Samsung

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The thing about multitasking is that is related mainly with memory and memory management. I think it's true, if enough free memory exists any os will keep more tasks active and multitask between them will be instant...
But android keeps loading and unloading apps, in the background, which I almost never use but consume memory.
Skype is the perfect example. When i do not need it, I am signing off skype and go straight back to my home screen... Of course, as we all know, skype persists and never exits. It's just sits there consuming memory and doing nothing. If I try to kill it, android will happily and immediately reload it. The only way really kill it, is to uninstall it, but is this a solution?
One more example? The facebook app or the friencaster app. Even if I disable every automatic refresh or log off from facebook some part of them will keep running and like skype I cannot kill it.
The essence of all this is that: I own a phone with 512 mb of ram assisted with a powerful, 1 GHz, CPU, much - much more than an alcatel OT 908 and this doesn't show. Maybe is the 100+ apps I've installed in my phone, maybe is android, maybe is a bug, maybe it's me whining. Whatever is it... it's wrong and yes, I'm starting feeling angry, very angry with... Google and Samsung
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Assuming your phone is rooted there are apps that can disable or prevent other apps from starting and running in the background- android optimize and autostarts seem to work for me.
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Looking at the specs for the OneTouch, I am not surprised it is fast.
The 600mhz chip it is using is quite overpowered for what is effectively a featurephone. It is also supporting a much smaller, less advanced screen (256K colors, TFT) which frees up a LOT of cpu cycles for basic functions. This kind of speed while just being a phone is why feature phones aren't as dead as people keep assuming.
It is also running Froyo, which was made for this kind of phone and likely races on it, without having to worry about the sort of strains a Galaxy class smartphone puts on an OS.
Remember, if you install a slimmed down OS on a custom designed modern laptop, and ONLY install a handful of programs no doubt it will break speed records. However, to judge it against a fully loaded, professional install is like comparing apples and oranges.

milro1970 said:
I did and it was fantastic... just kidding
No I didn't. But now you've said it, just for the laughs, next time I will be around, I'll try angry birds... if possible (although not a 3D game... I think)!
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alcatel ot 908 runs NFS shift, NOVA, Gangstar, BIA2, Sandstorm, Sims3, Rackless Racing, GuerillaBob, dead space....runs 99% hd games that don't requires armv7 or 2.3
it's way better then most off QVGA android and all msm7201 and msm7225.... (hvga and qvga)
for that money...

Well I have to say.
Just bought this second hand SGS to test and compare with my Desire HD.
If I can be honest. Both have the same clock freq and specs seems the same, but the DHD (lets call it that way) is alot faster than the SGS.
I am amazed how long it takes to just open the camera. On the DHD the camera app opens in half a second I think.
Then sometimes you click on something and nothing happens making you think that you didn't click anything at all. On the DHD opening anything is instant.
I'm running Darky 10.22 so if someone knows if I need to change something to make this a faster thing please let me know.

the only advantage of the desire hd and the alcatel ot 908 (i own one of these and a desire S, very similar to the hd hardware-wise) is that out-o-the-box, they're configured almost perfectly for their respective OS version and hardware.. Samsung makes some very tough and cutting-edge hardware, but they've always been lagging behind software-wise (and still are to some extent, i know what i'm talking about here too : my main device is a note2 N7100 and my dev/test device is my old -but almost unbreakable even when I'm the one who opens it up to solder or repair sthg in it- galaxy s2 i9100... None of those were left "stock", they're both fitted with CM10-derivated ROMs (most of the time a ParanoidAndroid or some derivate), heavily customized and "after-market" optimized (thanks to all the good tips&tweaks found here at XDA ^^) just to remedy those problems.. Never for my life would I leave one of these stock (I run a stock firmware on a dual-boot on the SGS2, but that's only for entering USSD codes, as these usually won't work on CM7/9/10 ROMs)... And yet, they're both way better when they're still "stock" than the Wave 1 was, with his powerful 1GHz Snapdragon CPU, but a puny 512Mb RAM -shared with the OS/CPU and GPU at that, leaving a mere 312Mb -give or take- to the poor user.. Far too low for its memory-hungry Bada OS,even in its latest and last 2.X versions.. I couldn't even open a second page in its Dolphin browser before it started shutting down background apps and closing widgets.. :s).
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milro1970 said:
Thanks for the replies...
-I've tried CM7: it was fast but... it didn't felt home. So I dished it and went back to the samsung related rom's!
-Yes, SGS is prettier than 908 but really it's not so ugly. After all, my post was about speed, not beauty.
-So, if I load alcatel with 100+ apps I will feel the pain you say. We'll see... But if it's true then I will be angry again, very angry... with Google!
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you won't be able to load that many apps on it m8... ^^
even with a big-ass 32Gb SD card, its /system and /data partitions are way too tiny for this number.. trust me, I've tried it, it choked at 20-30 tops for "average" apps (between 1 and 4Mb each)...

Bored so much... My next is WP7

I'm bored so much everyday something has broken.
With stock rom I can't play dungeon defenders with my PowerSGX 540
And with sucked balls iphone is smooth on this game.
With CM7 browser is laggy and stock kernel is so poor. Look fps in quadrant. F...k quadrant score but just look what a poor fps. After flashing glitch kernel dungeon defenders is so smooth but now it brings millions of bugs.
And now accelerometer doesn't work great it lags on CM7 or MIUI with all type of kernels. And these days are end of gingerbread. We still don't have a great gingerbread or froyo.
I have a great GPU chip great CPU chip I will put all of them into my somewhere. F...k samsung sorry for offtopic I bored so much.
Now CM9 will come with a big "0". Fix bugs fix bugs fix bugs ... And CM10 + a big 0 fix bugs fix bugs.
When can I use this sh*t?
My next phone will be a Windows Phone 7.5 or something. SGS FOR SALE.

LOL. 10 Chars.

Stupid thread, no one wants to know that u r buying a wp7. And if u wanted to sell your sgs then eBay is a better place then xda.

There is no cure for stupidity..

Before I commited myself to a 2 year contract, i researched which phone to buy for a full month. Consequently, i never moan, ***** or whinge like a little girl.
What did you do? Pull your phone out of a hat?
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This guy has a point. I play with a phone, not games though. That's why Android is perfect phone for me

I am really wondering what games he is gonna play on Windows Phone !?

To those joking with OP...can you guys name one gingerbread firmware released by Samsung that is not laggy..buggy etc etc.

Well I'm using the following combination and it works like a charm!
ODEXED Stock JVR + CF-Root + Thunderbolt 1.9 60MB LMK + Arc Launcher 2.0.
I've got pretty high FPS in games and Quadrant scores are like 2400 - 2500.
Maybe you should try it? I'm playing 9mm wich is a 1.6GB game and works pretty good!

I don't play games that often in mobile,might try the above mentioned combo. I need a firmware that works,trusty alarm clock,etc.Samsung does not give a damn about the bugs on recent firmwares that's the reason i feel with the thread starter.

TigerCourage said:
Well I'm using the following combination and it works like a charm!
ODEXED Stock JVR + CF-Root + Thunderbolt 1.9 60MB LMK + Arc Launcher 2.0.
I've got pretty high FPS in games and Quadrant scores are like 2400 - 2500.
Maybe you should try it? I'm playing 9mm wich is a 1.6GB game and works pretty good!
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Lets try dungeon defenders. You can't even just open game with this combination.
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Just tried out Dungeon Defenders. Got real laggy the first time I played at wave 3 of the first level but I restarted and it ran perfect after that. Pretty fun game. Shame if I have to restart every time though as I usually only restart when I install new kernels and stuff or go for weeks of up time.
Big bottleneck with this phone is lack of RAM, and Dungeon Defenders wants a lot of it. It says 256 MB free required, well that's tough with 330-350 MB usable. I run Semaphore bigmem with 352 MB RAM (with stock JVT odexed) and I noticed after exiting the game that 205MB was free (in the 'manage applications' 'running' tab) and I'm guessing the game was using most of that. It's a very demanding app though, most run just fine. The only problems with RAM I've had previous to this is that if do lots of stuff Slacker in the background will get killed from time to time and that may have been due to LMK settings that I was using at the time.
SGS is a great phone but it would be even better if Samsung had given us 512MB usable RAM, then programs that need 250MB would run no sweat. Seems like 1GB of RAM is going to be required real soon for people that want to run the demanding games. My SGS has served me well but I'll be eyeing the new phones with 1GB in the new year. Shame because other than the RAM, and perhaps SD card speed but that is more of a want than a need, I could easily hold off until the following year.

haloimplant said:
Just tried out Dungeon Defenders. Got real laggy the first time I played at wave 3 of the first level but I restarted and it ran perfect after that. Pretty fun game. Shame if I have to restart every time though as I usually only restart when I install new kernels and stuff or go for weeks of up time.
Big bottleneck with this phone is lack of RAM, and Dungeon Defenders wants a lot of it. It says 256 MB free required, well that's tough with 330-350 MB usable. I run Semaphore bigmem with 352 MB RAM (with stock JVT odexed) and I noticed after exiting the game that 205MB was free (in the 'manage applications' 'running' tab) and I'm guessing the game was using most of that. It's a very demanding app though, most run just fine. The only problems with RAM I've had previous to this is that if do lots of stuff Slacker in the background will get killed from time to time and that may have been due to LMK settings that I was using at the time.
SGS is a great phone but it would be even better if Samsung had given us 512MB usable RAM, then programs that need 250MB would run no sweat. Seems like 1GB of RAM is going to be required real soon for people that want to run the demanding games. My SGS has served me well but I'll be eyeing the new phones with 1GB in the new year. Shame because other than the RAM, and perhaps SD card speed but that is more of a want than a need, I could easily hold off until the following year.
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Totally agreed. Flashing back to froyo now. For more ram.
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For games playing, 2.2.1 is only choice.

BHuvan goyal said:
Stupid thread, no one wants to know that u r buying a wp7. And if u wanted to sell your sgs then eBay is a better place then xda.
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Theres no need to bash someone like that. He's got a valid point in terms of games and the lags inspite of the superb hardware our phone has. After all this hardcore specs...gingerbread released by samsung is ****...yeah i know theres CM7...but come on...lets just talk about phone thats just out of the box...

i also just downgraded to froyo 2.2.1 jsd yesterday...its awesume for playing games......and i also applied supercharger script...i get lot of free ram.....
i had also tried jpk but jsd is awesume...

Well, every time I exit 9mm wich is a very demanding game, I get like 179 free ram. Also, the ARC launcher is very optimized to run on low ram (wich makes it lightweight) and doesn't redraw like TouchWiz 3 bull****.
I can't try Dungeon Defenders couse I'm out of internal SD storage all because I have a lot of games installed on my 8GB version xD.

Quadrant scores mean little to nothing in reality though.

Whole thread should change the topic to:
I'm very disappointed because I had no idea what I'm buying and what for I will use it.

well, for me riptide gp, dungeon defenders, shadowgun etc. run perfectly on jvt+doctorz rom v9+thunderbolt tweaks 1.9.1 50 lmk+loopy tweaks+semaphore kernel 1.8.2 at 1200mhz and they are like butter on 1300mhz. u can say my sgs has a bit of a better processor then most sgs out their. i get 4000 quad. easily with this combo. i am very satisfied with gingerbread and i believe windows phone 7 doesnt even these high graphic games so its just a waste of money to move on windows phone or even ios.

Real Racing 2 game to android market

Hi guys,
In case you don't already know this superb racing game with unmatched graphics and gameplay you really must check it out.
http://youtu.be/TOfG1zJbKbQ
The game features licensed cars and 15 player multyplayer mode.
Please help drawing the developer's attention to port this game in android market and leave your thoughts here: getsatisfaction.com/firemint/topics/will_real_racing_2_get_in_the_android_store

Sorry but i think this ain't gonna happen. This is a real console quality game, they spent a lot of money to develop it and optimize it to make it work perfectly for the a5 soc: porting it to Android will lead to insane costs in order to make it suitable for a hundred different pieces of hardware.
Nowadays Apple's app store sells 85% of all the mobile apps in the world, a serious game developer with working brain cells will never spend millions just in order to get to that additional 15% of the market that we represent. Also i'm pretty sure that even the most powerful hardware we have now on this platform would be unable to run this game properly: the gpu in the a5 soc is twice as powerful as the mali-400 in the GS2...

vnvman said:
Apple's app store sells 85% of all the mobile apps in the world
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just wow, wasn't aware of this fact
vnvman said:
the gpu in the a5 soc is twice as powerful as the mali-400 in the GS2...
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i'm just stunned, in every video comparasson of 4s and sgs2 the iphone gets bashed... come to think of it nobody mentioned in any comparassion (and i watch a lot) about the gpu/chipset diferrences... i guess it's never gonna be a fair "trail" between them and everybody is more or less a "fanboy" of either two..
L.E. after your post did some research and found this http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111026235448AArPNUy , it explains everything.
Thanks and ppl might as well leave this topic to "die"...

Well actually when i say that the gpu of the iPhone is faster i mean it really is faster, even on paper: it's not a matter of software. I read it here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17
When i got this phone i knew that the iPhone4s (or even the iPhone4) would have been better for games, but all in all despite the fact that mobile games can be fun at times mobile gaming in general kinda sucks in my opinion: sure you can have the best graphics in the world and whatnot, but the only games you can really play on a small touchscreen panel without going nuts are puzzle games (which look great on the huge Samoled+ of this phone), and those ones run on pretty much every piece of junk. At the end of the day those are the games you play the most when you're on the go, while instead those haeavy 3d games are mostly useless because of their complexity (not to mention the amount of battery they drain), so you end up playing them when you are at home on the coach. This sounds pointless to me because if i'm at home i'd rather like to play Battlefield 3 on my gaming rig: now this makes sense, don't you think?

Real Racing 2 was released yesterday...just saying...

What the.. EA? The original maker is Firemint?
Either way, here's the link. Only compatible with my Desire HD, and not the Galaxy Note? What the...
https://market.android.com/details?...yLDEsImNvbS5lYS5nYW1lLnJlYWxyYWNpbmcyX3JvdyJd
Article:
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/22/rea...the-android-market-leaves-part-1-in-the-dust/

LordManhattan said:
Only compatible with my Desire HD, and not the Galaxy Note? What the...
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You could test this version for your Note: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.ea.game.realracing2_na (not sure if it's compatible though).

Thanks, but it's a no go Just have to wait i guess.

Lower end but good phones?

Hey all...
I am considering a Windows Phone 8.
But, I can't decide if a lower-end WP8 is worth the money. Take for example, an HTC 8S.
It costs 19,000 here. That's 350$. And even the LUMIA 820 is about 400$ though no official price is out yet.
My question, from a future perspective, are these phones worth buying? Or only the top end models will sustain what the future has to throw at it?
Like, for example: Already a couple of games are built with minimum 1GB RAM. 512MB of the 8S outdated already?
In short, is it an investment or a waste of money?
Sent from my RaZr on MIUI.

The chance of the new WP8 devices being phased out soon(next 2 years or so) is really small, so buying a WP, regardless of specs, is a good idea. You will have support from MS and OEM.

I'd buy it again...
Depends on what you want.
If you need a buttload of apps, the 8s is not for you due to the tiny internal storage. If you play high-end games, it's not for you either due to the limited RAM.
I have 19 apps installed, never play games, but use the browser and other internet related apps all day long, and am extremely happy with purchasing the 8S.
I see from your signature you're running MIUI on your android. If your like me, that's because android is ugly, and for some reason just not cutting it, which leads to flashing all sorts of ROM's, trying to find that sweet spot of smartphone heavenness... I've found that in the midrange HTC 8S (who'd have thought?)! It has great battery life, great sound output, never lags, great build quality, great looks etc.
Also my personalisation 'OCD' is well satisfied with the extremely custimizable homescreen, which was a major concern for me. It does all this while maintaining an uniform look.
I am positively surprised by the HTC 8S, as well as by Windows Phone 8.
I'd buy it again in a heartbeat.

jodeltje said:
Depends on what you want.
If you need a buttload of apps, the 8s is not for you due to the tiny internal storage. If you play high-end games, it's not for you either due to the limited RAM.
I have 19 apps installed, never play games, but use the browser and other internet related apps all day long, and am extremely happy with purchasing the 8S.
I see from your signature you're running MIUI on your android. If your like me, that's because android is ugly, and for some reason just not cutting it, which leads to flashing all sorts of ROM's, trying to find that sweet spot of smartphone heavenness... I've found that in the midrange HTC 8S (who'd have thought?)! It has great battery life, great sound output, never lags, great build quality, great looks etc.
Also my personalisation 'OCD' is well satisfied with the extremely custimizable homescreen, which was a major concern for me. It does all this while maintaining an uniform look.
I am positively surprised by the HTC 8S, as well as by Windows Phone 8.
I'd buy it again in a heartbeat.
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Thanks a lot for your reply. It is just strange how u guessed it right that I have gone through a trazillion ROMs to arrive at one. Android IS ugly. In fact, after buying my OWN iPad Mini, (I got dad an iPad 2 for his birthday few months back) I realize what Android actually is, an UGLY twin of iOS.
Plus, the number of malware attacks, and the number of permissions granted by us to the apps is just scary.
Now coming to WP & 8S more specifically, the only thing worrying me is that some good games have already been developed that require at least 1GB RAM. The games that need 512 MB RAM look like student projects to me. That made me think twice. I haven't even bought the device and its outdated. I am not a gaming person at all. In fact, I am going to install not more than 10 apps, just like you.
The problem isn't LUMIA 820. The problem is I am in love with 8S.
And, god forbid, if 820 also becomes outdated half a dozen months later, I will be doomed.
But I get what you are saying, 8S is good. Period.
mcosmin222 said:
The chance of the new WP8 devices being phased out soon(next 2 years or so) is really small, so buying a WP, regardless of specs, is a good idea. You will have support from MS and OEM.
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2 years? I heard new devices will be announced in the upcoming CES 2013?
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Even if new devices come around, the "old" ones will not be phased out of support.
As far as games are concerned, the 8s is not exactly the phone that is aimed at gamers. You still have a lot of nice 512 RAM games, you just need to find them (99% of all apps in the marketplace are aimed at 512 devices). The biggest problem with the 8s is the storage size: out of 4 GB, at least 1.5 is taken by the system, and you can't install things on SD card.

mcosmin222 said:
Even if new devices come around, the "old" ones will not be phased out of support.
As far as games are concerned, the 8s is not exactly the phone that is aimed at gamers. You still have a lot of nice 512 RAM games, you just need to find them (99% of all apps in the marketplace are aimed at 512 devices). The biggest problem with the 8s is the storage size: out of 4 GB, at least 1.5 is taken by the system, and you can't install things on SD card.
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Thanks...i was wondering if any way to check how much RAM a game needs. The MS Store on the desktop browser shows everything but that.
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Applications you can't install are hidden by default in the marketplace.