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[Q] smoothness?

might be a stupid question in general but is any developing heading towards steering up the ****ty smoothness in the galaxy s in general?
feels like im running 5 fps at some points, so i was kinda wondering..
ofc iops is is crap aswell but i dont really mind ****ty accesstimes as long as the smoothness is preserved, so~
can anything be done about this or do i throw this piece of .."phone" under my 70ton excavator? ;(
//regards azure

READ THE FORUM!
There are plenty of fixes.
@Mods: Close this thread asap!

sadly none of em fixes the smoothness, they just boast higher io rate not fps >_<
im not sure if you know what the difference between "rendered frames per sec" is vs "reads/writes from an sdchip" causing i/o lag
but in short it means theres 2 types of "lags" one of them being addressed atm, and sadly its not the fps one.
or are my demands too high to request from the phone? >_<

I'm not really sure what exactly you're referring to when you say "smoothness", but try using a different launcher (I'd recommend LauncherPro). LauncherPro has always felt "smoother" to me!

yes, a good example of smoothness on 2.1. whats worse is that on the new firmwares it constantly dips when it goes beneath 22mb cache causing a frameratedrop, and due to the galaxy s being hampered with vsync w/o the fps to back the refreshrate up it stutters i.e gets halved fps for a short amount of time, might just be a sec or 2 but when its constantly there it starts to grow out as a nail in the eye ;(
and my highest wish ofc is to be able to use the tw appdrawer style which isnt possible with anything else today ;(
although thank you very mucho for the tip and im open for any other suggestions aswell, gonna try to get a hold of the driverfile in the meantime

people are trying to tell you the problem is not in the video, which is true.
you are experiencing the lag, that many are complaining about.
the system lags when you've got too many apps running or iddling in the background.
you can either install the various lag fixes people have developed
or you can simply install a good task manager + auto run killer and control which apps to allow in memory, and which should be closed when not in use.

well quite frankly i dont even need a single app installed or opened to see it, just freshly install any 2.2 fw and pinch, there you have it, open up the apppreviews in the same manner, once again, even if it opens up faster with any lagfix (ill hand you that much atleast since ive tried all availible fw's and lagfixes, kernels you name it) it still looks at the very least as its frameskipping like an old NES >_<

if that is the case, it might be a defective screen/video in your unit.
might want to consider having it exchanged..
I can count at most roughly 5 people that have mentioned something similar to what you found.
Personally i'm still on stock 2.1 and i do not see those flame skipping you have described.
do you have any App specifically where to reproduce this?
i play 3D games and run all kind of apps in my SGS and it've yet to see a skipped frame

aye i do too and i havent noticed anything quite as severe as the homescreen other when the framerate drops from vsync 1:1 to 2:1 or even 4:1 ( clearly visible in quadrant bench when its up on 56 its smooth and when it drops to 30 its choppy) ideally id just wanna rid myself of it since i doubt ill have to worry about screentearing on an sgx540 lol and the biggest hickup would be somewhat soothened since i imagine the real frame drop is less than 50%, anyways thx for the feedback, gonna have it turned in for a check and stop using the ip4 >_<
//cheerz azure

[Q] Ram of Samsung Galaxy S

I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S and just upgrade to 2.2 Froyo. I'm just wonder a things that. Do you know why Samsung Galaxy S only displays that It has 304mb Ram. Samsung confirmed that Galaxy S has 512mb Ram. Why the phone displays too little ram like that.
When I use 2.1 Android. Galaxy S displayed 348mb Ram and now on 2.2 Android the number is 304mb.
Can you explain that for me?? Thanks all you guys alot.

512MB hardware, 208 system reserved , 304 user/application usable.
IMHO, 208 system reserve is quite large.. with 2.1 i never had a chance to see 348mb ram XD

i noticed that too. awaiting someones response

208 system reserved, so we can't change this. 304 is not enough in some case.

Well try to read all 100 tread about this.
So far i don't se the problem. I never run out of memory.
My phone is fast and don't lag.
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DamianGto said:
Well try to read all 100 tread about this.
So far i don't se the problem. I never run out of memory.
My phone is fast and don't lag.
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Lucky you with your lovely SGS

Oletros said:
Lucky you with your lovely SGS
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If you know what you are doing its not hard.
If you don't it vary easy to read in the forum and learn about all things.
The main reason people has problem and write this kind of tread is they are so lazy to read that's already in the forum.
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200 mb reserved for what? video playback? screen transitions?

Here we go again....
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yeah, here we go...
On my previous HTC Desire had 512 Ram w/o external RAM, so I had to install all apps onto internal RAM... After 10-12 app installed, I had 32MB free space, and it was enough. (ok after froyo I could use the app2sd too) - yeah it was very miserable

DamianGto said:
If you know what you are doing its not hard.
If you don't it vary easy to read in the forum and learn about all things.
The main reason people has problem and write this kind of tread is they are so lazy to read that's already in the forum.
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Another answer which blames on the user.
Sorry, SGS 2.2 doesnt' have so much free memory available. And compared with other smartphones you can't do the same things withouth Android starting to kill background processes.

Oletros said:
Another answer which blames on the user.
Sorry, SGS 2.2 doesnt' have so much free memory available. And compared with other smartphones you can't do the same things withouth Android starting to kill background processes.
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Well its true about the user fault.
Why do you need to run so much background program?
The main problem is that people thinks it is a computer with alot of memory. Well its not.
If you don't like it then sell it and buy a phone with more free ram.
Even how much people complain here it don't change anything.
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Hi,
Now you're speaking about SGS ram... Does anybody knows if its PowerVr SGX540 has dedicated ram as Snapdragon's chipset has?
Adreno 200, being a worse performer, has 64 mb of dedicated video mem.
Cheers!

DamianGto said:
Well its true about the user fault.
Why do you need to run so much background program?
The main problem is that people thinks it is a computer with alot of memory. Well its not.
If you don't like it then sell it and buy a phone with more free ram.
Even how much people complain here it don't change anything.
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The main problem is people expects that this phone will work as advertised. And if Samsung sells it sying that it has 512MB of RAM I will want to work like other phones which have 512MB of RAM, not like a phone which have 292MB of RAM.
And yes, you don't change anything, it seems that you have an exceptional SGS which doesn't lags, doesn't have low memory problems, GPS works like a charm. If someone whines about GPS, memory, lag is always fault of the user, not the phone.
And then we will laugh at Apple fanboys when we have a lot of Samsung fanboys here

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The main problem is people expects that this phone will work as advertised. And if Samsung sells it sying that it has 512MB of RAM I will want to work like other phones which have 512MB of RAM, not like a phone which have 292MB of RAM.
And yes, you don't change anything, it seems that you have an exceptional SGS which doesn't lags, doesn't have low memory problems, GPS works like a charm. If someone whines about GPS, memory, lag is always fault of the user, not the phone.
And then we will laugh at Apple fanboys when we have a lot of Samsung fanboys here
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Show me where Samsung say it has 512MB ram that user can use?
The fact is that sgs do has 512MB ram.
And none of the smartphone has all ram free for the user.
That's one problem also that people don't read and understand how things work.
Im NOT a Samsung fanboy.
But i know what i did buy and i know how to fix things.
I also have iphone to compare this sgs with.
But many people are to lazy to read information and learn about things.
They buy this phone and only read some advertising for it and THINK they know about it.
80% of the people that's has bought this phone and complain should not bought it. Its not the right phone for them.
My girlfriend did buy a sgs to.
She did compare this phone and the iphone. It was a easy choice for her. But if she did not have the 2 phones and could compare them and have me to ask and have me to modifies the phone i guess she would choose the iphone. Just for she had heard much about it.
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@DamianGto, i don't know if you are a samsung fanboy, really, i don't care, but sure you behave like one of them. you are everywhere, like your counterpart oletros, bashing people, never being constructive. you are not a knight, galaxy s is an object, not your princess...and yes, like any other smartphone it has problems. yeah, i know, don't be upset, your galaxy s is just perfect, i was talking about others sgs
it's not a phone, it's a smartphone...i think sgs is too much for you, you don't need it to make phone calls, you'll be fine with a 30 euros phone...then you can tell people "it's just a phone!"
just a question...why do you still have your iphone? why don' you sell it and buy another super-amazing sgs? you can buy two sgs with an iphone, what are you waiting for??
@oletros, come on, you behave like my grandfather, always talking about how good was staying in germany and how bad italy was...everytime he was whining about my country for about 40 years. he died here, never moved to germany. it's not your worst enemy, you bought it, you can sell it...and guess what? there are people who will buy it it's not bound to you, it's not like an arm, you can get rid of it if you really want...but! if you don't want to...please stop with all this anger (toward sgs), you'll live better if you start searching for solutions instead of wasting your energy (and your mental health) on whining...everybody knows sgs problems, there is no need to repeat them.
peace guys!

It's true that i write alot.
I know i bash at people sometimes but its only when they repeat same things over and over. You can easy get the answer on that if they read in the forum.
I only got the iphone to play games on. Android don't have much games that good.
That's bad for sgs is alot better in the hardware then iphone.
Its also true i don't use it so much for phone calls.
I do use it like a mini computer.
I can't say i did like my sgs so much when i did bought it. But after flashing it and tweaking the phone it has been very good.
I also know i have a very good sgs that all things works on.
The gps is almost flawless.
So yes i do like my sgs. But after all thing i have done with it.
The same things all person can do if they read the forums.
The main different between me and many people is that if i got a problem i seek a solution on that. I don't whining in tread after tread about the problem.
You don't learn anything if you whining and don't seek solution on problem you got.
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Ok. Here JP6 Froyo with voodoo lag fix.
DamianGto
- please tell me a solution that fixes the lag in touch wiz application drawer (ca be seen if you have 5-6 pages of apps and slide fast, or pinch to zoom out)
- please provide a solution for fixing the swype lagging input.
- please provide a solution for an efficient memory&cpu wise browser.
If your soulutions is "replace the apps", than no thank you.
Now back on the subject, the available RAM is a real issue. People who browse a lot can observe this. Even a single page (such as pocketnow.com desktop version or any other a little heave website) can make the browser eat so much RAM (more than 140MB) and CPU that makes the phone unstable. How many times my opened apps were closed (even launcher,etc) . Or how many times my browser closed itself as a) foreground application; b) when opening another app such as music player.
So DamianGto please don't make it feel as it's not a real issue. This it is. It ruins the joy of multitasking. You cannot have Skype, or Messenger opened while browsing cos' you get the risk the apps to be vanished because of the free memory
So Samsungs' Froyo is a piece of sh*t that ruins the joy of using the phone.
The RAM is not an issue for people that are using the phone as a media player or for phone calls.

spyrale said:
@oletros, come on, you behave like my grandfather, always talking about how good was staying in germany and how bad italy was...everytime he was whining about my country for about 40 years. he died here, never moved to germany. it's not your worst enemy, you bought it, you can sell it...and guess what? there are people who will buy it it's not bound to you, it's not like an arm, you can get rid of it if you really want...but! if you don't want to...please stop with all this anger (toward sgs), you'll live better if you start searching for solutions instead of wasting your energy (and your mental health) on whining...everybody knows sgs problems, there is no need to repeat them.
peace guys!
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Sorry, I'm not against SGS, I'm tired of people saying that it's perfect and the one to blame is the user.
Ma credo che scriverò un po meno, è meglio per me

DSF said:
Ok. Here JP6 Froyo with voodoo lag fix.
DamianGto
- please tell me a solution that fixes the lag in touch wiz application drawer (ca be seen if you have 5-6 pages of apps and slide fast, or pinch to zoom out)
- please provide a solution for fixing the swype lagging input.
- please provide a solution for an efficient memory&cpu wise browser.
If your soulutions is "replace the apps", than no thank you.
Now back on the subject, the available RAM is a real issue. People who browse a lot can observe this. Even a single page (such as pocketnow.com desktop version or any other a little heave website) can make the browser eat so much RAM (more than 140MB) and CPU that makes the phone unstable. How many times my opened apps were closed (even launcher,etc) . Or how many times my browser closed itself as a) foreground application; b) when opening another app such as music player.
So DamianGto please don't make it feel as it's not a real issue. This it is. It ruins the joy of multitasking. You cannot have Skype, or Messenger opened while browsing cos' you get the risk the apps to be vanished because of the free memory
So Samsungs' Froyo is a piece of sh*t that ruins the joy of using the phone.
The RAM is not an issue for people that are using the phone as a media player or for phone calls.
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this is sadly true...i flashed voodoo doctor rom 2.1 with advanced ext4 lagfix, using launcherpro plus instead of touchwiz...rom is smooth and i have no lag (120 apps), but with 80-100 mb of free ram when i open browser launcherpro get restarted everytime for the lack of free ram (didn't have this problem with jm8), this is more than annoying. and yes, i use autostarts to disable all unnecessary startup programs, even uninstalled autokiller (useles IMHO), reduced homescreen pages from 7 to 5 and removed all widgets that i use less in order to have more free ram. this is so sad for a monster phone like galaxy s...let's hope that devs or samsung find a way to optimize ram management. anyway, there is a ref thread where some smart guys are playing with ram allocation inside kernel...eventually something will come out to fix this **** i am optimistic on this subject, i would have been more worried if the amount of usable ram was the same between eclair and froyo rom. i hope this mean that capable people can play with ram pre-settings to free up more ram without side-effects. i had ram problems with samsung omnia 3 years ago, when i bought htc hd2 i thought i'd never had lack of ram anymore
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Galaxy S - not as expected

People have been saying that the Galaxy S actually come close to be an iPhone killer. Or it already has that I'm not sure of. But after using the SGS for almost a year now, I do feel that it is slow. Much much slower than iPhones.
However, it is okay if they aren't many apps. Everytime my SGS slows down, I would resort to factory reset and it would be okay until I start spamming downloads again.
This is totally contradictory to the iPhone. The lags I experience isn't major though. But it is annoying for sure and comparing to iPhones, I always feel like my phone is somehow underpowered. Anyone has the same experience? By the way, I'm using stock 2.3.4 JVQ.

You are right and wrong.
Sgs is not slow.
Based on your descrioption it appears that your problem only apears after you have installed lot of apps. I would bet this is because a lot of these apps have services running and auto load at startup.
The android platform's implementation of true multitasking does inherently introduce issues like lags when when critical resources like memory is depleted. Sgs only has 512mb ram. So when lots of services run in the background, it slows down and although it tries to free up ram, it can overwhelmed when all those apps tries to restart itself.
Task killers / autostarts app / kernel and tunings can only do so much based on my experience.
Best option is to be more selective with app download and what you really want to keep on the phone.
IPhone doesn't have true multitasking thus don't havr the same issue and appears faster. Of course the UI is GPU accelerated which helps.
So really depends how much you yourself multitask at then of the day and whether you need it. Many don't and thus find iPhone ideal.
Ice cream sandwich will bring gpu acceleration mainstream to android.
Still loving my sgs. I have an ipad2 which I also love but squirm when I wanted it to multitask.
My 2 cents sharing
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^ +1
I started answering OP's question, but I it's pretty much the same thing you said...
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ccrows said:
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I started answering OP's question, but I it's pretty much the same thing you said...
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LOL same here

Personal opinion - I enjoy customizing the phone, flashing and changing things, right now I'm on MIUI Mint Berry Edition 1.10.28 and it's fast, behaves very well and I really can´t complain.
If you don't like customizing and "owning" your phone, that way I believe you would prefer the Iphone because in terms of sock stuff it behaves very well.
Those are different phones, people have different taste you have pros and cons on both sides

vash_stanped said:
Personal opinion - I enjoy customizing the phone, flashing and changing things, right now I'm on MIUI Mint Berry Edition 1.10.28 and it's fast, behaves very well and I really can´t complain.
If you don't like customizing and "owning" your phone, that way I believe you would prefer the Iphone because in terms of sock stuff it behaves very well.
Those are different phones, people have different taste you have pros and cons on both sides
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This man knows his stuff.

Apple clock their processors very high but Samsung don't. That's why many people report their iPod touch or their iPhone getting very hot and then starts smoking. I read on a tech site nearly 10 months ago that a Guy bought a iPod touch and some days later while listening music it started smoking then he went to apple store aand they gave him a new one , this happened to that Guy 4 Times and he got a new i pod touch everytime and had loose his data again and again everytime they gave him a new one. You can call that Guy unlucky but still it happened to him, so apple just wants to get the best out of their devices even though they start burning and you can cook food on them. I use doctorz rom and haven't faced even a single lag on the latest v8.1
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BHuvan goyal said:
Apple clock their processors very high but Samsung don't. That's why many people report their iPod touch or their iPhone getting very hot and then starts smoking. I read on a tech site nearly 10 months ago that a Guy bought a iPod touch and some days later while listening music it started smoking then he went to apple store aand they gave him a new one , this happened to that Guy 4 Times and he got a new i pod touch everytime and had loose his data again and again everytime they gave him a new one. You can call that Guy unlucky but still it happened to him, so apple just wants to get the best out of their devices even though they start burning and you can cook food on them. I use doctorz rom and haven't faced even a single lag on the latest v8.1
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Whoa.
I'm pretty sure Apple underclocks more than overclocks the majority of their devices. I read that the iPhone 4S, for example, was underclocked to 800MHz (from 1000MHz, I'm assuming).

I don't think so it maybe different for iPhone 4s. As its dual core also has more ram.
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BHuvan goyal said:
I don't think so it maybe different for iPhone 4s. As its dual core also has more ram.
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I don't know if Wikipedia is a good enough source for you, but it says so right under the Wikipedia article for Underclocking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underclocking
"Most smartphones and PDAs, such as the Motorola Droid, Palm Pre, and Apple iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4 and iPhone 4s, use the "underclocking" of a more powerful processor, rather than the full clocking of a less powerful processor, to maximize battery life. The designers for such mobile devices often discover that a slower processor gives worse battery life than a more powerful processor at a lower clock rate. They select a processor on the basis of the performance per watt of the processor."
I'm sure you could find more credible sources if you googled it.

smiles.smiley said:
People have been saying that the Galaxy S actually come close to be an iPhone killer. Or it already has that I'm not sure of. But after using the SGS for almost a year now, I do feel that it is slow. Much much slower than iPhones.
However, it is okay if they aren't many apps. Everytime my SGS slows down, I would resort to factory reset and it would be okay until I start spamming downloads again.
This is totally contradictory to the iPhone. The lags I experience isn't major though. But it is annoying for sure and comparing to iPhones, I always feel like my phone is somehow underpowered. Anyone has the same experience? By the way, I'm using stock 2.3.4 JVQ.
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If you want smoothness and no lag, just flash froyo 2.2.1.

disclaimernotice said:
If you want smoothness and no lag, just flash froyo 2.2.1.
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I keep hearing this and i want to try it for myself which froyo rom would you recommend?

I heard that a lot too. But I have friends running on 2.2.1 asked me to help them to get their device to 2.3.3/2.3.4. The reason they gave me was that their phones are much laggier than mine.

IPhone VS Galaxy S

Hey guys, I know its kind of a stupid thing to start a thread on so just spear with me
In 2009 I had an iPhone 3GS. Its was the latest iPhone in 2009 and was super fast. No lags on opening apps, closing apps, multitasking, scrolling screen and stuff like that. It was 99% LAGFREE. Games worked wonderful. I'm a big fan of hacking, so I jailbroke the iPhone and it still remained smooth and fast. For those who don't know, iPhone 3GS has a 779mhz CPU (apple clocked it down to 600mhz to prevent battery drains and other instabilities) and only 256mb ram. Now I have an international version of galaxy S that is clocked to 1.3 GHZ that has a 512 MB of RAM and believe me its slower than the iPhone. I just want to know what is wrong with our phones? Does apple use some magic superpowers on their devices? Opening apps lags, closing apps lags the home screen scrolling for some time, there are frequent crashing due to low RAM, there's lags in browser :S the music player lacks things as filtering of files, it has a worse reception than the iPhone 3gs. GPS is not goood. Even typing is sometimes laggy... the new jellybean made it a lil more like an iPhone due to its 60hz refresh rate and triple buffering but it still lags. Can you guys give me your opinions on this and stuff? Again I'm not trying to complain, I'm just wondering how could this be possible.
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Didn't you ask the same question in general section?

dark_knight35 said:
Didn't you ask the same question in general section?
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Yes I did. Is that bad?
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Helloworld294 said:
Yes I did. Is that bad?
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Asking one time is absolutely enough. We could stop posting in here, your other thread already got some responses.

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Asking one time is absolutely enough. We could stop posting in here, your other thread already got some responses.
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I didn't know, my bad.
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I own itouch 4 and i9000 with miui 2.8.10 and i can say that the SGS not slow as you describe

_RiVeRsIDe_ said:
I own itouch 4 and i9000 with miui 2.8.10 and i can say that the SGS not slow as you describe
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Itouch 4 maybe you have the 8gb one which is clocked to 600mhz and has 256mb ram. & believe me I had the iPhone 3GS in 2009 and I remember how everything was smooth even when I jailbroke it I OCed my iPhone to 800mhz and it became really fast. So idk... but now I know. Android uses CPU to render the UI, but as the new JELLYBEAN came out, its UI is rendered by the GPU which is how its supposed to be. That's why its alot smoother than previous android OS
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The answer is quite simple: Apple produces hardware and software made only for this hardware, Android is only software which has to work on any device. Furthermore there are more specs than RAM size or CPU frequency. If the hardware is specialized for something, you don't need that heavy hardware.
E.g. Playstations: They are optimized for graphic rendering and do that really well without a great amount of Hardware (I think the latest has 256 MB of graphic RAM). But try running anything else (Windows, lol) on them, it will lagg like hell
Same thing with the iPhone.
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The answer is quite simple: Apple produces hardware and software made only for this hardware, Android is only software which has to work on any device. Furthermore there are more specs than RAM size or CPU frequency. If the hardware is specialized for something, you don't need that heavy hardware.
E.g. Playstations: They are optimized for graphic rendering and do that really well without a great amount of Hardware (I think the latest has 256 MB of graphic RAM). But try running anything else (Windows, lol) on them, it will lagg like hell
Same thing with the iPhone.
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If that's the case, then why don't the android community create like groups? You know, Motorola Android group, Samsung Android group, HTC Android group etc. to ensure that the software is running according to the hardware! That'd be easier and cheaper for the companies too, plus will have a great impact on the reliability of the OS
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Helloworld294 said:
Hey guys, I know its kind of a stupid thing to start a thread on so just spear with me
In 2009 I had an iPhone 3GS. Its was the latest iPhone in 2009 and was super fast. No lags on opening apps, closing apps, multitasking, scrolling screen and stuff like that. It was 99% LAGFREE. Games worked wonderful. I'm a big fan of hacking, so I jailbroke the iPhone and it still remained smooth and fast. For those who don't know, iPhone 3GS has a 779mhz CPU (apple clocked it down to 600mhz to prevent battery drains and other instabilities) and only 256mb ram. Now I have an international version of galaxy S that is clocked to 1.3 GHZ that has a 512 MB of RAM and believe me its slower than the iPhone. I just want to know what is wrong with our phones? Does apple use some magic superpowers on their devices? Opening apps lags, closing apps lags the home screen scrolling for some time, there are frequent crashing due to low RAM, there's lags in browser :S the music player lacks things as filtering of files, it has a worse reception than the iPhone 3gs. GPS is not goood. Even typing is sometimes laggy... the new jellybean made it a lil more like an iPhone due to its 60hz refresh rate and triple buffering but it still lags. Can you guys give me your opinions on this and stuff? Again I'm not trying to complain, I'm just wondering how could this be possible.
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OEM ROMs are not that great, you should for sure try some custom ROMs:
(i) ICS: https://www.fixmystuff.in/FMS_Forum...dwich-4-0-4-on-samsung-galaxy-s-gt-i9000.125/
(ii) JB: https://www.fixmystuff.in/FMS_Forum/threads/installing-jelly-bean-4-1-on-galaxy-s-gt-i9000.131/

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OEM ROMs are not that great, you should for sure try some custom ROMs:
(i) ICS: https://www.fixmystuff.in/FMS_Forum...dwich-4-0-4-on-samsung-galaxy-s-gt-i9000.125/
(ii) JB: https://www.fixmystuff.in/FMS_Forum/threads/installing-jelly-bean-4-1-on-galaxy-s-gt-i9000.131/
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My friend let me assure you the last time I had a stock ROM was when I first got this phone and I only had it for two days. then I went to cm7--->darky's rom--->cm9--->slim ics--->TAJB----> now hellybean 12/10 so yeah..
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Galaxy Tab S2 Problems

Hello,
I got the Tab S2 8 inch or WiFi only model - SM-T710 on launch day.
I was really excited for this since I was upgrading from an iPad 4, which felt slow.
However, I was disappointed with many things :
1. Most Apps are not tablet optimized.
2. Asphalt 8 tends to lag, although I never noticed this with my iPad.
3. Only 1GB of the 3GB RAM seems to be available most of the time.
4. The play store won't let me access the US play store from outside the US.
5. Part of the Tablet feels hot after light usage.
Can rooting my device help with the above mentioned problems?
How can I fix these problems? Normally I would have done these myself but since I'm completely new to Android I wanted to ask. I've been using iOS since 5 years and I've never had any problems like these. I'm also a fan of iOS jailbreak, tweaks, etc..
One more doubt : Is there a chance that the Tab S2 will get the Android M update?
Thanks,
Trix

Trix123 said:
Hello,
I got the Tab S2 8 inch or WiFi only model - SM-T710 on launch day.
I was really excited for this since I was upgrading from an iPad 4, which felt slow.
However, I was disappointed with many things :
1. Most Apps are not tablet optimized.
2. Asphalt 8 tends to lag, although I never noticed this with my iPad.
3. Only 1GB of the 3GB RAM seems to be available most of the time.
4. The play store won't let me access the US play store from outside the US.
5. Part of the Tablet feels hot after light usage.
Can rooting my device help with the above mentioned problems?
How can I fix these problems? Normally I would have done these myself but since I'm completely new to Android I wanted to ask. I've been using iOS since 5 years and I've never had any problems like these. I'm also a fan of iOS jailbreak, tweaks, etc..
One more doubt : Is there a chance that the Tab S2 will get the Android M update?
Thanks,
Trix
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1. No issues on my s1
2. Can't help with that, don't play games
3. Perfectly normal on an Android device, Android doesn't waste ram, it uses it to make your device faster.
4. You probably need to load the firmware for your region.
5. Same as the s1

Trix123 said:
Hello,
I got the Tab S2 8 inch or WiFi only model - SM-T710 on launch day.
I was really excited for this since I was upgrading from an iPad 4, which felt slow.
However, I was disappointed with many things :
1. Most Apps are not tablet optimized.
2. Asphalt 8 tends to lag, although I never noticed this with my iPad.
3. Only 1GB of the 3GB RAM seems to be available most of the time.
4. The play store won't let me access the US play store from outside the US.
5. Part of the Tablet feels hot after light usage.
Can rooting my device help with the above mentioned problems?
How can I fix these problems? Normally I would have done these myself but since I'm completely new to Android I wanted to ask. I've been using iOS since 5 years and I've never had any problems like these. I'm also a fan of iOS jailbreak, tweaks, etc..
One more doubt : Is there a chance that the Tab S2 will get the Android M update?
Thanks,
Trix
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1. Unfortunately, that is going to be a common thing with Android. Google built scalable interface based off the resolution, which makes apps run on tablets. As opposed to the iPad, there isn't a scalable interface feature but instead it uses upscaling, which makes apps very large and blurry.
In addition to that, Apple forces the default settings of the app store search to only show iPad only apps. This means, if you didn't update your app to support tablet interfaces manually, you wouldn't show up on the default search. This pretty much *forced* all of the developers to update their apps, if they wanted it to be seen of course.
But, since Android scales all of this natively the developers are lazy and simply do not update their apps for tablet interfaces as much as iOS.
2. The Tab S2 is a very powerful tablet, but if you're comparing it to the Ipad Air 2 there's going to be no comparison on how the iPad is much stronger. The processer on the iPad is more powerful than some computers people have at home. However, Android really is not a gaming platform, it is more of a productivity platform. There are way more games on iOS than Android, so if you're into gaming (on mobile) stick with iOS. Both platforms have hardware that is compeltely overkill than what most of the gaming apps actually require.
3. That honestly is no different than the iPAD, the amount of memory free should not be a concern unless apps are closing more often than you would like. Keep in mind that iOS struggles with memory as well, you can browse the internet and minimize the app and come back and it will reload the entire page, losing the spot you were scrolled to. On Android, it actually remembers the last spot you were at, simply because it has better memory management.
Keep in mind tablets are solid state, with incredibly fast read and write speeds. Ram can actually become irrelvant, because it can simply page the memory to the solid state drive and it would be effectively the same speed as real ram; you could actually get away with running with 1GB of ram easily. It's just that there is a limited amount of read and writes to a solid state drive, so they still use dedicated RAM to extend the lifespan since it is cheaper than solid state drives in general.
4. You can use a VPN to bypass that restriction.
5. Both the Ipad and S2 will got hot if you try to game on it, these devices don't even have fans in them so I don't know what you are expecting.
With that being said, I much prefer Android over IOS. When I use my iPAD, I've pretty much given up searching for an app because it simply did not exist with such restricted permissions on the iOS platform. With Android, I can customize my tablet to my liking, and I really like the keyboard support on it; it is much better than Apple in that regard.
I own both tablets and I use the Android far more, both have their cons and advantages. But for me, I don't like mobile games, I find them too simple. Thats why I love Android because I can emulate all consoles up to PSP/DS ERA.

Brittany_Menton said:
Keep in mind tablets are solid state, with incredibly fast read and write speeds. Ram can actually become irrelvant, because it can simply page the memory to the solid state drive and it would be effectively the same speed as real ram; you could actually get away with running with 1GB of ram easily. It's just that there is a limited amount of read and writes to a solid state drive, so they still use dedicated RAM to extend the lifespan since it is cheaper than solid state drives in general.
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The read/write speeds of ss flash memory is nowhere near as fast as ram.
The Tab s and s2 both have very fast ram.
If manufacturers relied on flash memory for caching and system read/writes with today's fast cpu's the system would bottle neck and crawl.
Fast cpu's need much faster memory to keep up and run smoothly.
Run some benchmarks and you will see the difference.

ashyx said:
The read/write speeds of ss flash memory is nowhere near as fast as ram.
The Tab s and s2 both have very fast ram.
If manufacturers relied on flash memory for caching and system read/writes with today's fast cpu's the system would bottle neck and crawl.
Fast cpu's need much faster memory to keep up and run smoothly.
Run some benchmarks and you will see the difference.
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Yes, there is no question that RAM is much faster, but if you're comparing it to normal usage most people wouldn't see the difference. The Surface Pro 3 64GB edition runs off 2GB of RAM and constantly runs at 90% peak memory and ironically performs just as fast as the 4GB version simply because the solid state has such a high read and write speed.
To a certain extent, all tablets page to the harddrive. As far as I know, there aren't many flagship android models that feature like huge amounts of super speed ram.
When you're comparing it to "much faster", say if you are travelling 500mph and you could go 1200mph, but you already get to your destination in less than a second so for the average user, they probably wouldn't even notice the difference.

I suggest you do more research on it.

ashyx said:
I suggest you do more research on it.
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The average user is not going to notice their device is faster if the device is perfectly capable of loading basic tasks such as websites at reasonable speeds.

Trix123 said:
Hello,
I got the Tab S2 8 inch or WiFi only model - SM-T710 on launch day.
I was really excited for this since I was upgrading from an iPad 4, which felt slow.
However, I was disappointed with many things :
1. Most Apps are not tablet optimized.
2. Asphalt 8 tends to lag, although I never noticed this with my iPad.
3. Only 1GB of the 3GB RAM seems to be available most of the time.
4. The play store won't let me access the US play store from outside the US.
5. Part of the Tablet feels hot after light usage.
Can rooting my device help with the above mentioned problems?
How can I fix these problems? Normally I would have done these myself but since I'm completely new to Android I wanted to ask. I've been using iOS since 5 years and I've never had any problems like these. I'm also a fan of iOS jailbreak, tweaks, etc..
One more doubt : Is there a chance that the Tab S2 will get the Android M update?
Thanks,
Trix
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1) Yup that is android sadly there. Though more are coming out with tablet versions of the software... FINALLY!
2) I haven't noticed that myself on the device as I do play that game as well
3) As long as it free's it up, there is no issues with having ram used. It will dump memory as needed if apps require more. Typically most apps don't require that much ram so no issues.
4) Thats just a country/region issue with the device ID. If rooted you can fix it at least. I travel and when outside the US the store is still US to me.
5) Most devices are like this. Gaming will make it hotter as well, but that goes for Android to Apple as well. Now, this device is cooler than previous ones I've had under heavy gaming and light usage gets a little warm.
As for the new OS, we can assume so, but since its a little ways off it might take time still for it to "Officially" come to the tablets.

I just bought mine yesterday and one feature under the settings was missing... there's no user under the device the options only are:
-sounds and notif
-display
-motion and gestures
-applications
there is no user. also in the notification panel there is no manage user.. can somebody help me plsss.. thanks in advance!

Tab S2 problem
Hey guys, hopefully someone here can point me in the right direction. Looks like i got screwed with my Tab S2. I bought a 9.7" cellular version from someone on Kijiji (Equivalent to Craigslist in Canada) and it was working just fine. I installed some apps and was just playing around with it. About two days later it started freezing and restarting when i would play a game or watch a video. Since then it has gotten progressively worse. I boot it up and 30 seconds to a minute later it turns off on its own. I thought it may be a software issue so i did a hard reset but the problem still persists. I took it into a Samsung repair center and they said that it is a pre-production model (IMEI is 00000000000000) and they cannot help. Any ideas what i can do to repair it. I just hate the idea of having a $400 paper weight.

egogz said:
Hey guys, hopefully someone here can point me in the right direction. Looks like i got screwed with my Tab S2. I bought a 9.7" cellular version from someone on Kijiji (Equivalent to Craigslist in Canada) and it was working just fine. I installed some apps and was just playing around with it. About two days later it started freezing and restarting when i would play a game or watch a video. Since then it has gotten progressively worse. I boot it up and 30 seconds to a minute later it turns off on its own. I thought it may be a software issue so i did a hard reset but the problem still persists. I took it into a Samsung repair center and they said that it is a pre-production model (IMEI is 00000000000000) and they cannot help. Any ideas what i can do to repair it. I just hate the idea of having a $400 paper weight.[/QUOTE
Hi did you buy it brand new (in a sealed box)? Maybe i got a solution for you
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Anyone experienced these probs?
Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 9.7 Problems/Issues
Model#: SM-T815Y
Android Version: 5.0.2 (latest)
1. random hanging 3x-10x/day depends on usage.
problem: hanging that leads to black display screen
solution: soft reset -> press the power button+volume down for atleast 10secs
or until boot up screen shows up.
1a. random hanging usually happens
-when downloading or opening something in the Playstore.
-exploring the settings of the gadget.
NOTE: I noticed that it happens frequently when clicking/using apps
that is related to its Internal Memory.(eg. problem#2)
2. Calculating the Size of the Applications
problem 1: it keeps saying computing even after 30mins of leaving the screen.
solution: unmount sd card>remove sd card>insert sd card.
problem 2: can't clear cache of an application.
solution: need to restart the gadget for it to take effect.
3. Auto Restart then it didn't boot up properly. It only stayed in Samsung Screen.
CONCLUSION: it's not normal to have these kind of problems 3gb of RAM,32gb of internal memory, up to date updates.
: very few widgets are activated, very few downloaded apps installed.
: strongly convinced that the cause of problem is its hardware specifically its internal memory.