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Any way to adjust the slider?

The top part of the slider (the screen) on my kaiser sits just a little too far to the right when in the closed position. When I'm holding it and talking on it, my finger feels the slight ledge and it's kind of annoying. Has anyone found a good way to adjust the closed position of the kaiser?

Anybody? I'll eventually dig into it myself, but it would be nice to know if someone else has already done it so I can skip the experimenting and take apart only what needs to be taken apart.

As i know the two tiny rubber stop the screen going further. You can glue something to the rubber to adjust the position. Check the photo attached. I can't think of anything except that can help.
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Anybody? I'll eventually dig into it myself, but it would be nice to know if someone else has already done it so I can skip the experimenting and take apart only what needs to be taken apart.
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Ah I see...
Thank you for the pictures. That helps. One of the rubber bumpers on mine is somewhat malformed. I may end up disassembling this thing and making some sort of replacement.

I just noticed mine was doing this too, so I returned it today. Lol the next one I got had a very very very tight usb fit. it felt like it was going to rip the usb port out every time I would pull my usb plug off. So I went to return that one! They had only one more left which was the display model, lol. Of course I didn't take that.
So what they did is ordered 3 more to be shipped in this Monday and they are going to let me go over each one and decide which is the best for me to take home!

Just thought I'd update this thread with my story.
I tried to do a warranty exchange with AT&T when I found out that the warranty follows the Tilt, rather than being linked to the person that bought it (I bought mine off of craigslist) but they wouldn't do it. They said for something physical like that it had to be within the first 30 days of when it was first used on their system.
So I decided to fix it myself. I measured the amount of overhang at each end near the slide track using calipers, then looked around for something of the right thickness to add to the rubber bumpers discussed above. I settled on a piece of black, vinyl heat-shrink tubing used for electrical conections. 2 layers of it were enough to correct the overhang at one end and 3 layers at the other. I cut the pieces out making squares about .050" (a little over a millimeter) per side and glued the layers together. I used an exacto knife to cut them and trim after glueing. This was a tiny bit over-sized and they stuck into the tracks so well that I didn't bother glueing them into the phone.
My phone feels so much better in my hand now it's amazing. Before, that little difference made my phone feel super cheap and it was really annoying. Now it feels rigid and well made. =)

atleast you got it fixed. My first tilt was in my back pocket and i sat down on it and had the same thing.. so i gave it to my dad and got another one He hasn't noticed.. (actually i bought him a new one on ebay while he was visiting but it didnt arrive in time so i gave him the one i was using at the time, and about 30 min after i got home after dropping him off at the airport, guess who decides to knock on my door? the UPS guy with the new tilt )

I stepped on my Tilt! do you think its just the LCD? (See pic)

So my tilt fell off my clip while I was out in the yard and before I realized it, I had walked all over it. Everything seems to function but the LCD colors area all jacked up. It is faded (mostly white), funky colored, and hard to see what is going on. Attached is a picture of it. Do you think it is just the LCD? (I can replace that for 70 bucks from blackberry8100parts.com). Or do you think I've killed something else?
Any advice would be fantastic before I waste 70 bucks getting a new LCD.
Thanks,
Alan

I just want to know what kind of clip you had?

knytphal said:
I just want to know what kind of clip you had?
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It was seidio's holster. I really like it but it is def easy to knock the tilt out of it.

If you are willing to open the tilt up to replace a broken LCD then I would go ahead and open it NOW and see if you find other damage. You are looking for anything cracked. There are manuals for the unit in the wiki. If you haven't cracked anything else then your probably ok but the only real test is to buy and LCD and try it out. I assume that slide action of the keyboard tray is as it was before you stepped on it? It it anyway stiff or off? Does it tilt up the same way and with as much ease as before?

Everything seems to slide and tilt up without a problem. There is no looseness, friction, resistance, etc.
I have read through instructions on how to take it apart. Only thing is that I'm going to get a new LCD, I need to use the phone till I get it It is usable, just a bit tricky ;-) I'm a bit nervous taking a part twice. I also don't have the right tools which would come with the LCD.
Guess I'm just going to have to buy the LCD. I can always resell it if need be.
Alan

Maybe try and open it up to see if you have a loose connector because that color thing is weird. Usually you would have a crack on the screen and you would see the crack but instead you seem to be missing some colors which leads me to think that the connector might have become unseated a little.

Any update on this? Something happened to my tilt last night and it's doing the same thing!

Probably just the LCD but it might just be a loose flat multi connector. If there's no warranty then as suggested above you could dismantle just to be sure you do actually need a new LCD. In the worst case scenario you could find that compnents on the d/pad daughter board are damaged. You can only really tell by internal inspection.
Mike

I went ahead and purchased a new LCD from fonlogix figuring I could always keep the LCD as a just in case or even resell it. It was suppose to have come with the t5 torx driver and the case opener but the case opener wasn't in the package. I emailed them and they said they were out and didn't want to hold the shipment. They are suppose to be sending me one though. I would rather not try dismantling without it because I don't want to risk anything (nor do I want to try with my finger nails). I'm hoping to receive the tool very soon so when I do and I get it dismantled, I'll post back.

I think just maybe the ribbon cable that connects the LCD to the mobo has come lose.
I know on my Hermes, this was located under the center buttoin, and when I would press it hard enough it would make a secure connection, and it would display normal color quality, and when I let go it would become like a 2bit color quality

Fixed! I went ahead and replaced the LCD and now it works. I examined all connections as best I could as I went along and didn't find any loose ones so I'm not for sure if it really was a loose connection or a broken LCD. Regardless, I'm not going to take it apart again to find out! I'll keep my old LCD as a backup and if it becomes necessary, test it out
Thanks!
Alan

in the future you could use a program like my mobiler I have attached it to check out your tilt that is what I did when the screen broke you can view your tilt on your pc with out the screen

you should post a video on how easy it is for the tilt to come out of the seidio holster... i was actually thinking about getting it.... but i play a lot of sports so if it would knock out easily then it wouldnt really be good for me.

The problem with the seidio holster is that it is open at the top on the sides. Thus, if you or something hits or puts pressure from the side at the top of the tilt (where the power, ptt, and ok buttons along with the wheel are), it pops out of the case.

Tilt LCD Replacement Video
www.blackberry8100parts.com
now has Tilt LCD Video replacement instructions in High Definition.
check it out

belize2004 said:
www.blackberry8100parts.com
now has Tilt LCD Video replacement instructions in High Definition.
check it out
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Thanks for the link. Did anyone download the plugin? I'm getting tired of all these diffent plugins, they will slow your system down over time.

Moving couch = Broken Tilt

I'm assuming I smashed my At&t tilt or something, there is no cracks on the screen or anything, but the pic below shows the display I get. I'll have the phone for about a year in about 2 weeks. Anyone have an idea as to how much At&t or HTC will charge to fix this or am I better off buying a new phone? Or any ideas as to what could be broken and how it can be fixed? It doesn't allow me to do a hard reset. Thanks

well i don't know if warranty will cover it or not but you are still under your one year warranty so you could try to get a replacement. Its hard to say what could be causing it. You can check out mike channon's articles on disassembling a kaiser.
Good luck.

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I'm assuming I smashed my At&t tilt or something, there is no cracks on the screen or anything, but the pic below shows the display I get. I'll have the phone for about a year in about 2 weeks. Anyone have an idea as to how much At&t or HTC will charge to fix this or am I better off buying a new phone? Or any ideas as to what could be broken and how it can be fixed? It doesn't allow me to do a hard reset. Thanks
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Well to my trained eye, it looks as though you have actually cracked the lcd screen. This damage isnt generally covered by any manufacturers standard warranty. Unless you purchased an extra warranty including accidental damage, I think its up to you to repair yourself unless you want to spend 400USD + for the repair. Taking it apart isnt terribly difficult and I have seen links to lcd screens posted all over for no more than 100USD. Check Ebay also.
http://cgi.ebay.com/LCD-Replacemet-...39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Here is one for 45 USD
Hope this helps ya

pyraxiate said:
Well to my trained eye, it looks as though you have actually cracked the lcd screen. This damage isnt generally covered by any manufacturers standard warranty. Unless you purchased an extra warranty including accidental damage, I think its up to you to repair yourself unless you want to spend 400USD + for the repair. Taking it apart isnt terribly difficult and I have seen links to lcd screens posted all over for no more than 100USD. Check Ebay also.
http://cgi.ebay.com/LCD-Replacemet-...39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Here is one for 45 USD
Hope this helps ya
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I don't see a crack in the screen. Can there still be a crack in it that isn't visible or not noticeable until you take it apart? If that's the case I'll either buy a new screen or just buy a new phone on ebay for 200bux. Also anyone have any recommended sites on how to replace the screen?

This raises a great question for me. i work in a clean room/static sensative environment and repair and calibrate many different types of electronics (mostly signal generators & spectrum analyzers). I was wondering if anyone here has actually attempted to replace a LCD screen with success. And if so, how complicated the process was. I have downloaded the schematical drawings and have found replacement parts for the kaiser online for extremely cheap. i will post the site as soon as i find it again.

I did a screen replacement on a Wizard, and it wasn't that difficult. just make sure you don't break anything while trying to pry small pieces off to get to the screen.

Stu_Can_Sam said:
This raises a great question for me. i work in a clean room/static sensative environment and repair and calibrate many different types of electronics (mostly signal generators & spectrum analyzers). I was wondering if anyone here has actually attempted to replace a LCD screen with success. And if so, how complicated the process was. I have downloaded the schematical drawings and have found replacement parts for the kaiser online for extremely cheap. i will post the site as soon as i find it again.
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ITs easy as hell.
I've done it two times with success.
Its only matter of two connection belts and thats all at all .
Screen replacement is really easy here.

brianlb said:
I don't see a crack in the screen. Can there still be a crack in it that isn't visible or not noticeable until you take it apart? If that's the case I'll either buy a new screen or just buy a new phone on ebay for 200bux. Also anyone have any recommended sites on how to replace the screen?
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Generally you will NOT see a physical crack on the surface. The surface is actually JUST a digitizer ( a separate piece which is built into or ontop of your LCD for input purposes ). The digitizer is basically your touch screen portion of the LCD. What is actually cracked is the thin film below that which contains all of the liquid crystals.
As far as the replacement goes, I believe it is Michael Channon who has the step by step instructions on how to disassemble and replace the LCD. It isnt a hard task from what I can tell. I had taken my hermes ( Tytan ) apart so many times that i could do it in my sleep. Its not a terribly difficult process.
Here is Michaels Guide
Its not in English but its not hard to follow the pictures. He has done a great job at documenting the procedure.
If you are a bit scared to try it yourself, have a geeky friend do it for you ( maybe get him a date to a movie or something lol )
It should only cost you no more than 50$USD to repair ( Minus the bribe for a date lol )
Hope this helps you out !

pyraxiate said:
Generally you will NOT see a physical crack on the surface. The surface is actually JUST a digitizer ( a separate piece which is built into or ontop of your LCD for input purposes ). The digitizer is basically your touch screen portion of the LCD. What is actually cracked is the thin film below that which contains all of the liquid crystals.
As far as the replacement goes, I believe it is Michael Channon who has the step by step instructions on how to disassemble and replace the LCD. It isnt a hard task from what I can tell. I had taken my hermes ( Tytan ) apart so many times that i could do it in my sleep. Its not a terribly difficult process.
Here is Michaels Guide
Its not in English but its not hard to follow the pictures. He has done a great job at documenting the procedure.
If you are a bit scared to try it yourself, have a geeky friend do it for you ( maybe get him a date to a movie or something lol )
It should only cost you no more than 50$USD to repair ( Minus the bribe for a date lol )
Hope this helps you out !
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Thx, I'm gonna give it a shot. I went ahead and bought the screen off ebay from the post by pyraxiate. Worst case I mess it up and buy a new phone of ebay for 150-200, which is what I originally thought I'd have to do, so this at least gives me a chance to save some $$$

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Thx, I'm gonna give it a shot. I went ahead and bought the screen off ebay from the post by pyraxiate. Worst case I mess it up and buy a new phone of ebay for 150-200, which is what I originally thought I'd have to do, so this at least gives me a chance to save some $$$
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Let us know how it goes
Glad I could help

Got it all done, actually my pops did it. Works great, he took it apart just like the Mike Channon pics show, don't know if you had to do all of it or not just to replace the screen, but he did. Only one little annoying thing now that it's back together is that a small part of the black plastic out case hangs out just a tab and isn't flush, which makes it a little annoying when hitting the power/standby button on the right side of the phone. But I can learn to live with that I think. thanks for all the help.

congratulations!
good to hear you've achieved a successful repair!
correct me if i'm wrong...are you saying that the two halves of the phone (screen and keyboard) don't align properly when the keyboard is closed? if so, i remember a thread in this section of the kaiser forums that details (with pictures) how to possibly fix that particular problem!!!
"search and ye shall foundeth it !!!"

brianlb said:
Got it all done, actually my pops did it. Works great, he took it apart just like the Mike Channon pics show, don't know if you had to do all of it or not just to replace the screen, but he did. Only one little annoying thing now that it's back together is that a small part of the black plastic out case hangs out just a tab and isn't flush, which makes it a little annoying when hitting the power/standby button on the right side of the phone. But I can learn to live with that I think. thanks for all the help.
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Im glad i could help Im also glad to hear the phone is up and running again
As was stated before, there is a thread for the case not aligning. I did some quick looking but to no avail. If i come across it ill be sure to post it

I'm not sure if I'm explaining it correctly. But it's basically the outer case, and around the power button it's not flush. Not sure if you can tell from my pics. I tried also doing a search w/no luck. I'm sure there is some specific name or something other than case that it's under.

When i replaced my faceplate i had the same problem. all i did was push it in...kinda hard, and it poped in, or you could use a plasic flathead and pop it back in...

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When i replaced my faceplate i had the same problem. all i did was push it in...kinda hard, and it poped in, or you could use a plasic flathead and pop it back in...
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I tried that, and it doesn't seem to pop in at all.

I think its just like DemoShadow said. I dropped mine once and it seems to be a similar issue. I also just pushed really hard to get it to pop back in. I think its just that clip isnt in place as it should be when it was put back together. If anything, try to take it apart and put it back together

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ITs easy as hell.
I've done it two times with success.
Its only matter of two connection belts and thats all at all .
Screen replacement is really easy here.
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how did you put the keyboard back on????????????????

Can you be more specific?
Hey,
I literally just replaced the screen on my backup Tilt last night. Still got most of it in my head.
What, exactly, do you mean about putting the keyboard back on? Got any pics of where you are now?
This was one of the easiest things I've had to do...asside from it being somewhat tedious. Most of my issues were resolved by MAGNIFICATION! Once I could see what I was doing, there were almost no issues.
I only paid $31.99 on eBay for a screen with free shipping (from USA no less)...less than the $35 I would have had to pay with the insurance through my Provider Dealer...and I didn't have to wait for 3-5 weeks to get it back.
I'd do this for people with broken screens as a service, but I can't guarantee the cost of the screen...it goes up and down too much.
If you can be real descriptive, or have pictures, I'm pretty sure I can help get you back together.
Let me know, I'll keep an eye on this thread...
RAF

here's some dismantling guides
http://www.mikechannon.net/page1.html
you dont have to remove the keyboard to replace the LCD, unless u're talking about the outer keypad, which just sits in its spot

Cracked AT&T Tilt Screen!!! Help!!!

Hi guys. So a couple months back my AT&T Tilt screen cracked. Here's the story.....
One day I was at school and I had my Tilt in my pocket. When I came home I turned it on and the screen was cracked! (Refer to pictures at the bottom of this post).
It appears to have a couple of hair line cracks and a couple other weird ones. The phone still works normally. I've actually inserted my SIM card, turned the phone on, and made a call with it when the screen was cracked! Also if I turn it on the usual things happen. If I slide out the keyboard, it makes the noise that the keyboards open and vice versa. It's just the screen (or so I think). What should I do? I've heard about buying a new screen on eBay for around 50 - 60 dollars, or sending it in to a place like this.
http://www.missionrepair.com/Mission_Repair_AT_T_Tilt_8925_LCD_Screen_Repair_p/222-4037.htm
I just want to fix it and then sell it on eBay. I only used the phone for about 1 week and now it's just been sitting around for 2 months. What should I do?
P.S. Don't forget to look at the pictures below.
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Just depends on how good you are with practical tasks. The Kaiser is not an overly difficult dismantle, but these things are fiddly sometimes. If you have never done this sort of thing before and your not a practical sort of person, then send/take it for repair.
If you are pretty practical with small delicate equipment and have looked at the Service Manual and dismantling guides then replace the LCD.
(If you have not seen the Sevice Manual and guides then - www.mikechannon.net)
Mike

Fix It!!!!!!!!!!!
Its still a usable phone. Find a screen, send it to me and I'll fix it for ya. If you attempt it, be careful as some clips are a pain in the ass to pry off. couls ruin it even more. How much you selling it with the screen cracked like that?

wow thats one hecka cracked screen..what do you carry in your pocket along with the phone, a glock? maybe a nine..grenades???

Actually I carried nothing in my pocket. I must've sat on it or something!

Hey FLiPinoy9oNe6, how much do you charge to repair the Tilt screens?

Hey FLiPinoy9oNe6, how much do you charge to repair an AT&T Tilt screen?

it was a joke lol cause you just said you had it in your pocket and ive read posts where people "mysteriousky" had there screens crack which is impossible unless high pressure has happened which is usually sitting.stepping.dropping.throwing...lol

I cracked my att tilt in the exact same spot and the same cracks formed... weird.

Its an extreamly easy fix, only takes 30mins, order the screen online got mine for like 40 bucks, and get the screw drivers needed. Its simple and kinda hard to mess up just follow the disassembly instructions or video which are all free online.

Raider digitizer glass shattered, anyone know the proper way to install a new one?

Yes, I already broke my phone. Go ahead, grin and chuckle..now that you've gotten it out of your system, anyone want to offer a little guidance? Never disassembled a newer cellphone before. New glass is ordered and has been shipped, just waiting for it to arrive. I'm hoping the process is fairly simple. I do have a specialized set of screwdrivers with all the hard-to-find bits, so that's not a problem ..it even has the tiny blackberry bit.. but from what I can see HTC uses standard micro Philips screws. Yay for standard formats!
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using xda premium

If this phone is anything like hd2 you're gunna want the flat pry tools they sell (search hd2 screen replacement tools). Their not needed but a nice handy thingy to have, other wise you might crack your LCD from flexing it too much.
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I wont grin and chuckle too much, I broke my Atrix after 4 days.

The Vivid screen seems very fragile. 2 of my coworkers have broken theirs within a few weeks of having them. Small drops from waist distance. Its too bad because I have seen the current Samsung models dropped from 6 feet face first and survive
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Yeah, I've cracked mine as well. If you google HTC raider teardown on YouTube.. There's a vid.... Butttt, it's not in English and it's a teardown not a screen replacement tutorial.
It seems as thought HTC has been using reeeeally thin glass in their devices.
Whered you get the glass? It'd be very thoughtful of you to do a tutorial as you do it. I really want to replacement mine but if you remove one on the screws by the battery it voids your warranty

Send it to HTC then? You get a 1 year warranty when you buy the phone.
Honestly, I think Corning had another incident of releasing faulty glass. I've dropped mine numerous times, from pretty high up and I don't have a single scratch on my phone.

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Send it to HTC then? You get a 1 year warranty when you buy the phone.
Honestly, I think Corning had another incident of releasing faulty glass. I've dropped mine numerous times, from pretty high up and I don't have a single scratch on my phone.
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How much is it for them to fix it?

I have no idea. Shoot them an email (not Support Inquiry, youre gonna wanna send it to Repair Inquiry) and they should be able to tell you. Make sure you fill out the S/N box out now, or their just gonna send you an email back asking for it.

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I have no idea. Shoot them an email (not Support Inquiry, youre gonna wanna send it to Repair Inquiry) and they should be able to tell you. Make sure you fill out the S/N box out now, or their just gonna send you an email back asking for it.
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I'll do that right now. Thanks alot
(sorry to hijack the thread lol)

They use a double sided tape that hopefully comes with your replacement screen , I tried to replace a water damaged screen and it really wasn't a fun process
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It didn't fall very far..
Yeah when mine fell I had it in a shirt pocket, bent over to pick something up and it slid out, fell about a foot and a half..directly onto the search button corner on ceramic tile. Crunch. I ordered a new panel from tmart.com .. I got a confirmation email back on the 4th saying its been shipped via usps.. should be here soon. I hope it comes with everything I need - cost me about $50.00 with the shipping and everything. I paid the extra 3 bucks for insurance lol..

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Yeah when mine fell I had it in a shirt pocket, bent over to pick something up and it slid out, fell about a foot and a half..directly onto the search button corner on ceramic tile. Crunch. I ordered a new panel from tmart.com .. I got a confirmation email back on the 4th saying its been shipped via usps.. should be here soon. I hope it comes with everything I need - cost me about $50.00 with the shipping and everything. I paid the extra 3 bucks for insurance lol..
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So, how was the installation process? And did it come with the adhesive? I'm going to buy it from that site as well

And then it was fixed..! FTW!
Ok sorry for the delay getting back to you guys.. been frantically waiting for the screen to clear US customs (ugh) and arrive, which it finally did today. I was able to get my hands on it at about 3 this afternoon, but I wasn't able to actually look at it until about an hour ago..
So.. I open the package, big grin on my face..and the first thing I notice is that the glass is AT&T branded. Funny, considering I'm in Canada and using Rogers..but hey a digitizer by any other name...and all that. So! I open the bag that my "tools" came in.. There are 2 blue plastic tools, one a prying tool and one looked a lot like a guitar pick. Cool. There are also 2 screwdrivers included, and I'm momentarily excited, until I realize they're just tiny torqx bits. The Raider uses TINY philips head screws, so those were useless. I put them into my tiny tool set..for later consideration.
Back to the screen. Looks like it the real deal, so I watch half of the teardown vid on youtube.. As mentioned in an earlier post it isn't an english-language vid so aside from seeing the locations of the screws and the methods of levering off the internal components, there's no exchange of information going on. I would like to mention however that the video kind of glazes over the locations and removal processes for some sensitive connections, so having only experienced laptop repairs personally.. I was in fairly uncomfortable and unfamiliar territory - but I was determined.
I tried several ways at getting the phone down to its base components, and finally succeeded in locating the panel's ribbon connector interface on one of the phone's circuit boards. I had to remove the back of the phone, pull the batt, sim and sd, and pull the 4 main screws that lock the housing down onto the phone.. From there its a matter of levering off the black plastic shell and whats underneath is a whole lot of tech in a very tight space. There were 3 or 4 wires I had to disconnect, about 15 tiny screws in 3 different lengths, and then when all was said and done I had to pry the busted panel off using the supplied blue lever tool (pretty handy, actually.) and then lift the lcd away from the metal housing enough to slide the old connector out and the new one through.. This was a very tricky process - I drink way too much coffee to hold completely steady for long..lol.. Finally got it all through, but by this time I had smudged the inside of both glass surfaces pretty badly and it took some serious mechanical dexterity to hold the surfaces and wipe them down without wrecking any of the flapping, loose circuit boards, screens, etc.. it was a frightening experience.. I won't lie.. I definitely feared the worst possible outcome given my limited experience.
So.. the panel's ribbon cable is inserted, the white clip back down securing it.. I manage after several attempts to remember how to put the puzzle all back together, and after about 45 minutes of messing with it I had a visually complete phone again. I hit power, and miracle of miracles the HTC logo flashes on the screen.. I'm hopeful..
The phone boots up, looks great (aside from a few smudges I missed on the inside..grr) so I start touching the screen and here's where we have the first problem..lol.. its recognizing that I'm touching the screen..but not really accurately.. it seems to be that there are dead areas.. So now I'm thinking I broke something..lol..
Smoke break.
Took it all apart again, forgot to clean the smudges, removed and re-seated all the connections, and about 15 minutes later I had it back together again. I booted it up and waited.
Success!! It sees where I'm touching accurately now - I think the ribbon must have moved while I was putting it back together, I was shifting things a lot as I was trying to figure it all out, so I must have stressed the cable enough to move it slightly in the slot.. that, or I didn't have it all the way in / straight the first time I did it. Either way, it works fine now. I was successful on the 2nd attempt, and now the only difference is that this glass feels..rougher? less smooth? not sure how to describe it.. it feels different, anyway.. and the at&t logo of course. Aside from that, you'd never know it was in pieces an hour ago..lol.
Would I do this again? ..I hope I don't have to. Its not impossible, but man, if you're going to try this BE SUPER CAREFUL!! lol..
edit: and no - it didn't come with the double sided tape, but it seems to be staying without having to replace it.. it wasn't too hard to remove it from the panel, but getting it back on straight took some finesse.. lol.. it comes apart easier now when you're tryingn to disassemble it..but seems to be holding together fine on its own.

travisxcore said:
Send it to HTC then? You get a 1 year warranty when you buy the phone.
Honestly, I think Corning had another incident of releasing faulty glass. I've dropped mine numerous times, from pretty high up and I don't have a single scratch on my phone.
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Corning makes the glass on the Raider/Vivid?
I would suspect it to be more sturdy if its corning, my SGS has been without a screen protector and still does not have any scratches. Yes i know SGS is Gorilla Glass and this is not but i would think it would be stronger.
@ bproulx
You should take it apart again and make a tutorial . I hope i never have to go though what you did. Knock on wood.

lol..might take it apart again..
So..I have smudges on the inside of the glass. Stupid sweaty fingers. Now I'm tempted to pull it apart again ..but not far enough to make a tutorial lol.. besides.. I'm glad I didn't have a camera on me - you guys woulda had a good laugh at me breaking into a sweat trying to pry loose the glass panel the first time..lol. I know it was already broken but (a) I was trying not to cut myself on it and (b) I was also trying not to break the lcd underneath. Which I believe also has smudges on it. Oi.. I guess I'll have to get in there and clean it. Probably not tonight tho. I'm just glad the thing still works - I was scared I was going to bust something. There are a LOT of little things in there. For the record the CPU looks neat. Its smaller than a sim card, a little bigger than a micro sd. Pretty impressive.

bproulx said:
So..I have smudges on the inside of the glass. Stupid sweaty fingers. Now I'm tempted to pull it apart again ..but not far enough to make a tutorial lol.. besides.. I'm glad I didn't have a camera on me - you guys woulda had a good laugh at me breaking into a sweat trying to pry loose the glass panel the first time..lol. I know it was already broken but (a) I was trying not to cut myself on it and (b) I was also trying not to break the lcd underneath. Which I believe also has smudges on it. Oi.. I guess I'll have to get in there and clean it. Probably not tonight tho. I'm just glad the thing still works - I was scared I was going to bust something. There are a LOT of little things in there. For the record the CPU looks neat. Its smaller than a sim card, a little bigger than a micro sd. Pretty impressive.
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I've taken apart laptops (MacBooks at all) and successfully reassembled them so I think I'm up to the job. I'm reaaaally thankful that it says AT&T at the top and not HTC like the pic shows (since I'm on att).. Another question though, did you successfully get the "void" plastic piece back over the screw? Because, I want to keep this phone as "under warranty" as possible

Getting better at taking it apart..lol..
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I've taken apart laptops (MacBooks at all) and successfully reassembled them so I think I'm up to the job. I'm reaaaally thankful that it says AT&T at the top and not HTC like the pic shows (since I'm on att).. Another question though, did you successfully get the "void" plastic piece back over the screw? Because, I want to keep this phone as "under warranty" as possible
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No, the little void sticker on mine was less like a sticker and more like... glue, with paint on it.. lol.. it just flaked apart when I tried to lift it.. but I wasn't concerned with preserving it. Maybe if u use an x-acto or something like that you can lift it intact..? Let me know how you do.
I started getting some random touch input glitches yesterday, and today they got worse.. then my son spilled hot coffee on me and I dropped my phone on the carpet where it of course popped apart..lol..and then when I booted it back up I had some *major* touch glitches.. it was seeing input higher up than the actual contact point, and just acting real buggy..the phone was lagging.. so I took it apart again, completely.. took my sweet time reassembling it this time - I even got out the micro-fibre cloth and cleaned all the glass, and voila.. this time - its like new. I can already tell its put together right this time, which tells me something wasn't quite right before - I'm guessing I didn't get the ribbon cable seated properly before.. there are a lot of tiny, offset contacts on the end of that little cable. Anyway, I guess the moral of the story is screw warranties, and the more times you disassemble your phone the better you get at it.. lol.. it wasn't anywhere near as intimidating this time around. Felt kinda easy, actually. I think I just psyched myself into thinking it would be hard to do the first time around.
I do miss my original glass tho.. I'm thinking about contacting HTC and ordering an oem panel lol.. this one feels.. grippy. The HTC one felt smooth as silk.. I dunno this one kinda feels more like window glass. Meh.. better than a broken ghetto phone. At least now I can whip it out in public without hanging my head in shame and peeking around to see who's looking at my ugly screen. I never even tried HTC directly..I just googled the part and went with the one with good reviews..

OMFG...FML..
Sooo.. I got angry at my Raider today.. started doing the weird touch input glitches again after a battery pull, got frustrated and slammed my phone down on the table in anger...and.... smash. Brand new panel is now ten times as shattered as the old one was. AND...now the phone won't even light up. AND..it looks like I may have cracked the actual LCD this time.. just a small crack at the very bottom - wouldn't even be visible with the shell on the phone.. but.. I'm not very optimistic. I get absolutely nothing on my screen when I boot the phone, all I get is one haptic "bump" and thats it. Nada.
Sooo... looks like I need a new phone. Again.
Lame.
There goes $600.00
....sigh.
Anyone wanna donate an old android device to a guy who's now really really sad and has no phone? LOL.. why did I give away my legend????

Not giving up my phone!! LOL!
Ok so I decided to try my luck at replacing the LCD as well as the busted digitizer that I just re-broke..lol.. back to tmart, and ordered both. I really wish I could have found the whole assembly pre-built, but the only company I found selling both as a single unit had a minimum order of 5 pcs. Out of my price range for repairs, although with my track record maybe it wouldn't have been a bad idea? lol.. anyway, I just bought both parts from tmart and am still waiting for one of them to show up. The good news is I was able to replace the LCD already. It really is just held in there with tape. Like.. there's nothing really holding it all together..you'd think with all those screws and tabs they could have come up with a better way?? Ah well. I have a display again, but until I can get the digitizer and install it I'm without input.. so I can just watch the phone boot and then sit on my lock screen. Or boot into recovery mode and use the vol and power buttons to mess about.. But why..lol. I'll just wait.
I'm just happy that nothing else seems to be affected. I had my alarm going off still with no screen, so that tipped me off that everything else should still be ok. I won't know for 100% certain til I complete the repair, but it looks promising. I picked up a used HTC Magic (ugh) from kijiji for $80 and it came with 3 batteries, 3 chargers, 3 usb cables, 3 leather cases, and a bunch of other crap in threes. Just so I'm not completely without a phone in the meantime. Overall not bad for $80 but man is this phone slow. I installed a custom rom **THANKS XDA!!** on it and it improved the performance and look of the OS a little, but it lags a lot even overclocked when just typing a text.. I can't wait to get my phone back!!
Aside from the screens, this phone is pretty tough. I slammed that sucker down pretty hard that day.. Cmon HTC - why didn't you give us gorilla glass on a $600 LTE phone!?!?!?!? I wish I could find an aftermarket panel that was made from gorilla glass. That would totally rock!

Yeah, i really wish they would've put gorilla glass on it. I used to have the atrix and ive dropped it on tile floor at least 3 times... Nothing. Keys in the same pocket as phone.. No scratches at all.
I didn't want to try my luck, so I just got a replacement vivid