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I have been running a rom with a2sd and it works nice, but i want to try some others out and i don't know if i should dare to flash any rom without a2sd in case of if it screws up my phone or anything.
can someone please tell me if this is harmless or not and if backing up my rom through rom manager/clockwork recovery helps backing up my a2sd and all that?
will i be able to restore everything exactly as it was (including the a2sd) ?
Thanx!
You should backup with Rom manager or nandroid ( if I'm not wrong it saves ext partition too) , then wipe and apply the Rom you want.
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lyka said:
You should backup with Rom manager or nandroid ( if I'm not wrong it saves ext partition too) , then wipe and apply the Rom you want.
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Yea i know how to backup, the only thing that worries me if my phone will be 100% as it was before if i restore it?
Exanimus said:
Yea i know how to backup, the only thing that worries me if my phone will be 100% as it was before if i restore it?
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100% for sure
remember to reformat the sd card to just fat aswell
Thx, but maybe i should use a different SD card in that case, if i reformat the one i use now i'll lose all my apps, backups and everything
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OK, I think I understand nandroid on a basic level. It backs stuff up. Everything. But I'm confused as to how it works. I have CM 6.1 RC1 on my phone right now. I want to try a Sense based ROM but don't want to lose everything. Especially my apps. If I do a nandroid backup before I install the new ROM will the data be compatible with the new ROM? Will the apps work with all their settings intact? Seems to me a different ROM would have weird little things that are incompatible. Seems to me nandroid is more of a way to revert to your previous ROM in case the new one doesn't work out. Does that sound right?
As I understand it, a nandroid back-up is basically a photo copy of your current rom, apps and settings. If you're using ROM manager go into that and choose the "Back up current ROM" choice and it'll back it up and save it to the SD card. If you install a new ROM you'll do a wipe and everything will be gone and then installed with the new ROM. To get it back to the way it was your have your back-up rom saved on the SD card and you can flash that to get it back to the way it was. Does anyone want to double check me on this since I could be wrong?
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Seems to me nandroid is more of a way to revert to your previous ROM in case the new one doesn't work out. Does that sound right?
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That's exactly right. It's a flashable backup of a full ROM. If you want to only backup apps, use titanium backup.
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TheEscapist said:
That's exactly right. It's a flashable backup of a full ROM. If you want to only backup apps, use titanium backup.
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Flashable? So I don't have to install the old ROM first then do the nondroid restore?
benutne said:
Flashable? So I don't have to install the old ROM first then do the nondroid restore?
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A nandroid restore is done through recovery, not the ROM. So you could have a Sense based ROM and nandroid (assuming you have made one and it's on your SD card) to a CM ROM
What you should do is install a ROM, set it up how you like/want it then nandroid right away. You can do that with a few ROMS, test them out, choose your favorite and go with it, always keeping the option to go back to any of them
is it only done through rom manager, or can i get a nandroid backup in cwm recovery?
naranova7 said:
is it only done through rom manager, or can i get a nandroid backup in cwm recovery?
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You can backup in recovery. I never use ROM manager anyway.
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i second that duce rom manager is pretty bad now adays the only thing its good for is installing recovery and fixing permissons but thats about it.
Bierce22 said:
i second that duce rom manager is pretty bad now adays the only thing its good for is installing recovery and fixing permissons but thats about it.
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$su
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#fix_permissions
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ROM manager entirely unnecessary
I want to clear my phone completely back to bare-bones 2.1. I do want to save my last good set up with froyo, so;
1) Is it a good idea to do a complete restore.
2) Is it better to leave the phone as is (leaving b/u in tact) or can I save the last b/u to my computer? If so how (Tibu, ROM Man???). How would I return this file back to the phone if necessary?
I never do any more backing up than Titanium Backup of apps. I know clockwork recovery can make a nandroid backup. It saves it to a folder on the internal sd card (Clockworkmod I think) and you could copy that to your computer. Then copy it back if you want to restore. The feature is there, I assume it works, but I have never personally done it. You could do all this through clockwork recovery, make the back up, and restore later if you want. You can leave the backup on your phone after you go back to stock, odin will not clear it off unless you do a "Master Clear". Then you would just have to reflash clockwork recovery, and you could restore.
I've transferred both tibu and nandroid (rom manager) backups to my pc and then restored from them after a master clear by copying them back to the phone from the pc. With the nandroid backup, you have to reinstall the rom first, and it must be the same rom you backed up.
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Good advice thanks:
quarlow said:
I never do any more backing up than Titanium Backup of apps. I know clockwork recovery can make a nandroid backup. It saves it to a folder on the internal sd card (Clockworkmod I think) and you could copy that to your computer. Then copy it back if you want to restore. The feature is there, I assume it works, but I have never personally done it. You could do all this through clockwork recovery, make the back up, and restore later if you want. You can leave the backup on your phone after you go back to stock, odin will not clear it off unless you do a "Master Clear". Then you would just have to reflash clockwork recovery, and you could restore.
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creepyncrawly said:
I've transferred both tibu and nandroid (rom manager) backups to my pc and then restored from them after a master clear by copying them back to the phone from the pc. With the nandroid backup, you have to reinstall the rom first, and it must be the same rom you backed up
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I was thinking this was the case. My only concern is on the re-install, would I be correct in my asumption, that not only would I need the rom installed but the theme as well?
tomween1 said:
Good advice thanks:...would I be correct in the thought that not only would I need the rom installed but the theme as well?
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Disclaimer: I've not tried it. A nandroid backup restores everything in the rom plus apps, but not the kernel, so it should restore your theme and your apps. In that case you may not even need the tibu.
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Disclaimer: I've not tried it. A nandroid backup restores everything in the rom plus apps, but not the kernel, so it should restore your theme and your apps. In that case you may not even need the tibu.
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Well it's done, we'll see how it goes when I need it
I think the trick is having a working base rom and it being the same as the backup. Id be curious to try restoring a previous version of the same rom. How bad could it get?
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Want to know about backing up roms and restoring them
I want to know wheter we can backup a rom of one mobile and restore it in other mobile. please answer asap.
Abhishek1008 said:
I want to know wheter we can backup a rom of one mobile and restore it in other mobile. please answer asap.
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That may not be a simple question to answer with any certainty. I would not even consider attempting it unless both phone models are exactly the same, you didn't say for sure that this is what you were meaning. If the models are the same: insure they have the same bootloader and modem installed. Then I still would not do it unless the ROM on the second phone is comparable to the ROM you are moving to it. The reason for this caution is that partitioning schemes are not the same on all ROMs, it can even change in a newer version of the same ROM.
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That may not be a simple question to answer with any certainty. I would not even consider attempting it unless both phone models are exactly the same, you didn't say for sure that this is what you were meaning. If the models are the same: insure they have the same bootloader and modem installed. Then I still would not do it unless the ROM on the second phone is comparable to the ROM you are moving to it. The reason for this caution is that partitioning schemes are not the same on all ROMs, it can even change in a newer version of the same ROM.
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This :good:
using CWM? i tried to back up using CWM then i after i change rom, then restore.. stucked up with start up like what happened to me when installing MIUI-MCGv7.6.zip. i think installing MIUI-MCGv7.6.zip is a wrong process,. Using kies is a hell too long.
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nieohl said:
using CWM? i tried to back up using CWM then i after i change rom, then restore.. stucked up with start up like what happened to me when installing MIUI-MCGv7.6.zip. i think installing MIUI-MCGv7.6.zip is a wrong process,. Using kies is a hell too long.
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Re-flashthe kernel.
why dont you use titanium backup.. think its safer...
faria said:
Re-flashthe kernel.
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lol? reflash kernel is a way to back up files so easily? i want to change rom anytime that i want, your answer is not for what i want to know
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why dont you use titanium backup.. think its safer...
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thanks! ill consider that a big help
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lol? reflash kernel is a way to back up files so easily? i want to change rom anytime that i want, your answer is not for what i want to know
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From what you posted , i gather that you where having booloops after a restore,this is common, so the fix most times are to flash the kernel.
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From what you posted , i gather that you where having booloops after a restore,this is common, so the fix most times are to flash the kernel.
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is that boot loop? because it only stucked in that logo. if i tried to charge it, only the loading "little circle" yes, i already know the process on how to fix that . just flash a kernel again,. so restoring may cause bootloop? like how many %?
After you change ROMs you dont restore your CWM back-up.CWM is a back-up just incase something goes wrong.What it does is makes a copy of the ROM settings your phone was on before the flash so if something goes wrong you can get your phone back atleast.To flash a ROM and then restore CWM over top you will end up with your old ROM again.If you only back-up certain things then you are trying to restore certain apps that have settings from your old ROM that probably are not compatable with the new one.Before a flash make a complete CWM back-up just incase something goes wrong but also make one with Titaniun of all your app,contacts and what ever.When all is good and done replace with Titanium and thats it but dont restore your CWM back-up cos your restoring your old ROM again.
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After you change ROMs you dont restore your CWM back-up.CWM is a back-up just incase something goes wrong.What it does is makes a copy of the ROM settings your phone was on before the flash so if something goes wrong you can get your phone back atleast.To flash a ROM and then restore CWM over top you will end up with your old ROM again.If you only back-up certain things then you are trying to restore certain apps that have settings from your old ROM that probably are not compatable with the new one.Before a flash make a complete CWM back-up just incase something goes wrong but also make one with Titaniun of all your app,contacts and what ever.When all is good and done replace with Titanium and thats it but dont restore your CWM back-up cos your restoring your old ROM again.
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aww.. didn't know that, well after that boot loop problem, then i flashed XXJVS 2.3.5 kernel, and the rom was gone, it's just gone back for a new phone but 2.3.5 though. so the titanium back up is the best app to restore game app+additional data, contacts and other apps? because now i installed some gameloft games, and they requires 500mb+ additional data(depends on game) that's too lot to download again, our connection is just not that fast for it. i download the additional data for like 6hrs (612mb).
sweet.No worries.There are 2 titanium apps on the market.A paid and a free one.For what you want id get the free one as i dont think you need the advanced settings the pro version has.Titanium backs up whatever app you want with or without data so in your case you can save your games and data aswell and flash new ROMs and wont loose anything.It also links them back to the market again incase of updates.Need to be rooted thought.Do a CWM back-up just in case.flash your ROM and dont forget dalvik cache and cache partion wipes before rebooting.Root your phone reinstall titanium,load your google account and then reinstall with titanium.It installs all at once so you dont have to do one at a time.Good app to have.If something ever did go wrong with the flash and your phone was left semi-bummed or whatever and you didnt know what to do or couldnt fix it then you boot to recovery and restore your CWM back-up to get your phone back to the way it was before the flash.that is what its there for.Its a saftey net.
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sweet.No worries.There are 2 titanium apps on the market.A paid and a free one.For what you want id get the free one as i dont think you need the advanced settings the pro version has.Titanium backs up whatever app you want with or without data so in your case you can save your games and data aswell and flash new ROMs and wont loose anything.It also links them back to the market again incase of updates.Need to be rooted thought.Do a CWM back-up just in case.flash your ROM and dont forget dalvik cache and cache partion wipes before rebooting.Root your phone reinstall titanium,load your google account and then reinstall with titanium.It installs all at once so you dont have to do one at a time.Good app to have.If something ever did go wrong with the flash and your phone was left semi-bummed or whatever and you didnt know what to do or couldnt fix it then you boot to recovery and restore your CWM back-up to get your phone back to the way it was before the flash.that is what its there for.Its a saftey net.
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thanks! that info really helps. cheers~
can i restore a nandroid backup if i flash some other rom??
app data will also be restored i.e games levels etc..??
Nandroide is a image/snapshot that is stored on your SD card, that you always can flash back to later, after you e.g. have flashed another ROM.
this means i will be back on older rom..for backing data of apps use titanium backup??
There are 2 types of backups.
Nandroid is created using CWM recovery, which is an image file of everything you have got on ur phone. This backup is useful if u flashed another rom and for some reason you want to go back to original/stock rom. This is like recovery disc for ur windows computer, used for to go back to factory settings. Dont ever flash something else on ur phone without creating a nandroid backup. This is also useful in case of warranty repairs.
Second is app and data backup through titanium or such applications. This is more used if you want to backup all the apps u have installed on ur phone, so that for example, i have 200 + apps installed, i flash 3 different roms in 1 week, i dont want to spend time keep installing those apps again and again each time i flash a different rom, i will use titanium to backup all those apps n just restore those apps once i flash a new rom.
Hope this clears any doubts.
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There are 2 types of backups.
Nandroid is created using CWM recovery, which is an image file of everything you have got on ur phone. This backup is useful if u flashed another rom and for some reason you want to go back to original/stock rom. This is like recovery disc for ur windows computer, used for to go back to factory settings. Dont ever flash something else on ur phone without creating a nandroid backup. This is also useful in case of warranty repairs.
Second is app and data backup through titanium or such applications. This is more used if you want to backup all the apps u have installed on ur phone, so that for example, i have 200 + apps installed, i flash 3 different roms in 1 week, i dont want to spend time keep installing those apps again and again each time i flash a different rom, i will use titanium to backup all those apps n just restore those apps once i flash a new rom.
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thanks.got it now.wish i asked it earlier before losing data :-(
mandeep294 said:
thanks.got it now.wish i asked it earlier before losing data :-(
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What do you mean by "before losing data"? Did you do nandroid? If so, you still have everything on you.
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What do you mean by "before losing data"? Did you do nandroid? If so, you still have everything on you.
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no didn't for my first flash
mandeep294 said:
no didn't for my first flash
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Oh oh... Thats not a good news.
Well, just in case, take a look at this thread... it has got a collection of Factory shipped ROMs, may be your version of IS is one of them and so if you want to go Stock, you can probably get back to Stock without not much of hassle.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033922
And also, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1287111
Take a look at this link also, it has got a plenty of information about pretty much everything and also as per OP, its been updated weekly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136463
Besides, I don't think there are much complications if you don't have Nandroid. Nandroid is basically a tool to go back to stock mostly in case of warranty repairs, but if your phone is not crapping out on you, as long as it works, you don't probably need Stock.
Hope you will not run into too many troubles.
Good Luck
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already downloaded d stock one.actually quite easy to get back to stock..
one more q after i restored from nandroid, do i still need to resore apps from titanium??
and do i need to backup apps on sd card as card remains untouched during flash?
mandeep294 said:
already downloaded d stock one.actually quite easy to get back to stock..
one more q after i restored from nandroid, do i still need to resore apps from titanium??
and do i need to backup apps on sd card as card remains untouched during flash?
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After restore from nandroid, you do not need to restore apps from titanium.
It will keep a snapshot of your current rom, hence include your apps. It didn't include radio though, it is separate entity.
Your backup through titanium is save in sd card though.
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There are 2 types of backups.
Nandroid is created using CWM recovery, which is an image file of everything you have got on ur phone. This backup is useful if u flashed another rom and for some reason you want to go back to original/stock rom. This is like recovery disc for ur windows computer, used for to go back to factory settings. Dont ever flash something else on ur phone without creating a nandroid backup. This is also useful in case of warranty repairs.
Second is app and data backup through titanium or such applications. This is more used if you want to backup all the apps u have installed on ur phone, so that for example, i have 200 + apps installed, i flash 3 different roms in 1 week, i dont want to spend time keep installing those apps again and again each time i flash a different rom, i will use titanium to backup all those apps n just restore those apps once i flash a new rom.
Hope this clears any doubts.
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I think this answers my question: I backed up my stock ROM before I S-OFF and rooted so, if I needed to go back to stock ROM for say warrenty issues, I should just be able to restore this backup, rather than have to download and flash a stock RUU? This will put me back to S-ON and unrooted? If so, pretty glad I did that
mandeep294 said:
already downloaded d stock one.actually quite easy to get back to stock..
one more q after i restored from nandroid, do i still need to resore apps from titanium??
and do i need to backup apps on sd card as card remains untouched during flash?
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No, if u restore it from nandroid, you dont have to restore any app data. Thats the benefit of nandroid. Its got everything as is including the background, the way you had it set up.
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I think this answers my question: I backed up my stock ROM before I S-OFF and rooted so, if I needed to go back to stock ROM for say warrenty issues, I should just be able to restore this backup, rather than have to download and flash a stock RUU? This will put me back to S-ON and unrooted? If so, pretty glad I did that
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Wait, how did u manage a backup before s-off?
The steps are,
Get s-off
Get root access
Install clockworkmod or any other recovery program
Boot into recovery
Backup ur current rom - aka nandroid
Enjoy flashing - for some reason if flashing goes bad, you will be safe and can restore and bring back ur phone to life with nandroid
To get back s-on for warranty repair, nandroid wont help. There are a couple of threads which explains how to do so. Check the links i have posted in one of my previous comments.
Good luck.
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Wait, how did u manage a backup before s-off?
The steps are,
Get s-off
Get root access
Install clockworkmod or any other recovery program
Boot into recovery
Backup ur current rom - aka nandroid
Enjoy flashing - for some reason if flashing goes bad, you will be safe and can restore and bring back ur phone to life with nandroid
To get back s-on for warranty repair, nandroid wont help. There are a couple of threads which explains how to do so. Check the links i have posted in one of my previous comments.
Good luck.
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Bloody good point! Getting way too confused with alot of this...need to take a break Don't need to go back to S-ON anyways, but have read around that some people are having problems showing S-ON once they have flashed back to stock RUU.
Thanks for putting me straight
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There are 2 types of backups.
Nandroid is created using CWM recovery, which is an image file of everything you have got on ur phone. This backup is useful if u flashed another rom and for some reason you want to go back to original/stock rom. This is like recovery disc for ur windows computer, used for to go back to factory settings. Dont ever flash something else on ur phone without creating a nandroid backup. This is also useful in case of warranty repairs.
Second is app and data backup through titanium or such applications. This is more used if you want to backup all the apps u have installed on ur phone, so that for example, i have 200 + apps installed, i flash 3 different roms in 1 week, i dont want to spend time keep installing those apps again and again each time i flash a different rom, i will use titanium to backup all those apps n just restore those apps once i flash a new rom.
Hope this clears any doubts.
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Where is the thanks-button?
Just to clarify it more in a question.
Nandroid takes an image of your active OS with all the programs/settings/phonebook/calendar/facebookcontactlinks saved into it. So if you restore that image, your phone is back like nothing happened with all your hours of settings and apps included at point of image taking? Not even a factory reset?
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Where is the thanks-button?
Just to clarify it more in a question.
Nandroid takes an image of your active OS with all the programs/settings/phonebook/calendar/facebookcontactlinks saved into it. So if you restore that image, your phone is back like nothing happened with all your hours of settings and apps included at point of image taking? Not even a factory reset?
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Thanks button is right below my post. Lol.
Anyways, answer to your question is, yes, it does back up everything as you have set on your phone.
It includes things like your wallpaper, your wireless passwords, your images and settings in camera, your games and game progress data, your contacts, your messages, even your emails, your notes... anything and everything you can think of, which is done by you on your phone, nandroid will create an image of everything as of the moment you create a backup.
For example, if you created a backup on 1st, then your flashed another rom, you didn't like the custom rom you flashed, so now you want to go back to the factory rom, you restore your phone from nandroid on the 10th, once the restoration is finished, you will be same as it is as you were on the 1st when you created a backup.
Hope this clears out any of the doubts.
Nandroid Backup is really powerful.
Good Luck.
Cheers!!!
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VaderXI said:
Bloody good point! Getting way too confused with alot of this...need to take a break Don't need to go back to S-ON anyways, but have read around that some people are having problems showing S-ON once they have flashed back to stock RUU.
Thanks for putting me straight
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Thing is, you will never need to go back to S-On until and unless your phone is legitimately broken and you have warranty and needed it fixed.
If everything is running smooth without any hiccups, you are better off with S-Off forever as long as you use your phone.
But, because you are now S-Off, first thing you want to do is to have a nandroid, which is your savior at the end.
So, my 2 cents worth suggestion would be, get S-Off, get root access, install CWM, boot into CWM and create a nandroid. Mount your SD Card, go to /ClockworkMod folder and copy that backup file from your SD Card to somewhere safe, probably on your computer. Once you did this much, do whatever you want to do with your phone. You can flash any ROM you want... Play with it... etc...
Good Luck
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going back to stock dosent do s-on back
creativedevil said:
Thanks button is right below my post. Lol.
Anyways, answer to your question is, yes, it does back up everything as you have set on your phone.
It includes things like your wallpaper, your wireless passwords, your images and settings in camera, your games and game progress data, your contacts, your messages, even your emails, your notes... anything and everything you can think of, which is done by you on your phone, nandroid will create an image of everything as of the moment you create a backup.
For example, if you created a backup on 1st, then your flashed another rom, you didn't like the custom rom you flashed, so now you want to go back to the factory rom, you restore your phone from nandroid on the 10th, once the restoration is finished, you will be same as it is as you were on the 1st when you created a backup.
Hope this clears out any of the doubts.
Nandroid Backup is really powerful.
Good Luck.
Cheers!!!
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Thing is, you will never need to go back to S-On until and unless your phone is legitimately broken and you have warranty and needed it fixed.
If everything is running smooth without any hiccups, you are better off with S-Off forever as long as you use your phone.
But, because you are now S-Off, first thing you want to do is to have a nandroid, which is your savior at the end.
So, my 2 cents worth suggestion would be, get S-Off, get root access, install CWM, boot into CWM and create a nandroid. Mount your SD Card, go to /ClockworkMod folder and copy that backup file from your SD Card to somewhere safe, probably on your computer. Once you did this much, do whatever you want to do with your phone. You can flash any ROM you want... Play with it... etc...
Good Luck
Cheers!!!
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Yup, had all this for a while now, just had that original question about restoring a backup and thinking it would put me back to S-ON, not that I need to or have any intentions to do so.
mandeep294 said:
going back to stock dosent do s-on back
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You got it mate, no it doesn't bring S-ON back. Its a different procedure all together.
Read my other posts in this forum and you will know what I mean.
Cheers!!!