can i get an image of my g1 and restore it on another g1? basically, i'm trying to see if i can switch to a white g1 with the same tweaks that i have on my current black g1
is it possible?
Mr.Jigolo said:
can i get an image of my g1 and restore it on another g1? basically, i'm trying to see if i can switch to a white g1 with the same tweaks that i have on my current black g1
is it possible?
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If you use Cyan's recovery on both G1's, you can do that by making a Nandroid back up, taking it off the first G1's SD card and put it on the other one. But make sure EVERYTHING is the same beforehand, such as same apps installed, Apps2SD, etc. Settings, configurations, layouts, ROM type will be restored with the transfer.
Any questions, let me know :]
thanx. but, when u say "make sure everything is the same beforehand", what does that mean? i'm thinking about buying a white g1, get a nandroid backup copy of my current black g1, and restore on the new white g1. does that work? i guess what i wanna know is whether a nandroid backup will be extracted and restored on another g1 and make it a clone of the original one.
if it's possible, do i need to format the new sd with ext2 beforehand?
You don't need to format your ext2 because nandroid doesn't back that up. I think that luke means that you should have the gmail accounts the same and other stock data that you have to input.
i'm using jf 1.51 with cyanogenmod, which is supposed to format the new sd with ext2
my question is: can i just put a copy of my nandroid backup on the new sd, put it in the new phone and restore it so the new phone will be a clone of the current one? (of course, using the same gmail account)
Mr.Jigolo said:
i'm using jf 1.51 with cyanogenmod, which is supposed to format the new sd with ext2
my question is: can i just put a copy of my nandroid backup on the new sd, put it in the new phone and restore it so the new phone will be a clone of the current one? (of course, using the same gmail account)
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Yes but the new phone must have root And the same radio, spl, etc..
Just set the new G1 up the same. The same way and you should have no problems.
alritewhadeva said:
You don't need to format your ext2 because nandroid doesn't back that up. I think that luke means that you should have the gmail accounts the same and other stock data that you have to input.
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Mr.Jigolo said:
thanx. but, when u say "make sure everything is the same beforehand", what does that mean? i'm thinking about buying a white g1, get a nandroid backup copy of my current black g1, and restore on the new white g1. does that work? i guess what i wanna know is whether a nandroid backup will be extracted and restored on another g1 and make it a clone of the original one.
if it's possible, do i need to format the new sd with ext2 beforehand?
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Gmail accounts don't necessarily have to be the same (although I could be wrong, I think nandroid automatically includes the Gmail with all the sync info), but the most important is to just have all your apps the same. Reason being, when you pull the nandroid backup onto the new phone and install, it'll be looking for apps that aren't there anymore and cause massive anarchy.
Make sure all your core root features are the same as well, same radio, same SPL, same recovery, etc. That's key too and may brick a phone if you don't have that set up right.
Otherwise, it should work splendidly :]
i see. so basically, i have to root the new phone first.right?
1. root the new phone.
2. install the same radio, SPL, and ROM you have on the old phone on the new one.
3. install cyanogen's recovery image on the new phone.
4. nandroid backup your old phone.
5. put your old sd card in your new phone.
6. nandroid restore your new phone.
after that, its just a matter of setting up apps2sd and transferring the contents of your old SD card to your new one. however, keep in mind that only the phone with your sim card in it will work. afaik, you cant dupe sim cards and you cant register two to the same phone line.
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i see. so basically, i have to root the new phone first.right?
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Yup, you'll have to root both phones and makes sure they're set up the same with the same radio and SPL. (ROM isn't necessary, as that will be transferred with the Nandroid backup).
You can check Radio/SPL by holding the camera button when starting up your phone. You can also do this by looking in Settings>About Phone and scrolling to the bottom.
Let me know how it goes!
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ok so tmobile gave me a new g1 to replace my deffective one... i want to restore all my apps... i didnt back up anything but im guessing all my apps are on my sd card. how do i go about that?
what i'm doin now is going through the market history and restoring everything BUT i have apps that are no longer on the market. also i feel like everytime i do it that way i'm adding the same apps over and over again on my sd.
is everything i just typed dumb... lol... or am i on the right track
M3NYFAC3Z said:
ok so tmobile gave me a new g1 to replace my deffective one... i want to restore all my apps... i didnt back up anything but im guessing all my apps are on my sd card. how do i go about that?
what i'm doin now is going through the market history and restoring everything BUT i have apps that are no longer on the market. also i feel like everytime i do it that way i'm adding the same apps over and over again on my sd.
is everything i just typed dumb... lol... or am i on the right track
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If you swap over the SD card from your old phone to your new phone, all yours Apps will be there if you're using a ROM with automatic Apps2SD (such as Cyan's). They should come up in the market too if I'm not mistaken.
I'm getting a new g1 to replace my beater g1, I plan on using the same cyanogen rom and sd for the new phone. Will the apps show up on the phone like before or should I delete them all off the card and redownload them again?
phatmanxxl said:
I'm getting a new g1 to replace my beater g1, I plan on using the same cyanogen rom and sd for the new phone. Will the apps show up on the phone like before or should I delete them all off the card and redownload them again?
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it aint's gots to be so big. and they should show up on the new phone just fine but you may need to delete dalvik-cache off the sdcard for the new phone
So i ordered a new Class 6 SD Card.
Before this i was on the stock 1GB SD card that came with the G1 with an ext2 partition, and running the latest Cyan mod.
Basically i was just wondering what i need to do when my new card comes. I know i need to partition it to FAT32, and then i was gonna do ext3, and a linux swap. Can i just use sdparted script to do this?
And finally i was gonna try a Hero rom now that i have the SD card that is actually capable of running it. I push it with adb and just flash after partitioning, right?
Is there any way of getting my apps back or am i going to have reinstall everything again? I don't REALLY mind doing all over again, but it'd be nice not to have to. And if it's possible, how?
Thanks for any help/clarification...
dear ally,
there is a app that allows you to back up apps..
p.s. i apologize im not a native speaker..of how do u say..umm ur motherlan
Yes.
First re-partition the card using parted from the recovery menu or using the Amon-Ra Recovery. There are instructions for that littered everywhere in the Q&A and the Developer's forum, just use the search.
To use the Hero ROMs you need to flash the Danger SPL unless you plan on using MicroHero with HardSPL. If you want to use any of the new Hero ROMs they will require the Danger SPL and note the bold. Look up the proper instructions for flashing the SPL before actually diving in.
And no. You don't need to re-install everything. Just use switchrom or BART to make a backup as it will also make a backup of your ext partition. After backing up, just restore it after transferring everything from the FAT32 partition of your old sdcard to the new one.
I just checked and i have 1.33.2005 SPL. I believe that's the correct one, right?
I just tried to push Bart to system/sd...i'm pretty sure i did it right but when i try to store my ext it says it can't open the file.
What am i doing wrong?
Check this out
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Check this out
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Thank you very much...that seems to have worked
I really like this recovery image too
No problem man, glad to have helped.
Download Amon_Ra's new recovery image and look for the 3 way partition option...once partioned, do a data wipe, drag and drop your rom of choice in .zip format onto the root of your sd card and rename it to "update"
Backup for Root users works well for restoring your apps. it can be found in the marketplace. I believe there is a donate version and a free version.
Hi, I was wanting to take my SD card from the G1 I use everyday and place it in my other G1. (reason: the other one physically looks better, and I'm thinking of selling one)
So, theoretically... Shouldn't I be able to do a nandroid backup and/or a bart backup via recovery, turn off both phones, place the SD card into the new(other) phone, boot into recovery, do a nandroid/bart restore. (I assume bart correct?) Then wouldn't the sd card work just the same as it did on the other phone?
Has anyone tried this? I couldn't find anything specific on this online. Will this work?
Thanks
ccooluke said:
Hi, I was wanting to take my SD card from the G1 I use everyday and place it in my other G1. (reason: the other one physically looks better, and I'm thinking of selling one)
So, theoretically... Shouldn't I be able to do a nandroid backup and/or a bart backup via recovery, turn off both phones, place the SD card into the new(other) phone, boot into recovery, do a nandroid/bart restore. (I assume bart correct?) Then wouldn't the sd card work just the same as it did on the other phone?
Has anyone tried this? I couldn't find anything specific on this online. Will this work?
Thanks
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Well... yes and no.
If you do a nandroid backup you will notice in the nandroid folder a strange number. (ex HT012345678)
The nandroid restore process verifies your serial number prior to doing the restore process.
Easy workaround might be to simply rename it to the other serial number of the other device. It should work just fine as long as both phones have the same SPL.
Take note however that this method may not be supported and you should make backups of your backups (not to sound redundant) just in case.
update: so I finally tried it.
Here's what I did:
backup everything on my SD card to my computer.
Did a nandroid backup, then a bart backup.
Turned off both phones, put my sim and the sd card in the new phone.
booted into recovery, did a bart restore and everything works great!
Note: the nandroid restore did fail. Bart however, did work.
I didn't try switching the serial number yet, but that most likely could work.
Right now I'm using CM 6.1.1 on my Nexus One. When I flashed CM for the first time I wiped my SD card right after I installed the ROM, so I really don't remember too much about what happened to my apps or anything like that. So, my question is, if I want to install CM 7, can I just wipe my phone with ROM manager right before installing it, and then not wipe my SD card afterwards? Will the apps, pictures, ect., that is on my SD card right now magically appear untouched on CM 7? I guess I'm just not sure how the SD card contents will be affected when flashing ROMs, and I'm not sure if after you flash a new ROM, the ROM can use all of the stuff that's on your SD card just like the ROM you had before did.. Does that kinda make sense? I feel dumb for asking all this. Also, when I save a backup of my ROM, the backup will just be a copy of all of my phone's internal memory and the operating system, right? And when I wipe my phone and install a new ROM, the new ROM just replaces all of my phone's old contents? So if I ever flashed my original ROM again, it'd bring back all of my phone's contents, system memory, operating system, apps installed on the phone, ect?
Thanks for taking the time to read my long, poorly written batch of questions Help would be very very appreciated!
SD card isn't touched when flashing ROMs.
You can restore your backup and it'll be all like it was.
If you use DT A2SD - things start being more complicated.
Yumunum said:
can I just wipe my phone with ROM manager right before installing it, and then not wipe my SD card afterwards?
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Yes, you can leave your SD contents as is, they won't be touched.
Will the apps, pictures, ect., that is on my SD card right now magically appear untouched on CM 7?
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Pictures, Music, Videos etc that are stored on the SD card will remain untouched by flashing a new ROM, however apps are a different story. Basically you've got two main types of Apps on SD cards. The first is froyos implementation which is basically used to free up space on the phone memory but will not survive a wipe or flashing a new ROM. The alternative is Dark Tremors A2SD which uses a dedicated partition on your SD card (Created through recovery) to store apps by tricking the system into thinking the folder on your SD card is actually on internal memory. Once a new ROM is installed over the current (Which obviously must use DT A2SD also) these apps should be available again with their settings etc remaining.
I guess I'm just not sure how the SD card contents will be affected when flashing ROMs, and I'm not sure if after you flash a new ROM, the ROM can use all of the stuff that's on your SD card just like the ROM you had before did
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Again, all data/media remains but apps require A2SD or its variants.
Also, when I save a backup of my ROM, the backup will just be a copy of all of my phone's internal memory and the operating system, right?
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When you backup/nandroid you take a screenshot of sorts of your system. By default I think most recovery images save the boot, system, data and cache partitions when a backup is being made. Certain recoveries offer to backup other partitions such as sd-ext (Where A2SD stores the apps). Backups are designated by folders with a time stamp, I personally rename these to reflect the contents e.g. MM.v.20 tells me this is MicroMods v.20 of his GB ROM. Obviously yours will differ but I find this keeps things organised. Basically think of nandroid as the Android equivalent of Acronis true image or Norton Ghost for the PC. It lets you create any number of backups which will restore your device to the exact state at the moment of backup.
And when I wipe my phone and install a new ROM, the new ROM just replaces all of my phone's old contents?
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A newly flashed ROM will basically restore your device to factory settings but on the new ROM. Once you've signed in to your Google account certain settings and content will be automatically downloaded e.g. Calendar appointments, Contacts. Other settings will not be restored e.g. Display brightness, alarms.
So if I ever flashed my original ROM again, it'd bring back all of my phone's contents, system memory, operating system, apps installed on the phone, ect?
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Nope, again it would return to the factory settings. However you can restore nandroid backups you have made of your original ROM which would return the system exactly to its previous state.
Basically if you're on a stock ROM it won't have A2SD. If you wish to use A2SD from now on then find a ROM which uses it, partition your SD card appropriately (Plenty of guides around) and you'll have minimal problems moving from ROM to ROM. As for Nandroid you'll find that most ROM devs recommend wiping all data from the phone (Not SD card) before flashing their ROM. Otherwise files or settings from other ROMs can cause some undesired effects on your current one.
Good luck and get reading the Nexus wiki, it's very helpful for these types of questions
Note: For some reason I vaguely remember someone noting that Froyos A2SD can be used to move apps to another ROM or at least the base app itself (If not the individual setup/settings) but I can't seem to find any info after a quick Google and it never interested me enough to look into it further. Perhaps someone can clear this up?
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Note: For some reason I vaguely remember someone noting that Froyos A2SD can be used to move apps to another ROM or at least the base app itself (If not the individual setup/settings)
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I dont think thats true.. suppose it's formatted during a wipe.. titanium backup serves the purpose like a charm.. (with all the settings for the apps and the resumes for the games)
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I have a similar question to the OP. I use a 1GB EXT through DT's A2SD. If I wanted to flash a new ROM would the following be my step-checklist?
1 - Nand backup (just in case)
2 - Backup apps with Titanium
3 - wipe system data & cache
4 - flash new rom
5 - restore apps?
I'm just wondering what the procedure is to keep the apps in A2SD on a new flash without re-setting up.
Wiggz said:
I have a similar question to the OP. I use a 1GB EXT through DT's A2SD. If I wanted to flash a new ROM would the following be my step-checklist?
1 - Nand backup (just in case)
2 - Backup apps with Titanium
3 - wipe system data & cache
4 - flash new rom
5 - restore apps?
I'm just wondering what the procedure is to keep the apps in A2SD on a new flash without re-setting up.
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yeah that would be fine..
btw 1: if you upgrading a cm nightly, you need not wipe system n cache..
2: if you do a titanium backup before, then you can finish all the steps in the recovery in one go..
n I dint quite get what you are asking. but from what I know, apps 2 sd folder (ie android.secure) is erased in a wipe.. that isnt changing
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shreyas - thanks for your help.
I understand the A2SD (EXT) partition onthe sd will be wiped, but I'm assuming I would have to do nothing to get the new rom to see the ext and use it?
That's really my question. Would recovering my apps from Titanium push them back on the A2SD location or would I need to install A2SD again?
i don't think so..
I suppose that the pro version must support the direct a2sd.. but give it a try.. if it dosent work then you have do manually..
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Hello,
I have an issue with the screen that is detaching more and more. So I plan to send it back to Sony SAV.
My phone is rooted and I really want to keep the firmware I am using right now (I do not want to move to Android 5).
I know how to copy my data, applications and so one. But I want a full backup to perform a full restore once it will be exchanged. Is there any way to do a full back-up with the firmware also?
Thanks,
Javier
Via twrp cwm and so on its easy to do that. (nandroid) But dont restore the ta partition if u get an new z3c.
Thanks, I will check that!
chikess said:
Via twrp cwm and so on its easy to do that. (nandroid) But dont restore the ta partition if u get an new z3c.
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balles said:
Hello,
I have an issue with the screen that is detaching more and more. So I plan to send it back to Sony SAV.
My phone is rooted and I really want to keep the firmware I am using right now (I do not want to move to Android 5).
I know how to copy my data, applications and so one. But I want a full backup to perform a full restore once it will be exchanged. Is there any way to do a full back-up with the firmware also?
Thanks,
Javier
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What do you use to back up your device now? I mean, when you rooted it, custom recoveries such as TWRP or CWM needed to be used to even flash the rooted firmware. Just use the same recovery you always use to create a full back-up and save the back-up to an SD card so you can restore from it on the new phone.
The backup I was referring to was only at application level, by means of an application backup such as MyBackup Pro.
If I correctly understand, I need to
On the old phone
Perform a backup using CWM
Copy the internal SD contents on a PC or an external SD card
On the new phone
root the new phone (that will come I guess with Android 5). No issue due to new Android version
Copy the old internal SD contents the internal SD card of the new phone
Restore the CWM backup of the old phone
With this procedure, the new phone will be at the exact same status as the old one.
Right or is there something missing?
PuffDaddy_d said:
What do you use to back up your device now? I mean, when you rooted it, custom recoveries such as TWRP or CWM needed to be used to even flash the rooted firmware. Just use the same recovery you always use to create a full back-up and save the back-up to an SD card so you can restore from it on the new phone.
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balles said:
The backup I was referring to was only at application level, by means of an application backup such as MyBackup Pro.
If I correctly understand, I need to
On the old phone
Perform a backup using CWM
Copy the internal SD contents on a PC or an external SD card
On the new phone
root the new phone (that will come I guess with Android 5). No issue due to new Android version
Copy the old internal SD contents the internal SD card of the new phone
Restore the CWM backup of the old phone
With this procedure, the new phone will be at the exact same status as the old one.
Right or is there something missing?
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Yup that's the method. Good luck