Is there any way to configure the UMTS Band settings on the Trinity / D810? I ask as the ROM provides the following options:
Network Type:
Auto
GSM
WCDMA
GSM/UMTS Band:
Auto
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
Now ... for the HSDPA Network in Australia for Telstra (Next G), I need the phone to work on the UMTS(850) Band. However, by selecting the option above where the only UMTS(850) is available means that the alternate 3G Band (not HSDPA) of UMTS(2100) is not available, and the GSM Bands in the same selection are not valid for the Australian market.
Couple of queries, and I hope there are ways of configuring the device to achieve this (without getting a new ROM to support it):
When a Band selection is made, what is the order which the device uses the connections? ... i.e. if the selection was GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850), will it look for UMTS or GSM first? If UMTS, which band - 1900 or 850?
When Auto is selected, I am guessing it uses each option in the list until it finds a valid network? This would mean that for Australia, if left on Auto, you would never select HSDPA for Telstra as it would find the 3G UMTS(2100) network first (non-HSDPA).
My assumptions are that if left on Auto, it looks based on list order (which is the network order in the registry). So, for Australia, I need a setting like the following:
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(850+2100)
Is it possible to create this Band Selection without a new ROM?
AJB said:
Is there any way to configure the UMTS Band settings on the Trinity / D810? I ask as the ROM provides the following options:
Network Type:
Auto
GSM
WCDMA
GSM/UMTS Band:
Auto
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
Now ... for the HSDPA Network in Australia for Telstra (Next G), I need the phone to work on the UMTS(850) Band. However, by selecting the option above where the only UMTS(850) is available means that the alternate 3G Band (not HSDPA) of UMTS(2100) is not available, and the GSM Bands in the same selection are not valid for the Australian market.
Couple of queries, and I hope there are ways of configuring the device to achieve this (without getting a new ROM to support it):
When a Band selection is made, what is the order which the device uses the connections? ... i.e. if the selection was GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850), will it look for UMTS or GSM first? If UMTS, which band - 1900 or 850?
When Auto is selected, I am guessing it uses each option in the list until it finds a valid network? This would mean that for Australia, if left on Auto, you would never select HSDPA for Telstra as it would find the 3G UMTS(2100) network first (non-HSDPA).
My assumptions are that if left on Auto, it looks based on list order (which is the network order in the registry). So, for Australia, I need a setting like the following:
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(850+2100)
Is it possible to create this Band Selection without a new ROM?
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The new Dopod ROM has the same band selections as yours does. I tried changing the selections to manual with bad results. I just leave it on auto now.
Matterhorn said:
The new Dopod ROM has the same band selections as yours does. I tried changing the selections to manual with bad results. I just leave it on auto now.
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I could do that to, but it would mean I don't get HSDPA. I have verified this. The only way to get HSDPA is to set the Band selection to the one with UMTS(850) in it ... this is not ideal, and that's why I posed the question to this forum.
No one??
I am guessing that no one has ever come across this, or needed to do it?
Registry Patch
This Registry patch works for the Hermes. It might work on the Trinity.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\PhoneSetting\BandType]
"ItemCount"=dword:00000006
"ItemName1"="Auto"
"ItemName2"="GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)"
"ItemName3"="GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)"
"ItemName4"="UMTS(2100+800)"
"ItemName5"="GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100+850)"
"ItemName6"="GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(850)"
"ItemValue1"=dword:00000000
"ItemValue2"=dword:00000001
"ItemValue3"=dword:00000002
"ItemValue4"=dword:00000003
"ItemValue5"=dword:00000004
"ItemValue6"=dword:00000005
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\UMTS\BandSelection]
"Band"=dword:00000005
You really just need to add ItemName5 and 6, and ItemValue5 and 6, and change the ItemCount from 4 to 6 (as you added two options) using your favorite Registry Editor.
Do a soft reboot of the phone. Now you can select the NextG option GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(850)
3G connection
I drive around the Perth Metro area a lot for work and am finding that if left on Auto the connection is lost quite often mid call. How have you found the 810's management of the bands? And the auto fallback? Is there a way to set the fallback threshold so it drops back if under 2 bar signal strength? At the moment it sits on 1 bar strength and drops out mid call.
Hi All,
I've got a standard HTC branded kaiser.
Where I live I've got access to a 900/1800MHz GSM network (for backup) as well as 2 seperate UMTS networks on 2100 & 850MHz.
I'd really like the phone to use the networks in this order:
850MHz UMTS (Primary carrier)
2100MHz UMTS (Roaming agreement)
900/1800 GSM (Primary carrier)
Unfortunately I can't make it happen ....
* If the phone is set to auto (GSM/UMTS) and also auto band, it locks onto the 2100 UMTS and stays there. UMTS>GSM. This is the case even if I deselect the roaming carrier from network preferences.
* If I lock the phone band to GSM(900/1800)+UMTS(2100) it behaves the same as above.
* If I lock the phone band to GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850) it then will lock onto the correct 1st choice, but it won't fallback to GSM
So how can I make this work? Ideally I need a band option like GSM(900/1800)+UMTS(850/2100), but it just isn't gonna happen.
Even though this is a quad band GSM and triple band UMTS phone I'm forced to choose a combination that isn't optimal?
Any ideas?
Could'nt find it with search, so here is my problem:
- i get free 20mb 3g-traffic each month free
- my phone connects not only with umts but also with GSM/GRPS
how do you disable the use of gsm for a data connection?
thx for an answer
*bump*
nobody got a clue?
You seem to be able to set it to UMTS only - I've just tried it.
Obviously if you lose the 3G / HSDPA signal, you won't get any calls / texts coming through as it won't automatically switch to GPRS.
Menu >> Settings >> Personal tab >> Phone >> Band tab >> Select your GSM / UMTS band (choose one that is your UMTS band only, not UMTS & GSM).
SV
hm...
that should suffice as a temporary solution. i do not want to get calls with my 3g-only rate anyway. even if i think that it's quite complicated to switch between my sim cards with all the extra settings.
so: thanks!!
ok i tried to do that but it didn't work
i only have 2 options:
UMTS(900+2100)+GSM(900+1800)
UMTS(850+1900)+GMS(850+1900)
GSM(900+1800) is common in germany. dunno the umts band :-/
Hi,
I'm very interested to buy the One. At the moment I using a iPhone 5 with a german T-Mobile contract. It's not possible to switch off LTE and 3G to use only Edge (saves much battery!). I can disable LTE with a modded IPCC File but this also disables 3G - so I can only use Edge. This is a disappointing situation.
Do I have the free choice on the HTC One which speed I want to use? Only Edge for most of the time, 3G or LTE on demand while surfing on the internet?
Thanks for answering,
Regards
Sebastian
Hello
you can choose between only GSM, only WCDMA, GSM WCDMA automatic and GSM WCDMA LTE automatic on the One.
Thanks, hopefully the black One is available soon in retail Stores
No problems
I´ve read that the One ist on Media Markt available on the 15.04.2013 :cyclops:
Choosing "GSM" in the mobile network settings will force the phone to use either GPRS or EDGE if they're available.
I am on AT&T and the reason I bought this phone was because, according to the specs in the FCC site, it has LTE Band 17 (which is the most common one for AT&T).
I was only getting 3G (HSPA+) speeds. I followed the following procedure to enable LTE for data and still be able to place/receive phone calls:
Do this at your own risk
Open the dial pad
Type: *#0011# to enter Service Mode (Be very careful with what you do here)
Note: You need to be rooted for this to work
Once in Service Mode, do the following:
Tap the menu button and tap Back
Tap the menu button again and select "Key Input" and enter an upper case Q and press OK
Tap the menu button again and select "Key Input" and enter 4 zeroes (0000) and press OK
Wait from 5 to 15 seconds. You'll see the Main Menu
Choose option [2]: UE SETTING & INFO
Choose option [1]: SETTING
Choose option [1]: PROTOCOL
Choose option [2]: NAS
Choose option [1]: NETWORK CONTROL
Choose option [4]: BAND SELECTION
Choose option [4]: LTE Band Preference
Choose option [7]: LTE ALL (Or you can choose band 17 instead)
Tap the menu button and choose Back (Don't press the back key)
Tap again the menu button and choose Back
Choose option [6]: LTE/WCDMA Mode Only
Press the back key to exit
And that's it: You now have LTE and calls if using AT&T. This won't work with TMobile.
If you reboot your phone, you may need to repeat the steps.
miscom said:
I am on AT&T and the reason I bought this phone is because, according to the specs in the FCC site, it has LTE Band 17 (which is the most common one for AT&T).
I was only getting 3G (HSPA+) speeds. I followed the following procedure to enable LTE for data and still be able to place/receive phone calls:
Do this at your own risk
Open the dial pad
Type: *#0011# to enter Service Mode (Be very careful with what you do here)
Note: You need to be rooted for this to work
Once in Service Mode, do the following:
Tap the menu button and tap Back
Tap the menu button again and select "Key Input" and enter an upper case Q and press OK
Tap the menu button again and select "Key Input" and enter 4 zeroes (0000) and press OK
Wait from 5 to 15 seconds. You'll see the Main Menu
Choose option [2]: UE SETTING & INFO
Choose option [1]: SETTING
Choose option [1]: PROTOCOL
Choose option [2]: NAS
Choose option [1]: NETWORK CONTROL
Choose option [4]: BAND SELECTION
Choose option [4]: LTE Band Preference
Choose option [7]: LTE ALL (Or you can choose band 17 instead)
Tap the menu button and choose Back (Don't press the back key)
Tap again the menu button and choose Back
Choose option [6]: LTE/WCDMA Mode Only
Press the back key to exit
And that's it: You now have LTE and calls if using AT&T. This won't work with TMobile.
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I am confused. I am also on ATT - I bought this phone back when it first came out. All I did was add the ATT APN and then I was able to get LTE just fine. I didn't have to do anything like you described.
So - are you saying you added your APN and still had to go thru all of those steps?
mocsab said:
I am confused. I am also on ATT - I bought this phone back when it first came out. All I did was add the ATT APN and then I was able to get LTE just fine. I didn't have to do anything like you described.
So - are you saying you added your APN and still had to go thru all of those steps?
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Yes, that's exactly what happened to me. For some reason B17 was not enabled in my phone.
miscom said:
Yes, that's exactly what happened to me. For some reason B17 was not enabled in my phone.
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That brings up another question - If I am getting LTE now - does that mean I am already getting data via that Band you mentioned ? Or could it be that I am getting it from some other band? (forgive these noobie type questions - I really don't know that much about this)
and is there a difference between the speeed you can get from any of the different bands?
mocsab said:
That brings up another question - If I am getting LTE now - does that mean I am already getting data via that Band you mentioned ? Or could it be that I am getting it from some other band? (forgive these noobie type questions - I really don't know that much about this)
and is there a difference between the speeed you can get from any of the different bands?
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Try this free app to show you what LTE band you are using
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery
Most likely if you are on AT&T is band 17.
The higher the frequency the most difficult it is for the signal to travel farther or into building. You'll better results if you are receiving on 700MHz than 2600MHz, but that is determined by your carrier (although there are ways to manually change it)
Yup my AT&T LTE bands weren't activated as well. Had to go through these steps and they worked perfectly!
miscom said:
Try this free app to show you what LTE band you are using
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery
Most likely if you are on AT&T is band 17.
The higher the frequency the most difficult it is for the signal to travel farther or into building. You'll better results if you are receiving on 700MHz than 2600MHz, but that is determined by your carrier (although there are ways to manually change it)
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Thanks for the informatino - I had no idea that some phones had problems connecting to LTE - I personally never have had that issue with any of the TMOBILE PHONES i have used on ATT (Note 3 and my S5) but its good to know this in case it ever happens with a future phone.
anyway, for grins and gigglesI got the app suggested - but I can't see in the app where it says what band I am using?
I attached a screen shot - can you tell me what I should be looking for?
mocsab said:
Thanks for the informatino - I had no idea that some phones had problems connecting to LTE - I personally never have had that issue with any of the TMOBILE PHONES i have used on ATT (Note 3 and my S5) but its good to know this in case it ever happens with a future phone.
anyway, for grins and gigglesI got the app suggested - but I can't see in the app where it says what band I am using?
I attached a screen shot - can you tell me what I should be looking for?
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Sorry, I gave you the wrong information. Just go into the service mode menu. It's there on the first page.
From the dial pad: *#0011#
miscom said:
Sorry, I gave you the wrong information. Just go into the service mode menu. It's there on the first page.
From the dial pad: *#0011#
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Thanks - Got it - and you were right, Band 17
Hey Miscom. Thank you for the post. I am considering this phone. I am wondering if this phone is fully compatible with all LTE At&t bands? I copied the At&t band info from a post on another forum and pasted it below. I assume that it is correct.
At&t LTE Bands
4G HSPA and HSPA+ use 850Mhz(Band 5) and 1900Mhz(Band 2) bands but it all depends on area if they own a license. LTE uses Band 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz), Band 4(1700/2100Mhz) currently.
It appears that Band 4(1700/2100) is missing from the SM-G906S specs.
SM-G906S LTE Bands (Source: http://28mobile.com/Product/View/68834/samsung-galaxy-s5-prime-lte-a-sm-g906s-k-32gb-black-4g/)
Infrastructure 4G LTE
2G GSM GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
3G UMTS B1 (2100), B2 (1900), B5 (850)
4G LTE B1 (2100), B3 (1800), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B17 (700)
jinksd said:
Hey Miscom. Thank you for the post. I am considering this phone. I am wondering if this phone is fully compatible with all LTE At&t bands? I copied the At&t band info from a post on another forum and pasted it below. I assume that it is correct.
At&t LTE Bands
4G HSPA and HSPA+ use 850Mhz(Band 5) and 1900Mhz(Band 2) bands but it all depends on area if they own a license. LTE uses Band 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz), Band 4(1700/2100Mhz) currently.
It appears that Band 4(1700/2100) is missing from the SM-G906S specs.
SM-G906S LTE Bands (Source: http://28mobile.com/Product/View/68834/samsung-galaxy-s5-prime-lte-a-sm-g906s-k-32gb-black-4g/)
Infrastructure 4G LTE
2G GSM GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
3G UMTS B1 (2100), B2 (1900), B5 (850)
4G LTE B1 (2100), B3 (1800), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B17 (700)
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You are correct: Band 4 is missing. For AT&T only band 17 is available in the G906S.
Band 17 is the main LTE band for AT&T. I traveled by car a few days ago from Tennessee to New York and except for a few places, I got LTE most of the time. Never saw E, only 3G (AT&T's 4G) and LTE.
Same here I have LTE pretty much 99% everywhere I go. I'm on AT&T as well.
That is good news. Do you guys know if there will be ROM support by cyanogen for this phone?
Also. Where did you guys get yours?
jinksd said:
That is good news. Do you guys know if there will be ROM support by cyanogen for this phone?
Also. Where did you guys get yours?
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I bought mine from 28mobile.com
Hi all,
Considering buying the G906S from 28Mobile,
I am on T-Mobile though, Is there any way to make the LTE work?
No
neilspenta said:
Hi all,
Considering buying the G906S from 28Mobile,
I am on T-Mobile though, Is there any way to make the LTE work?
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chungdae said:
No
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Thanks for the prompt reply.
I know for a fact that the G906S and K do not work with T-Mobile. I don't know the band's for L, it might be compatible.
neilspenta said:
Thanks for the prompt reply.
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mocsab said:
I am confused. I am also on ATT - I bought this phone back when it first came out. All I did was add the ATT APN and then I was able to get LTE just fine. I didn't have to do anything like you described.
So - are you saying you added your APN and still had to go thru all of those steps?
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What APN did you use?
I found this on AT&T official website,
Your device will need to work on one of these GSM network frequencies:
AT&T Multi-band GSM
UMTS, LTE or unlocked Multi-band GSM - 850/1900 MHz
UMTS - 850/1900 MHz
LTE Band 2 - 1900 MHz
LTE Band 4 - 1700 MHz
LTE Band 5 - 800 MHz
LTE Band 17 - 700 MHz