My very bright but technologically infantly 9 year old girl made me give her a good talking to today. She has seen several of the new iphone commercials...
Cut and paste, now on the iphone 3gs
voice command now on the iphone 3gs
"can your phone do that?"
can my phone do that...can my phone do that..it's as if they were reinventing the wheel!!!
Give Jobs a pat on the head, he just tied his ishoelaces!!!
Sad to say that Apple thinks most people are I-diots!!
(okay, okay...looked funnier on my paper napkin)
telegraph0000 said:
My very bright but technologically infantly 9 year old girl made me give her a good talking to today. She has seen several of the new iphone commercials...
Cut and paste, now on the iphone 3gs
voice command now on the iphone 3gs
"can your phone do that?"
can my phone do that...can my phone do that..it's as if they were reinventing the wheel!!!
Give Jobs a pat on the head, he just tied his ishoelaces!!!
Sad to say that Apple thinks most people are I-diots!!
(okay, okay...looked funnier on my paper napkin)
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Well people do know that iPhone wasn't capable of that. And "real life" not internet people always talks about the flaws (especially if they have one).
Not everyone is an idiot. Some people do know that the iPhone lacks some capabilities but they just dont give a crap.
If people actually wanted the features of Windows Mobile, for example, they would flock our forums even more.
That's just the way the world works. Not everyone is a techie. Not everyone gives a crap about the other OS.
Of course there are a few people who are just plain stupid. There was this one guy who kept on saying that the iPhone had a heat sensitive Touch Screen.
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There was this one guy who kept on saying that the iPhone had a heat sensitive Touch Screen.
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ok... not that far away from what it is, but reading this I just imagined him with a pocket lighter demonstrating it
Most people don't even have an email address....
derekwilkinson said:
Most people don't even have an email address....
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Agreed, but most people do have phones...yeah, the majority may think that I have an iPhone, but it's because of their sinister marketing campaign. But for those here...that have seen the light, don't thise commercials just make you nodd your head nd roll your eyes?
Oh, yeah, HDwobble is useless but extreme sophomoric "Porky's" fun.
you know apple invented the phone.
josefcrist said:
you know apple invented the phone.
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Lord I hope you failed history...
Who invented the telephone?
Alexander Graham Bell was born on March 3, 1847 in Edinburgh, Scotland, the son of Alexander Melville Bell and Eliza Grace Symonds, daughter of a surgeon in the Royal Navy. His mother, who was a portrait painter and accomplished musician, began to lose her hearing when Graham (a name that was used by his family and close friends) was twelve. His father had a world wide reputation as a teacher and author of textbooks on correct speech, and as the inventor of "visible speech," a code of symbols which indicated the position and action of the throat, tongue and lips in uttering various sounds. Melville’s Visible Speech helped to guide the deaf in learning to speak and Graham became an expert in its use for that purpose.
Graham and his two brothers assisted Melville in public demonstrations in Visible Speech, beginning in 1862. At the same time he enrolled as a student-teacher at Weston House, a boys’ school near Edinburgh where he taught music and speech in exchange for being a student of other subjects. A year later he became a full-time teacher at the University of Edinburgh while studying at the University of London.
In 1866 Bell carried out a series of experiments to determine how vowel sounds are produced. He combined the notes of electrically driven tuning forks to make vowel sounds which gave him the idea of "telegraphing" speech. In 1870 his brothers died of tuberculosis and his family moved to Brantford, Ontario, Canada to a healthier climate. A year later Graham moved to Boston where he opened a school for teachers of the deaf and in 1872 became a professor at Boston University.
Bell’s interest in electricity continued and he attempted to send several telegraph messages over a single wire at one time. Lacking the time and skill to make the equipment for these experiments he enlisted the help of Thomas A. Watson from a nearby electrical shop. The two became fast friends and worked together on the tedious experimentation to produce sounds over the "harmonic telegraph." It was on June 2, 1875, while Bell was at one end of the line and Watson worked on the reeds of the telegraph in another room that he heard the sound of a plucked reed coming to him over the wire.
The next day, after much tinkering, the instrument transmitted the sound of Bell’s voice to Watson. The instrument transmitted recognizable voice sound, not words. Bell and Watson experimented all summer and in September, 1875, Bell began to write the specifications for his first telephone patent.
The patent was issued on March 7, 1876. The telephone carried its first intelligible sentence three days later in the rented top floor of a Boston boarding house at 109 Court Street, Boston.
Apple:
Established in Cupertino, California on April 1, 1976 and incorporated January 3, 1977,[5] the company was called Apple Computer Inc. for its first 30 years, but dropped the word "Computer" on January 9, 2007[6] to reflect the company's ongoing expansion into the consumer electronics market in addition to its traditional focus on personal computers.
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i do beleive you just took the bait
hummm
venelar said:
i do beleive you just took the bait
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josefcrist said:
you know apple invented the phone.
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I am pretty sure you were joking right! Or atleast I hope LOL
telegraph0000 said:
Lord I hope you failed history...
Who invented the telephone?
Alexander Graham Bell was born on March 3, 1847 in Edinburgh, Scotland, the son of Alexander Melville Bell and Eliza Grace Symonds, daughter of a surgeon in the Royal Navy. His mother, who was a portrait painter and accomplished musician, began to lose her hearing when Graham (a name that was used by his family and close friends) was twelve. His father had a world wide reputation as a teacher and author of textbooks on correct speech, and as the inventor of "visible speech," a code of symbols which indicated the position and action of the throat, tongue and lips in uttering various sounds. Melville’s Visible Speech helped to guide the deaf in learning to speak and Graham became an expert in its use for that purpose.
Graham and his two brothers assisted Melville in public demonstrations in Visible Speech, beginning in 1862. At the same time he enrolled as a student-teacher at Weston House, a boys’ school near Edinburgh where he taught music and speech in exchange for being a student of other subjects. A year later he became a full-time teacher at the University of Edinburgh while studying at the University of London.
In 1866 Bell carried out a series of experiments to determine how vowel sounds are produced. He combined the notes of electrically driven tuning forks to make vowel sounds which gave him the idea of "telegraphing" speech. In 1870 his brothers died of tuberculosis and his family moved to Brantford, Ontario, Canada to a healthier climate. A year later Graham moved to Boston where he opened a school for teachers of the deaf and in 1872 became a professor at Boston University.
Bell’s interest in electricity continued and he attempted to send several telegraph messages over a single wire at one time. Lacking the time and skill to make the equipment for these experiments he enlisted the help of Thomas A. Watson from a nearby electrical shop. The two became fast friends and worked together on the tedious experimentation to produce sounds over the "harmonic telegraph." It was on June 2, 1875, while Bell was at one end of the line and Watson worked on the reeds of the telegraph in another room that he heard the sound of a plucked reed coming to him over the wire.
The next day, after much tinkering, the instrument transmitted the sound of Bell’s voice to Watson. The instrument transmitted recognizable voice sound, not words. Bell and Watson experimented all summer and in September, 1875, Bell began to write the specifications for his first telephone patent.
The patent was issued on March 7, 1876. The telephone carried its first intelligible sentence three days later in the rented top floor of a Boston boarding house at 109 Court Street, Boston.
Apple:
Established in Cupertino, California on April 1, 1976 and incorporated January 3, 1977,[5] the company was called Apple Computer Inc. for its first 30 years, but dropped the word "Computer" on January 9, 2007[6] to reflect the company's ongoing expansion into the consumer electronics market in addition to its traditional focus on personal computers.
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Antonio Santi Giuseppe Meucci invented the telephone.
Graham Bell had money to patent it.
pwned!
Irregular Programming said:
Antonio Santi Giuseppe Meucci invented the telephone.
Graham Bell had money to patent it.
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and now with PR campains from APPLE
it is Jobs the one who invented phone )
Irregular Programming said:
Antonio Santi Giuseppe Meucci invented the telephone.
Graham Bell had money to patent it.
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telegraph i know who invented the phone. my comment was a social cometary saying people are ignorant to think that the iphone is innovative in anyway.
I dislike Apple marketing, service, and many of their more uninformed users, but the products themselves aren't horrid. Overpriced? Arguably. Value is in the eye of the beholder, even if the beholder doesn't care for all the facts.
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telegraph i know who invented the phone. my comment was a social cometary saying people are ignorant to think that the iphone is innovative in anyway.
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You see how frustrated I am?????
AAAAaaaaAAaAAAaahh!!!! My sense of sarcasm...my bladder control....
THEY'RE GONE!!!!!!!!
telegraph0000 said:
You see how frustrated I am?????
AAAAaaaaAAaAAAaahh!!!! My sense of sarcasm...my bladder control....
THEY'RE GONE!!!!!!!!
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he he. it is ok you can't hear the tone of my voice.
The first iphone didn't had any video recording, cut-paste options.
Now the improved versions have, and they think they have done a big job getting those options... what a baby group...
telegraph0000 said:
My very bright but technologically infantly 9 year old girl made me give her a good talking to today. She has seen several of the new iphone commercials...
Cut and paste, now on the iphone 3gs
voice command now on the iphone 3gs
"can your phone do that?"
can my phone do that...can my phone do that..it's as if they were reinventing the wheel!!!
Give Jobs a pat on the head, he just tied his ishoelaces!!!
Sad to say that Apple thinks most people are I-diots!!
(okay, okay...looked funnier on my paper napkin)
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I have spent so much time explaining what a crappy device the iPhail is to the ignorant crApple fanboys. It is not even a smartphone. It is a damn feature phone with outdated hardware and software capabilities.
Apple has good marketing campaigns + people are naive sheep = iPhail success.
I don't mind anyone using and enjoying. I just HATE it when someone comes and says that it is the best device ever or that apple invented anything.
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you know apple invented the phone.
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telegraph0000 said:
Lord I hope you failed history...
Who invented the telephone?
Alexander Graham Bell was born on March 3, 1847 in Edinburgh, Scotland, the son of Alexander Melville Bell and Eliza Grace Symonds, daughter of a surgeon in the Royal Navy. His mother, who was a portrait painter and accomplished musician, began to lose her hearing when Graham (a name that was used by his family and close friends) was twelve. His father had a world wide reputation as a teacher and author of textbooks on correct speech, and as the inventor of "visible speech," a code of symbols which indicated the position and action of the throat, tongue and lips in uttering various sounds. Melville’s Visible Speech helped to guide the deaf in learning to speak and Graham became an expert in its use for that purpose.
Graham and his two brothers assisted Melville in public demonstrations in Visible Speech, beginning in 1862. At the same time he enrolled as a student-teacher at Weston House, a boys’ school near Edinburgh where he taught music and speech in exchange for being a student of other subjects. A year later he became a full-time teacher at the University of Edinburgh while studying at the University of London.
In 1866 Bell carried out a series of experiments to determine how vowel sounds are produced. He combined the notes of electrically driven tuning forks to make vowel sounds which gave him the idea of "telegraphing" speech. In 1870 his brothers died of tuberculosis and his family moved to Brantford, Ontario, Canada to a healthier climate. A year later Graham moved to Boston where he opened a school for teachers of the deaf and in 1872 became a professor at Boston University.
Bell’s interest in electricity continued and he attempted to send several telegraph messages over a single wire at one time. Lacking the time and skill to make the equipment for these experiments he enlisted the help of Thomas A. Watson from a nearby electrical shop. The two became fast friends and worked together on the tedious experimentation to produce sounds over the "harmonic telegraph." It was on June 2, 1875, while Bell was at one end of the line and Watson worked on the reeds of the telegraph in another room that he heard the sound of a plucked reed coming to him over the wire.
The next day, after much tinkering, the instrument transmitted the sound of Bell’s voice to Watson. The instrument transmitted recognizable voice sound, not words. Bell and Watson experimented all summer and in September, 1875, Bell began to write the specifications for his first telephone patent.
The patent was issued on March 7, 1876. The telephone carried its first intelligible sentence three days later in the rented top floor of a Boston boarding house at 109 Court Street, Boston.
Apple:
Established in Cupertino, California on April 1, 1976 and incorporated January 3, 1977,[5] the company was called Apple Computer Inc. for its first 30 years, but dropped the word "Computer" on January 9, 2007[6] to reflect the company's ongoing expansion into the consumer electronics market in addition to its traditional focus on personal computers.
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TROLLED !!!
I have an idea
I was wondering if there is a way we can put an end to the WinMo hating threads that keep popping up. It does seem like in the last few months there has regularly been new threads created just to complain or be haters and not find solutions.
I am not sure what, if anything can be done, but I would like it if at least such nonsensical threads could be moved to the off-topic section because they generally don't have anything to do with any of the hardware, software or operating system.
Anyone else have any thoughts about this?
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I was wondering if there is a way we can put an end to the WinMo hating threads that keep popping up. It does seem like in the last few months there has regularly been new threads created just to complain or be haters and not find solutions.
I am not sure what, if anything can be done, but I would like it if at least such nonsensical threads could be moved to the off-topic section because they generally don't have anything to do with any of the hardware, software or operating system.
Anyone else have any thoughts about this?
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I agree. The problem is threads can start with good intetntion and be useful and then they often seem to deteriorate into a pointless opinion based argument. Not sure of a way round the problem short of starting a separate forum called XDA Under 16's
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HOW COULD HE SERIOUSLY SAY THE SENTENCE WAS TOO HARSH? HE GOT THE MINIMUM FOR THAT SENTENCE. AND DUDE CONSPIRED TO OUT A CIA AGENT. PUT THE LADY AND HER FAMILY IN HARMS WAY AND THEN LIED TO THE GRAND JURY, JUDGE, PROSECUTORS, AND FBI ABOUT IT.
IF THIS WAS A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY HE WOULD BE PUT IN FRONT OF A FIRING SQUAD FOR TREASON.
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Dang Yankee fans... they get all upset when their team sucks.
Madcap180 said:
Dang Yankee fans... they get all upset when their team sucks.
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I wear my yankee emblem proudly.
well if libby was really just the fallguy for rovoe or even cheney
maybe they had too for him to keep his trap shut
Impeach Dubya
Oh don't even get me started talking about our Village Idiot. I keep telling myself that in 2008 we will all wake up from a very bad dream!! After his daddy's joke of a Presidency, I KNEW not to vote for Dubya...so don't blame me...I laugh daily at all the Bush-isms, and cry because of how ridiculous the US must look right now to other countries. To all those folks NOT from the US...trust me when I say, the US doesn't want this jackass (or at least the citizens who aren't multi-gazillionaires)...and now THIS????? They went after Bill for booty calls, why in Hell's name aren't we doing something about our slimebag Prez= IMPEACHING his @ss???
UGGG...one more year...one more year...one more year (it seems to be my new mantra).
saw some covering of him going to albania
it was mentioned that he was more popular there then
in us at the moment
but then recall blair being more popular in us then in uk so maybe thats normal enough
National Jester...
Hmm...was he talking about the speech-bungling-ever-so-clumsy Bush or immaculate-speaking (even-though-lying-through-his-teeth) Blair ?
I would presume the ultimate crown of village idiot goes to Bush...and many do agree.
Now to the issue at hand - Scooter Libby did as he was told - period !
I am sure we are all smart enough to see that, and why should he go to jail for the ever scheming Cheney? Not that I am a fan of www.counterpunch.org (they seem a bunch of disgruntled ex-CIA, ex-FBI ex-XYZ), but they do give you a balanced view to the intrigues of American polics. Those guys were right on the money, even before the Bush intervention was public.
Just do as Mike said...come back home wayward 'poodle'....err more like 'Rottweiler'
lol
AD10 said:
Hmm...was he talking about the speech-bungling-ever-so-clumsy Bush or immaculate-speaking (even-though-lying-through-his-teeth) Blair ?
I would presume the ultimate crown of village idiot goes to Bush...and many do agree.
Now to the issue at hand - Scooter Libby did as he was told - period !
I am sure we are all smart enough to see that, and why should he go to jail for the ever scheming Cheney? Not that I am a fan of www.counterpunch.org (they seem a bunch of disgruntled ex-CIA, ex-FBI ex-XYZ), but they do give you a balanced view to the intrigues of American polics. Those guys were right on the money, even before the Bush intervention was public.
Just do as Mike said...come back home wayward 'poodle'....err more like 'Rottweiler'
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he did what he was told involving the leak of valerie plame.
now the reason he got convicted because he got caught in lies. the whole point of this thing was for him to tell the truth. if he did, some very important people would have had to go down. like, carl rove. carl rove would have been in the hot seat and would have had to name names. and he would have named the big ****. and it would be all down hill from there.
he lied to protect his cabinet. so he should be in jail. he broke a federal law.
people who break laws, should be in jail.
btw: dont act like its just bush alone who is an idiot. if a scholar follows an idiot, then how much of a scholar can he really be? (speaking of course about tony blair)
well as i understand it near the end of the presidency they get to hand out a get out of jail free card
recall something like it with clinton but forget it the public outcry caused him to avoid doing it anyway
maybe libby was promised a pardon later on to keep his mouth shut
personaly i dont think anybody really think that it's right or fair
many people in the history have been punished even if they were just
acting under orders
free will should cause one to take ones own stand no matter what anybody tells you to....
I think we all forget at times that this is no longer a govt for the people by the people but a govt for the rich and corporations. by the rich and corporations. That's all right though cuz soon us middle of the line folks will be ran down till there is nothing left for them to take. And then who will wipe there as#@.
Back home in Boston a FBI agent was sentenced to like 20 years or something like that for helping out a mob guy named Whitey Bulger.. He got more of a sentence then Libby did.. lol
Rudegar said:
well as i understand it near the end of the presidency they get to hand out a get out of jail free card
recall something like it with clinton but forget it the public outcry caused him to avoid doing it anyway
maybe libby was promised a pardon later on to keep his mouth shut
personaly i dont think anybody really think that it's right or fair
many people in the history have been punished even if they were just
acting under orders
free will should cause one to take ones own stand no matter what anybody tells you to....
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thats exactly my point here. he had a chance to be a man, or a pawn of the establishment. and he conformed to protect the very people that put him in harms way to begin with.
this transcends party lines. lets forget for a minute that clinton, bush sr, regan, and nixon have all pardoned people. is that the excuse now, because your predecessor has pardoned people, you have to? why can't each man stand on his own record? bush has made it clear that he will not hand out pardons and sentence commutes to the guilty. why should he turn back on his word now?
this makes me feel like our justice system is a big joke. even martha stewart got a year for insider trading. lil kim got a year and a day for the same exact thing libby did... lie to the feds. my parents taught me that if i did the wrong thing i will go to jail. what example is this setting for the rest of the country and the youngsters growing up watching this?
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who did Clinton pardon anyway? .. and .. Since Bush was re-elected, does that mean he got 2 free pardons? lol.. since one of his terms ended already..
Madcap180 said:
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who did Clinton pardon anyway? .. and .. Since Bush was re-elected, does that mean he got 2 free pardons? lol.. since one of his terms ended already..
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20010120/aponline135239_000.htm
nobody significant. the most controversial one was hillary's brother. i mean i think they should do away with the pardon thing all together. executive privilege is out of hand.
presidents can pardon how many people they want. they hand out get out of jail free cards like its candy.
Impeach Dubya
The truth is that Dubya has been a liar and cheat since day ONE. He can care less about the average American, and rather goes out of his way to line the pockets of the rich buddies who got him into office ($3.31/gallon gas??? Puleez!)...our unemployment levels are insane, are property sales are bottomed out, our economy is far from stable...there are more people living in the U.S at poverty level than there were during the great depression...seriously WTF??? Nobody wants this so-called "War on Terror" to continue, the death toll is beginning to look like Vietnam, and even the soldiers who traditionally are treated well, have been losing benefits and pay...so why serve? In 7 years Dubya has taken us from a healthy and stable economy and growth to sh*t, we are losing allies, and the rest of the world sees the U.S as a bully and/or joke. And sadly it is because of our dipsh*t figurehead and his lying cabinet, when in truth most Americans do not want any association with him...well except for Florida and Ohio (thank the lord he cannot run for a 3rd term)...and for the record, the RIAA/MPAA have prosecuted, won, and served harder punishments on pirates than Libby faced, or was released from. Even Paris Hilton had to have her few short weeks in jail...yet Libby goes free???? To say that this will be a hardship for his family still, despite his not going to jail...he willingly lied and saved the collective asses of the Presidency and Cabinet...if this isn't a reason to call for impeachment I don't know what is!!! Let's compare...a blowjob or swindling and cheating America, lying about the war, commuting sentence on what should be treason...or a blowjob...WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG HERE??? I say let the Prez get booty calls...kept the economy stable and healthy, kept us out of a war, created jobs...a happy Prez is an ok Prez (have yet to see a good Prez)...JFK got tons of booty calls and is remembered as a fantastic Prez...think about it.
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." Dubya, August 2004, Washington, DC
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told you not to get me started talking about the Idiot.
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The truth is that Dubya has been a liar and cheat since day ONE. He can care less about the average American, and rather goes out of his way to line the pockets of the rich buddies who got him into office ($3.31/gallon gas??? Puleez!)...our unemployment levels are insane, are property sales are bottomed out, our economy is far from stable...there are more people living in the U.S at poverty level than there were during the great depression...seriously WTF??? Nobody wants this so-called "War on Terror" to continue, the death toll is beginning to look like Vietnam, and even the soldiers who traditionally are treated well, have been losing benefits and pay...so why serve? In 7 years Dubya has taken us from a healthy and stable economy and growth to sh*t, we are losing allies, and the rest of the world sees the U.S as a bully and/or joke. And sadly it is because of our dipsh*t figurehead and his lying cabinet, when in truth most Americans do not want any association with him...well except for Florida and Ohio (thank the lord he cannot run for a 3rd term)...and for the record, the RIAA/MPAA have prosecuted, won, and served harder punishments on pirates than Libby faced, or was released from. Even Paris Hilton had to have her few short weeks in jail...yet Libby goes free???? To say that this will be a hardship for his family still, despite his not going to jail...he willingly lied and saved the collective asses of the Presidency and Cabinet...if this isn't a reason to call for impeachment I don't know what is!!! Let's compare...a blowjob or swindling and cheating America, lying about the war, commuting sentence on what should be treason...or a blowjob...WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG HERE??? I say let the Prez get booty calls...kept the economy stable and healthy, kept us out of a war, created jobs...a happy Prez is an ok Prez (have yet to see a good Prez)...JFK got tons of booty calls and is remembered as a fantastic Prez...think about it.
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told you not to get me started talking about the Idiot.
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*claps*
that was perfect. the only thing ill add is that... there is nothing wrong with a "war on terror". but we cannot, or should not terrorize people to stop terror. all its doing is helping recruit more terrorists. i have family in the armed forces. so i feel sorrow for the troops who have died because of this war. but on a human level i also feel for the 30,000+ civilians (women and children, and innocent men) that died in iraq. how can we force a democracy on a country that ever asked for it in the first place. the last country that tried force something on us, we kicked their ass (england, lol). why can't the same logic go into our foreign policy?
the sentence communication that the president granted single handedly shot down any moral high ground this presidency had left. they are total users and abusers of the system. and the dems are no better for letting it happen.
republicans are blind followers, and dems are spineless bureaucrats with all talk.
i think im going to change my party affiliation to indepenant
wonder if senat could stop those pardons if they wanted to?
was ROFL when bush used the senat's hollyday to get Bolton the un ambassador elected by himself because the senat dident want to vote for him
thats pretty wacked democracy
I come from a military family. My mom, dad and step dad served, my grandpa served, 2 uncles served, my husband served...I have a strong dose of patriotism running through my veins. That said, it is appalling what the troops and their families have had to endure under the Dubya Admin. An article 36 was filed against a soldier in Hawaii for refusing to go to Iraq and (as he stated it) be forced to murder innocents in the name of oil. If found guilty, his military career will end, he will do time, and will forever have problems getting a good-paying job, as the article 36 and dishonorable discharge will forever follow him. He will lose any pension and VA benefits. All for standing up for his beliefs. Libby?? He gets first a slap on the wrist, follow by a presidential release to serve time. WTF????? WTF????? WTF?????
I will always support the soldiers. They and their families make so many sacrifices for crappy pay, and possibly death....but I do not and will not support Dubya and his lies. His "war on terror", or rather fight to control oil producing countries. Saddam is dead. Where is Osama, and why hasn't he been brought in? It is no longer a terrorist hunt, it is an issue of Dubya insuring his oil buddies interests, rather than the interests of U.S.
Libby was (I'm sure) aware of this, and probably knew of items proving this...he "took one for the team" so to speak, and for doing so, Bush covered his @ss. Just one more thing I wish to use as a nail in the coffin of Dubya's lying, cheating presidency.
I am kind of anti military .. well, not anti military, I respect the guys who were DRAFTED into the army more than the ones who CHOSE to go and then WHINE about it later.... I dunno.. I can't stand the way George Bush always says 'This war is about protecting the way of life in America' ?? I dont get it, what does Iraq have to do with how WE live? .. we spend 100's of billions of dollars on rebuilding a country, but somewhere in the ghetto's of LA and New York some homeless family can't even get a bite to eat..
FIX HOME FIRST.. hypoctite.
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I am kind of anti military .. well, not anti military, I respect the guys who were DRAFTED into the army more than the ones who CHOSE to go and then WHINE about it later.... I dunno.. I can't stand the way George Bush always says 'This war is about protecting the way of life in America' ?? I dont get it, what does Iraq have to do with how WE live? .. we spend 100's of billions of dollars on rebuilding a country, but somewhere in the ghetto's of LA and New York some homeless family can't even get a bite to eat..
FIX HOME FIRST.. hypoctite.
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point taken...
however, murphy says "where a man stands on an issue depends on where he sits".
bush, nor his cabinet can relate to a homeless family in la or new york. to a lot of people, they have the mind set of "why can't they just get a job". they dont understand the social ills in the innercity or how to change them. most of the guys who make the laws were born with a silver spoon, most of the guys who look up to them are dirt poor.
p.s. thats whats really wrong with the republican party. their base is so blind that they dont even realize that their representatives dont even represent them. i always find it amazing when i have a discussion with a middle class white person that they are republican and dont even know why. their party does absolutely nothing for them.
dont blame the troops though. they take advantage of what options are available to them. the armed forces recruit in the inner cities and the poor rural areas because they know those people hardly other options. it is only after they get out of the military that they understand what was really going on all along. while in the military i think they feel they have an obligation to not question their leaders. i guess they see that as insubordination. however, leaders are human too. and they are also american.
i'll end by saying this. i can't stand when another american questions my patriotism because i am against this war. i was against this war from the start. when it was UNCOOL to speak out against the war. and i still am against the war. i support the troops but i do not support what they are doing in iraq.
i thank akashastrega's family for their contribution.
Here is something really messed up. I really am interested in current events and news; I like alternative news and websites. I like custom things, which is why I customize my phone and come here. Charlie Veitch is a current events activist/funny guy. Charlie Veitch is one of the nicest people in the entire planet! Check out his videos on YouTube, he is totally funny, and the Canadian police arrested him for "impersonating a police officer". He calls himself "The Love Police" and so they said that he was impersonating a police officer so they arrested him, he is facing jail time.
This is messed.
His Arrest.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2010/06/30/g20-veith.html
G20 Toronto - The Love Police Arrested (Part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bimkiWhfSD0&feature=related
G20 Toronto - The Love Police Arrested (Part 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stzTeJuBI7M&feature=related
Yes, he is released on bail. - I hope he doesn't come back to Canada, cuz those cops will throw him in jail forever.
http://www.citytv.com/toronto/cityn...impersonating-police-officer-released-on-bail
-Ki|ihari.
He did make a little mistake in his verbiage at 6:23 of video one. And I get it. But I hope there is a group of people that stand outside his house with a megaphone in the morning. I was annoyed by 4:30 in the video. The mall was poor taste.
good day.
Amazing though....
I do see your point... however if a person is dumb enough to believe that he is with MI5, then that person should not be working as a cop. So he says that he is working for the British Secret Police MI5 in a joint operation with the Canadian government as an agent provocateur, and the stupid Canadian security officer actually thought he was MI5? This is what they are getting him for?
Also, if I saw this guy in a mall spouting off his comedy filled banter like he usually does, I would be asking for an autograph.
Where is people's heads?
This is Canada? Surly this is not the Canada I grew up in. People used to feel a sense of security when they police were around, now all we feel is fear.
-Kilihari.
Hey folks!
I dunno why, but I had something pop into my head on my way to work today, and I thought I'd ask you fine folks.
This question is directed at British, Australian, and New Zealander members of XDA.
Let us assume you're in a conversation with someone, and they either use the term:
A. Footballer
B. Football Player
Would you automatically assume if they said "footballer" they were referring to that sport which you folks call "football" and we Americans call "soccer", but if the person had said "football player" would you assume they meant American Football?
Thanks in advance!
I'd think English football for both We don't really do American Football haha
Oh, ok.
I know you guys aren't necessarily going to be "into" American Football. lol...
I just didn't know if you considered one or the other to be exclusive.
My ex-girlfriend taught me, for instance, that "rooting for one's team" in Brit/Aussie circles would have a, *ahem* completely different meaning than it does here in the U.S. I didn't know if you had the same degree of differentiation for what you call your athletes.
Groovy. Thanks!
SciFiSurfer said:
Oh, ok.
I know you guys aren't necessarily going to be "into" American Football. lol...
I just didn't know if you considered one or the other to be exclusive.
My ex-girlfriend taught me, for instance, that "rooting for one's team" in Brit/Aussie circles would have a, *ahem* completely different meaning than it does here in the U.S. I didn't know if you had the same degree of differentiation for what you call your athletes.
Groovy. Thanks!
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Haha Okay, Wait are you sure? When someone says youre rooting for a team or whatever it means supporting
We usually refer to your version of football as;
"Stop And Go Shiny Helmet Carry Ball"
Sometimes shortened to "American Football"
Go Packers
Also, last I heard football was over because all the players are too busy sleeping with prostitutes to actually play football anymore. That could just be the BBC/Daily Mail scaremongering though.
conantroutman said:
We usually refer to your version of football as;
"Stop And Go Shiny Helmet Carry Ball"
Sometimes shortened to "American Football"
Go Packers
Also, last I heard football was over because all the players are too busy sleeping with prostitutes to actually play football anymore. That could just be the BBC/Daily Mail scaremongering though.
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Can I steal that epically funny phrase?
(my Dad played for the San Francisco 49ers in 1959, 60, 61}
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Can I steal that epically funny phrase?
(my Dad played for the San Francisco 49ers in 1959, 60, 61}
Sent from my Nexus S because it decided to play nice....or telepathically using two tin cans and some string.
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Help yourself
Im guessing Super Sunday was an extra big deal in your house then?.....
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Im guessing Super Sunday was an extra big deal in your house then?.....
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Thanks
Still is
Sent from my Nexus S because it decided to play nice....or telepathically using two tin cans and some string.
In the UK, Footballer & football player are the same thing, they mean soccer player.
In Australia, they call it soccer and soccer player...football (footy) is either NRL(National Rugby League) or AFL (Australian Football League).
Well I'm not British but I watch the english premier league a lot and go to a lot of games (btw Bolton are beating Arsenal!!) and I'd assume that when you're talking about a footballer that it's the premier league and a football player is like NFL. That might be because I'm one of of few who actually know how to play NFL football and how the rules work and follow it.
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Well I'm not British but I watch the english premier league a lot and go to a lot of games (btw Bolton are beating Arsenal!!) and I'd assume that when you're talking about a footballer that it's the premier league and a football player is like NFL. That might be because I'm one of of few who actually know how to play NFL football and how the rules work and follow it.
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Over here, we call them footballers, football players, the-idiot-who-lost-my-200-dollar-bet-because-he-couldn't-score-from-point-blank, the-sissy-diver, and probably that-ambiguously-gay-dude-who-keeps-hugging-everyone.
Oh, and we call them people who carry the "football" around with their hands retards.
You folks are awesome, and this thread made me laugh. Trust me, today I could do with a laugh, so thanks very much!
My ex-g/f and I had a number of conversations about the differences between Australia/Europe and the U.S. vis à vis both sports and school. She told me few interesting things.
1. Australia doesn't have schools with big sports teams. The notion of big money teams that aren't professional teams is, I gather, essentially an unknown concept.
2. You don't ask "What team are you rooting for?" because "rooting" means having sex with.
3. Students really don't get to pick what professors they have in college for their classes.
(She also put me wise to the Australia/NZ rivalry and jokes, but I really don't remember them. Well, except for the sheep jokes, but those are really baa-aa-aa-ad.)
SciFiSurfer said:
You folks are awesome, and this thread made me laugh. Trust me, today I could do with a laugh, so thanks very much!
My ex-g/f and I had a number of conversations about the differences between Australia/Europe and the U.S. vis à vis both sports and school. She told me few interesting things.
1. Australia doesn't have schools with big sports teams. The notion of big money teams that aren't professional teams is, I gather, essentially an unknown concept.
2. You don't ask "What team are you rooting for?" because "rooting" means having sex with.
3. Students really don't get to pick what professors they have in college for their classes.
(She also put me wise to the Australia/NZ rivalry and jokes, but I really don't remember them. Well, except for the sheep jokes, but those are really baa-aa-aa-ad.)
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I think that school thing really only happens in North America. I haven't heard of one country in Europe that has like big teams that are a school. They are mostly just formed from people getting together and forming a 'club'. That's basically how all football teams are over here. And the football teams have the professional team, then under teams for like kids and so on. Like there isn't only one Manchester United team for example, they have the reserves team and then youth teams.
Sadly, most schools in Britain these days dont receive enough funding to teach basic maths and English.... let alone fund a seriously competitive sporting team.
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Sadly, most schools in Britain these days dont receive enough funding to teach basic maths and English.... let alone fund a seriously competitive sporting team.
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I was actually only referring to colleges, not K-12 schools. In that, sadly, the U.K. and the U.S. are essentially the same. There's so much that's not taught or done in schools that was taught or done not that long ago.
Part of the problem is the whole "teach to the test" phenomenon associated with the various state-level tests. Washington DC wants to have the states give that up in favor of pushing its own nationally standardized test. The problem there is twofold:
1. More and more power concentrated and centralized in one all-powerful authority;
2. Replacing one "teach to the test" environment with another one.
Anyhow, I don't intend to turn this into a political debate (which if we keep going down this road it surely will be), I'm simply curious about the differences.
Thanks again!
Al Davis, the renegade owner of the Oakland Raiders who bucked NFL authority while exhorting his silver-and-black team to "Just win, baby!," died Saturday. He was 82.
The Hall of Famer died at his home in Oakland, the team said. The cause of death was not immediately disclosed.
"The Oakland Raiders are deeply saddened by the passing of Al Davis," the team said in a statement. "Al Davis was unique, a maverick, a giant among giants, a true legend among legends, the brightest star among stars, a hero, a mentor, a friend."
Indeed, Davis was one of the most important figures in NFL history -- a rebel with a subpoena. That was most evident during the 1980s when he went to court -- and won -- for the right to move his team from Oakland to Los Angeles. Even after he moved the Raiders back to the Bay Area in 1995, he sued for $1.2 billion to establish that he still owned the rights to the L.A. market.
Before that, though, he was a pivotal figure in hastening the merger between the AFL -- where he served as commissioner -- and the more established NFL. Davis was not initially in favor of a merger, but his aggressive pursuit of NFL players for his fledgling league and team helped bring about the eventual 1970 combination of the two leagues into what is now the most popular sport in the country.
"Al Davis's passion for football and his influence on the game were extraordinary," commissioner Roger Goodell said. "He defined the Raiders and contributed to pro football at every level. The respect he commanded was evident in the way that people listened carefully every time he spoke. He is a true legend of the game whose impact and legacy will forever be part of the NFL."
But Davis was hardly an NFL company man.
Not in the way he dressed -- usually satin running suits, one white, one black, and the occasional black suit, black shirt and silver tie. Not in the way he wore his hair -- slicked back with a '50s duck-tail. Not in the way he talked -- Brooklynese with Southern inflection. Not in the way he did business -- on his own terms, always on his own terms.
"His contributions to the game are innumerable and his legacy will endure forever through generations of players, coaches, administrators and fans," the Raiders said.
Elected in 1992 to the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Davis was a trailblazer. He hired the first black head coach of the modern era -- Art Shell in 1988. He hired the second Latino coach, Tom Flores; and the first woman CEO, Amy Trask. And he was infallibly loyal to his players and officials: to be a Raider was to be a Raider for life.
Coach Hue Jackson told the team of Davis' death at a meeting in Houston on Saturday morning. Fans dressed in Raiders jerseys, meanwhile, quickly made their way to team headquarters in Alameda, where a black flag with the team logo flew at half-staff and a makeshift memorial formed at the base of the flag pole.
People carrying flowers, flags, silver and black pom-poms and even a football-shaped balloon stopped by to pay tribute on a warm, crystal clear fall day in the Bay Area. A tiny candle burned as well.
"It's like losing a grandfather," said Rob Ybarra of Alameda, who left a bouquet of white flowers shortly after hearing the news of Davis' passing. "He's such an icon. The face of the Raiders. It's hard to put into words how much he meant to everyone."
Davis is survived by his wife, Carol, and son Mark, who Davis had said would run the team after his death.
Davis was charming, cantankerous and compassionate -- a man who when his wife suffered a serious heart attack in the 1970s moved into her hospital room. But he was best known as a rebel, a man who established a team whose silver-and-black colors and pirate logo symbolized his attitude toward authority, both on the field and off.
Until the decline of the Raiders into a perennial loser in the first decade of the 21st century he was a winner, the man who as a coach, then owner-general manager-de facto coach, established what he called "the team of the decades" based on another slogan: "commitment to excellence." And the Raiders were excellent, winning three Super Bowls during the 1970s and 1980s and contending almost every other season -- an organization filled with castoffs and troublemakers who turned into trouble for opponents.
"Al was a football man -- his entire life revolved around the game he loved," said Tennessee Titans owner Bud Adams, an original AFL owner of the Houston Oilers. "He worked his way up through the ranks and had a knowledge of all phases of the game. That experience aided him as an owner. He was quite different from every other owner in that way. As an AFL guy, he was in that group of people who pushed our league forward. I didn't get to see him over the last few years and I know many, including myself, will miss him."
Born in Brockton, Mass., Davis grew up in Brooklyn and graduated from Erasmus Hall High School, a spawning ground in the two decades after World War II for a number of ambitious young people who became renowned in sports, business and entertainment. Davis was perhaps the second most famous graduate after Barbra Streisand.
"We had a reunion in Los Angeles and 500 people showed up, including Bah-bruh," he once told an interviewer in that combination of southern drawl/Brooklynese that was often parodied among his acquaintances within the league and without.
A graduate of Syracuse University, he became an assistant coach with the Baltimore Colts at age 24; and was an assistant at The Citadel and then Southern California before joining the Los Angeles Chargers of the new AFL in 1960. Only three years later, he was hired by the Raiders and became the youngest general manager-head coach in pro football history with a team he called "the Raid-uhs" in 1963.
He was a good one, 23-16-3 in three seasons with a franchise that had started its life 9-23.
Then he bought into the failing franchise, which played on a high school field adjacent to the Nimitz Freeway in Oakland, and became managing general partner, a position he held until his death.
But as the many bright young coaches he hired -- from John Madden, Mike Shanahan and Jon Gruden to Lane Kiffin -- found out, he remained the real coach. He ran everything from the sidelines, often calling down with plays, or sending emissaries to the sidelines to make substitutions.
In 1966, he became commissioner of the AFL.
But even before that, he had begun to break an unwritten truce between the young league and its established rivals, which fought over draft choices but did not go after established players.
Although the NFL's New York Giants' signing of Buffalo placekicker Pete Gogolak marked the first break in that rule, it was Davis who began to go after NFL stars -- pursuing quarterbacks John Brodie and Roman Gabriel as he tried to establish AFL supremacy.
Davis' war precipitated first talks of merger, although Davis opposed it. But led by Lamar Hunt of Kansas City, the AFL owners agreed that peace was best. A common draft was established, and the first Super Bowl was played following the 1966 season -- Green Bay beat Kansas City, then went on to beat Davis' Raiders the next season. By 1970, the leagues were fully merged and the NFL had the basic structure it retains until this day -- with Pete Rozelle as commissioner, not Davis, who wanted the job badly.
So he went back to the Raiders, running a team that won Super Bowls after the 1976, 1980 and 1983 seasons -- the last one in Los Angeles, where the franchise moved in 1982 after protracted court fights. It was a battling bunch, filled with players such as John Matuszak, Mike Haynes and Lyle Alzado, stars who didn't fit in elsewhere who combined with homegrown stars -- Ken Stabler, another rebellious spirit; Gene Upshaw; Shell, Jack Tatum, Willie Brown and dozens of others.
After extended lawsuits involving the move to Los Angeles, he went back to Oakland and at one point in the early years of the century was involved in suits in northern and southern California -- the one seeking the Los Angeles rights and another suing Oakland for failing to deliver sellouts they promised to get the Raiders back.
"Personally, I was fond of him," Bengals owner and president Mike Brown said. "He battled with the NFL, and a lot of us wished that had not been where things went, but under all that was a person I respected. It saddens me to hear that he is gone."
As Davis aged, his teams declined.
The Raiders got to the Super Bowl after the 2002 season, losing to Tampa Bay. But for a long period after that, they had the worst record in the NFL, at one point with five coaches in six years.
It is fitting that this year's Raiders team is built in typical Raiders fashion with a bevy of speedsters on offense capable of delivering the deep-strike play Davis always coveted, a physically imposing defensive line that can pressure the quarterback and an accomplished man coverage cornerback in Stanford Routt.
Once a constant presence at practice, training camp and in the locker room, Davis was rarely seen in public beyond the bizarre spectacles to fire and hire coaches where he spent more time disparaging his former coach than praising his new one.
He did not appear at a single training camp practice this summer and missed a game in Buffalo last month, believed to be only the third game he missed in 49 seasons with the franchise. Davis did attend Oakland's home game last week against New England.
Although he was no longer as public a figure, he was still integrally involved in the team from the draft to negotiating contracts to discussing strategy with his coaches. Jackson has said Davis was unlike any other owner he had worked for in his ability to understand the ins and outs of the game.
"I've never had the opportunity to sit and talk football, the X's and O's and what it takes to win in this league consistently on a consistent basis, and there's nothing like working for coach Davis," Jackson said.
While other owners and league executives branded Davis a renegade, friends and former players found him the epitome of loyalty.
When his wife was stricken with a heart attack, he moved into her hospital room and lived there for more than a month. And when he heard that even a distant acquaintance was ill, he would offer medical help without worrying about expense.
"Disease is the one thing -- boy I tell you, it's tough to lick," he said in 2008, talking about the leg ailments that had restricted him to using a walker. "It's tough to lick those diseases. I don't know why they can't."
A few years earlier, he said: "I can control most things, but I don't seem to be able to control death."
Al Davis is the only owner to ever do this:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d8021fe9b/Top-Ten-Draft-Steals-Ray-Guy
Draft a first round punter and get a top 10 all time steal in the draft. That particular draft pick almost summarizes Al Davis as an owner of the Oakland Raiders. He was both genius and insane. Whatever side of that line he was on that day was anyone's guess.
He drafted Nnamdi Asomugha, who was too slow to play corner and "would have to convert to safety". Asomugha is now easily the best (press/bump) man cover boundary corner in the NFL. Again, it's about what side of that Genius vs Insane line he was on that day.
He also selected plenty of guys who had amazing triangle numbers (40 yard dash, height/weight, bench press) and became somewhat of a punchline at times. This is truly a tragedy, as some will remember him this way and not as the man who made the Raiders great.
Al Davis is only person to ever be a coach, GM, owner, and commissioner (of the AFL).
Bill Belichick, after being fired from Cleveland and before winning 3 Super Bowls in NE, interviewed to be the coach of the Raiders but didn't think he'd get the job because "Mr Davis was basically their defensive coordinator so they'd probably look for an offensive minded guy." He also described Mr Davis as a very knowledgeable owner, who during said interview asked many in depth football questions.
It's sad to see Al die, but it's sadder to see Al die with the Raiders where they are now (though, they are getting better) because that man loved that team. It's even sadder that so many NFL fans don't understand why he is in the Hall of Fame.
Rest in Peace Mr Davis.
I'm mimosa (or John in the default world). Been here before under various names off and on for years, but not in years. It's mimosa like the tree, not the drink. I live in Oakland, CA and am running for mayor (I'll keep the politics off here). I'm currently running a public benefit corporation with the aim of bridging the enormous devide between the public at large and the homeless.
Since getting covid and mennengitus last year, I became homeless after spending most the year in ICU in San Francisco. I was dumbfounded that most of this community can't change there ringtone if they even have a phone, let alone use the internet to look for work or housing.
Before the pandemic, I founded this company (Printing Properties Limited-corporate) along with the son of the founder of burning man to develop a "3d" concrete printer to drive the cost of housing down, so as to house the homeless. Rebuilding the printer is a goal of mine, but it has expanded to other areas as well.
I am interested in exploring/developing a mod that makes cell usage... less technical I guess is a way to put it... for the technological illiterate.
I just started a repurposing electronics division. I figure hands on application with electronics is easier to start with than trying to teach code strait out of the gate. I also repurpose batteries to use with solar/wind/geo-thermal energy systems.
Ill be here frequently now and, as you can see, love to talk. So feel free to send suggestions, advice, comments, and political banter my way.
Be good to each other,
John Marks
Welcome to xda.
Sad to hear about your recent problems.
Happy you survived 2020 and now part of the xda family.
I just rewatched a video about 3D concrete printing that YouTube found for me a few months ago.
It is an interesting project and it seems there has been quite a bit of advancement in the last few years.
If I knew before, I forgot that it started out in the early 2000's.
People getting confused with settings on devices is not a new thing.
I might be dating myself but, there were a lot of people who had 12:00PM flashing on their VCR.
Not sure about making cell phones less technical, maybe an app that can set the adjustments on a phone.
Nice easy to use UI with explanations of each option.?
Your repurposing division sounds interesting.
Are you recycling lithium/hybrid batteries?
From what I have read, their is advancement in that field also.
Best of luck on your personal/career endeavors.
Cheers.