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Exchange Push email with TOUCHDOWN

Just downloaded and installed the new Touchdown update, that adds Push email.
I immediately paid for the license key after checking the program out.
Kickass App.
Not only does it give me push email for my exchange email, it also allows for multi-selecting emails for deletion.
Finally!!!.
Why Google couldn't have included this, is completely beyond me.
But when I evens ee what theme developers, as well as dxHome can do to chnage the look and feel of the phone, it seems to me that they did the bare minimum.
I still am hoping that future releases will see a much more smoother UI, and see some changes to add SOME eye candy to the Market and other pages.
As right now it's really quite drab and dreary.
Just like the original UI is very boring and bland.

I'm pretty certain the idea was, in fact, to do the bare minimum and then allow apps to extend the OS. It's good in thoery, but only once the apps start rolling in to fill the voids.
What I REALLY hope starts to happen is the ability to REMOVE stock apps once new ones start coming in. I already cant stand having both Mail and K9Mail, Messenging and K9SMS, COntacts and StarContact... that quickly bloats the app drawer and wastes memory.

Henchman said:
Just downloaded and installed the new Touchdown update, that adds Push email.
I immediately paid for the license key after checking the program out.
Kickass App.
Not only does it give me push email for my exchange email, it also allows for multi-selecting emails for deletion.
Finally!!!.
Why Google couldn't have included this, is completely beyond me.
But when I evens ee what theme developers, as well as dxHome can do to chnage the look and feel of the phone, it seems to me that they did the bare minimum.
I still am hoping that future releases will see a much more smoother UI, and see some changes to add SOME eye candy to the Market and other pages.
As right now it's really quite drab and dreary.
Just like the original UI is very boring and bland.
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I downloaded this over the weekend and tried to get it working with no luck. I tried both the 2007 and 2003 configuration, with and without it taking the server certificate. Both failed to work for me.
I wish I could get a working exchange software. Its the only thing missing from well almost from Android

rsfaze said:
I downloaded this over the weekend and tried to get it working with no luck. I tried both the 2007 and 2003 configuration, with and without it taking the server certificate. Both failed to work for me.
I wish I could get a working exchange software. Its the only thing missing from well almost from Android
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I had a heck of a time getting it to work.
Untill I followed their PDF instructions to the letter.
And it worked immediatly.

Been using it since it was first released. Took me all of 3 minutes use to buy it back in November. I've been part of their beta program since then as well, and the 2.0 versions are just getting better and better.

I've been using it since initial release, then have been using beta builds, works great with pull and push for me. I'm on exchange 2003, support for the app is great, had few issues in early releases, worked with support and they resolved everything in no time.
overall great app, I've stopped using blackberry while ago.

How does the PUSH mail work
I have just installed the new version of Touchdown
it works perfectly, but how does the Push mail service work!!!
in a Blackberry the server updates the phone once a message arrives, but with touchdown no service is activated from the server, so how does the software do it??
Does it keep an internet connection open all the time? if so when my desktop is on and the message is downloaded directly to my Outlook, will it be able to get a copy before it is downloaded to my PC???
i have a limited data plan and that will make a big difference in my bytes consuption

Exchange Push and Touchdown
If you have not had push enabled previously, you will need to configure it from within you Exchange System Manager (Global Setting -> Mobile Services) and enable for your user account in the Active Directory Users and Computers App (Exchange Features - > Mobile Services). Once this is setup, you can follow the instruction provided by NitroDesk to validate and enable push support.
As messages are received by your exchange server, the server sends a message to your configured cellular providers messaging service - which basic sends a text message notification to your phone telling it that you have new mail on the server. The phone's email client then goes out to retrieve it. Operating this way avoids the need to have the email client continuously check the server for new email.
I hope this helps.
I currently have a problem with Touchdown inwhich the push services turn off soon after being enabled. Status goes from "Push Active" to "Push Off" on the main Touchdown screen. Does anyone have any words of wisdom?
Thx

jhales said:
I currently have a problem with Touchdown inwhich the push services turn off soon after being enabled. Status goes from "Push Active" to "Push Off" on the main Touchdown screen. Does anyone have any words of wisdom?
Thx
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I had the same problem. First check under connection that you have your full e-mail address written. Then under advanced re sync your folders and then under connection try again the active sync. If you don't get an error message when checking for active sync it should work.

do you need to have a static IP on your ISP end in order for this to work?
I'm running exchange server 2003 and want to test TouchDown and hopefully switch off my bb.
Thanks

Definitive Thread - Exchange on Android

It seems that number of people who need Exchange support (via work or school) is growing.
This thread will provide definitive information about status of Exchange on various builds and brief reviews of Exchange apps available on the market.
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Stuff to come:
Exchange on Eclair
2- Exchange on Tattoo
3- Exchange on Hero

Well, 'full' exchange works on tattoo and hero, that's for sure. Myn tried to port the Eclair mail app to donut but the were a lot of lib requirements that made the system slow.
Of course, by full here I mean mail, calendar, contacts. I don't really use tasks so I haven't tracked that between builds.

Email works fine with the "Work Email" app using MYN's Warm Donut Release 3. I haven't been able to test Calendar with anything. (haven't found a free app for that)

I tried the Work Email in Myn's build. Occasionally, I get "sync protocol error." I had to manually refresh the email time to time in order to receive the email.
I gave up using Work Email. Instead, I use Gmail to pull my work email via POP3. I found when I reply my work email in gmail app, it correctly uses my work email address to send instead of my gmail address (just like the desktop version).
I found this is a good compromise because I only need one email app running which saves battery. The only problem is that gmail pulls the work email every hour or so.

What, if any, is the difference between Push mail and exchange mail?
What service is delivering my Gmail to the phone almost instantaneously? My main email account was with Yahoo. But Yahoo Mail required a periodic refreshing(hourly or whatever). I paid Yahoo $10 to upgrade and then I forwarded my Yahoo Mail to my Gmail account.
I signed in with my Gmail account on Android. Now I get my emails almost instantly from both addresses.....I assume this is using the "Push mail" feature of Android and Gmail. What are the benefits of "exchange mail" and do you need to have your Email running from MS Outlook on a desktop to utilize "exchange mail"?

slow88lx said:
What, if any, is the difference between Push mail and exchange mail?
What service is delivering my Gmail to the phone almost instantaneously? My main email account was with Yahoo. But Yahoo Mail required a periodic refreshing(hourly or whatever). I paid Yahoo $10 to upgrade and then I forwarded my Yahoo Mail to my Gmail account.
I signed in with my Gmail account on Android. Now I get my emails almost instantly from both addresses.....I assume this is using the "Push mail" feature of Android and Gmail. What are the benefits of "exchange mail" and do you need to have your Email running from MS Outlook on a desktop to utilize "exchange mail"?
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Push mail is part of ActiveSync. Google licensed ActiveSync from Microsoft so that WinMo users could use the built-in ActiveSync on their phones to get their gmail and google calendar. With the work email app on android, you can choose to download mail items as they arrive which I assume is using the Microsoft 'push' functionality. I don't know how they work it with the gmail app.

I have been using Touchdown. It has worked great, very easy setup.
Syncs everything, mail, contacts, calender, tasks.

Mail, calendar, contacts work on mssmison's new eclair (non-sense) build.

mrkite38 said:
Mail, calendar, contacts work on mssmison's new eclair (non-sense) build.
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Moxier Mail is also a great solution. MUCH better interface than Touchdown IMO

mrkite38 said:
Mail, calendar, contacts work on mssmison's new eclair (non-sense) build.
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I tried taking the Corporate Calendar from that and running it in Warm-Donut but it won't install

Anybody have any luck getting Exchange connectivity to work with mssmision's 1.4 build on a vogue?
Data is working fine for me, but "unable to open connection to server" whenever I try to set it up.
Gmail sync seems to work fine.
Connecting to exchange 2003, with no SSL.
*seems like I got it working it working by messing around with turning SSL on and off, and re-entering various details. It's syncing now

I have had challenges receiving messages with 1.2-1.4, but original 1.1 ported over to 240 works very well.

seanmcd72 said:
I tried taking the Corporate Calendar from that and running it in Warm-Donut but it won't install
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Corp calendar is only for 2.0.1 onwards, whereas Myn's s 1.6 - it won't run. Try moxier mail which is equally good.

seanmcd72 said:
Email works fine with the "Work Email" app using MYN's Warm Donut Release 3. I haven't been able to test Calendar with anything. (haven't found a free app for that)
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does the 'work email' app only work for over the air connections? the exchange server at work only creates partnerships on 'hard connections'
thanks in advance

OK so i have tried moxier mail, work email, and roadsync, all three seem to use OTA (over the air) sync partnership only.
is there any app out there that uses USB connection to establish a partnership for exchange? or better yet, is there a WinXP driver someplace for the 'android phone' that i can install?
i have this one bump and i can go android 100% any help is greatly appreciated.

piperthedj said:
does the 'work email' app only work for over the air connections? the exchange server at work only creates partnerships on 'hard connections'
thanks in advance
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Not sure about that - I wouldn't think it matters if you could actually make a direct connection via usb...

piperthedj said:
OK so i have tried moxier mail, work email, and roadsync, all three seem to use OTA (over the air) sync partnership only.
is there any app out there that uses USB connection to establish a partnership for exchange? or better yet, is there a WinXP driver someplace for the 'android phone' that i can install?
i have this one bump and i can go android 100% any help is greatly appreciated.
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usb networking doesn't work yet, so no.

piperthedj said:
OK so i have tried moxier mail, work email, and roadsync, all three seem to use OTA (over the air) sync partnership only.
is there any app out there that uses USB connection to establish a partnership for exchange? or better yet, is there a WinXP driver someplace for the 'android phone' that i can install?
i have this one bump and i can go android 100% any help is greatly appreciated.
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OK so i get USB is out for the time. got a suggestion from an other board to place the enterprise security certificate in the android folder.
more questions
1. will this replace the need to create a partnership via USB?
2. where should it go to even begin to attempt to see if it works?
thanks again

This thread is long dead, but just for the record - starting in FroYo (2.2), android has native support for email / calendar / contacts.

acegolfer said:
I tried the Work Email in Myn's build. Occasionally, I get "sync protocol error." I had to manually refresh the email time to time in order to receive the email.
I gave up using Work Email. Instead, I use Gmail to pull my work email via POP3. I found when I reply my work email in gmail app, it correctly uses my work email address to send instead of my gmail address (just like the desktop version).
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one thing folks need to understand is that there are some companies (the one i work for for example) who have every exchange security protocol imaginable in place and are not willing to reset for people. this produces problems as with this situation as active-sync is required for a hard line connection to install the security software on your device (3 min security time out- needs to be unlocked more often than typical) and using gmail as a redirector is not a viable option as those features are "not supported'
many of the 'exchange clients' on the market today rely on OTA delivery and security to be in place. IMO there is no true solution to exchange mail for android. there are fixes for calendar and contacts witch is a step in the right direction... but not a 1-fix-it-solution. i have been looking for one for over a year and there is nothing to be done till google and M$ get together and have a pow-wow or sort out what-is-what with security.
YES, there are many good attempts out there but none to help the fully secure.

Email Meeting Requests - No Exchange Server

One of the few things that I'm having issues with in Android is meeting/appointment requests that are sent through email. What I want to do is just add them to the calendar. I'm not using an exchange server, just pop3 from my isp.
The messages with meeting requests appear with the entered text and an attached file "winmail.dat".
My wife uses this to remind me of things and tasks. I used this in winmo without fail, but here.... no go.
I've read about "Corporate Calendar", which seems to be for 2.1 (I'm running Myn's Warm Donut 1.6). I've also read about Touchdown and Moxier mail, which are paid apps. Might install them to try, but each seem to be tied to an exchange server.
I understand another method of doing this would be to use my home pc (which gets the same email and requests) and sync to google mail/calendar. However, I'm using Office 2010 Beta and there appears to be little software that supports this. I'm really not sure why I'm using 2010?
Anyway, in an ideal scenario I would be able to just hit accept and add it to the calendar.
Thanks,
Jr!

Doesn't Google Calendar invite work?

[Q] Very Honest Advice Neede

Hi, I have the chance to buy an unlocked/unbranded Galaxy S, but I need your advice about the following:
a. Exchange Mail/Calendar/Contact sync, this is a deal braker for me, the only experience that I have with android was the Milestone, with the Milestone using the mail program or TouchDown was imposible to make my exchange account work, mail worked sometimes, calendar and contact never.
My company use Exchange 2010 with enforced security, I have no problems using it on my symbian devices (E71 and now N97 mini), of course WinMo phones also work without problem the same as iPhone (my wife work with me and her iPhone works), I have no partners with android phones to check with them. Asking anything to my IT is not an option, my company is large (+250K employees) and they won´t make exceptions.
b. Can I use hotmail via IMAP or only POP? (please, don´t suggest to use Gmail, I also use Gmail but need access to Hotmail)
c. My country is not android market "friendly", any experience using Market Enabler to access the market and buying on it?
Many many thanks for your answers. Regards.

I can only answer to C:
Use MarketAccess:
http://amip.tools-for.net/wiki/android/marketaccess
And Eris Market Fix (found in Android Market, to see the protected apps).
I have been using these on 2.1 and now 2.2 and they are working perfectly.
So glad that I have been able to buy apps!

I can only reply to b:
imap works with the stock client but you're better off with K9 from the market (it's free) as it supports imap push and works well.

For b. you can use gmail (a. I'm not sure but you can try it)
Let me explain:
On gmail Settings > Accounts and Import
In Send mail as:
Click on Send mail from another adress (follow the steps)
Then under:
Check mail using POP3:
Click on Add POP3 email account (follow the steps)
Now you will be able to recieve and send message from and to your hotmail account.
If you don't want to do it this way look on community.seven.com for their mail app

NB! Your company Exchange administrators could (and should) in any time to exclude any phone OS to synchronize according to the company policy for security or another reason.
Question a:
- this should not be possible in the Eclair native eMail application (version 2.1 of Android). This might be possible in paid applications, if they have full MAPI compatibility.
- this should be better possible in the Froyo (version 2.2 of Android). Don't know if it works out of box, but...:
Exchange support
Improved security with the addition of numeric pin or alpha-numeric password options to unlock device. Exchange administrators can enforce password policy across devices.
Remote wipe: Exchange administrators can remotely reset the device to factory defaults to secure data in case device is lost or stolen.
Exchange Calendars are now supported in the Calendar application.
Auto-discovery: you just need to know your user-name and password to easily set up and sync an Exchange account (available for Exchange 2007 and higher).
Global Address Lists look-up is now available in the Email application, enabling users to auto-complete recipient names from the directory.
Exchange information from http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2-highlights.html.

there is also TouchDown 2.0 (paid) for Android that is vastly improved over TouchDown 1.0
back to hotmail account, it works great with the Samsung push Email & IM program, i have all my hotmail accounts real & fake ones all running simultaneously.
but as metioined above if you'd like more funtionality then you might be better off with K9 (free) mail app.

AllGamer said:
there is also TouchDown 2.0 (paid) for Android that is vastly improved over TouchDown 1.0
back to hotmail account, it works great with the Samsung push Email & IM program, i have all my hotmail accounts real & fake ones all running simultaneously.
but as metioined above if you'd like more funtionality then you might be better off with K9 (free) mail app.
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the samsung modified email app push works for you? I only checked with the stock firmware i had (JF3) and didn't have push for imap
btw: i'm personally not a lot in favor of importing stuff to gmail. that's embrace and extend at it's best: they read all data for their statistics. So ok it's a google os with a lot of such stuff but i'd rather separate some things when possible. (note:k9 is giving full satisfaction, just wondering about stock)

yes i'm using the Samsung Push Email as my main email app for all my email accounts, including google
4 accounts from hotmail
3 accounts from yahoo
12+ accounts from gmail
i hardly use my PC for email now since i got the phone, it's amazing!

Many thanks to all, one thing that Android doesn´t lack is user´s support. Since the N8 is delayed again I ordered the Galaxy S to give it a try.

I can respond in general that if you going to use Galaxy frequently with GPS, WIFI, Email then carry your charger or USB plug.
I found that even with light usage the battery needs to be charged everyday which I find it that I cant use it as my main phone as I travel a lot and I need more than 2 day with light usage of phone.

My Solution for Getting Gmail-compatible Contacts

Well, I haven't seen anyone successfully replace the NC contacts app with the generic Android one, but I found something almost as good ... if you're willing to pay.
If you download Touchdown for Exchange from the market (demo version, have to pay to use it for more than 30 days), you can set up your gmail address as an exchange account (login is the full e-mail address, server is m.google.com). It'll sync contacts w/the Exchange server ... and by default, sync those with your "phone's' contact list.
I've tried it, and confirmed autocomplete for contacts now works in gmail.
Some caveats:
* While Touchdown can handle more than one exchange account, it does so with "profiles." You switch between them -- and when you're in one profile, you'll only have access to the contacts from that one. I've got my phone set up with both my personal gmail and my office's google apps account ... so now I'm using Soocial to sync their contacts (non-ideal), and having touchdown just bring down the office stuff.
* You'll want to tweak your e-mail settings to minimize how much data you're having the device get. No need to pull down your inbox again if gmail already is. I have it set not to get message bodies, to sync the minimum amount of days, etc.
* It's a paid app, so you'll have to pony up the cash. And although I'd previously purchased a license key via the market on my phone, I'm not seeing the option for the license key (protected app unsupported by the current market hack?) showing up in the market for my NC. You can also enter a license key, but I'll be trying copying over my valid key from my phone and seeing what happens ...
Nice:
* It handles the calendar well as well ... so no need to bring in the Calendar.apk or CorpCalendar.apk if you don't want to.

Soocial non-ideal
Hi Wordsmith,
Just a quick question why you find Soocial to be non-ideal? I'm part of the Soocial team and we try to listen as much as we can to our users or potential users. Sounds like you are looking for a one stop place to have your address book synced. In what area do you find Soocial lacking now for it to be non-ideal.
Thanks for trying and using Soocial. ;-)

stefanfountain said:
Hi Wordsmith,
Just a quick question why you find Soocial to be non-ideal? I'm part of the Soocial team and we try to listen as much as we can to our users or potential users. Sounds like you are looking for a one stop place to have your address book synced. In what area do you find Soocial lacking now for it to be non-ideal.
Thanks for trying and using Soocial. ;-)
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I juist wasn't really looking to have these address books synced in the first place, but I AM looking to access both from my NC, as I do from my Android phone. Since I didn't have a great solution to that, I'm using your product to include all my contacts in both of my address books.

I've used touchdown for about a year now and it's never let me down. Best exchange program hands down. Thanks for the tip to use it to sync Google contacts!
FYI: you can sync only contacts if you choose and the server is m.google.com w/ssl in case anyone needs it.