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I have a Vodafone Magic, thus no Exchange capability. I tried TouchDown, couldn't get it to work at all, and was on the verge of flashing my ROM in order to install something with native Exchange support until I found this thread over on the Dream forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536727
They've stripped out the Mail.apk file from the MyTouch ROM (which they found over here in Sapphire land!). The APK file installs and runs fine on my Vodafone/Google branded model using Apps Installer. You'll have a new email program called "Work Email" which will happily run side by side with the GoogleMail app or indeed the crappy built in Email app. No contacts, no calendar, but proper Exchange push email in a clean, no frills interface.
I thought I'd share this with people because it's not in an obvious place where people on the Sapphire/Magic boards would find it easily (and also so I can track it down quickly myself in the future!)
As an aside, am I right in thinking that there are several HTC-branded Exchange clients for the Magic? We've got
* "Work Email", which is a separate app, and which comes with the MyTouch flavoured Magic devices. This is email only.
* a version of the main email app which supports ActiveSync along with the more usual POP3 and IMAP, and which I believe comes with Asian market Magics. This does Contacts and Calendar.
Thats too bad you couldn't get Touchdown to work. That little app is so wonderful. It has tons of features and even supports its own set of widgets for tasks, inbox and calender.
Yes, Touchdown works great for me too. I'm 99% sure that your problem is related to incorrect settings you made (I did the same). Check out the Touchdown Google group. The TD devs answer every question, most likely the same day. Have never seen such a close support.
http://groups.google.com/group/nitrodesk
Also follow this getting started pdf, in case you didn't know it:
http://www.nitrodesk.com/tddownloads/tdstartup.pdf
Cheers,
Derek (happy user, not an employee
This is fantastic. I have touchdown working (i had to use domain\username to get it to work) but it costs $29. This is free! if the calendar can be added then that would make it perfect.
Loccy said:
* "Work Email", which is a separate app, and which comes with the MyTouch flavoured Magic devices. This is email only.
* a version of the main email app which supports ActiveSync along with the more usual POP3 and IMAP, and which I believe comes with Asian market Magics. This does Contacts and Calendar.
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Just like to confirm something...does the Work Email app has activesync capabilities?
Wonder if you could help me with my touchdown config..
My company us running Ms Exchange 2003 SP 2 server with a self-signed certificates. From the advance config screen, I know that the activesync status is ready. i've also loaded the client cert. I also able to see my folders from my the choose folder screen, so I assume that I've the correct configuration.
The problem is that I can't get my inbox to sync but my sent-mail folder is sync and also I'm able to sent emails..
Any hint?
i'm no longer using touchdown, so i can't check the specific settings, but have you checked the settings to make sure it is checking for new emails automatically as they arrive rather than manually or after a certain period of time?
I finally get touchdown to work after emptying my inbox folder ..
I don't see why you're all talking about Touchdown when the topic was created about the native push email support.
Back on topic, I've been using the "work email" as it comes built into Cyanogens ROMs which are of course compatible with the Magic. It works very well and I'd much prefer to use this than an installed app.
remote provisioning
You may or may not be able to connect to your exchange server using "Work Email" app. If your exchange admins require that your phone has been remotely provisioned you won't be able to use this app.
Touchdown guys sorted this out. That's why I paid the money for a great app. Worth every cent.
It seems that number of people who need Exchange support (via work or school) is growing.
This thread will provide definitive information about status of Exchange on various builds and brief reviews of Exchange apps available on the market.
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Stuff to come:
Exchange on Eclair
2- Exchange on Tattoo
3- Exchange on Hero
Well, 'full' exchange works on tattoo and hero, that's for sure. Myn tried to port the Eclair mail app to donut but the were a lot of lib requirements that made the system slow.
Of course, by full here I mean mail, calendar, contacts. I don't really use tasks so I haven't tracked that between builds.
Email works fine with the "Work Email" app using MYN's Warm Donut Release 3. I haven't been able to test Calendar with anything. (haven't found a free app for that)
I tried the Work Email in Myn's build. Occasionally, I get "sync protocol error." I had to manually refresh the email time to time in order to receive the email.
I gave up using Work Email. Instead, I use Gmail to pull my work email via POP3. I found when I reply my work email in gmail app, it correctly uses my work email address to send instead of my gmail address (just like the desktop version).
I found this is a good compromise because I only need one email app running which saves battery. The only problem is that gmail pulls the work email every hour or so.
What, if any, is the difference between Push mail and exchange mail?
What service is delivering my Gmail to the phone almost instantaneously? My main email account was with Yahoo. But Yahoo Mail required a periodic refreshing(hourly or whatever). I paid Yahoo $10 to upgrade and then I forwarded my Yahoo Mail to my Gmail account.
I signed in with my Gmail account on Android. Now I get my emails almost instantly from both addresses.....I assume this is using the "Push mail" feature of Android and Gmail. What are the benefits of "exchange mail" and do you need to have your Email running from MS Outlook on a desktop to utilize "exchange mail"?
slow88lx said:
What, if any, is the difference between Push mail and exchange mail?
What service is delivering my Gmail to the phone almost instantaneously? My main email account was with Yahoo. But Yahoo Mail required a periodic refreshing(hourly or whatever). I paid Yahoo $10 to upgrade and then I forwarded my Yahoo Mail to my Gmail account.
I signed in with my Gmail account on Android. Now I get my emails almost instantly from both addresses.....I assume this is using the "Push mail" feature of Android and Gmail. What are the benefits of "exchange mail" and do you need to have your Email running from MS Outlook on a desktop to utilize "exchange mail"?
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Push mail is part of ActiveSync. Google licensed ActiveSync from Microsoft so that WinMo users could use the built-in ActiveSync on their phones to get their gmail and google calendar. With the work email app on android, you can choose to download mail items as they arrive which I assume is using the Microsoft 'push' functionality. I don't know how they work it with the gmail app.
I have been using Touchdown. It has worked great, very easy setup.
Syncs everything, mail, contacts, calender, tasks.
Mail, calendar, contacts work on mssmison's new eclair (non-sense) build.
mrkite38 said:
Mail, calendar, contacts work on mssmison's new eclair (non-sense) build.
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Moxier Mail is also a great solution. MUCH better interface than Touchdown IMO
mrkite38 said:
Mail, calendar, contacts work on mssmison's new eclair (non-sense) build.
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I tried taking the Corporate Calendar from that and running it in Warm-Donut but it won't install
Anybody have any luck getting Exchange connectivity to work with mssmision's 1.4 build on a vogue?
Data is working fine for me, but "unable to open connection to server" whenever I try to set it up.
Gmail sync seems to work fine.
Connecting to exchange 2003, with no SSL.
*seems like I got it working it working by messing around with turning SSL on and off, and re-entering various details. It's syncing now
I have had challenges receiving messages with 1.2-1.4, but original 1.1 ported over to 240 works very well.
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I tried taking the Corporate Calendar from that and running it in Warm-Donut but it won't install
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Corp calendar is only for 2.0.1 onwards, whereas Myn's s 1.6 - it won't run. Try moxier mail which is equally good.
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Email works fine with the "Work Email" app using MYN's Warm Donut Release 3. I haven't been able to test Calendar with anything. (haven't found a free app for that)
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does the 'work email' app only work for over the air connections? the exchange server at work only creates partnerships on 'hard connections'
thanks in advance
OK so i have tried moxier mail, work email, and roadsync, all three seem to use OTA (over the air) sync partnership only.
is there any app out there that uses USB connection to establish a partnership for exchange? or better yet, is there a WinXP driver someplace for the 'android phone' that i can install?
i have this one bump and i can go android 100% any help is greatly appreciated.
piperthedj said:
does the 'work email' app only work for over the air connections? the exchange server at work only creates partnerships on 'hard connections'
thanks in advance
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Not sure about that - I wouldn't think it matters if you could actually make a direct connection via usb...
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OK so i have tried moxier mail, work email, and roadsync, all three seem to use OTA (over the air) sync partnership only.
is there any app out there that uses USB connection to establish a partnership for exchange? or better yet, is there a WinXP driver someplace for the 'android phone' that i can install?
i have this one bump and i can go android 100% any help is greatly appreciated.
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usb networking doesn't work yet, so no.
piperthedj said:
OK so i have tried moxier mail, work email, and roadsync, all three seem to use OTA (over the air) sync partnership only.
is there any app out there that uses USB connection to establish a partnership for exchange? or better yet, is there a WinXP driver someplace for the 'android phone' that i can install?
i have this one bump and i can go android 100% any help is greatly appreciated.
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OK so i get USB is out for the time. got a suggestion from an other board to place the enterprise security certificate in the android folder.
more questions
1. will this replace the need to create a partnership via USB?
2. where should it go to even begin to attempt to see if it works?
thanks again
This thread is long dead, but just for the record - starting in FroYo (2.2), android has native support for email / calendar / contacts.
acegolfer said:
I tried the Work Email in Myn's build. Occasionally, I get "sync protocol error." I had to manually refresh the email time to time in order to receive the email.
I gave up using Work Email. Instead, I use Gmail to pull my work email via POP3. I found when I reply my work email in gmail app, it correctly uses my work email address to send instead of my gmail address (just like the desktop version).
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one thing folks need to understand is that there are some companies (the one i work for for example) who have every exchange security protocol imaginable in place and are not willing to reset for people. this produces problems as with this situation as active-sync is required for a hard line connection to install the security software on your device (3 min security time out- needs to be unlocked more often than typical) and using gmail as a redirector is not a viable option as those features are "not supported'
many of the 'exchange clients' on the market today rely on OTA delivery and security to be in place. IMO there is no true solution to exchange mail for android. there are fixes for calendar and contacts witch is a step in the right direction... but not a 1-fix-it-solution. i have been looking for one for over a year and there is nothing to be done till google and M$ get together and have a pow-wow or sort out what-is-what with security.
YES, there are many good attempts out there but none to help the fully secure.
On Cyanogen's ROM, there's 2 email apps. One called eMail and the other is Work Email. I want to sync my school email to the phone. So, I don't want it taking them off the server but just copying them. Anyway let me know which one I should be using, and maybe what's different about them?
I'd usually forward to my Gmail but my school filters out forwarded mail to Gmail.
You should use eMail for the task. Work Mail is to connect to exchange server.
My suggestion is K9 Mail. You can download from Market, and it has much more features than stock eMail app.
There is no free Mail app for Android I tried so far that I could say I like.
GMail app misses some important GMail functions, eMail app never ever shows me notifications even though I enabled them, Work eMail is exchange only with nearly no options and K9 has graphical, usability and speed issues.
Maybe I should try Touchdown Exchange for my University Mail (which uses exchange).
Are there any other Mail apps someone could recommend?
Sorry if this has been addressed already, but I thought it relevant so I'm posting it here. I've always used just my GMail account with the native app and it's worked fine so I never really bothered with my Hotmail account since it's only POP mail and I feel that having it poll my Inbox every 15mins drains the battery heavily. But I read this morning that they've just started rolling out the new Windows Live Hotmail Wave 4 today, which includes Exchange ActiveSync support for Push email and Account syncing for Calendar and Contacts.
As it's being rolled out in clusters, my account hasn't been upgraded yet. But I decided to try to set up my account to Push anyways and it seems like it's working fine.
If you want to do the same in the Stock Email App, Add a New Account. Then input your Email Address and Password then hit the Manual Setup button and Select Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync and use these settings:
Domain\Username: \username@hotmail.com
Password: password
Server: m.hotmail.com
Use Secure Connection (SSL): Yes
Accept all SSL Certificates: No
hit Next, then make sure the Email Check Frequency is set to Automatic (Push) and then just set your other sync options. (I've only synced mail since my contacts and calendar are synced with GMail).
I'm sure some things will change when my account actually gets the upgrade, but for now, it's basically all I need.
Full Disclosure: I'm on 2.2 and using the stock Email App for this. I don't know how this will impact 2.1 or if you're using K9 or Touchdown, etc. so feel free to post you results.
Just tried your settings with the 2.1 email app and it's no go.
Just tested...
...and it works! Running 2.2 (FRF50).
Even though I rarely use it and that it's mostly used for pretty useless mail it's still nice that it works, finally.
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Just tried your settings with the 2.1 email app and it's no go.
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Using stock 2.1 update 1, it works except there's no calendar option(should only available in 2.2), but the server is not very stable, need a few more retry to connect
Must be why it failed then.
2.2 you can add with out having to change any settings.
Do you know the setting to use in any other apps? The stock mail app doesnt allow showing html pictures, so i'd prefer to use k-9 or touchdown...
THANKS!!
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Sorry if this has been addressed already, but I thought it relevant so I'm posting it here. I've always used just my GMail account with the native app and it's worked fine so I never really bothered with my Hotmail account since it's only POP mail and I feel that having it poll my Inbox every 15mins drains the battery heavily. But I read this morning that they've just started rolling out the new Windows Live Hotmail Wave 4 today, which includes Exchange ActiveSync support for Push email and Account syncing for Calendar and Contacts.
As it's being rolled out in clusters, my account hasn't been upgraded yet. But I decided to try to set up my account to Push anyways and it seems like it's working fine.
If you want to do the same in the Stock Email App, Add a New Account. Then input your Email Address and Password then hit the Manual Setup button and Select Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync and use these settings:
Domain\Username: \username(at)hotmail(.dot)com
Password: password
Server: m(.dot)hotmail(.dot)com
Use Secure Connection (SSL): Yes
Accept all SSL Certificates: No
hit Next, then make sure the Email Check Frequency is set to Automatic (Push) and then just set your other sync options. (I've only synced mail since my contacts and calendar are synced with GMail).
I'm sure some things will change when my account actually gets the upgrade, but for now, it's basically all I need.
Full Disclosure: I'm on 2.2 and using the stock Email App for this. I don't know how this will impact 2.1 or if you're using K9 or Touchdown, etc. so feel free to post you results.
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Worked for me on 2.1 email app. Now, how do I get a widget to show me the unread count?
Finally MS do something useful to their antiquated service!
Tried it, but doesn't work (yet)
Do you get an e-mail when your account is upgraded?
Guess that is cool if it works, but you can only have 1 Exchange Activesync account on any device...that includes iPhone, WinMo etc...
Has this stopped working for anyone? I'm just getting 'unable to connect to server' now.
Same here, getting the "Unable to open connection to server."-message now.
The wierd thing is that yesterday I got the little yellow bar up top in Hotmail telling me to restart the browser to try the new version (which is what actually got me to try this) but nothing really changed, rollback?
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Has this stopped working for anyone? I'm just getting 'unable to connect to server' now.
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Can confirm this
techlogik said:
Guess that is cool if it works, but you can only have 1 Exchange Activesync account on any device...that includes iPhone, WinMo etc...
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Technically true, but two Push accounts can be accomplished on both Android & WinMo(windows live + exchange)
For us with X10's who are stuck with version 1.6 of Android,
What are the settings to get this working in K9? Has anyone successfully got it working with that mail prog?
Thanks!
Still not working here. Go Microsoft
Small update:
My Hotmail account was upgraded to Wave 4 this morning... Hotmail via Exchange? Still no go. It worked for about an hour back on 17th June, and nothing since.
Well it's all working again now
so its real push service?
if yes i need try this
i wa susing SEVEN but lack of html =(
Yes, it's proper push.
My first post. So Exciting
Has anyone who is running FROYO on their Captivate setup their Hotmail (or MSN or Live) email account through the exchange server settings (I think it's called a "Corporate" account in the new acccounts setup menu)? If so, are you receiving HTML email?
A few months ago, Hotmail began offering Exchange email services through Activesync, and it does work with my bone stock Captivate (syncs email, all folders, contacts and calendar), except the email is not HTML, and thus many emails become useless. I have researched this, and its a known problem with Hotmail, but I also read that it was supposed to be resolved in newer software versions, so I wondered if HTML Hotmail email was working in beta FROYO?
yeah, i was wondering the same thing
Well, a quick google search turned up this post on the droidforums: http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...mail-android-finally-good-way.html#post786175
I will follow the directions there and let you know how it goes. Hopefully it doesn't muck up my K9 settings. But that's what a backup is for!
Edit: Looks like it does work. Now I don't use Hotmail as my main email, I use my Gmail account. So I don't really have any contacts or calenders to test if they synced or not. As for everything else, you have the green light sir.
Thank you miztaken for your help. The link you sent is actually not fully accurate, as Activsync support does work with Android 2.1 (as I am currently using it on my stock Captivate) - it is just that HTML email does not work on Android 2.1 , but everything else does (calendar & contacts sync and email folder support).
So, did you get Hotmail HTML email to work with Froyo (through Exchange/Activesync / Add Account, Corporate) ?
Well it would be nice if it worked in the stock email app, but it doesn't. Just a bunch of hyperlinks. I'll try it through the K9 email app I use and try again.
Edit: For the life of my I can't get the damn thing to talk to the SMTP server for Hotmail on K9. I'll mess with it some more when I get more free time.
I haven't been able to get exchange HTML hotmail ever on an android... used 3rd party apps and nothing. Quite frustrating... i'm running on 2.2 and it syncs everything but no HTML.
If using pop3 it works. Exchange is a no-go.
Yeah, exactly, POP delivers perfect HTLM Hotmail email, but once you get used to how incredible exchange email is, it's hard to go back to POP.
I guess based on what snieves said, HTML Hotmail is a no go even on Android 2.2, but for the sake of further annoying myself, I'll test it this weekend by flashing the latest COG 2.2 BETA8 to my Captivate, and I'll report back. Unfortunately, if I cant get it to work, I think I'll move on to a WIN 7 phone.
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Yeah, exactly, POP delivers perfect HTLM Hotmail email, but once you get used to how incredible exchange email is, it's hard to go back to POP.
I guess based on what snieves said, HTML Hotmail is a no go even on Android 2.2, but for the sake of further annoying myself, I'll test it this weekend by flashing the latest COG 2.2 BETA8 to my Captivate, and I'll report back. Unfortunately, if I cant get it to work, I think I'll move on to a WIN 7 phone.
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You would seriously switch to a different platform just because of email? Why? Just make a Gmail account, have your Hotmail forwarded to the Gmail, and set your phone up for that Gmail account. Then you have push email with HTML support.
It is a little bit long winded, but it's not worth the switch just for email.
Gmail sux, so outdated and just absolutely hate their web client. hotmail is way better, right click menus, reply button is right there, not at bottom of thread like crappy gmail. And whats up with no standard html email client in android. So hate how they lock **** down so you have to use their services. K9 sux also, POP and IMAP, come on. Someone please make a proper FREE email client for android that dose it all. Think im gona go back to windows mobile.
hi, no news?
BUMP
Why is this still not working. Gmail works, hotmail connects and sync's fine by doesn't load HTML via 'corporate' but POP does load them - there must be a simple explaination and fix???
texwatson said:
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Why is this still not working. Gmail works, hotmail connects and sync's fine by doesn't load HTML via 'corporate' but POP does load them - there must be a simple explaination and fix???
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My understanding is that it has to do with the Exchange ActiveSync servers used by Hotmail. The version 2.5 EAS servers that they use don't technically support HTML. So when Android sees that the version doesn't support HTML it downloads the emails as plain text. The post also said that the iPhone will download HTML messages from the Hotmail EAS servers because its email program was written to ignore the EAS version number and force HTML d/l. I read this several different places, but here is one of those sources....
http://thecioblog.info/2010/09/01/hotmail-now-has-push-e-mail-contacts-calendar-synchronization/
It appears that HTML e-mail is only possible via iPhone and will be available on Windows Phone 7. ....Hotmail’s Exchange ActiveSync implementation decided only to use the Exchange ActiveSync 2.5 (Exchange Server 2003 SP2) protocol because they feel that’s the protocol that “most” devices with Exchange ActiveSync clients use. ... For most non-iOS and WP7, you will not be able to receive “native” HTML email at delivery on your device. This is because EAS 2.5 only supports plain text email sync. They could’ve also implemented Exchange ActiveSync 12.0, which does allow for HTML email. Somehow, iOS’s developers have programmed their EAS client such that it represents faithful HTML email for Hotmail. Overall, though, this is Windows Live’s crow to eat...
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Basically, to get HTML emails from Hotmail, either MS would have to upgrade their AES servers, or someone will have to figure out how Apple got the iOS email client to see Hotmail messages as HTML & duplicate it on Android.
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or someone will have to figure out how Apple got the iOS email client to see Hotmail messages as HTML & duplicate it on Android.
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Ok...so who is up for the challenge . I am currently trying out XDANDROID on my TP2 and am seriously considering making the switch as I am sure many are. This is a big draw back for those who have used WinMo for years and have everything tied into MS Live services.
Yes, I could make the big transition, but it just doesn't make sense that if iPhone can recieve HTML Hotmail via Exchange, no reason why Android can't.
Anyone know if it will be supported with Gingerbread?
give this a try. though it doesnt work for everyone it works for me. im the OP...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960269
its the samsung social hub and email deodexed. works great with hotmail and msn messanger for me on firefly in canada where it originated.
MSN / Hotmail HTML Email Works via MS Exchange Activesync !
So I did get rid of the captivate long ago and went back to a BB 9700, than a 9780. I got the itch again and just bought a Samsung Infuse yesterday. It took 4 tries to get it working, but Finally, I can confirm for sure, that on a 100% stock AT&T Infuse, MSN / Hotmail via Microsoft Exchange Activesync does come through as HTML email. The email initially comes through as text, but there is a buton that says "Load More Details", and when you seect that button, it loads the HTML version (and on the huge Infuse screen, looks incredible).
I am guessing that the stock Samsung email app on the Infuse is used on most/all Samsung phones. Here is what I did:
Accounts and Sync
Add Account
[ ] Microsoft Exchange Activesync
Enter you email address
Enter your password
NEXT
Domain\Username: \[email protected] (just enter your email address @msn or @Hotmail and make sure to put the \ before your email address)
Password: re type your password. I tried several times and I was only able to finish the setup if i retyped my password on this screen
Exchange server: m.hotmail.com (works regardless if you are @msn or @hotmail)
Check the Use Secure Connection (SSL)
And on the next screen, just select the options that are important to you.
It works perfectly for me.
DeliciousPHO said:
So I did get rid of the captivate long ago and went back to a BB 9700, than a 9780. I got the itch again and just bought a Samsung Infuse yesterday. It took 4 tries to get it working, but Finally, I can confirm for sure, that on a 100% stock AT&T Infuse, MSN / Hotmail via Microsoft Exchange Activesync does come through as HTML email. The email initially comes through as text, but there is a buton that says "Load More Details", and when you seect that button, it loads the HTML version (and on the huge Infuse screen, looks incredible).
I am guessing that the stock Samsung email app on the Infuse is used on most/all Samsung phones. Here is what I did:
Accounts and Sync
Add Account
[ ] Microsoft Exchange Activesync
Enter you email address
Enter your password
NEXT
Domain\Username: \[email protected] (just enter your email address @msn or @Hotmail and make sure to put the \ before your email address)
Password: re type your password. I tried several times and I was only able to finish the setup if i retyped my password on this screen
Exchange server: m.hotmail.com (works regardless if you are @msn or @hotmail)
Check the Use Secure Connection (SSL)
And on the next screen, just select the options that are important to you.
It works perfectly for me.
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Wow sir. You are a god among men. This worked PERFECTLY for me just now. I finally can have ALL my email accounts on my phone finally.
Edit: Don't see the "Load More Details" button on the stock email app.
I have now tried several different ROMS on my Infuse, and all of the Email Apps are more or less the same, and when you open a email, a gray button appears at the bottom of the screen that says " Load more details ". I would have to think this is always there, becuase when setting up the email account in the first place, it asks you how much (2K, 5K, 20K, etc...) you want to download per email. I believe I set mine to 2K. Anyway, when I click the load more details button, the complete HTML email appears after a few seconds. Nice.
Try Exchange mail with HTML, In-line replies