[Q] Hotmail HTML email via exchange on FROYO 2.2x ? - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My first post. So Exciting
Has anyone who is running FROYO on their Captivate setup their Hotmail (or MSN or Live) email account through the exchange server settings (I think it's called a "Corporate" account in the new acccounts setup menu)? If so, are you receiving HTML email?
A few months ago, Hotmail began offering Exchange email services through Activesync, and it does work with my bone stock Captivate (syncs email, all folders, contacts and calendar), except the email is not HTML, and thus many emails become useless. I have researched this, and its a known problem with Hotmail, but I also read that it was supposed to be resolved in newer software versions, so I wondered if HTML Hotmail email was working in beta FROYO?

yeah, i was wondering the same thing

Well, a quick google search turned up this post on the droidforums: http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...mail-android-finally-good-way.html#post786175
I will follow the directions there and let you know how it goes. Hopefully it doesn't muck up my K9 settings. But that's what a backup is for!
Edit: Looks like it does work. Now I don't use Hotmail as my main email, I use my Gmail account. So I don't really have any contacts or calenders to test if they synced or not. As for everything else, you have the green light sir.

Thank you miztaken for your help. The link you sent is actually not fully accurate, as Activsync support does work with Android 2.1 (as I am currently using it on my stock Captivate) - it is just that HTML email does not work on Android 2.1 , but everything else does (calendar & contacts sync and email folder support).
So, did you get Hotmail HTML email to work with Froyo (through Exchange/Activesync / Add Account, Corporate) ?

Well it would be nice if it worked in the stock email app, but it doesn't. Just a bunch of hyperlinks. I'll try it through the K9 email app I use and try again.
Edit: For the life of my I can't get the damn thing to talk to the SMTP server for Hotmail on K9. I'll mess with it some more when I get more free time.

I haven't been able to get exchange HTML hotmail ever on an android... used 3rd party apps and nothing. Quite frustrating... i'm running on 2.2 and it syncs everything but no HTML.

If using pop3 it works. Exchange is a no-go.

Yeah, exactly, POP delivers perfect HTLM Hotmail email, but once you get used to how incredible exchange email is, it's hard to go back to POP.
I guess based on what snieves said, HTML Hotmail is a no go even on Android 2.2, but for the sake of further annoying myself, I'll test it this weekend by flashing the latest COG 2.2 BETA8 to my Captivate, and I'll report back. Unfortunately, if I cant get it to work, I think I'll move on to a WIN 7 phone.

DeliciousPHO said:
Yeah, exactly, POP delivers perfect HTLM Hotmail email, but once you get used to how incredible exchange email is, it's hard to go back to POP.
I guess based on what snieves said, HTML Hotmail is a no go even on Android 2.2, but for the sake of further annoying myself, I'll test it this weekend by flashing the latest COG 2.2 BETA8 to my Captivate, and I'll report back. Unfortunately, if I cant get it to work, I think I'll move on to a WIN 7 phone.
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You would seriously switch to a different platform just because of email? Why? Just make a Gmail account, have your Hotmail forwarded to the Gmail, and set your phone up for that Gmail account. Then you have push email with HTML support.
It is a little bit long winded, but it's not worth the switch just for email.

Gmail sux, so outdated and just absolutely hate their web client. hotmail is way better, right click menus, reply button is right there, not at bottom of thread like crappy gmail. And whats up with no standard html email client in android. So hate how they lock **** down so you have to use their services. K9 sux also, POP and IMAP, come on. Someone please make a proper FREE email client for android that dose it all. Think im gona go back to windows mobile.

hi, no news?

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Why is this still not working. Gmail works, hotmail connects and sync's fine by doesn't load HTML via 'corporate' but POP does load them - there must be a simple explaination and fix???

texwatson said:
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Why is this still not working. Gmail works, hotmail connects and sync's fine by doesn't load HTML via 'corporate' but POP does load them - there must be a simple explaination and fix???
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My understanding is that it has to do with the Exchange ActiveSync servers used by Hotmail. The version 2.5 EAS servers that they use don't technically support HTML. So when Android sees that the version doesn't support HTML it downloads the emails as plain text. The post also said that the iPhone will download HTML messages from the Hotmail EAS servers because its email program was written to ignore the EAS version number and force HTML d/l. I read this several different places, but here is one of those sources....
http://thecioblog.info/2010/09/01/hotmail-now-has-push-e-mail-contacts-calendar-synchronization/
It appears that HTML e-mail is only possible via iPhone and will be available on Windows Phone 7. ....Hotmail’s Exchange ActiveSync implementation decided only to use the Exchange ActiveSync 2.5 (Exchange Server 2003 SP2) protocol because they feel that’s the protocol that “most” devices with Exchange ActiveSync clients use. ... For most non-iOS and WP7, you will not be able to receive “native” HTML email at delivery on your device. This is because EAS 2.5 only supports plain text email sync. They could’ve also implemented Exchange ActiveSync 12.0, which does allow for HTML email. Somehow, iOS’s developers have programmed their EAS client such that it represents faithful HTML email for Hotmail. Overall, though, this is Windows Live’s crow to eat...
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Basically, to get HTML emails from Hotmail, either MS would have to upgrade their AES servers, or someone will have to figure out how Apple got the iOS email client to see Hotmail messages as HTML & duplicate it on Android.

tdogz said:
or someone will have to figure out how Apple got the iOS email client to see Hotmail messages as HTML & duplicate it on Android.
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Ok...so who is up for the challenge . I am currently trying out XDANDROID on my TP2 and am seriously considering making the switch as I am sure many are. This is a big draw back for those who have used WinMo for years and have everything tied into MS Live services.
Yes, I could make the big transition, but it just doesn't make sense that if iPhone can recieve HTML Hotmail via Exchange, no reason why Android can't.
Anyone know if it will be supported with Gingerbread?

give this a try. though it doesnt work for everyone it works for me. im the OP...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960269
its the samsung social hub and email deodexed. works great with hotmail and msn messanger for me on firefly in canada where it originated.

MSN / Hotmail HTML Email Works via MS Exchange Activesync !
So I did get rid of the captivate long ago and went back to a BB 9700, than a 9780. I got the itch again and just bought a Samsung Infuse yesterday. It took 4 tries to get it working, but Finally, I can confirm for sure, that on a 100% stock AT&T Infuse, MSN / Hotmail via Microsoft Exchange Activesync does come through as HTML email. The email initially comes through as text, but there is a buton that says "Load More Details", and when you seect that button, it loads the HTML version (and on the huge Infuse screen, looks incredible).
I am guessing that the stock Samsung email app on the Infuse is used on most/all Samsung phones. Here is what I did:
Accounts and Sync
Add Account
[ ] Microsoft Exchange Activesync
Enter you email address
Enter your password
NEXT
Domain\Username: \[email protected] (just enter your email address @msn or @Hotmail and make sure to put the \ before your email address)
Password: re type your password. I tried several times and I was only able to finish the setup if i retyped my password on this screen
Exchange server: m.hotmail.com (works regardless if you are @msn or @hotmail)
Check the Use Secure Connection (SSL)
And on the next screen, just select the options that are important to you.
It works perfectly for me.

DeliciousPHO said:
So I did get rid of the captivate long ago and went back to a BB 9700, than a 9780. I got the itch again and just bought a Samsung Infuse yesterday. It took 4 tries to get it working, but Finally, I can confirm for sure, that on a 100% stock AT&T Infuse, MSN / Hotmail via Microsoft Exchange Activesync does come through as HTML email. The email initially comes through as text, but there is a buton that says "Load More Details", and when you seect that button, it loads the HTML version (and on the huge Infuse screen, looks incredible).
I am guessing that the stock Samsung email app on the Infuse is used on most/all Samsung phones. Here is what I did:
Accounts and Sync
Add Account
[ ] Microsoft Exchange Activesync
Enter you email address
Enter your password
NEXT
Domain\Username: \[email protected] (just enter your email address @msn or @Hotmail and make sure to put the \ before your email address)
Password: re type your password. I tried several times and I was only able to finish the setup if i retyped my password on this screen
Exchange server: m.hotmail.com (works regardless if you are @msn or @hotmail)
Check the Use Secure Connection (SSL)
And on the next screen, just select the options that are important to you.
It works perfectly for me.
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Wow sir. You are a god among men. This worked PERFECTLY for me just now. I finally can have ALL my email accounts on my phone finally.
Edit: Don't see the "Load More Details" button on the stock email app.

I have now tried several different ROMS on my Infuse, and all of the Email Apps are more or less the same, and when you open a email, a gray button appears at the bottom of the screen that says " Load more details ". I would have to think this is always there, becuase when setting up the email account in the first place, it asks you how much (2K, 5K, 20K, etc...) you want to download per email. I believe I set mine to 2K. Anyway, when I click the load more details button, the complete HTML email appears after a few seconds. Nice.

Try Exchange mail with HTML, In-line replies

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PUSH email w/o exchange ?

I'm using Outlook 2007 on my desktop with 3 POP email accounts, calendar, tasks, etc.
Is there a fairly simple way to sync and push email to my Tilt without having exchange server available ?
Thanks,
DLD
Direct push is for exchange 2003 & 2007 only, it has nothing to do with the outlook client. Why don't you setup the pop3 on your phone? On my phone I have 1 exchange account, and 2 pop3 accounts, and it works great.
You could always try Emoze - http://www.emoze.com/ - some people love it, some people hate it. Not tried it myself.
Other options include using Live Mail - which supports push in WM6, or setting up a Mail2Web account. You could then create a rule in Outlook to forward any received mail to your new address. You might be able to configure Live Mail to pull from other Pop3 mailboxes (I know Gmail does this, but I don't know about Live Mail). That way all three Pop accounts end up in your Live Mail bucket, and you sync just that one account with your phone.
Any good?
TimSykes said:
Direct push is for exchange 2003 & 2007 only, it has nothing to do with the outlook client. Why don't you setup the pop3 on your phone? On my phone I have 1 exchange account, and 2 pop3 accounts, and it works great.
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I could do that, but then I'd have to manually check for mail.
It would just be nice to have blackberry-like mail arrival.
DLD
you can tell the phone to check every 5 mins for emails? that's just as regular as blackberry. battery sapping tho. its in the advanced section of the messaging setup. you can do it on symbian nokias too.
dan13l said:
You could always try Emoze - http://www.emoze.com/ - some people love it, some people hate it. Not tried it myself.
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just installed it, and it appears to be working GREAT !
i wonder why this is free ?
DLD
Unless it is an unlocked version, there is a client ready to install on the Tilt that does the same thing. ExpressMail
WWI said:
Unless it is an unlocked version, there is a client ready to install on the Tilt that does the same thing. ExpressMail
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I like the concept of XpressMail (using SMS notification, therefore good for battery life), though I've had little luck getting push to work. It rarely, if ever, worked on my MPX220. I eventually accepted the fact that I'd simply have to do a send/receive when I was interested in seeing if there was new mail. Now that I have the Tilt, I'm having the same reliability issues. It HAS worked... I've had a couple messages show up all on their own, but for the most part, they don't. I've gone into the online configuration @ https://xpressmail.cingular.com/, and found that I had not only one, but two devices set up (my MPX220 set up twice). I deleted both of those, but for some reason can't seem to get the Tilt added. I can go through the process, but once I select it, it just never gets added to the list. The list of emails online is correct, so obviously the xpress mail app is properly getting the emails from my mail provider (comcast), but it's either not sending out the SMS messages, or they aren't being interpreted correctly by the phone.
I had a situation where i needed to syn with 2 exchange servers, and i didnt' want to run a desktop app.
Google for "seven beta" and get the OWA Out of office. You can set it up to sync only email and it works like push off of the OWA of exchange. If you don't have exchange they have a desktop version. Seven is the same people who develop the xpress mail for cingular.

No (real) push email even with Xpress Mail!!

After dealing with buggy versions of Windows Live (I got one version to work reasonably well with push, though it's spotty), I decided to try
Xpress Mail after reading that it has improved.
I set it up on my AT&T Fuze (stock ROM) to use my Gmail account and soft-reset. It's set up to do push by default. I sent myself three test e-mails and, of course, none of them came to my phone immediately. It took anywhere from five to 15 minutes for an e-mail to come through.
After I performed a manual send/receive I sent myself a couple more e-mails and NOTHING! They all came super late.
I know some folks on here are having no problems with their e-mail, but why the hell is it so hard for others to get our push e-mail going?
I've always been under the impression that "push" mail only works with an Exchange Server... and it works well with my business e-mails. I check gmail through IMAP which is an improvement overPOP3, but still needs to poll the server on a schedule.
diar said:
After dealing with buggy versions of Windows Live (I got one version to work reasonably well with push, though it's spotty), I decided to try
Xpress Mail after reading that it has improved.
I set it up on my AT&T Fuze (stock ROM) to use my Gmail account and soft-reset. It's set up to do push by default. I sent myself three test e-mails and, of course, none of them came to my phone immediately. It took anywhere from five to 15 minutes for an e-mail to come through.
After I performed a manual send/receive I sent myself a couple more e-mails and NOTHING! They all came super late.
I know some folks on here are having no problems with their e-mail, but why the hell is it so hard for others to get our push e-mail going?
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Push email is a service provided by the email carrier or vendor, exchange works very good with push because I use it on a daily basis. GMail (as far as I know) does not offer Push, what Xpress mail does is poll (via IMAP) to gmail and pushes the emails once Xpress has received it rather then having your phone do the polling.
Are you serieus? Why my w810i/k850i/w960i all used pushmail service from Gmail? So yes it have pushmail for shure, only MS don't like the idea of not using exchange for it and now we all have to suffer for that :S
diar said:
After dealing with buggy versions of Windows Live (I got one version to work reasonably well with push, though it's spotty), I decided to try
Xpress Mail after reading that it has improved.
I set it up on my AT&T Fuze (stock ROM) to use my Gmail account and soft-reset. It's set up to do push by default. I sent myself three test e-mails and, of course, none of them came to my phone immediately. It took anywhere from five to 15 minutes for an e-mail to come through.
After I performed a manual send/receive I sent myself a couple more e-mails and NOTHING! They all came super late.
I know some folks on here are having no problems with their e-mail, but why the hell is it so hard for others to get our push e-mail going?
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i'm using Mobipush(.com) with satisfaction.
Ciao
I have windows live set up on ROMeOS and I'm having no problem with push. Sometimes I send CABs to myself so i can get them on my phone and it always happens instantly.
jaapschaap said:
So yes it have pushmail for shure, only MS don't like the idea of not using exchange for it and now we all have to suffer for that :S
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If MS didn't like the idea of not using exchange... they wouldn't allow outlook to get mail from pop3/imap. If that's suffering you need to expand your horizons a bit... Sorry for the rant, just tired of anti-MS (not that I'm a big fan). Credit where credit is due.
I didn't read the RFC, but I don't think IMAP supports "push". There is a new proposal for Push-IMAP (P-IMAP) based on IMAP4... Android OS seems to support "push" Gmail and iPhones have some proprietary hooks to get "push" Gmail. So "push" Gmail is out there...
hchavarria said:
Push email is a service provided by the email carrier or vendor, exchange works very good with push because I use it on a daily basis. GMail (as far as I know) does not offer Push, what Xpress mail does is poll (via IMAP) to gmail and pushes the emails once Xpress has received it rather then having your phone do the polling.
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GMail (as far as I know) does not offer Push.....
Emoze - www.emoze.com offers not only G'Mail "pushed" but also access to G'Apps too!!!!!
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IMAP IDLE can be called Push-Mail.
The email client can stay in contact with the IMAP server, which tells the client that there is new mail.
Unfortunately, Outlook Mobile does NOT support IMAP IDLE.
ImapPusherService adds this functionality, but it's still an early version...
I'm not satisfied with Xpress email either. I've only added my main Gmail on so far for testing, but I have several more I want to monitor. With my Treo 680 I had no problem with email monitoring. During Mon-Fri daytime I monitor all my accts with thunderbird portable and therefore don't want email being picked up by the phone too. I set up the custom time settings in Xpress to not do this and yet, email still came through. Also it often picks up old mail - mail that was sent several days ago that I'd already read via POP on thunderbird, etc. I don't want to deal with this ridiculousness. I don't need instant Push per se, but at least the ability to set an account to check every five minutes. Would I be able to replace Xpress with Emoze, FlexMail, ProfiMail, or other email apps smoothly? As in replace it on my email tab easily?
I've had no issued with xpress mail. I'm actually participating in their beta program and have hotmail, yahoo and my work lotus notes mail pushing. A lot of times I will get mail on my htc touch pro before my Notes client on my laptop pulls in the mail.
The big ting I'm looking for (for my wifes phone) is a solution that can push contacts and calendar from yahoo, hotmail or gmail.
Lastly I wish one of these solutions would some how include a script or something triggering your VPN client. When I'm away from my desktop I need the connector to reconnect to the work mail server but it can't without me manually starting my vpn client.
Maybe I need to learn how to write a script to not own launch my VPN client but also to click on connect...
For everyone that claims Gmail doesn't offer push, if i connect the first time to it via imap on every latest model (later then w810i) it says 'gmail offers pushmail, activate it on this phone?'... it workes really great (on a SE phone) but MS don't like us to use other clients...
It just sucks, and of there was a real solution for this (a real program instead of ms outlook) it wil be used by almost everyone with wm i quess!
I wanted to throw out some names: I use Seven's Beta for my university (Yale) IMAP push. I also use Funambol to synchronize contacts, tasks, notes, calendar with Outlook.
Alternatives for Push Gmail include Emansio, Emoze, IMAP-pusher service, Mobipush.
I've posted on this issue extensively, so just do a search!
Okay so I need to know which is better:
Seven?
eMoze?
Mobipush?
Emansio?
I currently use seven and don't like that it can't set times to push the data (say every hour). It just leaves a time on to push. Like a time period. How is mobipush or emoze?
Kraize said:
Okay so I need to know which is better:
Seven?
eMoze?
Mobipush?
Emansio?
I currently use seven and don't like that it can't set times to push the data (say every hour). It just leaves a time on to push. Like a time period. How is mobipush or emoze?
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Be frank forget all above. there is 2 best option you can have.
1) get mail2web.com account: they offering free exchange service.( my opionen best for free only negative point.. the mails that you send hve the extension [email protected]
2) flexmail software:I think best email client but takes some memory. with that you can download you mail (gmail) IMAP and IDLE which is kinda pushmail. it take 1 minute to arrive on you device.
Bulldog said:
Be frank forget all above. there is 2 best option you can have.
1) get mail2web.com account: they offering free exchange service.( my opionen best for free only negative point.. the mails that you send hve the extension [email protected]
2) flexmail software:I think best email client but takes some memory. with that you can download you mail (gmail) IMAP and IDLE which is kinda pushmail. it take 1 minute to arrive on you device.
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Seriously? Why? I have a yahoo account. And I've been using SEVEN so far, and it gets my mail faster than my mail counter on my yahoo widgets can count.

Get Your Live (Hotmail, Live, MSN, etc.) Email Without Using Live

Microsoft FINALLY opened up the POP3 ports for Hotmail, Live, MSN, etc. accounts. That means that we can get our email on our devices again without installing that stupid Live program.
This is especially great for me because the newer version of the Live Mobile program was crashing my Manila and freezing my email tab so I had to uninstall it.
I just set up my hotmail account and it worked immediately.
Here's what you need to do:
1. Create a new mail account
2. Don't put the real domain. For example, for hotmail, I put "hormail" because the device will automatically tell you to go to live.com to set it up. You can change your email address after you put in the server settings.
Here are the settings:
POP server: pop3.live.com (Port 995)
POP SSL required? Yes
User name: Your Windows Live ID, for example [email protected]
Password: The password you usually use to sign in to Hotmail or Windows Live
SMTP server: smtp.live.com (Port 25)
Authentication required? Yes (this matches your POP username and password)
TLS/SSL required? Yes
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Do all of this and click "Finish" then go back in and change your email server back to what it should be.
Click Send/Receive and you will get your mail.
Thanks to Lifehacker.com for the news.
http://lifehacker.com/5151551/hotmail-enables-pop3-for-us-users
This is great! Thanks for posting this, now I can free up a few megabytes on my device. I have always hated that I couldn't check my email on older devices that didn't support the live application, like my Mobilepro 900C. I was never a fan of the live app anyway, as I could never choose what happened to my mail on the servers if I deleted it on my device. Thanks,
Dave
How to get *all* sent emails to show up
Thanks for the heads-up regarding this. I'd heard Hotmail were going to offer a more standard form of POP/SMTP access one of these days. I've configured my Kaiser accordingly and it shows all my received emails fine and emails I've sent from my Kaiser fine but emails I've sent from my desktop PC do not show up in sent emails on the Kaiser. Is this what others are getting as well? How do I get all of my sent emails to show up as well?
Yea, only emails sent from the device will show up.
Glad to see other people find this useful as well.
You're welcome.
thank you so much
thank you so much i have wanted to have both of my hotmail accounts on my device for ages.
josefcrist said:
thank you so much i have wanted to have both of my hotmail accounts on my device for ages.
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No problem. I'm really glad to have my hotmail back also.
For some reason, I can't get this working in Thunderbird on my laptop though or even on Outlook.
-haze- said:
No problem. I'm really glad to have my hotmail back also.
For some reason, I can't get this working in Thunderbird on my laptop though or even on Outlook.
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hmm well good luck with that.
Synchronizing folders
I'm can setup my MSN e-mail accounts using the method mentioned earlier.
However, none of the my personal MSN e-mail folders show up for me.
They do if I set up the MSN e-mail using HTTP protocol (and use Adrian HTTPMail Provider) instead of POP3 protocol.
Does anyone know how to get the personal e-mail folders to show up and synchronize using POP3?
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Microsoft FINALLY opened up the POP3 ports for Hotmail, Live, MSN, etc. accounts. That means that we can get our email on our devices again without installing that stupid Live program.
This is especially great for me because the newer version of the Live Mobile program was crashing my Manila and freezing my email tab so I had to uninstall it.
I just set up my hotmail account and it worked immediately.
Here's what you need to do:
1. Create a new mail account
2. Don't put the real domain. For example, for hotmail, I put "hormail" because the device will automatically tell you to go to live.com to set it up. You can change your email address after you put in the server settings.
Here are the settings:
Do all of this and click "Finish" then go back in and change your email server back to what it should be.
Click Send/Receive and you will get your mail.
Thanks to Lifehacker.com for the news.
http://lifehacker.com/5151551/hotmail-enables-pop3-for-us-users
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Man good looking for this -haze-. I read so many post here & there but yours did it for me!! Yea Yea..
best info ever
Thanks for posting this information. I have been searching for just this trick for quite a while and works like a charm A+
info is good but..
i cant still done this on my handy.
oh iam so silly

Definitive Thread - Exchange on Android

It seems that number of people who need Exchange support (via work or school) is growing.
This thread will provide definitive information about status of Exchange on various builds and brief reviews of Exchange apps available on the market.
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Stuff to come:
Exchange on Eclair
2- Exchange on Tattoo
3- Exchange on Hero
Well, 'full' exchange works on tattoo and hero, that's for sure. Myn tried to port the Eclair mail app to donut but the were a lot of lib requirements that made the system slow.
Of course, by full here I mean mail, calendar, contacts. I don't really use tasks so I haven't tracked that between builds.
Email works fine with the "Work Email" app using MYN's Warm Donut Release 3. I haven't been able to test Calendar with anything. (haven't found a free app for that)
I tried the Work Email in Myn's build. Occasionally, I get "sync protocol error." I had to manually refresh the email time to time in order to receive the email.
I gave up using Work Email. Instead, I use Gmail to pull my work email via POP3. I found when I reply my work email in gmail app, it correctly uses my work email address to send instead of my gmail address (just like the desktop version).
I found this is a good compromise because I only need one email app running which saves battery. The only problem is that gmail pulls the work email every hour or so.
What, if any, is the difference between Push mail and exchange mail?
What service is delivering my Gmail to the phone almost instantaneously? My main email account was with Yahoo. But Yahoo Mail required a periodic refreshing(hourly or whatever). I paid Yahoo $10 to upgrade and then I forwarded my Yahoo Mail to my Gmail account.
I signed in with my Gmail account on Android. Now I get my emails almost instantly from both addresses.....I assume this is using the "Push mail" feature of Android and Gmail. What are the benefits of "exchange mail" and do you need to have your Email running from MS Outlook on a desktop to utilize "exchange mail"?
slow88lx said:
What, if any, is the difference between Push mail and exchange mail?
What service is delivering my Gmail to the phone almost instantaneously? My main email account was with Yahoo. But Yahoo Mail required a periodic refreshing(hourly or whatever). I paid Yahoo $10 to upgrade and then I forwarded my Yahoo Mail to my Gmail account.
I signed in with my Gmail account on Android. Now I get my emails almost instantly from both addresses.....I assume this is using the "Push mail" feature of Android and Gmail. What are the benefits of "exchange mail" and do you need to have your Email running from MS Outlook on a desktop to utilize "exchange mail"?
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Push mail is part of ActiveSync. Google licensed ActiveSync from Microsoft so that WinMo users could use the built-in ActiveSync on their phones to get their gmail and google calendar. With the work email app on android, you can choose to download mail items as they arrive which I assume is using the Microsoft 'push' functionality. I don't know how they work it with the gmail app.
I have been using Touchdown. It has worked great, very easy setup.
Syncs everything, mail, contacts, calender, tasks.
Mail, calendar, contacts work on mssmison's new eclair (non-sense) build.
mrkite38 said:
Mail, calendar, contacts work on mssmison's new eclair (non-sense) build.
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Moxier Mail is also a great solution. MUCH better interface than Touchdown IMO
mrkite38 said:
Mail, calendar, contacts work on mssmison's new eclair (non-sense) build.
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I tried taking the Corporate Calendar from that and running it in Warm-Donut but it won't install
Anybody have any luck getting Exchange connectivity to work with mssmision's 1.4 build on a vogue?
Data is working fine for me, but "unable to open connection to server" whenever I try to set it up.
Gmail sync seems to work fine.
Connecting to exchange 2003, with no SSL.
*seems like I got it working it working by messing around with turning SSL on and off, and re-entering various details. It's syncing now
I have had challenges receiving messages with 1.2-1.4, but original 1.1 ported over to 240 works very well.
seanmcd72 said:
I tried taking the Corporate Calendar from that and running it in Warm-Donut but it won't install
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Corp calendar is only for 2.0.1 onwards, whereas Myn's s 1.6 - it won't run. Try moxier mail which is equally good.
seanmcd72 said:
Email works fine with the "Work Email" app using MYN's Warm Donut Release 3. I haven't been able to test Calendar with anything. (haven't found a free app for that)
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does the 'work email' app only work for over the air connections? the exchange server at work only creates partnerships on 'hard connections'
thanks in advance
OK so i have tried moxier mail, work email, and roadsync, all three seem to use OTA (over the air) sync partnership only.
is there any app out there that uses USB connection to establish a partnership for exchange? or better yet, is there a WinXP driver someplace for the 'android phone' that i can install?
i have this one bump and i can go android 100% any help is greatly appreciated.
piperthedj said:
does the 'work email' app only work for over the air connections? the exchange server at work only creates partnerships on 'hard connections'
thanks in advance
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Not sure about that - I wouldn't think it matters if you could actually make a direct connection via usb...
piperthedj said:
OK so i have tried moxier mail, work email, and roadsync, all three seem to use OTA (over the air) sync partnership only.
is there any app out there that uses USB connection to establish a partnership for exchange? or better yet, is there a WinXP driver someplace for the 'android phone' that i can install?
i have this one bump and i can go android 100% any help is greatly appreciated.
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usb networking doesn't work yet, so no.
piperthedj said:
OK so i have tried moxier mail, work email, and roadsync, all three seem to use OTA (over the air) sync partnership only.
is there any app out there that uses USB connection to establish a partnership for exchange? or better yet, is there a WinXP driver someplace for the 'android phone' that i can install?
i have this one bump and i can go android 100% any help is greatly appreciated.
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OK so i get USB is out for the time. got a suggestion from an other board to place the enterprise security certificate in the android folder.
more questions
1. will this replace the need to create a partnership via USB?
2. where should it go to even begin to attempt to see if it works?
thanks again
This thread is long dead, but just for the record - starting in FroYo (2.2), android has native support for email / calendar / contacts.
acegolfer said:
I tried the Work Email in Myn's build. Occasionally, I get "sync protocol error." I had to manually refresh the email time to time in order to receive the email.
I gave up using Work Email. Instead, I use Gmail to pull my work email via POP3. I found when I reply my work email in gmail app, it correctly uses my work email address to send instead of my gmail address (just like the desktop version).
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one thing folks need to understand is that there are some companies (the one i work for for example) who have every exchange security protocol imaginable in place and are not willing to reset for people. this produces problems as with this situation as active-sync is required for a hard line connection to install the security software on your device (3 min security time out- needs to be unlocked more often than typical) and using gmail as a redirector is not a viable option as those features are "not supported'
many of the 'exchange clients' on the market today rely on OTA delivery and security to be in place. IMO there is no true solution to exchange mail for android. there are fixes for calendar and contacts witch is a step in the right direction... but not a 1-fix-it-solution. i have been looking for one for over a year and there is nothing to be done till google and M$ get together and have a pow-wow or sort out what-is-what with security.
YES, there are many good attempts out there but none to help the fully secure.

Hotmail Syncing

Sorry if this has been addressed already, but I thought it relevant so I'm posting it here. I've always used just my GMail account with the native app and it's worked fine so I never really bothered with my Hotmail account since it's only POP mail and I feel that having it poll my Inbox every 15mins drains the battery heavily. But I read this morning that they've just started rolling out the new Windows Live Hotmail Wave 4 today, which includes Exchange ActiveSync support for Push email and Account syncing for Calendar and Contacts.
As it's being rolled out in clusters, my account hasn't been upgraded yet. But I decided to try to set up my account to Push anyways and it seems like it's working fine.
If you want to do the same in the Stock Email App, Add a New Account. Then input your Email Address and Password then hit the Manual Setup button and Select Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync and use these settings:
Domain\Username: \username@hotmail.com
Password: password
Server: m.hotmail.com
Use Secure Connection (SSL): Yes
Accept all SSL Certificates: No
hit Next, then make sure the Email Check Frequency is set to Automatic (Push) and then just set your other sync options. (I've only synced mail since my contacts and calendar are synced with GMail).
I'm sure some things will change when my account actually gets the upgrade, but for now, it's basically all I need.
Full Disclosure: I'm on 2.2 and using the stock Email App for this. I don't know how this will impact 2.1 or if you're using K9 or Touchdown, etc. so feel free to post you results.
Just tried your settings with the 2.1 email app and it's no go.
Just tested...
...and it works! Running 2.2 (FRF50).
Even though I rarely use it and that it's mostly used for pretty useless mail it's still nice that it works, finally.
prettyboy85712 said:
Just tried your settings with the 2.1 email app and it's no go.
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Using stock 2.1 update 1, it works except there's no calendar option(should only available in 2.2), but the server is not very stable, need a few more retry to connect
Must be why it failed then.
2.2 you can add with out having to change any settings.
Do you know the setting to use in any other apps? The stock mail app doesnt allow showing html pictures, so i'd prefer to use k-9 or touchdown...
THANKS!!
theletterj said:
Sorry if this has been addressed already, but I thought it relevant so I'm posting it here. I've always used just my GMail account with the native app and it's worked fine so I never really bothered with my Hotmail account since it's only POP mail and I feel that having it poll my Inbox every 15mins drains the battery heavily. But I read this morning that they've just started rolling out the new Windows Live Hotmail Wave 4 today, which includes Exchange ActiveSync support for Push email and Account syncing for Calendar and Contacts.
As it's being rolled out in clusters, my account hasn't been upgraded yet. But I decided to try to set up my account to Push anyways and it seems like it's working fine.
If you want to do the same in the Stock Email App, Add a New Account. Then input your Email Address and Password then hit the Manual Setup button and Select Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync and use these settings:
Domain\Username: \username(at)hotmail(.dot)com
Password: password
Server: m(.dot)hotmail(.dot)com
Use Secure Connection (SSL): Yes
Accept all SSL Certificates: No
hit Next, then make sure the Email Check Frequency is set to Automatic (Push) and then just set your other sync options. (I've only synced mail since my contacts and calendar are synced with GMail).
I'm sure some things will change when my account actually gets the upgrade, but for now, it's basically all I need.
Full Disclosure: I'm on 2.2 and using the stock Email App for this. I don't know how this will impact 2.1 or if you're using K9 or Touchdown, etc. so feel free to post you results.
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Worked for me on 2.1 email app. Now, how do I get a widget to show me the unread count?
Finally MS do something useful to their antiquated service!
Tried it, but doesn't work (yet)
Do you get an e-mail when your account is upgraded?
Guess that is cool if it works, but you can only have 1 Exchange Activesync account on any device...that includes iPhone, WinMo etc...
Has this stopped working for anyone? I'm just getting 'unable to connect to server' now.
Same here, getting the "Unable to open connection to server."-message now.
The wierd thing is that yesterday I got the little yellow bar up top in Hotmail telling me to restart the browser to try the new version (which is what actually got me to try this) but nothing really changed, rollback?
Rusty! said:
Has this stopped working for anyone? I'm just getting 'unable to connect to server' now.
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Can confirm this
techlogik said:
Guess that is cool if it works, but you can only have 1 Exchange Activesync account on any device...that includes iPhone, WinMo etc...
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Technically true, but two Push accounts can be accomplished on both Android & WinMo(windows live + exchange)
For us with X10's who are stuck with version 1.6 of Android,
What are the settings to get this working in K9? Has anyone successfully got it working with that mail prog?
Thanks!
Still not working here. Go Microsoft
Small update:
My Hotmail account was upgraded to Wave 4 this morning... Hotmail via Exchange? Still no go. It worked for about an hour back on 17th June, and nothing since.
Well it's all working again now
so its real push service?
if yes i need try this
i wa susing SEVEN but lack of html =(
Yes, it's proper push.

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