I run Win Mobile 6.5 (not sure if that matters) and when I have key lock set to "all but power" the phone won't stay asleep, but if I turn it to the next setting "only when its lockeD" it stays asleep...What gives? Any ideas. I doubt its hardware related just for the fact...it doesn't happen when the one setting is changed. Thanks everyone!
I am open to anything that reassigns the power key or auto locks when the power is turned off
Win Mobile 6.5 on Kaiser -- Checked battery too and took out sim card and SD card.
Update:
Flashing to Win Mobile 6.1 to see if problem exists there...
Update 2:
Yup, still happens in 6.1...Any ideas? I can't think of any reason...It's odd, if the system locks the device, it doesn't turn on...But I don't see what could be wrong...Is it possibly a radio issue?
Fix (Sorta)
If you have this issue, the easiest fix was to install S2U2 and set the timeout to 5seconds.
It works great for me. Problem solved and it adds security to my phone.
Related
Hi, I have discovered that Direct Push e-mail is causing the wizard to power on at certain intervals and for me at least was causing significant power drains under crossbow. Here are 2 fixes.
1. This is for those that use an exchange server and/or direct push email.
-Locking the device stops the wizard powering on and still allows use of direct push email.
2. Those that don't wish to lock their device and don't use direct push email.
-Change the following Registry values:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\ActiveSync\
HeartbeatIncrement DWORD: 0
InitialHeartbeat DWORD: 0
MinHeartbeat DWORD: 0
MaxHeartbeat DWORD: 0
Reset
Hopefully this will work for you guys it did for me, no power on all night.
EDIT: Sorry after longer testing No. 2 appears not to work however I still think it has something to do with Activesync and Direct Push E-mail. The settings reset themselves after soft reset.
It works!
Confirmed. Locking the device via the Today screen plug-in prevents the undesired power ups.
I am using a small program called Device Lock with the Suspend option. I set Button 4(Hold) to Device Lock. Sometimes it wakes up immediately after suspending, but I can press the power button and it stays off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=261277
I discovered this yesterday also.
He means using the today screen plugin to lock it, not just having buttons locked except power in case you weren't aware of that.
No wonder I never had this problem. I use batterystatus to lock my screen all the time. Isn't the lock nice? Very convinent. My only hope is if there is anyway to unlock it with one hard button.
Oh. I was using the Lock in the control panel set to lock after 0 minutes of idle so when I pressed power it would power down and lock.
I'll have to find a better way to lock.
it didnt work....
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it didnt work....
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using the batterystatus, not the lock in the control panel.
i meant the regedits, it didnt fix the problem...i dont like to lock my phone when not in my pocket...
i hit the lock button on the today screen and i watch it turn on and off every minute... still... it didn't help ...
I wonder how did faria fix it in his ROM.
any update? wokring solution ?
Faria has the only known solution to this but is refusing to share that knowledge by looks of things, maybe so he can forces users to use his own cooked ROM or something...
the only working solution i have seen was the one rusigor suggested and that was taking the device password off. and im believer because it worked for me. so im sticking with that. Also i noticed that my battery is lasting like alot lot lot lot lot lot lot longer now. before i would go to bed with the phone at 80% battery and when i would wake up it would be like at 30. The last couple nights i would go to bed with it at 59 and woke up and it was at 55. I was shocked. so thats why im sticking with this method.
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Faria has the only known solution to this but is refusing to share that knowledge by looks of things, maybe so he can forces users to use his own cooked ROM or something...
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I hope it's just a case of him not knowing of this thread! Has anyone PM'd him?
I will if no one has yet.
Karl
Sorry meant to update this, fix has been around for a little while now.
Untick Turn off backlight for both battery and mains power and this will cure the problem however you may still have automatic power offs.
I don't use push, nor do I have an Exchange server configured. I also had a problem with automatic power-ups. I found that having the device configured to display the owner info screen when it is switched on caused it to power up on its own shortly after it was switched off.
Getting rid of the owner info display on power-up did the trick for me.
I'd love to know how those two things are connected.
I found a solution for me
I also think is more related with the screen light as I used the WM6 MB and i put the screen auto off after 30 sec, and it was waking up very frequently. I completly removed the screen light auto off and now my phone never wakes up alone (just when it should be =D).
Hope it helps!
There seems to be a problem with the Kaiser. After finishing a phone call on the Kaiser the backlight goes off and stays off and I cannot access the Start menu. I can access all other functions but backlight stays off and one still cant get into the Start menu from anywhere on the screen. I have to press the power off button quickly once and then wait a second, press it again to be able to access the start button or the light to come on. This is definitely a bug in the tytn II and I hope HTC is doing something about this.
I have experienced the same thing.
After the phone call. I did not hang up.
Instead the person at the other end hangs up and I tries to navigate away then the phone appears to lock up.
Could not turn the phone off either. Had to wait until the phone turned itself off. Once restarted everything ok...
sudo009 said:
I have experienced the same thing.
After the phone call. I did not hang up.
Instead the person at the other end hangs up and I tries to navigate away then the phone appears to lock up.
Could not turn the phone off either. Had to wait until the phone turned itself off. Once restarted everything ok...
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I noticed this as well...
pretty crazy.
Hmm I haven't that problem. Danish HTC TyTN II
Do you folks have the password set? I have heard that that can cause this problem. Try to turn off password checking.
Hi @ All, any news about that problem?
I have a solution
I had the same problems and after installing all the ROM's and still have the same problems, I found out that the problem is not in the ROM it is in the 3G network, disable the 3G network and set it to GSM and all the problems will disappear.
This was nothing to do with 3g.
It was a pre-programmed fast sleep setting that was flawed. Download Kaiser Tweak and turn off all the sleep during call options.
Difference in memory in use
I have problem with my TyTN II, I don´t know why, but when I control the state of the memory in use, it seems to be 112 MB in use and 19,4 MB free. But when I control every item (Applicationdata, Confimgr, ProgramFiles etc., even including hidden files) and calculate total then it seems to be only 45 MB in use. Can anyone explain this
thanks
Moving from the Touch to the Kaiser I love the 3G performance and the built-in GPS however there are two MAJOR issues I have that did not exist on the Touch and I cannot understand why the Kaiser with double the memory suffers from this.
1- Erratic scrolling in IE even after the page has loaded ?
2- My other problem (and this is more serios) is that the device does not turn off after the 1 min settings I set in the Power settings. I do not set the backlight dimming settings. I just want to phone to off itself after 1 min. It does not and if I forget to turn it of it just drains the Batt.
Again, the Touch did not have either of these flaws.
Any help with the power issue would be great.
Thanks in advance
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Moving from the Touch to the Kaiser I love the 3G performance and the built-in GPS however there are two MAJOR issues I have that did not exist on the Touch and I cannot understand why the Kaiser with double the memory suffers from this.
1- Erratic scrolling in IE even after the page has loaded ?
2- My other problem (and this is more serios) is that the device does not turn off after the 1 min settings I set in the Power settings. I do not set the backlight dimming settings. I just want to phone to off itself after 1 min. It does not and if I forget to turn it of it just drains the Batt.
Again, the Touch did not have either of these flaws.
Any help with the power issue would be great.
Thanks in advance
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There is a known issue that I and others have been reporting regarding scrolling in PIE. We have not yet identified a way to resolve this. However we have discovered that :
Opera Mini a java midlet based application works well and super fast. A great application for straightforward browsing. No frills but good viewing options and due to the way it works may reduce data charges for some and will certainly impress with its speed. (Freeware)
http://www.operamini.com/beta/
OR
Opera Mobile. Works well and fast, no scrolling issues and actually a pretty good full spec.browser. Not free but has a trial period to test it out. Iuse this and am very pleased with it.
http://www.opera.com/download/mobile/?man=Windows+Mobile+5.0+Pocket+PC&ver=8.65&heading=Windows%20Mobile%205/6%20PPC,%20Professional,%20Classic&img=/img/products/mobile/platform/865.gif&extra=
As for your switch off problem, that I think is just a settings issue, but I'd need to check.
Mike
Regarding turning off after 1 minute.
I suggest you go back into:
Start?Settings>system>Power icon>advanced tab
Uncheck turn off device after 1 minute, click OK.
May be best to perform a soft reset.
Now go back and recheck "turn off device" after 1 minute
Perform a test to see if the one minute turn off is now working, and report back here on success or otherwise.
Mike
mikechannon said:
Regarding turning off after 1 minute.
I suggest you go back into:
Start?Settings>system>Power icon>advanced tab
Uncheck turn off device after 1 minute, click OK.
May be best to perform a soft reset.
Now go back and recheck "turn off device" after 1 minute
Perform a test to see if the one minute turn off is now working, and report back here on success or otherwise.
Mike
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Hi Mike,
Thanks for the feedback. I unchecked the power setting to turn off after 1 min, power cycled the phone and set it again. The phone does NOT power off.
I power cycled one more time and still i does not turn off.
Can you please verify this behavior ?
Nothing is checked in the backlight options and ONLY "Turn off device if not used for" 1 min is checked under "On battery power".
The phone never turns off on its own.
Thanks again,
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Hi Mike,
Thanks for the feedback. I unchecked the power setting to turn off after 1 min, power cycled the phone and set it again. The phone does NOT power off.
I power cycled one more time and still i does not turn off.
Can you please verify this behavior ?
Nothing is checked in the backlight options and ONLY "Turn off device if not used for" 1 min is checked under "On battery power".
The phone never turns off on its own.
Thanks again,
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I tested this before making the above post. I tried different time settings and it powered off at the set time. So I can only think that either some application is keeping it "alive" ie. not "idle" so the time trigger never starts or this is something that will only be cured with a hard reset.
If you have killed all running applications and it still will not auto sleep then hard reset may be the only option. If you have full backup facilities this should be a painless operation, though if you reinstall the backup and the problem is caused by an installed application then the problem will return on backup installation.
Mike
The only app that is running ( that I can see ) is Activesync due to push email. This was the case with the Touch so I do not think it is Activesync that is keeping the phone from turning off.
Thanks anyway for your efforts...
Found the problem!
Well it looks like Activesync (DirectPush) is the problem.
If I kill ActiveSync the phone turns itself off at the established timeout. If ActiveSync is running (with DirectPush active) it does not turn off. Again, on the Touch this was not the case so it is not proper behavior.
Any ideas or reg settings to correct this?
Thanks.
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Well it looks like Activesync (DirectPush) is the problem.
If I kill ActiveSync the phone turns itself off at the established timeout. If ActiveSync is running (with DirectPush active) it does not turn off. Again, on the Touch this was not the case so it is not proper behavior.
Any ideas or reg settings to correct this?
Thanks.
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There may be, but I at least don't know them. There are reg keys that tell the device to suspend but keep an application running (sometimes known as "unattended mode". However we know yours does suspend when AS is not running. I just wonder whether there are any "sync" settings within your push mail client that may be running a sync too frequently.
Another, but more remote possibility is that when AS is active it may also be servicing other apps, like weather apps, time sync etc - so perhaps just worth checking there are no other less obvious apps running. AS can also rather stupidly attempt to sync with the PC even if you are not connected to it. So perhaps double check any AS settings.
Mike
I played with the ActiveSync settings and the only way the phone turns off while AS is running is if I disable DirectPush. On manual sync or periodic sync the phone turns off at the proper timeout.
Any idea where DirectPush settings are ?
Thanks
I've this same problem NOW, but I've working over a month with activesync and pushemail active without this issue!!!!! (My configuration was also "as items arrive")
The only thing I can say is that today i suddently saw my exchange settings had been dissapeared without doing anything, then I reconfigured the exchange setting again, and from that moment my kaiser does not suspend if "as items arrive" is selected!
I have the same problem with the phone not switching off, though on mine it doesn't matter whether direct push is on or off, it still won't power down.
Edit: Now that's typical. As soon as I submitted the above and started playing with it, it started working...
My screen will be darker after 10 sec.
I can set this again to 5 min. and after a few on and offs it will be back at 10 sec.
This is very annoying!
I thought i had found the problem, but it wasn't.
HKCU/ControlPanel/Backlight/BatteryTimeout setting up to 300. This is 5 minutes. It counts in seconds. But this isn't working.
Please can anyone help me?? A lot more have this problem.
I have the same problem, anyone the solution?
same problem here. I have call the helpdesk of htc they told me to do a hard reset. But it doesn't work for me. They also told me to return the phone when the problem stays afther a hard reset
vipinholland said:
same problem here. I have call the helpdesk of htc they told me to do a hard reset. But it doesn't work for me. They also told me to return the phone when the problem stays after a hard reset
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i had the same "problem" and indeed, after a hard reset the backlight stays on 2 minutes as my heart wishes. i also use the the option to "auto adjust backlight. i have to admit it is strange...i don't see the connection.
KukurikU said:
i had the same "problem" and indeed, after a hard reset the backlight stays on 2 minutes as my heart wishes. i also use the the option to "auto adjust backlight. i have to admit it is strange...i don't see the connection.
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yes, my backlight stay's also on for 1 minute(my setting)...hope the sound problem is also gone..
It is a bug in keypad locking
I think the backlight problem only occurs if you are using the keylock feature by pressing the end call button for a couple of seconds.
You can try it out yourself:
1) set your backlight settings to whatever you want and verify it works as intended.
2) Now just normally switch of your phone (not locking the keypad) by pressing the power button, switch back on and verify that the setting is still correct.
3) Then do a soft reset and again verify that the setting is correct.
4) Now lock the keypad by using the end call button (press a couple of seconds until locked).
5) Now unlock the phone and check the backlight settings: they are put back on the default values!! I guess it is a bug in the keypad lock functionality.
Btw, step 2) and 3) are just for verification, you may skip these to reproduce the bug.
Actually, if you use the lock feature of the device (for instance by enabling AutoDeviceLock in the registry, see tweak 18 in the stickied Diamond tweaks thread) the settings are also reset to the default values.
Is this the case for everybody? Or is it just me that it seems the locking feature contains bugs.
FYI...I had this issue from the start when I was running the Asia HK 1.34 ROM image. I flashed it using HardSPL and put the Europe 1.35 image on the device and have not had the problem since. All backlight values work normally as of now....I recommend this if your device is the HK ROM and you're having the issue. Not sure if it'll work for you, but it worked for me....
The solution is simply
You have to change DWORD LockLevel present in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\BackLight\LockLevel\ to 0 (zero)
And now your time of standby don't change anymore
hi all
Sometimes when i restart my device it fails to ask for my PIN, then fails to load manilla. So i end up with a standard windows home screen but no network connection (because a pin was not entered)
running TLR3 but i have not read of anyone else experiancing this in the TLR thread.
any ideas?
cheers
rumpleforeskin said:
hi all
Sometimes when i restart my device it fails to ask for my PIN, then fails to load manilla. So i end up with a standard windows home screen but no network connection (because a pin was not entered)
running TLR3 but i have not read of anyone else experiancing this in the TLR thread.
any ideas?
cheers
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Ì have a simmular problem, happens sometimes with 1.93 rom. It seems that tf3d gets focus too fast . I'll bet the pin screen is still running in the background but it 's not possible to select it anymore (taskmanager). Only solution i found is disable and enable the phone in comm manager to trigger the pin screen again.