Sorry, maybe a stupid question.
Is it not possible to flash one of the HTC ROM's onto X1?
Nope, it will not work.
I figured that much, but can someone on here maybe explain? From what I could see it has the same processor as X1 etc.
LFCFredda said:
Nope, it will not work.
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Hero/Dream/Magic are running android, not windows mobile....they are working on making an android version for the X1.
Regards,
WC
HTC said Sense UI will be avail on windows mobile as well...but in the meantime theres quite a few tread people porting linux android over to windows and xperia u should read up on that
jtoyz2 said:
HTC said Sense UI will be avail on windows mobile as well...but in the meantime theres quite a few tread people porting linux android over to windows and xperia u should read up on that
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I know people are trying to get android onto X1 and hence my question. Why is it not possible to just use the android rom (with some mods) from the HTC phones as most of the hardware seems similar?
stevenvm said:
I know people are trying to get android onto X1 and hence my question. Why is it not possible to just use the android rom (with some mods) from the HTC phones as most of the hardware seems similar?
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I guess we just have to wait to see what the amazing cooks come up with!
stevenvm said:
I figured that much, but can someone on here maybe explain? From what I could see it has the same processor as X1 etc.
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it's basicly misc Hardware stuff.
CPU might be the same same jeah, but evyerthing else is not. neither the chipsets for the keyboard are, nor is the chipset for making phonecalls, nor the memory and so on.
it's liek trying to fit a Mazda Elektronics into a ford ka. maybe u can squeeze it in but im sure it wont work since the electronic doesnt know any part of the new car.
achmed20 said:
it's basicly misc Hardware stuff.
CPU might be the same same jeah, but evyerthing else is not. neither the chipsets for the keyboard are, nor is the chipset for making phonecalls, nor the memory and so on.
it's liek trying to fit a Mazda Elektronics into a ford ka. maybe u can squeeze it in but im sure it wont work since the electronic doesnt know any part of the new car.
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i notice some fatal mistakes in your setence
achmed20 said:
it's basicly misc Hardware stuff.
CPU might be the same same jeah, but evyerthing else is not. neither the chipsets for the keyboard are, nor is the chipset for making phonecalls, nor the memory and so on.
it's liek trying to fit a Mazda Elektronics into a ford ka. maybe u can squeeze it in but im sure it wont work since the electronic doesnt know any part of the new car.
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electronic doesn't need to know the car. because in computer systems, there exist another layer between the electronic and the car.
it's called the kernel. hardware abstraction layer.
it'll work... just need someone free enough to make it work.
no further explanations please! lets pretend it is magic
/me swings the magic wand
ps: jeah i know .. im king of typos and abstract examples ^^
Is there anybody working on this right now?
Would love a Hero/etc android ROM on my X1, definitely. Just got a Hero and I'm loving it to bits.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kovsky Linux
i think so.such as a computer with Windows or linux or sth. else ..
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Who are interested to see Linux also on this device?
The process should be very similar to Hermes implementation, so we can follow their steps.
Interesting
is it possible to do dual boot ? how will phone functionality etc work?
kimusan said:
is it possible to do dual boot ? how will phone functionality etc work?
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answering myself: yes it is, which means that I am in! I would love to help with the investigation for getting linux on this device. Looks like the new haret (01/01/2007) works well on trinity. I have successfully telnetted to it and executed several different commands.
kimusan said:
Looks like the new haret (01/01/2007) works well on trinity. I have successfully telnetted to it and executed several different commands.
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Register a machine number for it.
Are the trinity internals known as good as the Hermes ?
cr2 said:
Register a machine number for it.
Are the trinity internals known as good as the Hermes ?
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What do you mean by Register a machine number? where do I do this? As far as I know, the internals are pretty well known. We have pictures that identifies all the relevant chips, and schematics for a lot of the chipset.
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What do you mean by Register a machine number? where do I do this?
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http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/
As far as I know, the internals are pretty well known. We have pictures that identifies all the relevant chips, and schematics for a lot of the chipset.
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Do you have a link ?
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http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/
Do you have a link ?
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It is in one (or more) of the threads in the trinity forum here at xdadevelopers. I do not have the direct links here, but have seen them recently. it is most likely in oone of the "GPS or not GPS" threads.
I have now registered the HTC Trinity/P3600
Very
interesting
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Do you have a link ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285090
See first attachment, Mainboard.zip contains front and back pictures of Trinity's mainboard, with all chipsets.
Look here for the schemes:
http://www.solopalmari.com/content/view/2471/38/
page 2 and 3.
How is the state of art in porting linux on this device?
And on Hermes? Does the kernel boot?
With wm6 do you have to hard reset every time you try to boot the kernel?
Maybe Pof can answer these questions.
Thanks
@renatostore: cr2 and Kevin2 are the guys working on it, come into #htc-linux at freenode irc network.
On hermes the kernel boots, and we can load a minimal initrd using haret. On trinity i haven't checked lastly.
You don't need to hard reset afer booting linux, that was only on WM2003
Hi
How about linux on trinity? i've been on the irc channel but didn't get any answer... a few months passed... i'm in hope!
I don't have high hope on that. Heard it's very difficult to debug stuff in Linux due to the lack of a hardware kb....
why do you want linux on this phone? you are not going to be able to cross-compile apps over and I don't see a useful app in linux that wm6 doesn't have already for a phone.
Hi...
Still interested...
Had someexperience with h36xx and h38xx/h39xx series HP/Compaq PDA's and familiar linux, and it would be very cool to have some of this running on the HTC hardware too...
Anyone already had a ROM cooked up with kernel/basic apps?
Any idea what will/does work and what won't/doesn't? like phone, camera, wifi, gprs, bluetooth, ...
Thanks!
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Any idea what will/does work and what won't/doesn't? like phone, camera, wifi, gprs, bluetooth, ...
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Check the hermes wiki.
trinity is the hermes without keyboard, minor differences are unimportant
The future of Linux on PDAs is Andromeda. Don't expect this to be implemented on existing devices - Andromeda will be a means to deliver new devices to the market.
While you will most likely need a new phone for Andromeda, you will gain a complete platform with stylish and working applications, so you will be able to actually use the device right from the start.
Have fun!
1.Does diamond support Windows mobile 7 ?
2.Do U Think htc will release 8/16 GB Diamond?
what a random question. thres no evicence for either, but i doubt the storage upgrade. theyve done that with the advantage a year on, and everyone thinks its a waste of money.
but wm7, if its not officail, id guess the cooks will port it
Rory
I wouldn't rule out the storage upgrade. If HTC want the Touch Diamond to compete with the iPhone, they will have to do storage upgrades. Also, because I'm buying it, you know a better version is going to be released - it's my bad luck. (My Touch is a good example).
This may be a silly question but has anyone actually opened up their Diamond to see if it is possible to increase the Storage Memory? eg could it be possible to add/swap out the 4GB for more?
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Another sh*t thread...
This forum is becoming full of these kind of crap
HastaS
im surprised...only one S at the end of Hastas? What does that even mean =\?
I demand more SSSS's!
Also upgrade your rom =(
Also...Ive been wondering the WM7 thing too...who knows =\?
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im surprised...only one S at the end of Hastas? What does that even mean =\?
I demand more SSSS's!
Also upgrade your rom =(
Also...Ive been wondering the WM7 thing too...who knows =\?
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Ehehehehehe
The "S" are proportional to how happy I am...less "S" means "less happy"
I also have upgraded my ROM, only the signature isn't actualized
Regarding WM7...only with the help of a crystal ball...
HastaSSSS
i know...i need a crystal ball...this magic 8 ball isnt working =(
What does "Hastas" mean =P?
s1rl4ncel0t said:
Another sh*t thread...
This forum is becoming full of these kind of crap
HastaS
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lol so true, this forum need some moderators badly.
s1rl4ncel0t said:
Another sh*t thread...
This forum is becoming full of these kind of crap
HastaS
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Well, bring out some usefull stuff then instead of crying about these kind of topics.
billybobjones said:
i know...i need a crystal ball...this magic 8 ball isnt working =(
What does "Hastas" mean =P?
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Hasta = Bye
Hastas = "Byes"
Yzord said:
Well, bring out some usefull stuff then instead of crying about these kind of topics.
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If you make a search on this forum (not only in Diamond section), you would see, that I've done a big share of contributions, namely on the Trinity ...
So, next time, instead of bragging, make a search first, and don't feed these non-sense threads...
HastaSSSS
There is evidence for WM7, just knowing M$, whatever we know now will be completely different from what is released, and it'll be released two years late...
I suspect HTC will release newer versions with more storage, but there is no evidence for that ATM.
isnt the touch pro basically the diamond with upgrades and sd slot for up to 64gb (so far)?
if any wm device is upgradeable, the diamond is a sure fire even if not officially supported
s1rl4ncel0t said:
If you make a search on this forum (not only in Diamond section), you would see, that I've done a big share of contributions, namely on the Trinity ...
So, next time, instead of bragging, make a search first, and don't feed these non-sense threads...
HastaSSSS
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I am sorry? You are crying about these topics while you feed these topics by yourself? Just point the finger to yourself next time.
Diamond Hardware Modding
deaddavey1 said:
isnt the touch pro basically the diamond with upgrades and sd slot for up to 64gb (so far)?
if any wm device is upgradeable, the diamond is a sure fire even if not officially supported
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finally a decent response to my question. Now who has taken a look under the hood of their Diamond to see for eaxmple where on the board the 4GB memory chip is and how accessible it is. Is there any space under the cover to connect up another memory card...
The Touch Pro is too big and I don't need a keyboard. The only thing stopping me from getting a Diamond right now is the 4GB memory...
deaddavey1 said:
isnt the touch pro basically the diamond with upgrades and sd slot for up to 64gb (so far)?
if any wm device is upgradeable, the diamond is a sure fire even if not officially supported
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SDHC only supports up to 32gb... they'll come out with a new standard for 64gb chips I bet.
s1rl4ncel0t said:
Another sh*t thread...
This forum is becoming full of these kind of crap
HastaS
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its all noobs wanting to learn...bless them
Is anybody working at 3d driver from kaiser?
i currently have a LOT of my more techy geek friends looking at the kaiser to see what they can do, but they have had the phone for a month and have history of writing drivers and right now they don't look promising. maybe others with more software/drivers programming background are working at it but i wouldn't expect anything anytime soon. the phone has been out for a year and no one anywhere has written drivers for it
In htc daimond rom are 3d drivers?
d112 said:
Is anybody working at 3d driver from kaiser?
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What about them??? We sure as hell aint gettin them
livefastdiefun87 said:
What about them??? We sure as hell aint gettin them
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not sure what your talking about.. they work great!
d112 said:
Is anybody working at 3d driver from kaiser?
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What application are you running or needing to run on a kaiser requires 3D graphics???
I don't think WoW is getting a PPC port any time soon.
shogunmark said:
not sure what your talking about.. they work great!
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Obviously so, the newer 6.1 roms (most of them) have improved video.
shogunmark said:
not sure what your talking about.. they work great!
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lmao ... hahaha ..
3d drivers .. yeah they are stunt racing right now. I'll let them know you want them as soon as they come home. Just to let you know: they are expensive so be prepared to pay the price they demand.
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Obviously so, the newer 6.1 roms (most of them) have improved video.
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hahahaha ... please stop my stomach is hurting 'cuz of laughter ... lol
Whats The Problem??
Had to add my P.O.V
My Kaiser does exactly what I want it to do now it is upgraded. (Thanks L26 vers 5)
As far as drivers for 3d go, tom tom works perfectly fine, videos play top notch, worms world party is faultless, quake plays nice enough. Who needs anything more?
The Kaiser is a fantastic little device when you consider what it does for the money. A short while ago I was getting fed up with video playback and the odd internet problem when scrolling. But as far as I am concerned, my little baby is wonderful and out performs any of the previous devices I have owned since the newer rom updates for 6.1 have become the norm and have been tweaked by the generosity of all those who stand infront of a hot over (EVEN when on vacation.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396882
Nicholas
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lmao ... hahaha ..
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while it may seem a little funny... ever wonder why the gxmark on cooked roms when from the 500-700's to 1500+???
im not saying its the complete solution.. but its a [email protected] good start...
shogunmark said:
while it may seem a little funny... ever wonder why the gxmark on cooked roms when from the 500-700's to 1500+???
im not saying its the complete solution.. but its a [email protected] good start...
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as good as it is its still not the same as having fully functioning drivers
shogunmark said:
while it may seem a little funny... ever wonder why the gxmark on cooked roms when from the 500-700's to 1500+???
im not saying its the complete solution.. but its a [email protected] good start...
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i think i need to clairfy myself:
mark i thought u were being sarcastic when you wrote that you were running the drivers so i took it as a joke and cracked up if you were, however, serious than my apologize didn't mean to blow off what you were saying as a joke.
Hope this clears up the air. i have gxmark on leos rom that i am running right now and it is definitley an improvement in the rom, however i don't think its the full drivers that we all had our hopes for
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I'm very surprised because tuxhero said yesterday that the blackstone has compass harware:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4304713&postcount=833
bad link... you cant link it with dots: )
Not sure but some sources say that we have it.
daguerrotipo said:
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I'm very surprised because tuxhero said yesterday that the blackstone has compass harware:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=833
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Your link does not work
Fallen Spartan said:
Your link does not work
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4304713&postcount=833
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Not sure but some sources say that we have it.
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"1. Today i came to know that our Blackstone has Compass Hardware too and we have code for it too."
Seems to me that you were sure?
Moony1987 said:
"1. Today i came to know that our Blackstone has Compass Hardware too and we have code for it too."
Seems to me that you were sure?
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Ya but not tested it to be so sure
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Ya but not tested it to be so sure
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Ahh righto
I think we do have.
Thats the shame 'bout HTC (besides da poor quality of hard- and software): they setup ONE hardware and make 5 PDAs with slighty changed details. they were never interested in making good hardware.. everytime they took something away the previous model had... now, they do have android and are able to clone nearly the same device just with another OS.
in commercial aspects, this makes sense.... but as consumer I can only think of it as a pain in the neck. my old universal has a high res display, a 3,5mm audioconnector, a well made keyboard and a fast cpu... years ago... a shame it is the size of a brick .
If someone would mad it possible to use the Compass HW with WinMo i would gladly set a bounty of 50$.
Goal would be a little App to proof that it ist working plus the sourcecode for other Devs.
Does anyone join in?
its probably another 'tv out' scenario...
basically the chipset has the tech but other required hardware / software is not present hence the features can never be used.
why on earth HTC cripple devices like this is boggling.....if the HD had been released with TV-out (which the qualcomm chipset supports) & a hw compass (to be confimed) it would have levelled the competition.....
i am sure their marketing strategy has good reasons for not doing...but as said earlier from the consumers point of view its a pain in the butt...especially considering some of us are locked in 24 month contracts.!! so wont be purchasing other handsets even if we wanted too.
lets hope some clever devs find a way to unlock these features!! (if possible)
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its probably another 'tv out' scenario...
basically the chipset has the tech but other required hardware / software is not present hence the features can never be used.
why on earth HTC cripple devices like this is boggling.....if the HD had been released with TV-out (which the qualcomm chipset supports) & a hw compass (to be confimed) it would have levelled the competition.....
i am sure their marketing strategy has good reasons for not doing...but as said earlier from the consumers point of view its a pain in the butt...especially considering some of us are locked in 24 month contracts.!! so wont be purchasing other handsets even if we wanted too.
lets hope some clever devs find a way to unlock these features!! (if possible)
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I disagree your argumentation:
Developers here wrote drivers to implement TMC and RDS into the features of the Blackstone. HTC hasn´t done it yet.
HTC seems to leave possible feature unused. Maybe to save time for their developers.
The old topic of a missing video driver is another example for that.
Draque:the_Plaque said:
If someone would mad it possible to use the Compass HW with WinMo i would gladly set a bounty of 50$.
Goal would be a little App to proof that it ist working plus the sourcecode for other Devs.
Does anyone join in?
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50$ from me for unlocking the feature + another 100$ if anyone makes it work with Google Maps + another 100$ if someone makes an augmented reality app like Wikitude (Android).
Only if it's done before the release of the HTC Leo
It's a AK8976A chip
well i would chip in $50 as well .. if it worked !!
KlausFindus said:
It's a AK8976A chip
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is the same that dream phone?
Byes
haha, did anyone think that they mite have released the phone in haste, or maybe they did it on purpose to allow the release of the HD pro to include such features, along with a 128GB internal memory (i wish).
ghosty_uk said:
haha, did anyone think that they mite have released the phone in haste, or maybe they did it on purpose to allow the release of the HD pro to include such features, along with a 128GB internal memory (i wish).
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Sometimes happen... It's true that more with anothers brands (apple), I can remember Ipod touch, iphone, wifi in the macs....
may be this time no but is possible.
Byes
I've read the same thread from Tuxhero and I have to see it before I believe it. The only thing we've got is a blanket statement that he has read it somewhere. Someone else created slight confusion on this site before with similar statements.
Not saying that he's lying (in fact, I hope he's right), a source would help. Until then, I'm not getting my hopes up.
Im guessin they didnt include alot of features cause when the phone was released whoever ws going to buy it would buy it anyway, and when competitors (Iphone3gs) release phones with features like the compass thing etc , htc can easily release newer phones with the same features ... sort of like having it ready on earlier models so when they need to release it they can quickly!
My guess
Can someone share the info related above with the topic
MeTinnn said:
Can someone share the info related above with the topic
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Windows Phone 8 is made for multi core processors phones
It can be backported and with the correct kernel modifications coild easily run on simgle core. Because the hd7 has a powerfull cpu
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We can run MacOSX on the PC, so nothing is impossible, but I don't believe that someone will do such hard work without good reason.
maya79 said:
We can run MacOSX on the PC, so nothing is impossible, but I don't believe that someone will do such hard work without good reason.
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This requires to have the working ROM Microsoft used for testing and development...
Its is a well known fact that WP8 was tested on the HD7, someone discovered the log about the "work in progress" of WP8 and the log clearly stated that the testing phone was the HD7.
Now, about the beta they used? Well getting our hands on that ROM, it's a challenge someone must face... (a real hacker, not those script kids, posers)