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Hey Chaps,
Just thought earlier today i'd have a go at upgrading my phone with the new HTC firmware for my Vodafone Kaiser. First i tried it on it's own only to find the 'vendor' had blocked the upgrade, then i ran the HARDSPL software, when it rebooted my phone to the tri-colour screen i stopped pressing enter on the batch file and ran the HTC upgrade again! ... success - sort of; the upgrade got to 15% and stopped with a connection error (my usb's dodgy i think), then when the phone rebooted to the tri-colour boot loader it'd a) no longer accept the HTC Rom (vendor thing again) and b) become irritatingly broken.
Is it possible to flash an older vodafone rom to the device? if so, where can i find such a beast. Or does anyone know of any devilish ways to put the new rom on using the bog standard bootloader?
Thanks in advance big time to any clever phone experts who can de-brick my... er... brick
Dan.
your supposed to install hardspl before upgrading it if you try it on its own it will brick it at least thats what i heard from the stickies
azazelx, he has hardSPL installed, anyway.
@JimmyJangle: flash via microSD card. [url="http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserSDFlash" URL]Read here.[/url]
You need winrar to extract file nbh from the shipped ROM.exe.
Hmm, i don't think i do have HardSPL actually installed,
When i saw the tricolour screen come up with different version information I stopped that batch file that was installing HARDSPL (impatiently) and started the HTC one (which failed at 15%). So now i (think) i have a phone with no firmware and the bootloader says:
KAIS130
SPL-1.56.0000
CPLD=8
I reckon if i can find a vodafone made rom the bootloader'll let me install it.
Any idea where i could find one?
What is ur orginal shipped ROM?
Your solution now is flash back the orginal ROM by using microSD card method I mentioned above, install HardSPL succesfully, then flash whatever ROM you prefer.
Hey Nghiem,
Thanks for the help, that link doesn't go anywhere though.
Also, wouldn't i need the original rom from somewhere in order to do that?
Thanks,
Dan
where did you buy the phone e.g vodafone, orange, etc...so I can tell you the original ROM? Because you phone CID is not unlock, hence you must flash the back the shippied one.
Get the WM 6.1 Vodaphone official here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365058
Hi,
I got the phone from Vodafone in the UK.
It had WM5 on it... erm, that's it.
I've just beem trying to load original voda roms back on to it but it's not happy - i don't know if they really are the originals though, one says 'reconstructed'.
Dan
Actually, that was the rom i tried and it came up with the Vendor ID error.
Dan.
Link on post #6 is the official not reconstructed. How about download directly from Vodafone website? It's strange when you have carrier ID block even with its ROM. Also, try reconstructed ROM listed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1586817&postcount=2
Search for mtty, see if it can help you out.
MTTY saved the day!
Only 3 hours of my life lost!
Thanks,
Dan
Cheers. Don't forget to flash HardSPL and read the wiki before doing anything.
I've been looking now on how to unlock my orange uk kasier for about 2 weeks. I'm going to use Olipro's or jockyw2001's unlocker BUT in order to do this I need the original radio version of the phone which is 1.27.14.32 I've looked everywhere for this and just cant find it and reading some threads it seems like I'm not the only one. Can some one please help.
As I see it without this radio version I cant unlock my phone and therefore cant add other roms as the phone may sim lock and as this is a works phone I doubt I'll be able to ring myself to get the unlock code and it may raise my firms eye brows when I ring them to do it if I 'balls up' and as I've only had it 2 weeks i understand orange wont provide the codes for a miniumum of 3 months
Please dont flame me, I've read hundreds of posts but just cant seem to find this ( or is there another way round this )
I had the same radio ROM on my Kaiser (Orange branded)
I used Radio ROM 1.27.12.32.
All went well & the device runs fine (no sound loss issues that some people had when trying 1.27.14.09)
If you did have ROM compatability issues you could upgrade to the WM6.1 ROM after unlocking.
I think all these files are available in the wiki.
check the rom development section and the wiki, you should be able to find a list of radio only flashes including that one.
Thanks Mr B, Cosmic Blue believe me I have looked and this radio is not anywhere.
Mister B when you 'upgraded' your phone could you still get notification of answer phone messages left on your phone, I've 'upgraded' a hermes before which was on orange and never got this function back unless i put a genuine orange rom on it ?
Hard to answer that one. I had my orange answer phone canceled via orange services prior to flashing.
Your other option is to dump the rom from your device & extract the radio to use for reflash
I think you'll find the notification is in the main rom not the radio.
I remember a few people having problems after flashing cooked roms.
Had some posts on this & a cab file with the required dll to fix it.
Might be worth doing a bit of searching on this.
Mister B said:
I had the same radio ROM on my Kaiser (Orange branded)
I used Radio ROM 1.27.12.32.
All went well & the device runs fine (no sound loss issues that some people had when trying 1.27.14.09)
If you did have ROM compatability issues you could upgrade to the WM6.1 ROM after unlocking.
I think all these files are available in the wiki.
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Everything you wanted to know about radios
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
Thanks Mister B, found the orange cab by Rabdo so nearly there now
Denco7 I'd checked that one already and no 1.27.14.32 which is what I'd really like as I know it works well on my tytn ii.
guess I'll have to look into dumping it then
1.27.14.32
I have that radio version (1.27.14.32) in my Orange UK TyTN II. I've dumped the ROM but I can't figure out how to reconstruct just the radio! If someone can help me I will will upload it.
I also had the same radio 1.27.14.32 and could not find it for download but after some reading I came across the Radio Mister B mentions above 1.27.12.32 and it worked fine (including the answer phone notification) with the Dutty rom I was using I think it was the (DualTouch V3). I've since upgraded to the L26 V9 rom with radio 1.58.25.17 and its still working fine, although I haven't had the chance to check answerphone notification.
Firstly...I'm with 3 in Australia
Ok, bought a TYTN II off ebay some months ago now from a Hong Kong dealer (that'll learn me) and it seems to not work with the 3G network here in Australia. The phone is always EDGE roaming and whenever it switches to 3G I can't send or receive SMS messages.
I've done some reading around and found that maybe I need to flash the ROM of the phone to an Australian one so that the phone will work properly. I found a thread on Whirlpool and someone there posted a link to this ROM for another user:
www.mediafire.com/?0jt1cwyx61g
Is that the ROM I want? If so, how do I go about flashing my phone with this ROM to make it work?
Can anyone help me??
You're more than likely having issues with the radio that came with the phone. Go to the ROM development forum, read how to unlock, install HardSPL, etc.. and then choose either one of the ROMs that come with a new radio available: NATF, Hyperdragon, Dutty's, etc... or look at one of the threads that show how to install a new radio. I'm not going to make any ROM recommendations, because it's really a matter of personal taste and how the ROM feels to you. For me personally, I've settled on T.i.R vk8 WWE build 19971. And I have radio version 1.58.25.17.
Hey dude,
congrats on the kick-ass new phone.
To help you with your prob, you'll have to signup and login to HTC E-Club for Australia, then download and flash the latest 3 ROM. Its the only way to ensure you have the correct inbuilt three network settings, there was a cab floating around a while back but it didn't include planet3 connectivity - only mobile internet.
look for this one :
HTC TyTN II WM6.1 ROM code for Hutchison ‘3’ Network customers
ROM version: 3.29.861.0
ROM date: 05/15/08
Radio version: 1.65.16.25
Protocol version: 25.83.40.02H
Date: 2008-06-02 Category: ROM Upgrade
I found the ROM development page and the list of radios that relate to the specific ROM's match the ones I already have (note: I already flashed my phone using the one in the link I provided in my first post).
I went and registered for HTC E-Club and went to download the WM6.1 ROM u mentioned Sanchez and when I entered the Serial Number it says the ROM is unsuitable for my phone. Is this because it is NOT an Australian phone?
Would this ROM actually work on my phone and would I be able to get a copy of it from somewhere else?
yeah, its not the actual ROM so much as the stuff Three bundle within that you need.
I'm aka Dr.Nerdlinger on whirlpool, a guy I recommended this to didn't have any problems, seemed to make his US Tilt into an Aussie Three TyTnII.. Havent tried it myself as Im already three branded.
http://www.andrewjstevens.com/2008/06/a-new-att-tytn-ii-tilt-by-htc/
from : whirlpool thread
How did you go Morphio, did that link help out any ?
Umm nah, I've also tried a much newer 3.29.861.0 ROM and that didnt help.
I dont know what to do
Morphio said:
Umm nah, I've also tried a much newer 3.29.861.0 ROM and that didnt help.
I dont know what to do
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I have the latst official shipped TyTnII 3 ROM (WM 6.1) for Australia.
ie:
TyTN II_AUS Hutch_WM6.1_Upgrade_20080602 (may 2008)
Can't recall where I found it. I am fairly certain it was on this site
If you cannot find it through searchLet me know if you still need it.
Official 3 ROM
Morphio said:
Firstly...I'm with 3 in Australia
Ok, bought a TYTN II off ebay some months ago now from a Hong Kong dealer (that'll learn me) and it seems to not work with the 3G network here in Australia. The phone is always EDGE roaming and whenever it switches to 3G I can't send or receive SMS messages.
I've done some reading around and found that maybe I need to flash the ROM of the phone to an Australian one so that the phone will work properly. I found a thread on Whirlpool and someone there posted a link to this ROM for another user:
www.mediafire.com/?0jt1cwyx61g
Is that the ROM I want? If so, how do I go about flashing my phone with this ROM to make it work?
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Dude... found it in seconds on google
Link to the ROM download
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7J3L5LEE
I have flashed this ROM anytime I've had problems with others and it has always worked.
One question though, did Juvs Network Wizard not find 3 for you or it failed in some other way?
Congrats on your purchase and hope get as much out of it as I have
MaDing2000 said:
I have the latst official shipped TyTnII 3 ROM (WM 6.1) for Australia.
ie:
TyTN II_AUS Hutch_WM6.1_Upgrade_20080602 (may 2008)
Can't recall where I found it. I am fairly certain it was on this site
If you cannot find it through searchLet me know if you still need it.
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This is the same one I used (3.29.861.0) and nothing seems to have changed, still doesnt register on 3G network
Morphio said:
This is the same one I used (3.29.861.0) and nothing seems to have changed, still doesnt register on 3G network
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Damn! Sorry...
The ROM I posted the link to doesn't ask me for a "serial" when I've flashed it..
I assume you have run the Connection Setup wizard (Settings > Connections > Connection Setup?
Have you tried to manually enter 3's settings?
Perhaps flash the latest Hyperdragon III http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397121
It has a suitable radio for Australia and I flashed this recently on a TyTn II purchased in Malaysia and all worked fine (as did the ROM I referred to earlier)
Ok but to flash to that (being a cooked ROM) dont I have to do something before I can flash to that? Is it HardSPL I have to install or something like that?
Yes... Unlock and flash a hard spl...
It is quite easy
Excellent directions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356895
I am in no way an expert with these devices but I have had no problem that hasn't been quickly resolved.
perhaps unlocking the phone may resolve your problem with flashing the 3 shipped ROM.... (again, no expert here)
Ok seems this is not gonna work. I've done some reading and apparently the board it to blame for my phone not working properly. Since it was an eBay job (but from a company) I can still get warranty but I have to send overseas to HK.
What do people think, I can buy a new TytnII for $659 and when the old one comes back from warranty I can sell it. Would the new one (if I bought from Australian store) work on 3G?
Unless it's faulty hardware, it shouldn't need a return. Don't spend your cash just yet
Try this new official 3.34.721.2 WWE HTC rom, with 1.70 radio.
Download it, plug your activesync cable in, run the exe file you downloaded - after 20 mins or so, you should have the latest ROM, with built in Aus Three Network detection (assuming you have a legal 3 sim-card)
(ps. it may seem like its stalled while flashing, but just give it time)
Report back if successful
Downloaded and installed last night - doesnt seem to have made any difference
sigh...
Morphio said:
Downloaded and installed last night - doesnt seem to have made any difference
sigh...
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After Flashing a ROM you should always hard reset the device as well. After all this is done, what versions of the following are showing as being installed: ROM, Radio, SPL (can find the last one in the tri colour boot screen - read the wiki if you need to know how to get to the boot screen)? If all of this is showing correctly and you're still having problems then it's probably something like the sim (just any old sim won't do and it needs to be compatible with the phone). You could try another if you have a spare. When you switched it on, after a minute or so did you get a message popping up asking if you wanted to automatically configure the phone for your networks settings?
Bought one from Ebay for a good rpice though the photo should an unbrabded box. Turns up and it's an orange one.
Now I;m not fussed if was a Fisher price branded one though the ROM does worry me as the HTC website won;t let download the official ROM.
What are my options. I love the phone and would keep it (asked for a kick back anyway due to false advertising) though if I can;t upgrade the ROM I would be pee'd. It's got a cooked ROM by Olinex???
ROM Version 1.37.405.1.WWE
ROM Date 06/12/08
Radio Version 1.20.OliNex
What should I do??
Cheers
Looks like the one you got it from (sim-)unlocked it.
There should be HardSPL on your phone, so its no problem to flash an unbranded rom.
Had alook and can't find hardspl..phones woerks fine with my Vodafone sim and the data connection is all set up.
Just the fact that I wanted the official ROM on it and not sure if this is possible?
Been a while since i bothered with ROMs etc
searched the whole phone and HardSPL is not there???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211
hope this helps
did the SPL check and it does indeed have SPL1.40.
Does that mean I can flash the official HTC rom? straight over what I have?
Thanks....
So my problem is - I put android on my htc tytn II and it worked (well kinda) but anyway I decided to switch back to Windows Mobile...
I installed 1.27.x.x radio , found a Windows Mobile 6 ROM and put (Like in the instructions ) Kaisimg.nbh(renamed from ruu_signed.nbh) and Kaisdiag.nbh to my SD card and then started flashing... It flashed smth,rebooted automatically and started booting android again...
Then I hold again camera button + power+ reset and since then when I put EVERY .nbh file on my sd card and try to flash it it STUCK on "Loading.." If I try to flash it with USB It stays at 0%.
The only exeption is if I try to flash from USB the rom that I tried to flash before from my sd card.. then it starts 0%..1% and reboot the phone...
P.S: Please help me...I think my device is not Broken but I dont know what should I do to fix it...
To flash back to WM from android put your kaiser into bootloader (multi colored screen) Then connect to usb. Download any WM build that is recent (I suggest Phoenix 3 for this, you can flash whatever you want later). After you download it open and run the included RUU that came with it and it will flash it on there.
hmm, I also had experienced the similar problem on my 1st time flashing back to WinMo.
When you are trying to flash via USB cable and the process stopped at 1% I guess there is also a message about "Invalid vender ID" right?
and if the text in your bootloader (tricolor screen) doesn't mention anything about hard such as "3.29.0000" (not "3.29.hard")
then
you've lost your hard SPL that's why you cant flash any .nbh to your phone.
I had managed to solve this problem by flashing stock WM rom for kaiser. The rom also has to be suitable for your phone, I mean if your kaiser is originally from France, then use French kaiser stock rom. Or if you are using AT&T Tilt use kaiser cingular stock rom.
you can find the list of shipped roms for kaiser here :
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Kaiser/
If you still have the "invalid vender ID" error message, try another stock ROM.
Thanks man you're my hero! I though I lost my phone.. anyway i bought new one - Nokia 2730 Classic but Ill sell the kaiser...
Thanks Anyway ... you're god!
Have the same problem...
Firstly, I'd like to point that the reason for the hard SPL getting overwritten by an original SPL is NOT HAVING UPDATED HARDSPL to a newer version that prevents accidental overwrite. This is instructed in the previous steps before actually installing Android. That was my mistake (I had HardSPL 1.0 OliPof), and now I can't flash no rom to my Kaiser (which thankfully works quite well in Android).
What happens (please correct me if I'm wrong) is that "KAISDIAG.NBH" is a modified, standalone hardSPL that will flash to the phone the SPL that comes with the "KAISIMG.NBH" you put in your SD card with "KAISDIAG.NBH"). In my case, I used the WinMo 6.1 spanish version 3.29.412.0, which, resulted in my phone being flashed with the original SPL 3.29.
Now, it seems many users have fixed this locating the correct stock rom and flashing it in their Kaisers. But to others, like myself, nothing seems to work. I believe that this is because we not only need a stock rom for our specific Kaiser model, but also it has to be compatible with the SPL that accidentally got installed in the phone. The problem is what if such rom doesn't even exists?
I'm really thankfull for all I learned by reading the forums (and from my mistakes ) and I know I'm in no position to make requests, but here goes what I think could help the users like myself to fix this, if posible:
1) Guide to identify what model of Kaiser we have (maybe it's already there, I just couldn't find it)
2) Complete list (or lists) of stock roms (There are some around, those are easy to find I think, but it doesn't hurt to share different sources)
3) Something like a JumpSPL for Android would be more than awesome...
Thanks in advance to everybody, sorry for my own stupidity . Any idea or help would be much appreciated,
Daniel
hmm, I'm not sure if it has to be compatible with the SPL.
In my case, I was flashing a very old WWE stock rom which has original SPL 1.56.
I also had been very desperate because any stock rom I found seems doesn't work and I even didn't know where originally my kaiser came from because I get it from my uncle. So I tried to flash any WWE stock rom I could found but nothing works. I read from Wikipedia that based on my phone model (Kais100), this model was only sold as AT&T tilt for US. But the problem is my phone is HTC branded, not AT&T tilt. Well, based on this information I also tried to flash some cingular stock rom but the result was just the same.
After contacting HTC Customer care, I know more info about my phone. They told me that based on my phone product ID, my kaiser was originally shipped for US, but unfortunately they can't provide me stock rom for my phone model. So I searched myself but this time I had better objective : to search HTC branded rom but for US.
finally, after days of search. I've found the rom that is suitable for my phone. Its called HTC WWE Brightpoint US which has original SPL 3.29 at the bottom of the list on the website I told you on my previous post.
few weeks ago I also accidentally overwrite my HardSPL again, but this time I did it with the stock ROM which has original SPL 3.29. But this problem also solved by flashing the stock ROM I've found before via USB cable.
So, I guess it has nothing to do with spl version.
Keep tying don't give up.
Update: Step 1 completed! YAY
Using the serial number and some obscure google searching, I came to the conclusion my KAIS130 is australian. Cheers, mate!
I verified this by being able to download stock roms from the australian HTC site with my Kaiser serial number. But at the moment of writing this, have downloaded two roms and no luck yet. 5 minutes remaining for the third one... Wish me luck...
Daniel.
Well... Now what?
Tried all four rom-like thingies I could download on the HTC page, all of them returning error 294...
Now what? try to somehow extract the .nbhs from the exes and and use customRUU.exe? Try to flash from SD card?
Please help... Any ideas... I really want to get rid from that original SPL3.29.0000 It's evil!!! I think it won't never let me flash again.
Thanks,
Daniel
cuartetoraro said:
Tried all four rom-like thingies I could download on the HTC page, all of them returning error 294...
Now what? try to somehow extract the .nbhs from the exes and and use customRUU.exe? Try to flash from SD card?
Please help... Any ideas... I really want to get rid from that original SPL3.29.0000 It's evil!!! I think it won't never let me flash again.
Thanks,
Daniel
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sorry to hear that..
well, extract the .nbh from exe and flash it via sd card is the method that made me overwrite my hard SPL in the first place.
hmm, did your phone comes with operator brand, such as three or something?
-Rif- said:
sorry to hear that..
hmm, did your phone comes with operator brand, such as three or something?
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No, it's HTC unbranded. Now, something strange here: the label behind the battery has the serial number: HT830GB06075 and the P/N (guess it's part number) :99HCY194-00, but to the left of the camera, another label with the part number: 36H00563-00M and below says DATE:061107(TB02)/US.
I don't know if that's normal, but it caught my atention because my phone seems to have been dissasembled (little label over screw is teared). Maybe my Kaiser isn't Australian after all...