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Hi have upgraded my orange tytn ii over the weekend but i am having a few issues. Used the official wwe htc rom.
When i go to send a message and open the keyboard the menu is blank. Yet if i close the keyboard, the menu is there.
Also when entering the text the suggested word box is either blank or comes up in japenense or chinese. Again when i close the keyboard the words are in english?!!
The on screen keyboard is also different to the 6.0 build. The numbers are no longer present across the top. Is there any way of reverting back to this.
So far i'm not that impressed, i'm thinking of reverting back.
Any help would be great.
goochio said:
Hi have upgraded my orange tytn ii over the weekend but i am having a few issues. Used the official wwe htc rom.
When i go to send a message and open the keyboard the menu is blank. Yet if i close the keyboard, the menu is there.
Also when entering the text the suggested word box is either blank or comes up in japenense or chinese. Again when i close the keyboard the words are in english?!!
The on screen keyboard is also different to the 6.0 build. The numbers are no longer present across the top. Is there any way of reverting back to this.
So far i'm not that impressed, i'm thinking of reverting back.
Any help would be great.
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U need to disable cleratype in landscape. U can do it in KaiserTweak or Advanced Config Tool.
U can istall another keyboard, just find the one u want and install it.
"press OK to continue loading the contents of this page"
Is there an official, supported, safe way of going back? For now I am not recommending the upgrade:
I installed it on my TyTN II. Not good. Several problems, most seem related to Pocket Internet Explorer, an intermittent "press OK to continue loading the contents of this page" message pops up when loading some pages and when opening some email messages in the built in messaging client.
Sometimes the device enters a state in which it stops responding every few seconds, with a window of about two seconds of responsiveness. When this happens, control of the device can be regained by using a program like FdcSoft Task Manager (TaskMgr.exe) to kill PIE.
There is some difficulty in switching the phone from automatic WCDMA/GSM to GSM only, the phone setting application seems to hang.
I tried using PIEPlus to disable scripting and KaiserTweak to turn off threaded SMS thinking that it might help, but the "press ok" bug persists.
Googling around this problem seems to have popped up (pun intended) previously, well... years ago. Scary.
If anybody has found solutions to this issue please post. Thank You.
micronauta said:
Is there an official, supported, safe way of going back? For now I am not recommending the upgrade:
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What do u mean by that?
About the screen freezes: did u install the latest spl?
"press ok to continue" SOLVED
I meant reverting to 6.0.
SPL? No. I just used the official download from HTC to upgrade the stock 6.0 that came with my Kaiser to 6.1
Anyway, I found what seems to be the solution for the annoying "press ok to continue" problem. Using a registry editor, navigate to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main and make sure BlockStaticActiveX is set to zero.
And after hard resetting the device and a full reinstall the lock-up naver came back. Very strange.
So in general I am doing good now with 6.1, except for the same garbled text problem if I slide open the keyboard when Pocket Internet Explorer has the cursor in a text field.
Hi all,
I've finally narrowed down where all my sytem crashes are coming from, and it appears to be my installations of "duttythroy HTC Touch Keyboard" and "HTC Touch Keyboard + Keypad"
Both are installed (HTC one first, then duttythroy), and when I come to type something, the options are there in the pop-up menu ("Touch Keyboard" "Touch Keypad"), however if I select one, the normal keyboard appears and the selected entry jumps back to "Keyboard", so I'm guessing thats because it failed to access/load the touch keyboard?
So I then go to uninstall, and it cannot uninstall either of them, it sits forever with the little spinning icon as it tries to uninstall, eventually failing by either locking the device needing a reset, or by popping up saying it cannot remove the application at this time.
Can anyone provide me manual removal details for this application, I'll need registry, files, etc to remove it as cleanly as I can if possible.
Thanks in advance
I dont know about your system crashes, but the solution to the keyboard and keypad problem is found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271008
Hiya,
Thanks for that but I don't believe thats the actual issue, as its not between resets that it won't permit me to select the touch keyboard, its actually when I manually select the touch keyboard it cancels that and reverts back.
So, I really need to manually clean/uninstall these applications that appear to have become corrupted somewhere along the way.
That is the actual issue with the keyboard, it wont let you select it at all - if you read back through the post linked above it's not aimed at setting a default selection, it's to make it work at all!
I had the same issue, clicked on either and it would just stay on keyboard and so have many others. Installation of SIPchange sorted it. Maybe then you can rule out this being the problem for your system crashes?
Good luck
Software Keyboard (seems fast)
Try FingertouchPRO, the layout is customizable and so is the keyboard height, I was able to make this as big as fullscreen and also little as I liked.
The cab resides on www.fingertouchpro.com , just click the big CAB button.
There is a movie showing this toy in action, the speed (if it's real) is incredible!
Software solution for a hardware problem!
Very often when i press softkey or any d-pad key once, it is interpreted as multiple key press. Other users also reported that problem. I even send my device to repair center in UK, but they repaired everything except that. That is VERY VERY annoying! Sometimes i can't unlock the keyboard because of that.
So to solve the problem, i created an application (without UI) that will not allow pressing any of those keys more than once in period of 200ms (without timer, so your battery will not suffer). You can change that value through configuration file and also the keys that you want to monitor (comma-separated). I tested the application for a day, and it works perfectly!
112 - left soft key
113 - right soft key
37 - left
38 - up
39 - right
40 - down
13 - enter
Suddenly i feel free!
After install, shortcut will be created in \Windows\Startup folder so that it is started every time you restart your device.
When you install the application you will have to start it manually or restart device.
Device becomes usable again if you ignore low memory problem
.NET Compact Framework 3.5 is required!
Enjoy!
Good work and a very usefull app, mine thankfully does not double tap too often but I might give this a whirl.
Thanks for the work!
Seems to work great, thanks a lot
I'm glad you find it useful.
I get the following message when trying to run the htckeyboardfix.exe:
Error:
An unexpected error has occured in HTCKeyboardFix.exe.
Select Quit and then restart this program, or select Details for more information.
This application requires a newer version of the Microsoft .NET Compact Framework than the version installed on this device.
I have a HTC S730 with WM 6.0 (original), phone is just new and no updates available... Did you install a newer version of .NET framwork? (don't know how to find out my version of .NET, OS version is = 5.2.1622 build 18128.0.4.4)
Same problem as bmwheaven here. Are you using a cooked rom?
You need to install .NET Compact Framework 3.5.
Thanks for the heads-up.
Installed the framework and the software, but for me it's not really a solution:
The delay of 200ms is way too much; can't even scroll through the menu's normally.
Tried alot of different delays, but nothing; I want to be able to write fast with the qwerty-keyboard, and only a delay of <50ms would help. But then the device responds twice to keypresses again...
Thanks for trying though, certainly a good try, but quite not good enough.
hi - i wont to test this on my MTeoR, install Framwork 3.5, and now i get this Message:
failed acquiring of the hook
whats means this ??
thx, Andi
bmwheaven said:
Thanks for the heads-up.
Installed the framework and the software, but for me it's not really a solution:
The delay of 200ms is way too much; can't even scroll through the menu's normally.
Tried alot of different delays, but nothing; I want to be able to write fast with the qwerty-keyboard, and only a delay of <50ms would help. But then the device responds twice to keypresses again...
Thanks for trying though, certainly a good try, but quite not good enough.
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I agree that 200ms is too much if you want to scroll through the menu by fast pressing D-pad buttons, because main purpose of this application is to prevent that. What you can do is press and hold d-pad buttons and when you are close to where you want to be you can use slower multipress way to get right where you want.
Personally, to me this is an excellent solution, scrolling through the menus are not problem at all for me.
I am not sure what you mean when you say "I want to be able to write fast with the qwerty-keyboard". Why can't you? I mean, this application does not affect any other keys except soft keys and d-pad keys.
gosinga said:
hi - i wont to test this on my MTeoR, install Framwork 3.5, and now i get this Message:
failed acquiring of the hook
whats means this ??
thx, Andi
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It probably means that your device is not application unlocked.
amaric said:
It probably means that your device is not application unlocked.
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thx for answer, but my device is surley unlocked - i have it for 1,5 years and flashed it with some ROM's from here, and it was an open device - not locked from an operator.
so long, Andi
amaric said:
I agree that 200ms is too much if you want to scroll through the menu by fast pressing D-pad buttons, because main purpose of this application is to prevent that. What you can do is press and hold d-pad buttons and when you are close to where you want to be you can use slower multipress way to get right where you want.
Personally, to me this is an excellent solution, scrolling through the menus are not problem at all for me.
I am not sure what you mean when you say "I want to be able to write fast with the qwerty-keyboard". Why can't you? I mean, this application does not affect any other keys except soft keys and d-pad keys.
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Ah, maybe I'm doing something wrong then.
Because I also tested this with sending text-messages, and it really skipped a lot of keypresses.
Did I have to change values in the config file myself; does the program respond to all keys if I don't edit the config-file or did you already put the d-pad and softkey configuration in there?
bmwheaven said:
Ah, maybe I'm doing something wrong then.
Because I also tested this with sending text-messages, and it really skipped a lot of keypresses.
Did I have to change values in the config file myself; does the program respond to all keys if I don't edit the config-file or did you already put the d-pad and softkey configuration in there?
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If you don't change the config file, then program will monitor only d-pad and softkeys. Behavior of any other key is the same with or without the application.
Contact HTC Support
HTC Customer support is not aware of this problem. They urge us all to report the issue with the keys, so it can be escalated to HTC development for a fix.
Please do so at:
http://www.htc.com/europe/CS_Mail.aspx
Hallo
My HTC has the same keyboard problem, and Italian support (sigh!) told me to send to repair....
Tested amaric's software : at the moment works great.
Thank you!!!! You delayed the moment in which I will throw the S730 out of the window!!
tested since 26th august: PERFECT
thank you Amaric: I had the intention to change the phone, but with this application it can be decently used
I am really happy that I could help you guys!
I would also like to say that I sold my s730 and bought s740 because of low memory (I just can't create software to solve that problem ). Although I don't recommend HTC devices easily I must say that s740 is everything that I thought s730 will be. I am very happy with it. Almost no problems at all
I also get "failed acquiring of the hook" on my unlocked S730.
Anyone figured it out?
Look for a software called "hook manager" - install it and it should work.
http://www.mobiion.com/downloads.html#hookmgr
Thought I move the thread to here to see if I will get more help:
Have had the phone for a few weeks and learning lots. All of sudden yesterday when trying to make a calendar entry, the full QWERTY, compact QWERTY, and phone pad can no longer be used to enter text. It's stuck on numeric mode. Tapping the "abc" key on the bottom of the full QWERTY keyboard doesn't change anything. Can still use transcriber and full keyboard for now. BUt when switched to Note program, all entry methods work. Have not installed any new programs lately (besides a few games and new calculator). Have been using S2U2 and Diamond tweaks to help with a few other problems...Help please since this is now my primary calendar and runs my life so need to have this working again!!
I"m using the GSM version with the latest ROM version. The problem also seems to be "periodic" in the sense that everytime I change mode of text entry to something else and back to QWERTY, it lets me enter text, but the moment I change it to numerics, I can't go back unless I change mode of entry again.....Argh.....
I suffer from a similar problem sometimes. Sometimes the keyboard doesn't open at all. I can't type anything. Perhaps it's because of TouchPal, dunno. Gotta reboot the device then ...
Sorry for abusing your thread, but it's a similar problem.7
Have you performed a soft-reset? Did it change anything or have you been suffering from the same problem ... ? Actually a stupid question
Done a soft reset once, and didn't change anything. Like I said it has a mind of its own...when I change the mode of text entry to full keyboard, everything works perfectly so I've been defaulting to that...then when I change from full keyboard to QWERTY, it would bring back the alphabet screen..but the moment I tap the 123 button to change to numeric pad to enter something, I CANNOT go back....I'm unwilling to hard reset for a problem that I have a "work around" on .....hence the post to see if others have similar problem, and HOW THE HECK did it happen???
ya i'm also facing the same problem, but now my COMPACT QWERTY keyboard stopped working completely, it was only taking no's, please suggest solution for this
Thanks in advance
same problem here. a complete reset to factory defaults was the only solution to that problem.
full querty worked normally, but without T9.
compact and phone pad numbers only, equal if i selected ABC or 123. Symbols worked normally
Hi all,
I have flashed some of the ROM's provided here and am seeing an issue which might not disturb many, but disturbs me.
I am a Dutch guy living in Russia, but not willing to accept either Russian or Dutch as a normal language. For me English is the only acceptable language for a ROM. On the other hand, numbers, currency, date and time are favourite to be "Dutch" again.
If I download a WWE or ENglish ROM (as I downloaded an Energy ROM now) I get the English language, so far so good.
But when I try to install the following format for numbers 1.000.000,00 (same for currency) I am told that the character to divide between full numbers or parts cannot be changed to "," or worse between each three digits I cannot place a ".".
Is there a way to change this in registry, so I can change this anyway, even if the regional setting does not allow this ?
Just to make sure You understand me, if I choose for Dutch regional settings, all looks fine, but Calendar or some programs are immediately "talking" Dutch to me, something I dislike again. Sunday should always be Sunday on computers (even if I do understand Zondag)
Any help would be appreciated.
Ruud
When you change to a non-English regional setting, like Dutch, it automatically changes the names of the months and days (and a few other related things) into the language for that region. That's what you're seeing. You can still keep those in English and get the other settings you want, but the settings have to be entered in manually.
To do this, start with one of the English regions that's closest to what you want. Then, you can change all of the other settings to what you expect. For the command/period problem with long numbers, you have to type in the command and period. They will not be in the drop down. Also, you'll need to adjust the order of month/day/year, etc. to what you expect it to be.
I just tried it on my phone to be sure it would work. For your reference, it should be exactly the same process to do it on your computer running Windows.
Also...
I don't know about anyone else, but I thought it was an interesting question. But that's probably just because I have to deal with localization and internationalization in my regular work.
Hello fenux,
thanks that my boring issue is interesting for somebody
But , this does not seem to solve the issue for me.
I have the Energy Rom at the moment I have chosen the Dutch regional settings, as they are what I need for numbers or at least I can change it to what I need.
As for testing your proposal I change the regional settings to English (United Kingdom) so I would get the Englisch language. I go to "numbers" and try to change the "," to a "." not by using the dropdown menu, but by using the keyboard instead. New character is not accepted. Tried to do the same through the software keyboard, same result.
Actually that was why I asked if I can change such in the registry somewhere.
Any more ideas maybe ?
Regards,
Ruud
I'm not sure why it's not letting you change them. I did find this page (http://www.pcoperative.com/ppc/registry_tweaks.htm#Override Date & Time Format) which includes some of the information on where the override information is stored. But it doesn't include changing the decimal and thousands separator.
Here are the settings for those, taken from my registry after I overrode them:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\nls\overrides]
; Decimal for normal numbers
"SDeci":","
; Digit grouping (thousands) for normal numbers
"SThsn":"."
; And for currency
"SMDcS":","
"SMThS":"."
Hi fenux,
interesting information, I will play around with those. It is visible that some of those strings are not available after chosing a certian regional setting, but I can add them. I will see if I can get to solve my issue with this.
Yes, this looks perfect on first try, thank You VERY much.
regards,
Ruud
Now if You can answer me another question: what is the most stable and fastest ROM around here, I really need it.
I've had good luck with the 21885/Sense 2.1 version of EnergyROM (not as many extras as the other versions, but it's stable and fast). I'm working on my own that fits my needs a little better, but it's nowhere near ready for public use.
Hi fenux,
I am sorry if unclear, but that last sentence was supposed to be more of a joke.
But of course thanks for the answer anyway.
When I downloaded the Energy I made some mistake and took the 28011 instead. When I tried to download the other I was made to understand that there is a time limit, so I did not bother anymore. I like the ROM itself, very nice, but am actually downloading the 21885 at the moment. Reason is that my AlarmMaster 2.0 does not work anymore, as soon as an alarm is supposed to ring, the display is being switched on and the program hangs. The program is too important to me, so I have to change here.
This was my line before editing : I very much like the Action and OK button on the lower part of the screen, so I use the Sense 2,5 version.
But : after a succesfull flash I noticed that actually that ROM does not include the Action and OK buttons below. It also does not have any issue with the regional settings at all. I will continue to install all programs (as I lack time for playing) and hope / presume this ROM to be stable.
Thanks again.