Due to lack of moneys, I had to suspend my data plan, which isn't that big of a deal because I'm surrounded by wi-fi most of the time anyway. But some applications automatically connect to 3G -- is there anything I can download or tweak that'll keep that from happening?
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I'm currently using my Kaiser on T-Mobile, and I don't have a data plan as I don't intend to access the internet other than via WiFi. However, sometimes if I try to sync my email or access a webpage without first connecting to WiFi, I get a notification that my phone is connecting to EDGE. This obviously shouldn't be happening, since my plan doesn't cover it. Usually I can cancel it within a few seconds so I don't think it's ever actually connected.
However, I'm afraid that rather than denying me access to the network, it's just going to let me connect and then automatically charge me for a data plan, which is something I would definitely like to avoid. Does anyone know why this is happening, whether I'll actually get connected to EDGE/be charged for it, and how I can get around it? Or should I talk to T-Mobile and find out from them? Also, when my phone connects to the data network to receive MMS, does that count as part of a data plan or is that covered in the regular MMS charge? I have virtually no knowledge of how phone and data networks function, so sorry if this info is painfully simple.
Thanks in advance.
Not having a data plan doesn't prevent you from connecting to the data network, but only changes the way it gets billed. Without a plan you usually get billed for the amount of data you transfer, at a fairly high price per MB. With a plan you'll pay some monthly fee but will then be free to transfer up to a certain amount of data per month, altogether for much cheaper.
If you don't want the EDGE to connect, either simply delete the connection parameters from the connection settings or use a program like this one to deactivate the connection:
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility/
MMS is a separate connection that can only be used for MMS and doesn't charge.
you can also change the different cell data connections to disabled with KaiserTweak, on this forum, that's worked well for me.
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Okay, thanks guys, I'll check it out. I skimmed through some of the connection options and didn't see anything, but I'll look more thoroughly and figure it out. Also need to remember to install KaiserTweak again, keep forgetting to while trying out various ROMs.
Also thanks for the info about the billing, I didn't realize it worked like that - I thought it was like internet access, if you don't have a plan you can't get on.
You can get unlimited access to media net for $15 a month
Required:
- Running on N1
- Silently in the background, continuously, doing a very little and bandwidth limited download process
- The download process will not use SD space at all or will use a very little space and not growing in space
Optional:
- Can set the timer of that continuously download process
- Have an icon (widget?) to monitor it
Why do i need that?
Because i want that H "downlink and uplink icon" go online all the time even when my internet is idle. Currently, if my internet is idle, H icon will empty, and then when i'm trying to use internet there is an annoying establishing connection process for like 10 or 20 seconds before i can actually use the internet.
Thanks before.
you want to be connected to hsdpa all the time , hmm i get the point but wouldn't it drain the battery faster?
Yeah. But sometime i need that, for example when i'm tethering it while i'm charging it next to my laptop.
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Yeah. But sometime i need that, for example when i'm tethering it while i'm charging it next to my laptop.
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tethering has priority over sleeping, im pretty sure its supposed to stay on and connected when tethering. If it is losing connection its probably a signal strength/location issue.
Yeah. But also, there are other scenarios where i prefer speed over the battery.
Any idea what app i should look?
Run "ping" from a command line to any server out there (www.google.com for example), and enjoy constant connection
But I suggest looking into your settings, there is no good reason why HSPDA connection initialization should take more than a couple of seconds.
Complaint to your network operator!
The network operator should manage the connections timers to avoid long connections times...
If the amount of data in buffer is below some threshold the configuration in the network shold move you to a low capacity common channel (FACH), after that, if the amount of data is zero, you change to a state called cell_pch, where you still have the connection but don't use physical resources. You should be in this state for a couple of hours before being disconnected.
it shoudnt takes more than 1 sec to be on HSDPA again!!
Complaint to your network operator!
Yeah.
Thanks for the help guys.
Here's a classic problem I've been having:
I have wifi enabled at home, and it works great. I walk out to my car parked on the street, and from here my phone still sees my wifi network, but it has a very weak connection and basically can't transmit any data. I open Google Navigation to get directions to drive somewhere, and the phone just sits there trying to find directions, or connect to server, etc.
It would seem that whenever my phone can find a weak or public wifi (which requires a login-screen and does not actually "connect" to the internet), then I essentially get no data connection whatsoever. Isn't there supposed to be a function in the phone that will automatically switch over to 3G or whatever data network is available to fill in the gaps?
This is really annoying me, as Minneapolis has public wifi everywhere, which my phone thinks is "connected" when its really not, so basically its a coin flip as to whether my data connection will work when I'm driving.
Try turning off Wi-Fi?
Of course, I do turn off wifi and the problem is gone, but I seldom remember to do it on my first time. It's most apparent and annoying when I do a voice command or voice search while driving, and then it says "connection error" and I feel like chucking my phone out the window.
If I had true 4G and an unlimited data plan, I'd probably never even bother with toggling wifi on, but as it stands now, with a 200MB plan, I really need to keep wifi on whenever possible.
Is this a common occurrence with Captivate, or Android in general? I ask because this issue just came up yesterday, and I just got owned by an iPhone4 user. We both wondered if it was going to rain soon, so we both opened our browsers, and I was stuck looking at this stupid public wifi login screen, and was putzing around with wifi, when BAM, he just shows me his iPhone with fully loaded weather radar, etc. Hence I wanted to get this issue resolved now more than ever.
Not sure if the phone has this setting but windows 7 has an option to turn auto connect to open wifi spots off. So you gave to manually connect.
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I have observed this but don't know why this happens. Sometime, my data download speeds lag to really low speeds of 50 KB. When I turn the airplane mode on and off, the data speeds increase drastically to around 2.6 MBps. Does anyone know why the data speds change so much after the airplane mode and why it lags in the first place?
I am on LQ2, stock ICS, LPT modem, AT&T (US).
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Have you tried flashing a different modem?
I think what you are experiencing is either traffic shaping by your carrier or the tower you are connecting to for data is overly busy. By cycling your radio with the airplane mode you are actually re-registering your handset on the carrier net and this may also cause you to connect to another tower that has less traffic on the backhaul link.
Some of our local networks are sometimes saturated and one can't get a connection to make a call. So what some people do is dial the emergency 112 and then drop the call, this prioritizes the handset on the tower and one can them make a call.
If you can't find a proper work around for this problem, please download the app "restart connection" from the play store. this app disconnects and then re registers your phone within 3 seconds so you don't have to manually enable and then disable airplane mode all the time which can be frustrating.
you might also wanna install "network monitor mini ", this app gives you a live reading of your data transfer on your screen in a pretty non intrusive way, so you can always know the speed of your data transfer.
I have the network monitor mini live widget at the right bottom Corner of the screen and I check it occasionally to see my connection status and whenever I am on a congested tower or if iam getting low speeds, I click on restart connection icon on my dock, and my phone gets re registered on the network and I get better speeds.this set up has helped me numerous times.
Both of us basically do the same thing, its just that my set up is a little bit easier and less annoying. I Hope you find it helpful
Good luck
I am on my second T-Mo LG G4. Both have exhibited a strange behavior that is rather annoying. I've disabled all automatic sync features and the like - in the same manner as I've done successfully with both a Nexus 5 and a LS990 G3.
So here's the issue(s):
1) Whenever I boot the phone - it automatically turns mobile on. e.g. as indicated by "Data Enabled" quick toggle or the Android Setup slider control.
2) Most times when I enable WiFi, the phone (or whatever) systematically turns on mobile data again - and it's damn repeatable e.g. at ~ 15 seconds after I tap the WiFi quick toggle.
3) Most times when I am running off of WiFi, the mobile data will randomly come on by itself even after I hammered it off that first time in response to manually turning on WiFi.
Zero technical assistance from the obvious sources. LG points the finger at T-Mo. T-Mo points the finger at LG.
I'm starting to think this is related to the Lollipop API change crammed down everyone's throat by Google.
I'm on metered service and have grown accustomed to living off of WiFi. With prior phones I was in full control of what I've been charged. With the G4, it's nearly impossible to manage ...
Any thoughts, shared experiences or recommendations ?
Hmm, there is a setting that can automagically use LTE if the Wifi is detected not to have internet access. I can't think of what it's called at the moment but it's in setting somewhere - possibly WIFI settings.
I would also be sure to disable T-Mobile's "diagnostics" setting in the T-Mobile app and attempt to turn off any other monitoring settings contained within. I think there is a setting that monitors the LTE signal strength and that could be making it pop on.
Other than that, it does seem rather annoying for you! You are on T-Mobile though, didn't you get the 10GB data pass and have the unused data rollover? Another note, why not setup the data limiter in Data Usage to automagically turn off the data after X GB usage. I know it isn't a direct solution but if data usage is a concern, it could work as a workaround!
Hey, thanks for the response and suggestions.
To be clear, I'm on Ting's GSM network - which is serviced by T-Mo.
I'm well versed with Android and prior to this phone I was on a Nexus 5 with 5 .1 .1 and it didn't behave like this.
I've tried all the buried settings to get in front of "enabled" data on two different G4's but nothing is panning out.
And yes, I did think of that T-Mo diagnostics app and it's not enabled - at least not on the surface.
And one more thing, my WiFi is solidly connected when data goes rogue robot.
Hadn't considered the data cap setting. Seems clunky but might help until a custom ROM is available.
rockerrock said:
Hmm, there is a setting that can automagically use LTE if the Wifi is detected not to have internet access. I can't think of what it's called at the moment but it's in setting somewhere - possibly WIFI settings.
I would also be sure to disable T-Mobile's "diagnostics" setting in the T-Mobile app and attempt to turn off any other monitoring settings contained within. I think there is a setting that monitors the LTE signal strength and that could be making it pop on.
Other than that, it does seem rather annoying for you! You are on T-Mobile though, didn't you get the 10GB data pass and have the unused data rollover? Another note, why not setup the data limiter in Data Usage to automagically turn off the data after X GB usage. I know it isn't a direct solution but if data usage is a concern, it could work as a workaround!
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