Hey all. I have an unlocked US G1 that is rooted. I'm using it in Canada with ROGERS network. I don't have access to the paid apps. Is this normal? Is there a way around it? I really rooted mainly to get the Task manager app, but seeing as it is a paid app now, i can't even get access to buy it
Sure. The workaround is that you plug in a US sim card.
I feel your pain
Hey mate, i've pm'd you about your crisis.
Not sure if this is allowed or not really. It's the old free version, which still works so i assume i assume sharing it's ok but if not the mods here will no doubt be on it like a hawk so no harm done.
http://rapidshare.com/files/210787679/com.taskManager.rootTaskManager.apk
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Welcome to the sad reality of Canadian G1 owners.
Do you have timestamp issues with SMS (i.e. all your received texts are 5 hours behind?). If so the easiest fix is to set your time to +0 (but be forewarned as that will mess up some other things in the phone like exchange and gmail time stamps). I've heard hand-cent sms app works but I haven't given it a try myself.
Yes the work around for paid apps is getting a US Sim card. Speaking of which, I have a brand-new T-Mobile sim. I don't believe it's activated or anything and I'm not entirely certain how this works but would I be able to put it in and download paid apps through wifi? I don't want to get any messed up charges on my next bill.
Sorry mate but as i understand it, if you use a us sim card, you can use to download the apps via 3g, however if you want to use wifi, you not only need the us sim card your router also needs to think it's us based which is a whole other story. Which completely sucks for you as i understand rogers still hasn't announced any intention of bringing the friendly lil' bot to your fair shores, and Google in their infinite wisdom still hasn't rolled out a web based market. Where did i put my eye patch...............
Yeah that makes sense, thanks for that info!
Alright guys so reason why i opened this thread is because do to the fact that AT&T is nothing but a pure monopolistic (wants to control everything) company and as we are all aware there is no unlimited data plans, i have always wanted to know how to "Trick" if i may say, AT&T to thinking were using a so-called "Dumb Phone" thus vise versa a smartphone such as the good old Samsung captivate. I have read other threads about similar issues and achievements on using one dumb phone to activate there data and then switching there SIM to the smartphone but to be fully honest no one has posted steps or a how-to tutorial on how to do this precisely.
If you happen to be one of those that knows how to do this, can you be kind enough to share us your knowledge and post to us some happiness once and for all Thank you!!
unless you are willing to shell out 6-700 bucks for an inport/contract free smart phone, there is no way you can get away with that. your IMEI tells everything about your phone and they will know that you are using cappy.
And why exactly did you post this in the development section?
Just saying... there are some good threads going on here, and then you post this.
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Not a development question.
Forum is busy enough already. Try QA or a general discussion forum.
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I have been using a captivate without a data plan for the past 7 months. I used it for 1 month with the data and then I called up AT&T and told that I was not satisfied with the phone and was going back to my old [non-smart] phone. They removed the data plan of my line. I used that phone for about 2 weeks. In those 2 weeks, I made sure the captivate had no means of connecting to the internet other than wifi (i.e. turn off data, remove apns, remove any and all mms apps). This has been working for me for a while now. It may work for you.
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My wife had a non-smart phone with a non-smartphone dataplan.
She then got a captivate from a source other than AT&T.
Move the sim card from the non-smartphone into the captivate, and it worked great.
The next morning, in came a text message from AT&T "Hope you are enjoying your new smartphone. You may not have known that you need a smartphone dataplan for that phone, so we have moved you over to the 2-gig smartphone dataplan".
Might need hacking IMEI?
Yeah there isn't any way for that cause my brother had a dumb phone and then put his at&t sim to n70 and after a month at&t texted him that he's gonna get charged for the data plan..
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did his n70 had changed imei to the dumb phone one's? to acheive this we need Dumb phone IMEI AND dumb phone user-agent, or just use the damn VPN.
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Here is news that no mobile phone owner will want to hear.
From tomorrow (Jan 26) unlocking your phone will become illegal , in USA ofc..where else...LOL , thanks to the Library of Congress's DMCA and could actually result in jail time!
In fact, this shiny new restriction extends to tablets as well where they can use SIM cards. There has been next to no press coverage that this was coming either, which is strange for something big like this, because digital liberty groups like the EFF normally shout loud about it in order to help promote a pushback. It seems like their efforts didn't pay off in this case, however.
The law was no doubt changed at the behest of the large mobile carriers in order to squeeze every last penny out of their subscribers, while restricting the value those subscribers get from their services, since they're stuck with the service provider that they bought their phone from
edit : i am rly sorry for people who leave in USA . your government is so wrong...so,so evil...
How true is this?
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well.. believe it or not... in USA is everything possible but only a normal thing is impossible... unfortunately
here is link...
http://www.legitreviews.com/news/15028/
Honestly, how the hell would they be able to detect it even if it was illegal?
Are they going to start checking the credit card info of every customer who paid $8 to cellunlocker.net? Are they going to track down everyone who reads a page on how to do a software based unlock for the few phones that support it?
Last time I checked the carriers aren't able to remotely detect if you've SIM unlocked your phone. And even if they could, what's the big deal? People still have to use the carrier service and pay the monthly fee. If they want to switch providers and are on a contract, SIM unlocking won't magically erase the contract - you still have to pay the exorbitant cancellation fee regardless.
The only "loss" to the carriers would be the roaming fees for traveling abroad since unlocked phones can just use local SIMs, but given that a huge cut of the roaming fee goes to the foreign carrier, I doubt that's much of a loss either. Plus, most of the people I know who roam while traveling abroad would still take careful measures to avoid calling and texting, and try to connect to Wifi where possible to use alternatives like Skype and Whatsapp. For example, I cross the US border at least a few times a year, and since it's just a day trip I just roam on my phone even though it's unlocked. I simply connect to the public wifi at the shopping mall, and ignore any incoming calls or SMS - usually people I'm close to would be aware I'm out of the country anyways. Thus, zero roaming charge.
There's honestly no net benefit to the carrier to lock the phones they subsidize. Except for maybe the roaming part, I fail to see what financial losses a carrier would face from people unlocking their subsidized phones.
Whoever proposed this law must be a luddite or just some moron with abysmal knowledge of technology. Fact is, passing the law will do jack s**t. They might as well make it illegal to uninstall bloatware from a laptop you buy off the shelf. That's how superfluous it is.
The only "solution" I could see to the "problem" of unlocked phones, is for carriers to go all-out to disable the hidden menu in smartphones that allows you to enter an unlock code once you insert a non-accepted SIM. But then I'm sure hackers would find a way around that. And I'll bet that if the carriers decide to aggressively look for people to unlock their subsidized phones, the cost of employing the resources to do so would far outweigh any potential extra revenue.
I saw on another site that this "law" might be meant to hurt the sale of used phones - but in America, that's irrelevant. There are only two GSM carriers and they use different 3G frequencies, so most AT&T phones will only work in 2G mode on TMo, and vice versa, unless they're quad or pentaband. Thus most Americans really have only one choice of carrier if they choose to buy a used GSM phone, even unlocked.
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well.. believe it or not... in USA is everything possible but only a normal thing is impossible... unfortunately
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The American government is full of luddites and computer idiots (remember who proposed SOPA?). But then again, so are most governments. Nothing to fear though as long as the people aren't half as dumb and provide sufficient opposition.
Hmm... I guess the only logic behind this would be those people that buy a phone with a contract and just ditch the country altogether... Can you imagine "giving" an S3 for 100 usd with a contract... to someone that just unlocks the phone and goes away? Must be painful...
Anyways, it's been a long way since I bought a phone with a contract.
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Hmm... I guess the only logic behind this would be those people that buy a phone with a contract and just ditch the country altogether... Can you imagine "giving" an S3 for 100 usd with a contract... to someone that just unlocks the phone and goes away? Must be painful...
Anyways, it's been a long way since I bought a phone with a contract.
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But if those people perform the unlocking in the new country they live in, they haven't broken any laws and can't be prosecuted Also anyone who has any long-term plans to return to america after moving out would be foolish to do something like this, since the unpaid bill could be considered a crime!
I think maybe the carriers want to charge a high price to do the unlocking for you, in order to kill "competition" from small businesses like cellunlocker.net.
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Hi,
I just got a OnePlus 10 Pro. I haven't yet activated it and gotten in yet, but I'm also moving to T-mobile from Sprint/T-Mobile.
The plan I'll be on has a 5GB hotspot allowance. I'd like to set my phone up to bypass the hotspot allowance and treat it has normal data use from my phone.
Can anyone help direct me in how to do this? The phone is unlocked, and I'm guessing I'll need to root it first, but any help from anyone on how to get this going would be great.
Thanks.
Sounds like another t mobile limitation..
Send it back when you get it and grab a pixel 7 pro... Read through some of the threads about t mobile, they really do sound like an awful company, I wouldn't line their pockets, just like I wouldn't line OnePlus anymore.
There used to be a limitation on three devices here in the UK, their sales slumped and they stopped doing it, now their phones are unlocked and open..
I'll be honest, from what I've read it seems t mobile locks their phones up pretty good, you could maybe look into changing region but that's a whole other can of worms and in all fairness not something you should be doing with a brand new phone..
Have a look about through the 10 pro threads and you'll see what I mean...
There may be a magisk module that allows you to use your data, but have never needed it myself
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Sounds like another t mobile limitation..
Send it back when you get it and grab a pixel 7 pro... Read through some of the threads about t mobile, they really do sound like an awful company, I wouldn't line their pockets, just like I wouldn't line OnePlus anymore.
There used to be a limitation on three devices here in the UK, their sales slumped and they stopped doing it, now their phones are unlocked and open..
I'll be honest, from what I've read it seems t mobile locks their phones up pretty good, you could maybe look into changing region but that's a whole other can of worms and in all fairness not something you should be doing with a brand new phone..
Have a look about through the 10 pro threads and you'll see what I mean...
There may be a magisk module that allows you to use your data, but have never needed it myself
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Eh, clearly you are not from the US
T-Mobile is by far the best carrier for devs if you buy a carrier locked device. VZW and ATT are by far worse, and Dish is still a joke of a network. Check out VZW and you'll see that even if you buy a Verizon carrier Pixel, you will NEVER be able to unlock it (without an exploit, see Pixel 3). This is unfortunately the Android situation in the US. The NE2217 actually allows you to oem unlock and get the unlock code from oneplus prior to getting the SIM unlocked, which was unheard of in the past. Too bad oneplus decided to **** that up by not having a MSM.
Regarding the OP's question: He's on an unlimited plan called Magenta, which has unlimited data but limited tethering of 5GB. No device sets limit on this, because T-Mobile measures hotspot usage with TTL value on the TCP packet. Technically, you can set the TTL to 65 on devices 1 hop from the phone and the network will never know it's tethered, but obviously you'll need to be using a device where you can modify the TTL. Some people use a 2nd router to achieve it, you'll find a lot of resources about this online.
dladz said:
Sounds like another t mobile limitation..
Send it back when you get it and grab a pixel 7 pro... Read through some of the threads about t mobile, they really do sound like an awful company, I wouldn't line their pockets, just like I wouldn't line OnePlus anymore.
There used to be a limitation on three devices here in the UK, their sales slumped and they stopped doing it, now their phones are unlocked and open..
I'll be honest, from what I've read it seems t mobile locks their phones up pretty good, you could maybe look into changing region but that's a whole other can of worms and in all fairness not something you should be doing with a brand new phone..
Have a look about through the 10 pro threads and you'll see what I mean...
There may be a magisk module that allows you to use your data, but have never needed it myself
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So line Google's pockets?
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Eh, clearly you are not from the US
T-Mobile is by far the best carrier for devs if you buy a carrier locked device. VZW and ATT are by far worse, and Dish is still a joke of a network. Check out VZW and you'll see that even if you buy a Verizon carrier Pixel, you will NEVER be able to unlock it (without an exploit, see Pixel 3). This is unfortunately the Android situation in the US. The NE2217 actually allows you to oem unlock and get the unlock code from oneplus prior to getting the SIM unlocked, which was unheard of in the past. Too bad oneplus decided to **** that up by not having a MSM.
Regarding the OP's question: He's on an unlimited plan called Magenta, which has unlimited data but limited tethering of 5GB. No device sets limit on this, because T-Mobile measures hotspot usage with TTL value on the TCP packet. Technically, you can set the TTL to 65 on devices 1 hop from the phone and the network will never know it's tethered, but obviously you'll need to be using a device where you can modify the TTL. Some people use a 2nd router to achieve it, you'll find a lot of resources about this online.
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Global would be an improvement over t mobiles mess...
No I'm not in the US gladly, I wouldn't touch t mobile based on what I've read about it.
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Global would be an improvement over t mobiles mess...
No I'm not in the US gladly, I wouldn't touch t mobile based on what I've read about it.
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We have a triopoly. Better than Canada though. If you can't stand tmo based on what you've seen on here, you would just not have any cell service and any discussion over phones would be moot lol.
i use pdanet+
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We have a triopoly. Better than Canada though. If you can't stand tmo based on what you've seen on here, you would just not have any cell service and any discussion over phones would be moot lol.
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I have no idea what their network is but surely they offer sim only, in which case I'd buy the phone I wanted then contract the SIM I wanted....this has to be an option in every country.
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I have no idea what their network is but surely they offer sim only, in which case I'd buy the phone I wanted then contract the SIM I wanted....this has to be an option in every country.
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Yeah that doesn't answer the OP's question at all. You can buy a NE2215, or a U1 Samsung, or unlocked Pixel, or an iPhone. Doesn't help that the network will measure hotspot usage the same way, with the TCP packet's TTL value.
And also to resolve your confusion. In the US, carriers do not sell SIM free devices ever. You need to buy from the manufacturer directly.
OP wants to know how to defeat network hotspot measurement. Ranting about how the carrier locks down the phone or even the manufacturer is not helpful. g96818's solution might work, but it's not guaranteed.
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Yeah that doesn't answer the OP's question at all. You can buy a NE2215, or a U1 Samsung, or unlocked Pixel, or an iPhone. Doesn't help that the network will measure hotspot usage the same way, with the TCP packet's TTL value.
And also to resolve your confusion. In the US, carriers do not sell SIM free devices ever. You need to buy from the manufacturer directly.
OP wants to know how to defeat network hotspot measurement. Ranting about how the carrier locks down the phone or even the manufacturer is not helpful. g96818's solution might work, but it's not guaranteed.
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last i used it, pdanet+ has a module to block t-mobile, but you need to use it in tether mode. it's been a while since i needed to tether, buy looks like it might work via wifi now.
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Yeah that doesn't answer the OP's question at all. You can buy a NE2215, or a U1 Samsung, or unlocked Pixel, or an iPhone. Doesn't help that the network will measure hotspot usage the same way, with the TCP packet's TTL value.
And also to resolve your confusion. In the US, carriers do not sell SIM free devices ever. You need to buy from the manufacturer directly.
OP wants to know how to defeat network hotspot measurement. Ranting about how the carrier locks down the phone or even the manufacturer is not helpful. g96818's solution might work, but it's not guaranteed.
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You need to chill lad...
T-Mobile seems to be the only network selling a device that's a massive ballache to do anything with.
Also you're suggesting you can't buy a device SIM free??
Just checked with Verizon. They offer the device SIM free so your chatting bubbles pal
My point is don't buy from T-Mobile, ever... Why would you if this is what they do to you? They do not offer a SIM free device, here in the UK we used to have EE do the same thing with mobile hotspot when it was called T-mobile then they need with orange.
People just stopped using them for that reason, it promoted the other networks like Three and even Vodafone. Soon as the then merged companies realised this they stopped doing it, as well as locking down bootloaders.. So the answer to the question is to swerve them believe it or not.
@Strawboy good luck with your phone buddy, my stance is rigidly within sending it back, T-Mobile sound awful mate..
There may be a magisk module or otherwise that may help but you shouldn't have to jump through hoops just to use your phone. That's nuts.
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You need to chill lad...
T-Mobile seems to be the only network selling a device that's a massive ballache to do anything with.
Also you're suggesting you can't buy a device SIM free??
Really?
I do not believe you at all.
My point is don't buy from T-Mobile, ever... Why would you if this is what they do to you?
@Strawboy good luck with your phone buddy, my stance is rigidly within sending it back, T-Mobile sound awful mate..
There may be a magisk module or otherwise that may help but you shouldn't have to jump through hoops just to use your phone. That's nuts.
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the tether limit isn't based on the device they sell, it's across all devices regardless if it's sim unlocked or not. In the past, you would edit the build prop and add one line to the global tables to bypass the tether check, but google changed that several android generations ago so now only pdanet+ was working for me.
It all depends on the plan your carrier offered. No carrier in the US offers unlimited tethering anymore and those lucky few who have it are all grandfathered plans that the carrier cannot change.
as far as i know, t-mobile has a bunch of restrictions, but it's also the cheapest, offers free 5G (vice an upgrade by other carriers), and offers unlimited data plans.
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the tether limit isn't based on the device they sell, it's across all devices regardless if it's sim unlocked or not. In the past, you would edit the build prop and add one line to the global tables to bypass the tether check, but google changed that several android generations ago so now only pdanet+ was working for me.
It all depends on the plan your carrier offered. No carrier in the US offers unlimited tethering anymore and those lucky few who have it are all grandfathered plans that the carrier cannot change.
as far as i know, t-mobile has a bunch of restrictions, but it's also the cheapest, offers free 5G (vice an upgrade by other carriers), and offers unlimited data plans.
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I'm aware that they capture data to identify hotspot usage.
Seems that Verizon offer unlimited, after an allotted amount of data they reduce the speed but it's still unlimited..
If you're still getting 50-100Mb then that's perfectly fine...
As does t mobile.
3G max speed is 42Mb down... That's perfectly fine for most people tbh.
Seeing as it's 3G in 2022 it should max out.
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I'm aware that they capture data to identify hotspot usage.
Seems that Verizon offer unlimited, after an allotted amount of data they reduce the speed but it's still unlimited..
If you're still getting 50-100Mb then that's perfectly fine...
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didn't realize verizon changed their plans to compete with t-mobile.
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As does t mobile.
3G max speed is 42Mb down... That's perfectly fine for most people tbh.
Seeing as it's 3G in 2022 it should max out.
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I will test that 40 gb hot spot limit and see if the speed drops afterwards. didn't realize they changed that. was only 5 gb tether when i signed up for the plan. it'll probably drop to 4G
btw, the unlimited i was talking about is without speed reduction.
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didn't realize verizon changed their plans to compete with t-mobile.
I will test that 40 gb hot spot limit and see if the speed drops afterwards. didn't realize they changed that. was only 5 gb tether when i signed up for the plan. it'll probably drop to 4G
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If it's there its there give it a whirl.
Tbh they probably do something similar in the UK but just lie to us and say it's "unlimited"
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As does t mobile.
3G max speed is 42Mb down... That's perfectly fine for most people tbh.
Seeing as it's 3G in 2022 it should max out.
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Holy spirit man, not only do you not know the answer to the OP's question other than aimlessly suggesting "magisk module", you decide to go to arms about market environments that you know nothing about. I don't tell you what's what in the UK, and you don't get to spread misguided misinformation for the US market.
"T-Mobile seems to be the only network selling a device that's a massive ballache to do anything with."
No, I've already stated this. Both ATT and VZW in the US lock their swans down more than TMO. TMO is by far the most dev friendly carrier if you wanted to get a carrier device. Buy manufacturer unlocked if you must, but if you want carrier deals, you are going to have the best option with TMO.
"My point is don't buy from T-Mobile, ever... Why would you if this is what they do to you?"
The phone is free or nearly free, that's why people put up with carrier phones, because of carrier deals. IDK about you, but I'm willing to go through the trouble of hacking up my devices than to pay an additional $800-$1000.
"Just checked with Verizon. They offer the device SIM free so your chatting bubbles pal"
Clueless reps at all 3 carriers will promise the flowering world, esp overseas chat reps. VERIZON DOES NOT EVER SELL SIM FREE, All VZW devices (even fully paid) will be SIM locked for 60 days as an "anti-fraud" measure. This even includes Verizon MVNOs. https://www.verizon.com/support/device-unlocking-policy/
Oh, and good luck ever accessing the bootloader of a VZW device.
"3G max speed is 42Mb down... That's perfectly fine for most people tbh."
"If you're still getting 50-100Mb then that's perfectly fine..."
Both offer unlimited at throttled speeds. Don't assume speed based on the technology. 50-100mbps isn't even normal on a good day for VZW LTE or DSS 5G
Verizon: After exceeding 50 GB/mo of 5G Ultra Wideband, 5G Nationwide, or 4G LTE data, you can still use hotspot at lower speeds of 3 Mbps when on 5G Ultra Wideband and 600 Kbps when on 5G Nationwide / 4G LTE for the rest of the month.
T-Mobile: "3G", but it is 600 Kbps on Magenta / Magenta Max
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Anyways, the OP's question's been answered, so I'm out. There are plenty of wireless hacking forums out there that can teach you to bypass restrictions that are against XDA rules and generally don't work on phones but other LTE/NR devices, Google it and you'll find it.
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Thanks for the replies thus far.
I am currently using easytether and Netshare, and both work pretty well for me. I would just love to be able to use the native option without third party apps.
I had read about editing the build prop in the past but never had the chance to try it out.
I'll look into the TTL/TCP comment that was made as well.
Thanks!
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Thanks for the replies thus far.
I am currently using easytether and Netshare, and both work pretty well for me. I would just love to be able to use the native option without third party apps.
I had read about editing the build prop in the past but never had the chance to try it out.
I'll look into the TTL/TCP comment that was made as well.
Thanks!
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that got patched ages ago, plus you can't access the build prop on this phone.