Should i upgrade my G1 to Cupcake? - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i have bought a G1 to use as my main phone, but also for application development
it is currently NOT on cupcake
should i upgrade or is it better for development to leave it as it is?
are there any benefits in not upgrading?
i'm guessing that i'll have to upgrade sooner or later though...

Yes....upgrade and root

yes
Upgrade. As of now there r now apps in the market make for 1.0 or 1.1 frimware. So it would be best to upgrade. Also is Ur g1 rooted. Becuase without root it cantt be fully utilized.

alritewhadeva said:
Yes....upgrade and root
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Man u always beat me to the punch. Lol my 3g hit a dead zone

pistol4413 said:
Man u always beat me to the punch. Lol my 3g hit a dead zone
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Lmao, I always use WiFi just because it's faster if I'm posting from my phone Anyway back on topic, to the OP do you have an ADP?

no, i have a G1
am i right in thinking it can only be upgraded to Cupcake using OTA?
This is bad if true, because i dont even have a data plan.
Also last night i reset the factory settings, now i can't even login, as i have no credit???
On WM I was used to booting into HardSPL and flashing the image like that, isn't there something similar on Android?

warsng said:
no, i have a G1
am i right in thinking it can only be upgraded to Cupcake using OTA?
This is bad if true, because i dont even have a data plan.
Also last night i reset the factory settings, now i can't even login, as i have no credit???
On WM I was used to booting into HardSPL and flashing the image like that, isn't there something similar on Android?
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Correct, why not just root your phone? You can install a great many number of incredible ROMS. Cupcake is available OTA but if you're not registered with T-Mobile I don't think you can get it. I believe you can though without a data paln.

Related

is flash player possible on the g1

Is the g1 ever going to get it or it isn't possible because the g1 doesn't have the capablity?
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mohsinkhan47 said:
Is the g1 ever going to get it or it isn't possible because the g1 doesn't have the capablity?
Those someone now the answer
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all Android will get flash 10 by the end of the year.
its currently in development by adobe. they have said that theyre hoping to release it this winter.
mohsinkhan47 said:
Is the g1 ever going to get it or it isn't possible because the g1 doesn't have the capablity?
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We already have it, update to Hero. Works for me.
imbonez9 said:
We already have it, update to Hero. Works for me.
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yeah i believe it's flash 9 right now. doesnt work on all pages yet but better than nothing.
hero flash
its not the best but it good enough for now...... it can load most pages that have flash, but its flash heavy site u will have hard time interacting with that page.
Its been asked quite a few times so hopefully searches will point to this thread in the future. As kusotare has mentioned, Adobe are working on it and even made parts of Flash open source for others to work on it.
Hero has it but its only Flash 9 but soon enough (most likely on better hardware) there will be much better flash support in terms of speed and usability.
Is it just me but i rilly don't care about flash on my phone.
i so know im about to get flamed for saying this ^ haha

Rooting an unlocked phone

hey there. I am about to buy an htc dream which is already unlocked. I want to root my phone so I was wondering if downgrading then rooting it would affect my unlocked status in any way?
Don't worry, your phone will still remain unlocked.
alright sweet, i was just a little worried because on another site (android forums) a user was saying that it may lose its unlocked status.
asb123 said:
hey there. I am about to buy an htc dream which is already unlocked. I want to root my phone so I was wondering if downgrading then rooting it would affect my unlocked status in any way?
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You might wanna wait though for upcoming phone in 2010 like Nexus that was rumored to be 199 unlocked but who knows might be less than 400 bux
My point is wait for something better since dream has very limited HW.
well i live in canada and we usually dont get access to nice phone right away, right now i am running an lg neon which is less than desirable. This would be my first smart phone so i will probably get it and keep it till 2011 or so. I appreciate your opinion though for sure.
Could I also get an answer for a thread link to the easiest method of rooting? I have heard about the instantroot.apk, would this work with an htc dream?
asb123 said:
well i live in canada and we usually dont get access to nice phone right away, right now i am running an lg neon which is less than desirable. This would be my first smart phone so i will probably get it and keep it till 2011 or so. I appreciate your opinion though for sure.
Could I also get an answer for a thread link to the easiest method of rooting? I have heard about the instantroot.apk, would this work with an htc dream?
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If you mean the GSM version then use this guide, it has a nice vid that should help out.
http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/22/how-to-root-the-mytouch-3g-or-g1-in-one-click/
Follow each step and dont skip any.The GSM Dream cant be used on rogers or telus i think, not sure if they use CDMA(no sim)
There is no CDMA Dream Never heard of telus but Rogers is GSM fo sho.
i want to use it with fido (fido's parent company is rogers (they use sim)) would this still work? also does this work with all firmwares?
Will what work? If your phone accepts the SIM for the carrier you want to use now then it always will.. If not then you'll need an unlock code. Try the one click root method using flashrec.apk and report back if that doesn't work....
alright cool, im buying the phone on friday so ill report back later. (using the method in the video to root my htc dream)
Could someone please explain what the difference between recovery and rom is.
asb123 said:
alright cool, im buying the phone on friday so ill report back later. (using the method in the video to root my htc dream)
Could someone please explain what the difference between recovery and rom is.
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A rom is like Win7 or linux and recovery mode is like DOS/CMD or maybe safe mode on a PC.The rom is flashed and the recovery mode is needed to flash custom roms from here and to flash themes.
ok sweet, you guys are actually a HUGE help in helping me understand this. So after i follow that video my phone will be "rooted" After that I go to install the latest rom from CG. Do i use the files in the video (the recovery file) or something better out now? also should i use the linda file manager he talks about or astro?
also what is DOUNT and cupcake.
oh right also do i need to install "CyangenMod Recovery IMG" what is it?
asb123 said:
also what is DOUNT and cupcake.
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Its the things google are giving out to the little android guy so he can get big and strong
Cupcake(1.5) Donut(1.6)
Dont worry just follow the directions then it will make sense along the way.
ic, cool. thanks a lot.
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also what is DOUNT and cupcake.
oh right also do i need to install "CyangenMod Recovery IMG" what is it?
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google names the updates after pastries. 1.5 is cupcake (1st version to have a soft keyboard) next is 1.6 donut (supports different screen sizes, new market, a bit snappier) and the latest is 2.0 eclair (what the droid has. not out for any other phones yet. refined browser, car home, and other cool features like navidation, you can get navigation on donut too though trough the market.)
gonintendo said:
google names the updates after pastries. 1.5 is cupcake (1st version to have a soft keyboard) next is 1.6 donut (supports different screen sizes, new market, a bit snappier) and the latest is 2.0 eclair (what the droid has. not out for any other phones yet. refined browser, car home, and other cool features like navidation, you can get navigation on donut too though trough the market.)
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about the navi, i heard that it only works in canada after a workaround but I would assume that it needs 3g for it to work which i do not have in my plan.
asb123 said:
about the navi, i heard that it only works in canada after a workaround but I would assume that it needs 3g for it to work which i do not have in my plan.
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Nav was fixed and works in all countries, but it eats alot of data.Edge works with google maps.
Ace42 said:
Nav was fixed and works in all countries, but it eats alot of data.Edge works with google maps.
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Since I do not have data I probably should not download this because the only internet i will be using is wifi. Does this phone have an option to turn off all data, to prevent accidental usage. (like the iphone)
Since I do not have data in my plan is their any reason for me to get this? i would think that google maps will suffice.
could somone also please exlplain SPL, from what i have read it is somesort of compatibility with roms, how can i check mine and does the latest CGM require a high SPL

I'm new to this whole .. rooting thing

Alright, so I just got a Rogers G1 and I would like to get THE smoothest, most fluid, feature-packed ROM. I have Android 1.5 right now. So.. where do I start? Thanks!
iMod_954 said:
Alright, so I just got a Rogers G1 and I would like to get THE smoothest, most fluid, feature-packed ROM. I have Android 1.5 right now. So.. where do I start? Thanks!
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Might wanna wait did you see this yet?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616344
Magics will be given to dream owners.
You should have gotten the magic since it has more ram and will be supported longer with updates.
You can always use search button or even simple google search:
"Rogers Dream+Root" heres one
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Dream_Rooting
Ace42 said:
Might wanna wait did you see this yet?
Magics will be given to dream owners.
You should have gotten the magic since it has more ram and will be supported longer with updates.
You can always use search button or even simple google search:
"Rogers Dream+Root" heres one
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Well.. I use AT&T's 3G, as I live in the US. So, I had to "import" it from Canada. I already have a jailbroken iPhone 3G S. So, I really don't want another touch screen phone with the same form factor. The G1 has the physical keyboard and seems like it could make a pretty good back-up phone. Do you think it's pointless for me to keep this G1, even if I get the latest and smoothest ROM available???
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Well.. I use AT&T's 3G, as I live in the US. So, I had to "import" it from Canada. I already have a jailbroken iPhone 3G S. So, I really don't want another touch screen phone with the same form factor. The G1 has the physical keyboard and seems like it could make a pretty good back-up phone. Do you think it's pointless for me to keep this G1, even if I get the latest and smoothest ROM available???
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Seems like you got the phone just for the KB and not the OS. You just need to read carefully so you dont end up bricking your phone.
Ace42 said:
Seems like you got the phone just for the KB and not the OS. You just need to read carefully so you dont end up bricking your phone.
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The HTC Dream is the only phone with Android that I can think of that has support for AT&T's 3G network AND a physical keyboard. The BACKFLIP is coming out, but ... yeah, I'll pass on the whole MOTOBLUR OS. Also, what are my chances of bricking the phone? Seeing as I've never done this before and have no clue where to start.
iMod_954 said:
The HTC Dream is the only phone with Android that I can think of that has support for AT&T's 3G network AND a physical keyboard. The BACKFLIP is coming out, but ... yeah, I'll pass on the whole MOTOBLUR OS. Also, what are my chances of bricking the phone? Seeing as I've never done this before and have no clue where to start.
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If you read everything you should have no problems with rooting it.
Ace42 said:
If you read everything you should have no problems with rooting it.
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Alright, so what's the fastest, smoothest and most feature-packed ROM available?
iMod_954 said:
Alright, so what's the fastest, smoothest and most feature-packed ROM available?
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You can worry about that later your jumping the gun already and your phone is still stock.
First you need to root and if your successful then you can worry about using roms.
Ace42 said:
You can worry about that later your jumping the gun already and your phone is still stock.
First you need to root and if your successful then you can worry about using roms.
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Haha.. Alright, sounds good.
So.. How hard is rooting? Is there a tutorial somewhere?

My son`s G1 help please

Hi all i hope someone can help me please, my son just got hold of a G1 now it comes with 1.6 android system as there being any release e.g. 2.0 or 2.1,
I dont want to root his phone unless theres a good working custom rom
Thanks
ownhd2 said:
Hi all i hope someone can help me please, my son just got hold of a G1 now it comes with 1.6 android system as there being any release e.g. 2.0 or 2.1,
I dont want to root his phone unless theres a good working custom rom
Thanks
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I'd wait til CM6 becomes final. 2.1 IMO just doesn't run well enough on G1's hardware. The speed is there, but apps get killed too easily for memory.
cigar3tte said:
I'd wait til CM6 becomes final. 2.1 IMO just doesn't run well enough on G1's hardware. The speed is there, but apps get killed too easily for memory.
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I disagree. I run 2.1 and it works just fine for me.
can teh man said:
I disagree. I run 2.1 and it works just fine for me.
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Well, I couldn't run Pandora and then check my email and do gchat. Pandora would shut off when I try to do other things. Didn't have SWAP set up. Didn't have this issue with 1.6.
can teh man said:
I disagree. I run 2.1 and it works just fine for me.
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is there any links please
There is a lot of good custom ROMs. Go check The Rom Bible and look at the ratings of every ROM there. You will find something good.
And I agree that Eclair is usable, but not to fast. You have to set up a swap partition to run it good enough to be a daily driver. However, you will not find as fast 2.1 ROM as stock Donut. G1 has too little RAM memory (processor is good enough). But something for something - if you once see 2.1 ROM you won't want to go back, trust me .
If you're looking for speed - check Dwang, it's very good.
BUT! Very much depends how your son will use the phone. If his gonna do a lot of multitasking and play with the phone 24/7 then he should stay on 1.6 or start reading how to really set up an Eclair ROM to run smooth. If he is really casual user then almost every ROM will be OK for him.
@up - The Rom Bible
can teh man is using Cyanogen 5.08.
can teh man said:
I disagree. I run 2.1 and it works just fine for me.
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2.1 sucks for multitasking. My widgets update 5 minutes late on average and sometimes they never do and I have to open the app to get them to update. Horrible.
r3s-rt said:
2.1 sucks for multitasking. My widgets update 5 minutes late on average and sometimes they never do and I have to open the app to get them to update. Horrible.
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that problem went away for me as soon as I ditched all Widgets that required a background dedicated service.. rather than just using the widget API to update from application data.
ezterry said:
that problem went away for me as soon as I ditched all Widgets that required a background dedicated service.. rather than just using the widget API to update from application data.
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Interesting.
If he's anything like my son, he'll be using the phone for messaging. I would definitely avoid Eclair and Froyo for now. No need to root it - stock 1.6 is fine for most everyday purposes. If he starts to want to install tons of apps, then you can root and start investigating your options.
lol that happened to me my first day having the phone >.<

[Q] Question about Rooting....

I just got Cricket service (couldn't pass up unlimited everything for $55 a month), and I got a used phone which so happens to be the HTC Hero, its flashed from Sprint, I would like to root the phone to get rid of all the sprint BS that's on there. If I root the phone will it still work as it is now?
yeah it,ll still be a phone and text machine,,,just without al the sprint BS,,,check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140850&highlight=beginners+guide it,ll help ya do what ya need to do;-] later man
Thanks man! I appreciate your help.
ProjektStreet said:
I just got Cricket service (couldn't pass up unlimited everything for $55 a month), and I got a used phone which so happens to be the HTC Hero, its flashed from Sprint, I would like to root the phone to get rid of all the sprint BS that's on there. If I root the phone will it still work as it is now?
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Go to my List of Attachments, and you'll find a app called z4root. Use that to Root your phone!
hell yeah PM good call. forgot about that one....turned retarded for a minute lol...later bro.
PM's a good guy to have with ya man, if you ask him he Will answer, and if he cant (which is pretty rare) he,ll point you to someone that can. hes been around the heroc forum for a while....later man. good luck.
You know what a good rom would be that will work for Cricket?
ProjektStreet said:
You know what a good rom would be that will work for Cricket?
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I'm Honestly not to familiar with Cricket, But I'm pretty sure that Most of the Hero Roms will work! As long as its a Cdma Rom you should be Good...
PMGRANDS said:
Go to my List of Attachments, and you'll find a app called z4root. Use that to Root your phone!
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Where is your List of Attachments?
Robbie_G said:
Where is your List of Attachments?
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You have to go to Full Web View I believe in order to see them... Then go to Control Panel (CP) and look all the way to the Left!
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Nevermind man here you go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/profile.php?do=editattachments&page=3
6th App Down...
attached z4root
I'd go with CM7 as a first rom. it works well, and is pretty fast.
ProjektStreet said:
You know what a good rom would be that will work for Cricket?
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have to agree with dragoon there, just starting out go with CM 7.0.3 or 7.1.0. easy to flash ,theme and tweek. good for a starter.
Well Ive had a rooted phone before. This is actually a down grade from what I had which was the MyTouch 4G. I used CM7 on that and loved it so I might have to give it a shot.

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