im a tech for ATT and i have digested soo much info about taking apart the HTC g1 and the fix for a HTC g1 boot screen freeze IS..........wait for it. calling up HTC and telling them that " while i was in process of doing a OTA update the screen froze and wouldn't let me boot up" and something to note the dumber you sound the better like do not let them know that you know anything technical about the phone after they take your info they will ask for a CC number for a triage assurance (meaning if they find out that you broke the either dropping it or water damage youll be charged for them to send you back the phone).
What they will do is run a diagnostics test to see what the issue is soo if you bricked the motherboard then there is no way of telling if you rooted or unlocked the phone. i know this because i did it and it worked all it costed me was 28 bucks for shipping.
try out this method best of luck!!!!!
Or you can do what I did and take it to a tmobile store and get a new one without paying for shipping
That's DAMN lucky all my local store refuse to swap out phones, they say its done all on the phone with warranty exchange, I'm on my 5th phone, and now have a warranty returns managers personal cell number for if this one [email protected]%&@ up
5 phones!?
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Hey I tried to unlock my HTC touch diamond with an unlocking software. In the process the cell phone suddenly turned off and now it is not working at all. Not turning on .. even not charging up the battery. In short look like no sign of life in the mobile phone. I tried every thing nothing work. I do have the warranty but dont have the reciept.
What can i do with this situation . any ideas how can i atleast make the phone start??? you exeriences and ideas??
thanls
sooo, you used the unlocker from ppcgeeks, which is fr cdma phones (and I'm not sure it its unlocking anything at all). Anyway - the only way to fix it is to send it to the service centre. If the phone is still on guarantee, there's big chance, that they will not be able to boot it, and replace the mainboard.
Good luck!
what if i dont have the recipt? no proof of purchase... i bought it from a friend and he lost the recipt for it . I know the fone has atleast 4 months warranty left .. but what else i should do.. again thanks for the reply ..
You're SOL buddy.
Exact same thing happened to me about 6 weeks after I bought my Diamond. Cost me $130 on the insurance claim to get a new one.
Obviously I haven't tried it a second time....
why u paid 130$ if you had insurance???
It was an insurance claim, not a warranty claim, and therefore I'm responsible for part of the replacement cost....sort of like the deductible for your medical or car insurance.
for T-Mobile G1 if it's still been under a year since first purchase?
errrr once? I don't fully understand the question but if your phone breaks whilst it's under warranty you can get it replaced. I then imagine the replacement comes with a years warranty too.
That is, unless you voided the warranty, then you're screwed
Meltus said:
errrr once? I don't fully understand the question but if your phone breaks whilst it's under warranty you can get it replaced. I then imagine the replacement comes with a years warranty too.
That is, unless you voided the warranty, then you're screwed
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I think he means that if he breaks it then breaks another one and so one, will he be able to get a new one. I would assume HTC would catch on and stop sending you replacements.
Well, do you pay for insurance?
T-Mobile will only replace your phone for certain things. If you drop and break your phone, physical damage, they will NOT replace it. This is why you pay for insurance through your Network Provider (T-Mobile in this case).
Now if you're having software issues, maybe your camera stopped working, or you bricked your phone, you can get T-Mobile to replace it for free, however you need to explain yourself correctly. If you brick your phone, tell them you received and OTA update, and now your phone won't boot up. Or if it is something legitimate like your Camera stopped working for w/e reason (I've had to replace x1 of my G1's because of this, and I received a new one, free of charge), explain that to them, "One day it stopped working, and hasn't worked sense", blah blah. They're probably try and instruct you over the phone to do a wipe/factory reset, just go along with it, and remember: ALWAYS PLAY DUMB.
Anyways, to answer your question:
-if pay for insurance, then yes, you can break your phone as many times as you want, however you have a co-pay to pay (It was $130, it might be less now).
-If you've broken your phone, and don't have insurance, either replace it yourself, or you're screwed.
-If you've bricked your phone, or have some kind of software issue, you can get it replaced for free, as long as you do it right.
Hope that answers your question.
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I think he means that if he breaks it then breaks another one and so one, will he be able to get a new one. I would assume HTC would catch on and stop sending you replacements.
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yes this is indeed what i mean. thanks for the help both of you.
personal experience..
I got 6 blackberry pearls in a span of 10 months when they first came out...
Long story short HTC Rocks!!!!!!!
I purchased my lovely nexus one in Feb, as soon as i convinced my wife why a $529 phone was worth it.
I rooted the phone almost seconds after I unboxed it and never looked back.
4 Months later i started having problems with the power/lock key not responding.
First i thought it was a ROM issue so i tried a few debugging techniques, No such luck.
Then after research i discover this was a known hardware issue.
Crap!! I voided that warranty with a smile on my face and now i may have to pay for it to be repaired.
To hell with that, i have fixed my Palm Tungsten, Blackberry and countless other consumer electronic devices ill fix this too.
I bust out my precision screwdriver set and the case pry tool and find a dis-assembly tutorial on the net. Warranty already void i think nothing of breaking the case seals. But alas i cannot seem to repair the button.
I break down and call HTC repair hot-line. I present the following.
Do you sell parts for repair ---- No sir we do not.
Is there are known issue with the power button ---- Yes there is
I setup a repair ticket.
I tell them i have rooted the phone and am proud of it.
The rep explains that with the phone being rooted it would be out of warranty repair.
They would be re-locking the phone, which is accomplished by replacing the motherboard entirely and i would owe the $196 for that service.
I also explain that i have broken the seals in an attempt to repair the phone
The tech gulps and tells me that i will also have to pay for any damage done while disassembling the phone.
she then writes on the ticket
"Issue Description: defective power button, cx has rooted the phone, and broke the seals in an attempt to repair the device."
SO Everyone is aware that i voided the warranty, the rep the service tech
I knew i would have to pay, so i waited for the email with the quoted price and i would shell out my credit-card and suck it up.
I received an email they received my package
I checked the repair website every couple hours.
I called them every day.
I never received an email for a price authorization.
I called and spoke with a rep who told me my phone was in post-repair testing and should be shipped out soon.
WHAT!!!! THEY REPAIRED IT AS A WARRANTY REPAIR!!!!!!!
I Cannot believe it, but it is on a fed-ex truck destine for my house today!!!
Holy Crap!!!! HTC Rocks.
Is this windfall of fortune because the part that was defective was the same part they would have had to replace because of boot-loader re-locking ???
Who has other experiences.
I searched for threads of peoples repair experiences but found few. I desperately needed to have an idea of what was happening to my beloved phone
HTC seems to be honoring the warranty if it's a hardware problem, even if you've unlocked your bootloader. I haven't had problems with it, but from what I've read that power button tends to go bad. If mine does, I'll call HTC (and not mention the unlocked bootloader), then when I get the phone back I'll do the root-without-unlocking method.
But yeah, HTC seems to have pretty stellar support for their hardware. Can't complain about that.
My similar experience here, but scroll up for a bad experience with a service center outside the US: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7076177#post7076177
They sure have very good customer service in the US...but for the repair center, well I can only say they are horrible!
My experience with them here
same problem as me. Got mine back today, and rooted it again. I didn't feel like cutting the sim card slot up and stuff.
They told me that I should ship mine back to HTC because (since frf50) it's been freezing and I need to pull the battery to restart. I don't want to though.
suicide_trend said:
Long story short HTC Rocks!!!!!!!
I purchased my lovely nexus one in Feb, as soon as i convinced my wife why a $529 phone was worth it.
I rooted the phone almost seconds after I unboxed it and never looked back.
4 Months later i started having problems with the power/lock key not responding.
First i thought it was a ROM issue so i tried a few debugging techniques, No such luck.
Then after research i discover this was a known hardware issue.
Crap!! I voided that warranty with a smile on my face and now i may have to pay for it to be repaired.
To hell with that, i have fixed my Palm Tungsten, Blackberry and countless other consumer electronic devices ill fix this too.
I bust out my precision screwdriver set and the case pry tool and find a dis-assembly tutorial on the net. Warranty already void i think nothing of breaking the case seals. But alas i cannot seem to repair the button.
I break down and call HTC repair hot-line. I present the following.
Do you sell parts for repair ---- No sir we do not.
Is there are known issue with the power button ---- Yes there is
I setup a repair ticket.
I tell them i have rooted the phone and am proud of it.
The rep explains that with the phone being rooted it would be out of warranty repair.
They would be re-locking the phone, which is accomplished by replacing the motherboard entirely and i would owe the $196 for that service.
I also explain that i have broken the seals in an attempt to repair the phone
The tech gulps and tells me that i will also have to pay for any damage done while disassembling the phone.
she then writes on the ticket
"Issue Description: defective power button, cx has rooted the phone, and broke the seals in an attempt to repair the device."
SO Everyone is aware that i voided the warranty, the rep the service tech
I knew i would have to pay, so i waited for the email with the quoted price and i would shell out my credit-card and suck it up.
I received an email they received my package
I checked the repair website every couple hours.
I called them every day.
I never received an email for a price authorization.
I called and spoke with a rep who told me my phone was in post-repair testing and should be shipped out soon.
WHAT!!!! THEY REPAIRED IT AS A WARRANTY REPAIR!!!!!!!
I Cannot believe it, but it is on a fed-ex truck destine for my house today!!!
Holy Crap!!!! HTC Rocks.
Is this windfall of fortune because the part that was defective was the same part they would have had to replace because of boot-loader re-locking ???
Who has other experiences.
I searched for threads of peoples repair experiences but found few. I desperately needed to have an idea of what was happening to my beloved phone
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you are lucky
Has anyone been able to dispute a repair charge and does anyone know if there would be charges if the power button was not working?
I just want to share my story and am wondering if investing $400 of repair charges on top of a $530 phone is worth it.
4/7/10 - Purchased N1 (Compatible with 3G on AT&T U.S.) from Google Webstore.
6/7/10 - Begin having 3G data & phone signal loss in New Orleans. Contacted AT&T and was told they were having tower issues in the area. Spent one week using 2G instead.
6/13/10 - Went to AT&T store to check on service. Got a brand new SIM card that worked on another phone. At this point, carrier issue has been ruled out
6/14/10 - Phoned N1 support, performed a master reset and then got transferred to HTC for warranty support. It was either replacement or repair. Chose replacement option.
6/17/10 - Received replacement phone and shipped my original phone back to them the very next day.
6/23/10 - Received email for a $196(!) repair quotation. Phoned into HTC support and was told that it was a customer induced motherboard damage. I asked for more details on the damage & charge, and customer service said that they need information from the "warehouse" and get back to me. Never heard back from CS.
7/10/10 - New replacement phone shut off by itself and could not be powered back on.
7/11/10 - Called N1 support and performed master reset which did not work. Got transferred to HTC support but a case cannot be opened because the previous case was still outstanding. The customer serivce rep confirmed that the case notes stated that I had called for more information, and they were supposed to get back to me. I was told that I need to talk to a supervisor for further support and they do not work on weekends.
7/12/10 - Called HTC support and spoke to a supervisor. Basically she told me that my options are
my options are either to pay the $196 and close the case or wait up to 48 hours to get the details back from the "warehouse". Either way, no replacement can be processed until the previous case is closed. I was told that there is no way to:
1. Get the open case closed temporarily so a replacement for my current issue can be dealt with.
2. No other person beyond the supervisor(s) I can talk to.
3. No way to escalate to the wareshouse to speed up 48 hours needed on getting the previous repair details.
4. No one can do anything else for a customer who is going through an exception situation.
5. No clear instructions on how to dispute a repair quotation.
All customer service reps sounded pleasant but HTC has procedures that do not support customer satisfaction. Here are somethings that I find completely unsatisfying. Neither phones have been rooted, tempered with, dropped, or water damage on neither device.
1. First let's talk about 2 defective phones.
2. Sending repair quote to customers demanding payment without more information is unacceptable.
3. Blaming customer for self-induced damange while there is a known 3G issue for the N1.
4. Not getting back to customer on repair details is also unacceptable.
5. Not being able to open more than one case is absurd. In my situation, we're dealing with 2 different issues but for some reason, one is related to the other in the system.
6. Where is the repair charge dispute process documentation?
7. The is no exception to the "normal" escalation process is a huge gap. Basically I was told that after the supervisor level, it goes to the "warehouse". No one can talk to the wareshouse without going through the 48 hour escalation process.
8. Tell customer that damage maybe water related when the battery has no record of such.
You studiously do not deny self induced damage.did you break it? We're not here to play guessing games.
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Hi
I faced a similar situation as you. My power button went wonky and I sent it in to HTC for servicing. It was a very tiring ordeal for me.
The HTC support (in Singapore) kept insisting that my motherboard needed a replacement and they wanted to charge me for it as I had an unlocked bootloader and was unable to claim warranty.
I kept arguing with their phone support that I just wanted my power button fixed and I was skeptical that that required a motherboard replacement. They kept insisting that I needed to replace my motherboard in order fix the power button.
As I was getting nowhere with phone support( I spent 3 days arguing with them) I made a trip down to their service center to try to speak to the engineer actually servicing my phone.
Had a similar argument with the CSO there who repeated the same BS to me and finally said she will go inside and have the engineer come out to explain further. So I waited. After several minutes (of which i believe she was informing him that there was an angry customer outside), she emerged alone and said they will wave the charges for the button repair.
Do you know what disgusts me the most about this entire ordeal?
When i finally received my phone back from them, they repaired my power button but my boot loader remained unlocked!
They did not need to replace my motherboard!
IMO, HTC simply wanted to replace the motherboard cos I had an unlocked bootloader. What better way to make easy money then to milk me with an unnecessary but expensive repair simply cos I voided my warranty. It' s unethical and personally, HTC has lost any future business from me.
It ironic as I bought my phone from Google.
caysman said:
You studiously do not deny self induced damage.did you break it? We're not here to play guessing games.
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I'm putting my money on an unlocked bootloader
No I have not unlocked or rooted neither phones. My replacement N1 received the Froyo push. I did not even install it myself. Seriously there was no tempering, dropping, or water damage on neither device.
I would agree that HTC is passing repair charges to customers because it makes good business sense. It'll be highly unlikely that I am going to purchase another HTC phone.
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All customer service reps sounded pleasant but HTC has procedures that do not support customer satisfaction.
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Exactly my thought. I've had my phone repaired for almost a whole month now and I still have no hope of getting it back.
The customer service is nice but they are absolutely useless. Everything regarding the actual status of the phone has to be initiated by the escalation team or warehouse, and I highly doubt that they give a **** of the customers.
TangBiz said:
No I have not unlocked or rooted neither phones. My replacement N1 received the Froyo push. I did not even install it myself. Seriously there was no tempering, dropping, or water damage on neither device.
I would agree that HTC is passing repair charges to customers because it makes good business sense. It'll be highly unlikely that I am going to purchase another HTC phone.
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Has this been resolved?
If you haven't unlocked the bootloader, then there's no reason to charge you for the repair. Definitely talk to a supervisor and don't be afraid to insist that the phone if fully covered under warranty and they need to replace the unit or repair it.
I guess HTC support is 50/50, i've read that many HTC sends over a new phone the next day i guess it depends on certain malfunctions they do that. You should find out on what malfucntions do they send phones right away, and claim that as the problem.
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I guess HTC support is 50/50, i've read that many HTC sends over a new phone the next day i guess it depends on certain malfunctions they do that. You should find out on what malfucntions do they send phones right away, and claim that as the problem.
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I'm getting my rooted/unlocked phone repaired for free. So yeah, it really is 50/50!
My headphone jack started wigging out and thinking there was a headset plugged in when there wasn't. I also explained that I started to see dust coming in underneath the screen in the bottom left corner.
I opted for a replacement. I got it the next day. New one is great. Bootloader was unlocked and no charge was issued.
I would be livid. How old was the original phone with the "broken motherboard"? April? Well all hardware defects are covered up to 1 year. If the phone casing shows no physical signs of abuse yet the motherboard is broken... then that is a ringer that it is a manufacture defect.... especially if you'd had the phone for 2 months.
If there are no signs of physical damage and the water sticker is clean then you have full entitlement to your warranty. This includes motherboard replacements.
Hi everyone.
Like myself, I'm sure a lot of you LOVE this phone, and, again like myself, bought it and unlocked it to use with Rogers and don't have the option of taking it to Bell to get it fixed after this fiasco of a fried internal sd. So we're potentially stuck with the most beautiful brick in our hands right now, knowing what it is fully capable of.
If anyone else has been in these same exact shoes (fried internal sd, unlocked on Rogers, no Bell option to fix - regardless of before or after 2.2 update) and has gotten their phone repaired, could you please lend a helpful post to the community and recommend to us where you got it fixed, how long it took, and how much it cost? I live in Toronto, and I'm looking for Toronto/GTA options to get it fixed.
This is by far the best phone I have ever used, and would love to get it working again soon.
Thanks!
-Depressed SGS Owner
Bring it to bell
I believe bell is obligated to take your phone and send it for repair, given you have the receipt.
There have been a number of people in your situation where they purchased it off contract to use on another carrier and have sent it into bell for repair when it bricked.
one example I found. says he got bell to honor the warranty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWVA8kj0BKo&feature=related
just prepare yourself to be without your phone for a while. i send my phone in on December 3rd and parts for repair are apparently on back order until January 3rd
BTW you can check repair status here.
http://www.bell.ca/support/PrsCSrvWls_MgAcSrMobility_Eform.page
o and i would leave out the fact that you unlocked your phone too.....dont want to give them a reason to not send it for repair now do we.
all the informations are one of those long internal sdcard dead threads. it's been repeated over and over in those threads...
Just curious, any reports of someone in the US getting I9000M warranty honored?
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Contact Samsung Canada directly. Word is that they are starting to take repairs as well.
Androiderer and Beast, and everyone else, thanks for the helpful replies!!
I decided to just go through Samsung Canada themselves, and I wrote the following in one of the other threads:
Samsung Electronics Canada Inc.
1-800-726-7864
Second call got through, first went to voicemail, redialed right away. Talking to them now.
So during the call, I was told that I would have to take the phone back to where I bought it and send it in from there. I then advised the guy I was talking to that I had read that other people were able to get Samsung to send out the shipping label and do the repair. He double checked and confirmed it, and is in the process of preparing the repair order right now. Have the phone handy, because they will ask for the phone's Serial Number (S/N) behind the battery. 7-14 days business days is the estimated repair time, and no cost. He estimated the label will take about 24 hours or less to be e-mailed to me. Hope this information helps. All told the process took about 20 minutes, depending on the knowledge of the csr.
Good luck everyone....
Doing it this way, I never had to leave the warmth of my office lol. The phone is now in a box with the label, waiting to be picked up.
LUCKILY I hadn't sold my old HTC Tytn II Kaiser that I have Android flashed on, so I don't have to go Android-less!! Man that phone is so reliable...it's a massive brick, but so reliable...I was going to sell it, but now I think it will remain a permanent mainstay as my trusty Android backup phone. I may even consider getting another HTC phone for Android, and sell this Samsung Jekyll and Hyde machine :S
Again, thanks everyone for your help.
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Androiderer and Beast, and everyone else, thanks for the helpful replies!!
I decided to just go through Samsung Canada themselves, and I wrote the following in one of the other threads:
Samsung Electronics Canada Inc.
1-800-726-7864
Second call got through, first went to voicemail, redialed right away. Talking to them now.
So during the call, I was told that I would have to take the phone back to where I bought it and send it in from there. I then advised the guy I was talking to that I had read that other people were able to get Samsung to send out the shipping label and do the repair. He double checked and confirmed it, and is in the process of preparing the repair order right now. Have the phone handy, because they will ask for the phone's Serial Number (S/N) behind the battery. 7-14 days business days is the estimated repair time, and no cost. He estimated the label will take about 24 hours or less to be e-mailed to me. Hope this information helps. All told the process took about 20 minutes, depending on the knowledge of the csr.
Good luck everyone....
Doing it this way, I never had to leave the warmth of my office lol. The phone is now in a box with the label, waiting to be picked up.
LUCKILY I hadn't sold my old HTC Tytn II Kaiser that I have Android flashed on, so I don't have to go Android-less!! Man that phone is so reliable...it's a massive brick, but so reliable...I was going to sell it, but now I think it will remain a permanent mainstay as my trusty Android backup phone. I may even consider getting another HTC phone for Android, and sell this Samsung Jekyll and Hyde machine :S
Again, thanks everyone for your help.
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Anything special you said in your conversation? I called Samsung twice and they did not know about the whole shipping label via email thing, insisted on going to the service provider.
Hey that's great news. let us know how long it takes to get your phone back.