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Split Mms Roms

Mods forgive me or move this if i put it in the wrong place
Why are all the kaiser roms with JOINED MMS
I hate the joined MMS/SMS
And no matter what i do I cant get them to seperate
Is there a specific path to take with kaiser roms
on my hermes i could just install a cab i have for SPLIT MMS
it does nothing on my kaiser
**Someone HELP Please**
i have been all through the boards searching for how to fix
but only thing i fund was that Dutty's old rom had split mms

OKAY 57 views and no posts
An expert please HELP ??
I like split mms and i like Palm threaded
Niether of which i seem to be able to get on my KAISER
WHAT GIVES?

tramane said:
OKAY 57 views and no posts
An expert please HELP ??
I like split mms and i like Palm threaded
Niether of which i seem to be able to get on my KAISER
WHAT GIVES?
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Well first of all, most people probably just didn't answer because this question should have been a new thread in the rom DEVELOPMENT forum.
Second, to get split sms/mms you only need to install an older version of archsoft mms, like the one in my cabs folder linked in my signature. Make sure to soft reset immediately before you install the cab.
I never liked palm threaded text messaging, so i can't tell you if it works on wm6.1 roms, but all WM6.1 roms have threaded messaging already.
Both of these answers could have easily been found using the search function on the site.

tramane, i personally can't help you on this but i do know that Dutty has done this from some of his roms if you want to check there or contact him for some help. If he is able to help you out please post here so others can see what needs to be done.
I too like the split SMS and MMS but ever since i stopped using Dutty's roms i haven't had that and i've learned to deal with it. Although i have a PIM backup that i can only get the MMS from if i have those two split so yeah please let us know.

otherreligion said:
tramane, i personally can't help you on this but i do know that Dutty has done this from some of his roms if you want to check there or contact him for some help. If he is able to help you out please post here so others can see what needs to be done.
I too like the split SMS and MMS but ever since i stopped using Dutty's roms i haven't had that and i've learned to deal with it. Although i have a PIM backup that i can only get the MMS from if i have those two split so yeah please let us know.
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read the post above you, it does work, though personally i like them combined.

scotchua said:
Well first of all, most people probably just didn't answer because this question should have been a new thread in the rom DEVELOPMENT forum.
Second, to get split sms/mms you only need to install an older version of archsoft mms, like the one in my cabs folder linked in my signature. Make sure to soft reset immediately before you install the cab.
I never liked palm threaded text messaging, so i can't tell you if it works on wm6.1 roms, but all WM6.1 roms have threaded messaging already.
Both of these answers could have easily been found using the search function on the site.
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No disrespect
But I DID that
Thats what I said i my post
Im no super noob, i been flashing hacking and unlocking for a minute
I just wasnt posting,
But all in all, from what i gather noone has been able to get the palm app working on kaiser, which baffles me. Why would it work on the hermes?
Im assumin becuase the palm and hermes have OMAP processors
And when the mms function checks for available emory to complete the operation it fails and gives an OUT OF MEMORY error
IMHO the palm app kills the wm6.1 on pure speed
ITS MUCH FASTER
But im gonna try again to install arcsoft mms 4.2.8.1 and see if that works
I wasnt quite sure if this belonged in development/hacking or the rom section, So my apologies on location
THANKS for the info!!
I LOVE THIS PLACE

tramane said:
No disrespect
But I DID that
Thats what I said i my post
Im no super noob, i been flashing hacking and unlocking for a minute
I just wasnt posting,
But all in all, from what i gather noone has been able to get the palm app working on kaiser, which baffles me. Why would it work on the hermes?
Im assumin becuase the palm and hermes have OMAP processors
And when the mms function checks for available emory to complete the operation it fails and gives an OUT OF MEMORY error
IMHO the palm app kills the wm6.1 on pure speed
ITS MUCH FASTER
But im gonna try again to install arcsoft mms 4.2.8.1 and see if that works
I wasnt quite sure if this belonged in development/hacking or the rom section, So my apologies on location
THANKS for the info!!
I LOVE THIS PLACE
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Well to begin with, i meant it shouldn't be in the rom development, lol, but i think they moved it anyway to software.
I know there was a palm sms/mms app that was used on WM6.0 for the kaiser, but i never used it on WM6.1. I know many people used it cause it threaded the messages. You could try to hunt that down, just make sure you disable threaded messaging in kaisertweaks first just to be safe. Like i said, i've never tried it. If i find the link then i'll hook you up with it in a bit.

scotchua said:
Well to begin with, i meant it shouldn't be in the rom development, lol, but i think they moved it anyway to software.
I know there was a palm sms/mms app that was used on WM6.0 for the kaiser, but i never used it on WM6.1. I know many people used it cause it threaded the messages. You could try to hunt that down, just make sure you disable threaded messaging in kaisertweaks first just to be safe. Like i said, i've never tried it. If i find the link then i'll hook you up with it in a bit.
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Thanx Scotchua
Hey i installed the new ROMeOS
it has split ms/sms
So i installed the palm threaded and use the palm for texting
And the wm6.1 default for mms
Works so far
There arent any wm6.0 roms left are there?
becuase there are speed enhancements with 6.1 correct?

tramane said:
Thanx Scotchua
Hey i installed the new ROMeOS
it has split ms/sms
So i installed the palm threaded and use the palm for texting
And the wm6.1 default for mms
Works so far
There arent any wm6.0 roms left are there?
becuase there are speed enhancements with 6.1 correct?
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Well I'd really assume it's just because everyone is porting stuff from the diamond/xperia/omnia/raphael and all those are only wm6.1.
Also nobody wants to cook something old when there's something new. Plus they did add some enhancements related to screen rotation...mostly it's just the new and shiny thing...i never used wm6.0 much so i don't know.

HELP: Can't use PIM Backup after ROM update to WM 6.1

Hi everybody
I have upgraded to the official HTC WM 6.1 ROM... and I did not like that much.
naturally I wanted to change to another ROM, so I opened PIM Backup 2.8, and tried to create a backup of my contacts and SMSs ...
the Problem is the is NO "NEXT" button...
I can't complete the backup process...
and I don't want to risk using ActiveSync... I had all my contacts deleted once because of it.
PIM backup works in restoring info.. but I can't get it to backup
I have been searching the forum for the last three days to find a solution...but digging in through 94 pages of the same topic gave me nothing but headaches
I might have missed something....if so... Please share with me...
thanks in advance
P.S: I found that the device became a bit unresponsive after restoring my contacts ans SMS using PIM backup on WM 6.1, does anybody have something like that?

I could be talking out of my **** (wouldn't be the first time ), but I seem to remember reading somewhere on the forum that you need to disable the Threaded SMS before running PIM backup - assuming you've left it "ON" which is the default for WM6.1?? You can use Schaps' Advanced Config to disable it.
PIM backup works on my WM6.1 ROM (Garmin.DK.3 - Threaded SMS turned off) - have you tried just ticking the Contacts and not the Messages to see if the Next button is enabled then??
Mark.

yeah, I have tried that before, and it did not work for me
I'll try search the registry and delete anything related to PIM Backup... then use it again...
BTW, I love your signature

I just updated my Tilt to 6.1 and found out after I did that the Sprint backup that comes with the Tilt has to be upgraded. I had to hard reset my phone and start over. You can get the newer version from HTC for free as an upgrade. The problem I had was with the Tilt saying my email accounts were locked and none of the fixes would work, but I read other post about other problems as well.

I'm using HyperDragon III pro ROM, and the problem is still there...
any ideas?

duke911 said:
I'm using HyperDragon III pro ROM, and the problem is still there...
any ideas?
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Have you posted on the PIMbackup thread (here) - if not, you could try that?? If you have, and you've got no (satisfactory) response, you could always email Fred - DotFred - via his website.
Not wishing to cast aspersions, but, have you gone down the RTFM route - the PIMbackup user guide is on www.dotfred.net if you haven't already got it.
One last thing.....you could check out the tutorial from @scotchua's signature (link here) - which suggest that PowerSMS may also work. There's a 14-day unrestricted trial on the website here.
That's me all out of ideas - hope this lot gets you where you wanna be
Mark.

Old threaded sms in new Manilla?

Hey!
Most of the cooked roms are now using the new Manila version of the threaded sms. And all though I like most of the roms out there, I have a big problem with the new Manila way of writing sms. So...
- How do I go about changing the threaded sms back to the old version?
I.e.: When I click on a received sms on the Messages tab in Manila, I want it to go to the standard Windows threaded sms view.
Cheers!

I'd like this too, the Windows version was clean yet slick.

if you click on "all messages" instead of the sms, it'll open the old way.

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if you click on "all messages" instead of the sms, it'll open the old way.
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Yes, I know that one. But that doesn't really account for a fix now, does it?
What I'm after is only the sms solution from the old Manila.
My guess is that it's not that a difficult configuration thing (since it's only in the last couple of weeks that the "new sms way" has appeared).
If you try an old version of Manila and view/send sms from there, I think you'll see what I want in terms of functionality...

True the old way is still there, but it'd be nice to revert but to it completely without sacrificing all the other fantastic Manilla improvements.

im also looking for a way to get this to work.
did anyone find anything out?
thanks.

Count me in too....

Me too..

Me three!

Me four!
The new Manila SMS looks good, but is really inferior to the WinMo default in terms of functionality.

Me too. I'd love to use the default threaded SMS of WindowMobile. Becoz the new threaded SMS of new Manila is very slow do appear.
Are there any solutions or registry to fix this matter?
Thanks

Any solution? I'd like old threaded sms back too...

Anyone? Can't someone from the ROM Gurus help?

Someone will have to edit the lua script responsible for it. I would... but I actually like the Manila SMS and clicking All Messages is not really THAT bad compared to the pain the ass of editing the lua script

NRGZ28 said:
Someone will have to edit the lua script responsible for it. I would... but I actually like the Manila SMS and clicking All Messages is not really THAT bad compared to the pain the ass of editing the lua script
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I can donate for your efforts! Can't afford much but atleast for a beer of two, and I'm sure that trere will be more people ready to donate a little for this!

NRGZ28 said:
Someone will have to edit the lua script responsible for it. I would... but I actually like the Manila SMS and clicking All Messages is not really THAT bad compared to the pain the ass of editing the lua script
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Could you please help me by pointing me in the right direction?
(i.e: where the script is located, and how to edit it)

anything new on the matter?

Did anyone find a solution ?

I posted a solution ages ago, cant even remember where.. ah found it
Basically when you click the sms icon in manila tab it drops back to winmo client,is that what you want?
All it takes is to use an older version of the manila file I think..
Any way as it's a cab it's uninstallable if it doesnt work for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=189081&d=1243378698

Works great! Thanks a lot, I've been looking for this for hours

Problem with sms'ing in Topaz based ROMs

Hey there!
Since i havent got answers in the threads of the ROMs, I thought maybe through my own thread i could find people experiencing similar issues.
my problem is as follows:
when i click on a sms directly out of manila so the contact tab pops up with my threaded messages, i can type and everything but everytime i'm clicking send it won't..
The only thing it does is to display a new message in my inbox which is empty. no sender, no text etc.
Sms'ing works nice when responding via the Inbox, but you know, that's 2 more clicks.. ;-)
this happens only with the Topaz based contact tab!
thx for reading and im looking forward to some help!
best greetings

hmm...seems like it's no common problem...what a shame =(

I think you will find if you read the threads (duttys 3.7 is a good one) that the sms issue is based on maila and not the rom, also that it has something to due with the unicode sorting.
To verify if the Topaz roms doi in fact have an issue I would think the Tpoaz section of our site would be a better choice.
We also have other topics on SMS issues in this section.
Please don't bump your own thread.

First: Thanks for responding!
The strange thing is that, after i flashed a new rom, the first few sms are handled normally, even through this contact-form. But after a while, like say first soft reset or so, it wont work again. Even though my settings are completely the same...
I'll try to check out the Topaz section and try to find a solution..

solved. sms bug is fixed with manila 2.1 (f.e. in duttys 3.7)
thank you very much dutty at this point ;-)

[Q] Phone freezing when closing text messages, with all WM6.5 Roms

First of all, sorry if this is a re-post. But after searching all morning, I couldn´t find any solutions for this.
My phone constantly freezes after I check my text messages, when closing.
This happens with all WM 6.5 roms I tried so far (and believe me, I tried many).
Is there a fix for this? Anyone else experiencing the same problem?
I do have a lot of text messages stored. Is it a capacity problem of some sort?
Thanks in advance for you help.

i have the same problem, it freezes for like 1 minute after hitting the X or menu>close after sending an SMS in native windows SMS threaded mode.
it works fine in manila but if a incoming call interrupts your text it would be gone after the call...

first of all you have to remember that WM 6.5 is not for the HD and is being ported so there will be issues, however I dont seem to have this issue at all and am using Duttys 6.5 v4 ROM which kicks ass.
It does seem to be a strange issue though. How many texts do you have stored. I have ad 600+ (incoming and outgoing)
does the manila work fine for sending? as this backs onto the WM interface i would expect some issue here

Thanks for the replys guys
I also have 600+ messages as, for personal reasons, I should not delete most of them.
I'm using standard wm interface and sending and all works fine. Only issue is that phone completely freezes when I hit the X for closing the messaging window. Sometimes it freezes for a minute or so, other times I have to turn the phone off and on again.
At first I thought this was a wm6.5 glitch, but now I see not many ppl has this. I will flash rom again and strip my phone from all aditional apps I installed. Maybe one of them is causing this...

simplistian said:
i have the same problem, it freezes for like 1 minute after hitting the X or menu>close after sending an SMS in native windows SMS threaded mode.
it works fine in manila but if a incoming call interrupts your text it would be gone after the call...
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Well I have a WM6.5 Rom working on my HD for already 2 weeks now and it's working perfectly. I don't have any problem with the sms as you describe. But i don't have them in threaded mode cause I don't like it. Have you tried to change the view to normal mode to see if the problem persists? Have a quick check and maybe it works that way without the freeze. Just guessin...

I am using threaded with no issues. If your going to go for a ROM hit up on duttys new 6.5 there is an issue with the weather tab after install but tere is a cab to fix.

I have the same problem. I am using Miri v.23.
I never had this problem before on wm6.5.
I think it is the new HTC Task Manager I did not have this problem on Miri v.20

I have the same problem on dutty R5 (and had the same on R4), I also think it has something to do with task manager because when it's "freezing" I'm able to open start menu, but not to open task manager nor to go on manila...

i have the same problem on dutty's R4, R5 and miri's v23 maybe it's about task manager but i flash back to winmo 6.1 i got no problem with version 2.1

how do you backup and restore your sms when flashing the device?
for example PIM Backup is known to make problems...
change to normal sms, then backup, restore in normal mode and after change back to threaded. maybe this will fix your problems...

Bimme said:
how do you backup and restore your sms when flashing the device?
for example PIM Backup is known to make problems...
change to normal sms, then backup, restore in normal mode and after change back to threaded. maybe this will fix your problems...
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I do backup and restore in threaded with PIM... I will try that, thanks for the suggestion