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How to..make a full bckup on new ROM without problems

Hi guys.. I keep reading your beautiful forum everyday, learning some...
As TheLastOne says, one must do a fresh install after a new ROM upgrading, avoiding the backup to overwrite some file of the old Rom.
My question is... is there a way to restore programs anddevice settings (like buttons config,rings,passwords,network settings etc) withouth making conflicts? I was thinking about a backup software that only saves custom elements.. do anybody know a way to do it? Thanks a lot. :?:
PS I read the post from Happygoat about CABs...is very tricky for me...I hope ther is a easyer solution!!!

There are two programs out there that make decent backups...
1. Sprite Software
2. SunnySoft Backup Manager
Both can be customized to only backup personal data, such as phone number database, etc.
To backup settings, the only way is to make your own cab.
What you do not want to do, is to backup everything, including the registry, and restore it after a ROM upgrade...!
These backups are nice to have if your ROMs stay the same...but if you upgrade/change ROMs, and restore such a backup, your PDA could become unstable. This has to do with the fact that the ROM update uses its resources and registry different, and writes programmes differently.
Hope that clears up things for you.

Thank for clear and fast reply @ HappyGoat..
So I will wait for a definitive "guide" from you about registry and settings CAB saving and try out the softwares u mencioned..by the way those sw save and restore also programs relative registration passwords?
I have made a full backup file on my storage card of my registry with PMH, now I think to do the follow:
1) backup all programs and data with Sprite software on sd card
2) upgrade to new rom and hard reset the device
3) reinstall PMH and restore registry
4) reinstall Sprite and restore programs and data
5) ... it will be ok ? I hope so because I really don't understand how to follow step 2 from HappyGoat guide
Thanks for pacience.. (TheLastOne...can you give an opinion..?)

Vicer,
Check this below link from Sprite Software for your Sprite backup.
http://spritesoftware.crmdesk.com/answer.aspx?id=66&back=browse.aspx#p24
I can confirm that you can successfully backup after a ROM upgrade and you wont lose any new ROM functionality after restore. I have tried this with various ROM upgrade and it works. Follow the instructions and every thing will be fine. However one thing you should note that when you restore from the old rom and if the program get stuck at one point, then dont feel afraid just soft reset and restore again. Remember that if your restore is finished with out any warnings it means that it is restored perfectly.
I hope this helps and if you need any information then please let me know.
Hemant.

Thanks a lot Hemant..I will try soon!!!

Thanks Hemant, I've been looking for this answer for a long time!

Backing up the rom because of garanty. How to?
My question is: how to backup the entire rom, when we got the device for the first time?
Cause, if the device gets with a problem, and went to the "doctor", the garanty is made (at least where i live), by the original rom.
Someone can help me out?

Re: Backing up the rom because of garanty. How to?
pena_leve said:
My question is: how to backup the entire rom, when we got the device for the first time?
Cause, if the device gets with a problem, and went to the "doctor", the garanty is made (at least where i live), by the original rom.
Someone can help me out?
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Anyone?

Re: Backing up the rom because of garanty. How to?
tambeng said:
pena_leve said:
My question is: how to backup the entire rom, when we got the device for the first time?
Cause, if the device gets with a problem, and went to the "doctor", the garanty is made (at least where i live), by the original rom.
Someone can help me out?
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Unfortunately I had many problems after the restore with Sprite...I reinstalled all from scratch and now is all ok (unless I downgraded radio to 1.10 that is more stable in my opinion) Ref your question... I'm not an expert but I read the wiki everyday...and:
1) follow the getdevicedata procedure to know your original SHIP rom.
2) find on the xda ftp site the one that mactch exactely with your data
3) you dont need more to dump your Rom!! anyway on the forum you can search for "dump rom on sd card" to find the answer to your original question. Hope this helped..byez

Backup existing ROM-Help needed

Hello,
Is there any proven method to backup the existing rom to a form of files like the Updated ROM (nk.nbf,RUU,etc.)?
I would like to preserve my original wm5 ROM since it contains Payed application i can't re-register.
After backing up-it will be WM6
Thanks
Roy

im looking for the same thing too
because i want to try out other roms but i have alot of stuff on my current phone
i know theres a utility that will backup to the minisd card and your able to back it up later
no luck yet
im still searching the forum and google though

No, for most backup applications, you can't restore a WM5 software backup to WM6 device, otherwise weird incompatibility will be happened (such as crashing Contacts)

Yes ! very true,there wud be a incompatibility issue,however if you backup your wm5 rom on a Sdcard,that is also only possible if you have a CID unlocked device,then in time of any emergency,you can reflash it back to your phone,through Sdcard method to restore it back in working condition,but all you applications or programs in wm5 cannot be restored back to wm6 OS.
Cheers

Thanks for you help,
my thoughts were to keep the original ROM for selling this device..
Roy

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963
This is the way to make a copy of your current ROM of the Wizard to a SD card.
As stated above this does NOT include any application or data you add yourself to your Wizard but only those apps that comes along with the ROM in the first place.
This should be just fine to have a backup of your current WM5 but does not help to "preserve" any paid applications you installed yourself neither your contacts etc.
Good luck!

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Change rom and restore backup

I've searched at the forum but couldn't find a good answerd for my question.
I got a Vodafone NL X1 it's currently on the Vodafone R2 release but i want to change it to the generic release(hate the vodafone crap). So my question is do I need hard spl to flash another official rom to my X1. I know that you need hard spl to flash a cooked rom but is flashing another official rom the same case?
And another question, i've read on websites that spb backup can restore a backup after a rom update. Does anyone have experience with that and is there a big change that i will have problems with that? And if I use this when I flash the generic rom instead of the vodafone one to my phone does it also restore all vodafone crap?
Hope someone can help me
thanks in advanced,

killer8nl said:
So my question is do I need hard spl to flash another official rom to my X1. I know that you need hard spl to flash a cooked rom but is flashing another official rom the same case?
And another question, i've read on websites that spb backup can restore a backup after a rom update. Does anyone have experience with that and is there a big change that i will have problems with that? And if I use this when I flash the generic rom instead of the vodafone one to my phone does it also restore all vodafone crap?
thanks in advanced,
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My 2c worth:
a) official ROM's have SPL in them, so you don't need hardSPL to flash these
b) regarding "restore after ROM change", in reverse order:
if you restore a full backup from your existing installation after a ROM change, it will obviously restore all that is currently there - including the Vodaphone fluff
both Spb and Sprite offer "full restore after ROM change" options - however, registry changes from one ROM to the next make this risky. Most cooks will advise against it

Oke thank you for the answerd, will do a fresh install then after the rom update

SPB restore can let you choose what to restore, the necessary things will be contacts, sms, email and documents, you can skip the programs, registry and other non personal things, but like this you will need to reinstall all programs and configure them from scratch

killer8nl said:
Oke thank you for the answerd, will do a fresh install then after the rom update
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Yes, that's the technically correct way.
After you've upgraded the ROM and re-installed all your apps, (say) weekly Spb or Sprite backups for a full restore are obviously viable. I've been doing this for about 5 years now - saved my bacon more than once.
Still, I agree that re-installing all the apps after a ROM upgrade is a real pain in the butt. People who change ROM's constantly must have another day phone on the side

I tried to update the generic NL R2A rom from my vodafone NL R2A phone but it doesn't work. It keep saying "No image file!".
I also got another question. Is it really necessairy to format my ms before flashing. Because I only got the hancock ms and it said not to be working again when I format the ms. Thats why I didn't format the ms yet and only tried without formatting.
I have read almost all tutorials but all said I must use the hard-spl but other forums posts said I don't need when using a official rom. Anyone can help me a bit further please?
Regards,

Just got an old Tilt/8925, need updates?

hi all, I just got my wife's old tilt. No software or ROMs have been updated on this device at all and I'm curious what updates anyone can recommend that I install.
I did read through the WIKI and it was hard to tell what is the most recent updates available. Nothing is really working incorrectly on the unit, I just want the newest, fastest software/rom etc installed.
is there a windows mobile update that I should install? I saw some references to touchflow 3d working on the tilt, is this worth installing?
I'm starting from square one here and am looking for some general info which is why I posted in this room as opposed to the software or rom rooms. Any info would be great. thanks!
taz

The first thing you need to do is back up your phone. You can sync your or what I would do is use back up your data to your card. DO NOT USE SPRITE BACKUP THAT IS ON YOUR PHONE! I did this and could not get it to restore to my phone. Use PIM Backup. You can get the cab file by doing a search on the software thread.
I just upgrade my rom on my Tilt 8925 last week and I used build 23069 and I really like it so far. Make sure you also download the Jumpspl56,Jumpspl93 and Jumpspl94 file. You will have to add that to your phone first and I used the Jumpspl56 file. I did not have a problem with it.
Read the Wiki it will help so mucn and there is also YouTube videos on it. When looking up the information look up Kaiser. I also used this web site for help.
http://blog.contriving.net/2009/06/18/upgrading-your-att-tilt-to-windows-mobile-6-5-tutorial/
Good Luck

thanks Biloxigirl! do you know if I can put a new version of windows mobile on the device? I've read that some people have updated to 6.1 but do not want to update to 6.5 because it lacks good support for landscape mode?
taz

It all depends what you want? You can flash any Kaiser ROM after Hard-SPL [Resources] Flashing Your First Kaiser Rom (For Noobs) , there are many 6.1 ROMs to choose from and even though M2D doesn't support landscape well it can be disabled via today settings, not sure what you mean about landscape support on 6.5 as Chome has full lanscape compatability.
Good luck

tazmajazz said:
thanks Biloxigirl! do you know if I can put a new version of windows mobile on the device? I've read that some people have updated to 6.1 but do not want to update to 6.5 because it lacks good support for landscape mode?
taz
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I upgraded from 6.0 to 6.1 with no problems. Now I have 6.5 and LOVE IT. Not sure what you are talking about landscape.....I have had no problems so far with anything in landscape.

Can you run 6.5 on the Tilt?
How much memory do you end up with?

ikepigott said:
Can you run 6.5 on the Tilt?
How much memory do you end up with?
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yup, look in the rom dev forum.

when reading these steps from the tutorial, am I suposed to pull out the battery while the device is still powered on or should I turn it off first?
1. Copy JumpSPL1.56-KAIS.exe, JumpSPL1.93-KAIS.exe and JumpSPL1.94-KAIS.exe to your device memory (NOT STORAGE CARD)
2. Pull out the battery and reinsert it (this step IS important) *DONT turn phone back on yet*
taz

tazmajazz said:
when reading these steps from the tutorial, am I suposed to pull out the battery while the device is still powered on or should I turn it off first?
1. Copy JumpSPL1.56-KAIS.exe, JumpSPL1.93-KAIS.exe and JumpSPL1.94-KAIS.exe to your device memory (NOT STORAGE CARD)
2. Pull out the battery and reinsert it (this step IS important) *DONT turn phone back on yet*
taz
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Doesn't matter, the idea is to kill all processes. Either way will achieve the end result.

gotcha, thanks Denco

Questions about changing ROM

The first time is always the hardest.
Recently I've been playing with the registry to try and lower the 'lowest volume' setting for my headset with no success. Apparently I need to change the audiopara file. I'm thinking that changing the ROM may help. So here's a few questions:
1 - If I decide to go back I can download my original ROM from here (Generic Australia R3AA013 Software Update)?
2 - Do you reckon Christians 6.5 ROM is pretty good? Do you recommend changing ROM?
3 - Does each ROM come with it's own registry etc or do they rely on stuff on the phone (does flashing the ROM remove everything?).
Thanks!
.... sorry can't post links. Feel free to recommend a good 6.5 ROM.

'Tron said:
The first time is always the hardest.
Recently I've been playing with the registry to try and lower the 'lowest volume' setting for my headset with no success. Apparently I need to change the audiopara file. I'm thinking that changing the ROM may help. So here's a few questions:
1 - If I decide to go back I can download my original ROM from here (Generic Australia R3AA013 Software Update)?
2 - Do you reckon Christians 6.5 ROM is pretty good? Do you recommend changing ROM?
3 - Does each ROM come with it's own registry etc or do they rely on stuff on the phone (does flashing the ROM remove everything?).
Thanks!
.... sorry can't post links. Feel free to recommend a good 6.5 ROM.
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1 yes
2 best find out for yourself; the earlier the better
3 yes and no; no, the rom is replaced and most probably rilphone.dll, but radio and spl are normally untouched
cheers

Hey guys. I just got my x1 back from repairs (they fixed the nasty crack for free XD) and wanted to know if I can Hardspl again. When I put the stockspl, the page said that dont bother using this if you are gonna put hardspl back. But I had to for warranty reasons.
Anyway...can i just flash hardspl again?
Thanks in advance
T

redlite said:
Anyway...can i just flash hardspl again?
Thanks in advance
T
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I did that 2/3 time without problem.

DrakenKorin said:
1 yes
2 best find out for yourself; the earlier the better
3 yes and no; no, the rom is replaced and most probably rilphone.dll, but radio and spl are normally untouched
cheers
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1 - Sweet.
2 - Changing the ROM takes a bit of effort just wanna be sure it's a good move.
3 - Okay - what is the radio and spl?
Cheers.

That Energy ROM looks pretty sweet. May go for that one.

Another Question;
The 'NEW ORIGINAL X1 and X2 ROMS update 3.2.2010' thread lists all the original ROMS (in my case Generic Australia R3AA013 Software Update).
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475482
So could I restore my X1 to it's original ROM by downloading from the Link above?
Why would you choose to take the time to back-up your ROM if you can just download the original?

'Tron said:
The 'NEW ORIGINAL X1 and X2 ROMS update 3.2.2010' thread lists all the original ROMS (in my case Generic Australia R3AA013 Software Update).
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475482
So could I restore my X1 to it's original ROM by downloading from the Link above?
Why would you choose to take the time to back-up your ROM if you can just download the original?
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1. Yes.
2. Some people flash their phones 2-3 times a day, so it's good to have something to fall back onto where everything is setup the way you want to. That being said, I don't back up my ROM, I just do a clean install every time I reflash.

harveydent said:
1. Yes.
2. Some people flash their phones 2-3 times a day, so it's good to have something to fall back onto where everything is setup the way you want to. That being said, I don't back up my ROM, I just do a clean install every time I reflash.
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Cool, thx.
When you do a hard-reset, which I've done recently, that take your phone back to square one. So I guess what I'm trying to work out is if it's necessary to back-up the ROM. Basically I'm being lazy.
I've downloaded two ROMs to try - Christian's ROM and Firestone V6.1.

HELP:!!! my x1i phone not running
lastly , i 've installed a language supporting program , then i restart the x1i but it did not boot again , it just reach to sonyericsson logo and still there .... i've tried hard_spl and all of these stuffs one by one. but when it connect to the device -as i remember the third step- it shows the the current verion: -it does not show any thing here- and the next version , 1.00.x or something like this.
when i clicked the next button i show the progress bar on each of tow (pc and x1i) and then stay on 0% for about 3 min then it show the recovery wizard , some time it said that "lost connection" others nothing but recovery... x1i here still showing the progress bar as 0% , so i remove the battery or soft reset to go into the recovery wizard , then i shows successfull recovery ... but i don't see any respond on the x1i , it's the same status , no boot no ability to update or or ...
when i connect the x1 and go to boot loader(manually known buttons) the Win XP (mine on pc SP2) show new device and good install driver and successfull driver installion on the first time and then just shows the sound of plug in the device or plug out...;
sorry if i said too much here . just i want to make it shown to all.
thanks for all who will mention even "i 'll try to ask for you"
good to be here

'Tron said:
Cool, thx.
When you do a hard-reset, which I've done recently, that take your phone back to square one. So I guess what I'm trying to work out is if it's necessary to back-up the ROM. Basically I'm being lazy.
I've downloaded two ROMs to try - Christian's ROM and Firestone V6.1.
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I would advice on backing up your personal things: contacts, mail, messages, some settings if you want (like hw keybd layout...)
to back-up a rom is only useful if you change reg settings often and want to have a backup in case of system crash/failure
as you intend to change your rom once in a while a backup of one specific rom doesn't make sense you see? preserve your personal data, that does it
pim, sprite, spb, synch, myphone, ... there are many ways, read about them and decide for yourself
@truthglow did you try with your sd card taken out?

DrakenKorin said:
I would advice on backing up your personal things: contacts, mail, messages, some settings if you want (like hw keybd layout...)
to back-up a rom is only useful if you change reg settings often and want to have a backup in case of system crash/failure
as you intend to change your rom once in a while a backup of one specific rom doesn't make sense you see? preserve your personal data, that does it
pim, sprite, spb, synch, myphone, ... there are many ways, read about them and decide for yourself
@truthglow did you try with your sd card taken out?
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I've my person data sorted. All my contacts are stored in Windows Live - so all I need is the Windows Live app to retrieve my contacts.
I use online sync for my calendars - so no problem there. Don't care if I lose my SMS messages.
I've copied across any pictures.
I store all the .cabs for my favourite apps on my SD card.
I made some changes to the registry to try and adjust the headset volume but to no success.
So probably don't need to pack up my Rom.
I like the look of Spike's X1.5 ROM.

'Tron said:
I've my person data sorted. All my contacts are stored in Windows Live - so all I need is the Windows Live app to retrieve my contacts.
I use online sync for my calendars - so no problem there. Don't care if I lose my SMS messages.
I've copied across any pictures.
I store all the .cabs for my favourite apps on my SD card.
I made some changes to the registry to try and adjust the headset volume but to no success.
So probably don't need to pack up my Rom.
I like the look of Spike's X1.5 ROM.
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sounds reasonable so far
you can use apps to automatize (to a degree) the restoring of personal settings/apps/progs/data/...
e.g. with user customization (UC) or sashimi
that's especially useful when often flashing an update of the already installed rom, as menu structure and general reg layout is similar (expect for certain update)
that way you can easily get most of your customization done without major effort (except of course for the one time you need to config your uc tool), right after flashing, some roms even check for uc configuration during rom customization process
about the reg edit: did the adjustment not work or the export of the changed setting?

yes i did it
DrakenKorin said:
I would advice on backing up your personal things: contacts, mail, messages, some settings if you want (like hw keybd layout...)
to back-up a rom is only useful if you change reg settings often and want to have a backup in case of system crash/failure
as you intend to change your rom once in a while a backup of one specific rom doesn't make sense you see? preserve your personal data, that does it
pim, sprite, spb, synch, myphone, ... there are many ways, read about them and decide for yourself
@truthglow did you try with your sd card taken out?
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many thanks for you DarkenKorin...
when i use the micro sd way it stays on "loading ... " and don't gives any thing else...this thing with many roms and many pcs-but on xp- .
yesterday i got window7 and tried to connect my x1 , and the same thing become... but my pc was with no mtty ... and the microsoft active sync was not able to install on Seven...
so today i've got the mtty and i'll try after install it.
if it worked i will notify you surly.
thanks again...
and if anyone knows how to solve i thank him.

DrakenKorin said:
about the reg edit: did the adjustment not work or the export of the changed setting?
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^ I edited the registry in an attempt to decrease the headset minimum volume (I found the minimum volume too loud for in call & listening to the radio).
I have since learnt that I need to change the audiopara file. But I don't have the expertise. So I'm hoping my new 6.5 ROM's headset volume is a little quieter .