Does anyone have the same problems with the breeze that when you make a call it can drop it with no warning show "No service" and suddenly get it back straight away?
i have radio 1.38 installed, using a ORange UK 3G PAYG sim in a full coverage 2G area and 1-2 bars 3G area.
i have tried to set the thing to GSM only and 3G only but this doesn't solve it. has anyone......anyone out there figured a way to sort this?
or does anyone know of the possibility of getting a replacement from HTC that works?
cheers to anyone who can help
Dan
Same problem here, with Orange also, although on contract with them.
Please let me know if you find a solution. I emailed HTC, which I already know you have done, and you have had a replacement handset. This is not a good start for me
I had the best luck with my Sony Ericsson K610i. It was the best 3G Bluetooth Modem ever.. shame no Exchange ActiveSync/DirectPush
I have exactly same problem. Phone calls are dropped with no services message. And I have to restart phone at least once a week because my phone will fail to find any network. After reboot it works fine for a while. I have latest firmware with 1.38 radio. Phone is from O2 CZ.
Hi guys,
did you try to switch from 2G and 3G connection to 2G only? I assume this problem is caused by the network coverage while the Breeze is switching from 3G to 2G and vice versa. Me and some friends (Vodafone and T-Mobil) didn't discover these kind of problems.....
Cheers
Michael
Yes, I did it. But I still have to restart phone every week because phone lost signal.
I'm thinking about to flashing newer radio.
Hmm, we are using this version: "MTeoR_Upgrade_1.34.251.1_1.38.00.10_EUR_SHIP.exe" and it works well......
Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!
nunu said:
Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!
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Might kinda help to tell folks where you live. Country? State/province?
UK,London
thnx for your reply i live in London,United Kingdom
Signal lost, this might help...
nunu said:
Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!
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Hi there nunu,
I had the same problem, went back to the store and nope not a known problem.... So I started to troubleshoot this
1. normal G connection
2. 3G appears or even H
3. signal lost and after 30 sec. the cycle starts again.
what worked for me was the changing the of the radio version. I am currently in the Netherlands and here the NEON_Radinly_1.65.24.36 works fine, I confirmed it by loading a rom with a different radio in it and the result was again the same.
hope this helped in any way...
Let me (us) know.
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life is good, but life get's much better with a Kaiser
are you trying to connect with [email protected] / cingular1 ?
this is the kinda information you should have put in your first post
I use the above and have zero problems in Philadelphia
My 3G went out for like a day here (Phone only worked on Edge), then it started working again. Cellular carriers do have outages from time to time. Has it been a long while since it stopped working?
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Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!
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Flash to a different compatible radio. If you do not get 3G/H service back, then you have a hardware issue with your radio, and will need to have the phone serviced.
what newtwork are you on?
have you tried your sim in a different handset?
what happens when running in gsm only mode?
in settings phone network change selection to manual and tap find networks and reselect network (this is known as a manual roam) does this make a difference?
Same here!, im in montreal, canada with Rogers, and in 3g doesnt work, it detects the 3G network, but as soon as i try to make a call or go on the internet it looses the signal and i have to go on GSM mode.
and i'm using LKDV12 but i still had the same problem on AT&T Original rom, and Dual V2.
Anyone?
Major problem --
I have been travelling round the world for a year and have the same problem, Have tried many radios, if I use 3G( wscdma) or auto band then the signal drops everytime i try to make a call, and no data is possible however if I use gsm only data and voice work fine, thease symptoms are on many networks, Chile, Easter Island,Tahiti, NZ, Fiji, Optus ( OZ ), and m1 ( singapore ),
Radios tried
EMO 1.71.09.01
Neon 1.65.24.36
1.65.21.18 ( att )
I even loaded the generic dopod rom + radio and it didnt seem to help.
Is it possible something low level has changed whilst doing all this flashing ?
Or could the Hard SPL affect something.
I always try to buy a 3G USIM in each country and test the sim in a backup G800 to ensure the carrier has enabled 3g data okay.
Phone is Kaiser ( HTC TytnII )
ROM is varied but and usually lorentis series roms -- L26 12 light atm
Symptoms, 3G icon shows but data wont connect, if you try to call radio strength bar drops to zero and cell communications are lost , sometimes reestablishes comms but often needs soft reset to band switch to work.
If 3G icon not showing all calls and GPRS data works Okay.
Personally I would not expect this to be a hardware failiure as many others are experiencing teh same fault and for working hardware to fail in use is more erratic in the failiure mode, but a low level register, or some other type of protocol corruption could easiliy be the cause......
The proven "high GPS current consumption in standby" issue is also present as it seems to be on all Kaisers but afaik the root cause of this was never resolved either .....
my Kaiser do not work with 3G only works on GSM NEED HELP
HI I´m from mexico telcel gsm band and the same problm works on my kaiser tried changing the rom put the htc rom again the radio too
settingsROM 1.62.502.0 WINDOWS MOBILE 6 BUILD 1828.0.4.4
RADIO 1.27.14.09
PROTOCOL 22.45.88.07H
by the way how can i make it work on gsm only or edge or other than 3g that doesn't work
tks for your assistance iñm getting frustrated
edge
nunu said:
Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!
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i have the same problem did you make it work how you set a gsm band instead of the 3g on the phone tks for your assis
dr.vogel
I have the same problem. Already had it with WM6.0 original HTC ROM (Finnish ROM, but language set to English). Then sent it to service. It came back, they said they "reapplied software or smth" and it worked after that. Then after 6.1 update again, the same problem (even with the latest updated Radio ROM).
When I set band selection to auto, it picks up 3G or even H but tends to loose it and definetly looses connection to network if I try to make a call. Can't take any incoming calls either.
It works ok when I force it to use GSM (EDGE for data) on Band selection tab, in phone properties.
I probably won't bother taking it to service anymore cause there is no local service here in Estonia, they ship it to Finland and it will take a minimum of 3 weeks...
... so I'm waiting for Xperia X1 and hope it's not as much HTC.
nunu said:
Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!
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Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335074
Hardware problem, repair needed and unavoidable to get 3G functionality back.
I have the same problem.
I bought an O2 Stellar (Kaiser) from a work colleague and it worked fine on 3G/Auto on the day I bought it.
The next morning, when I switched on the phone, it had exactly the symptoms described (i.e. it would only work if forced into GSM mode).
My colleague took it back to O2 under warranty.
1 week later, it was returned as 'fixed', but it actually still had the problem, so my colleague returned it again to O2.
Another week later, O2 provided a replacement unit under warranty.
The replacement worked fine, until the next morning when I turned on the phone and had to force it into GSM mode again because it wouldn't work in 3G/Auto mode.
I'm on 3 in the UK and I suspect the problem is something to do with the roaming onto Orange GSM which happens when there is no 3G signal from 3UK. However, on the day each of the units worked, it was switching between 3G and GSM repeatedly because the 3G signal is fairly poor in my office.
I'm now waiting for my colleague to return from his holiday so that he can return this unit to O2 and we'll see if we get another replacement. If we do, I'm very reluctant to actually use it - I think I'll probably just sell it on and get something different. Shame because I really like the Kaiser.
as mentioned before, another thing that you should've tried is to call the helpline and see if there's an outage in your area. I've been experiencing the same problem in a very particular area (3G hand-off to EDGE problem only happens on campus). Tried different radios and problem still exist, so I gave them a call today and turned out that there is an outage here.
In my case, it's not caused by a network outage - 3G works fine on my Hermes in the same locations.
Good thought though.
Relax boys...I have'd the same problem... The only solution is to go with your phone for warranty return. There they will change your TyTN II mother board and all will be ok. IT IS THE ONLY WAY.
PS do the same thing I did http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418375
i post this thead and the solution
i post this tread an the solution came on tha answer of various of you great ideas i get the solution changing the rom and the wm to 6.1 and the rom is the dutty's it has worked almost perfectly in any wy itested only some install on the gps progrms but no mayor problem tks all you friens for a great support
The same thing has happened to me as well (Orange UK).
Initially I thought that it was an outage in my area as my friends had problems connecting to 3G as well, but their problem has been fixed but I still cannot.
I'll be contacting their tech support dept. later today and I'll post back.
Hi,
Have a big problem in that whenever I put a rom on my new Tilt 2 (which I am running on the new HSPA Bell network). My phone thinks it is roaming.
This is a real pain and I can't seem to find away around the problem.
Please can somebody think of something I might be missing?
Thanks!!
pcuz said:
Hi,
Have a big problem in that whenever I put a rom on my new Tilt 2 (which I am running on the new HSPA Bell network). My phone thinks it is roaming.
This is a real pain and I can't seem to find away around the problem.
Please can somebody think of something I might be missing?
Thanks!!
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Test a few radios and see what happens
smokestack76 said:
Test a few radios and see what happens
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Ok will give that a try. Do I have to change th rilphone.dll as well?
No i never have and they flash just fine
smokestack76 said:
No i never have and they flash just fine
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Thanks I will give it a go and let you know how I get on.
pcuz said:
Thanks I will give it a go and let you know how I get on.
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Ok so tried a bunch of different radios but still get the same problem.
Any ideas folks??
pcuz said:
Hi,
Have a big problem in that whenever I put a rom on my new Tilt 2 (which I am running on the new HSPA Bell network). My phone thinks it is roaming.
This is a real pain and I can't seem to find away around the problem.
Please can somebody think of something I might be missing?
Thanks!!
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Are you sure its roaming and not mistaken the icon for something else? Also, if you are indeed roaming, which network is it? AFAIK, in ON, there's only 2 HSPA network Rogers/Fido or Bell/Telus. Who is your provider?
mikron15 said:
Are you sure its roaming and not mistaken the icon for something else? Also, if you are indeed roaming, which network is it? AFAIK, in ON, there's only 2 HSPA network Rogers/Fido or Bell/Telus. Who is your provider?
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So I have the icon telling me that I am roaming and all the application warn me before they download data that I am roaming as well (which is a right pain!!).
I am on the new Bell HSPA network.
Any ideas?
roaming..
ok .. this is my experience about this problem ..
first my home base is Netherlands ! and im using Telfort network on my nokia .. buat the last 3 year .. Telfort using KPN Network .. if you turn ON the phone .. it will display Telfort .. but a few second it will change to KPN ...
maybe.. your operator also using another network...
if I put my Telfort sim to TP2 it will display Telfort but with with ROAMING icon !!!
cheers
indra9110
indra9110 said:
ok .. this is my experience about this problem ..
first my home base is Netherlands ! and im using Telfort network on my nokia .. buat the last 3 year .. Telfort using KPN Network .. if you turn ON the phone .. it will display Telfort .. but a few second it will change to KPN ...
maybe.. your operator also using another network...
if I put my Telfort sim to TP2 it will display Telfort but with with ROAMING icon !!!
cheers
indra9110
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Bell have their own network here so I dont think that could be the problem. I also have a Omnia 2 and an Iphone 3Gs that dont have this problem.
Also just tried to manually join the Rogers network and as I thought it would not let me connect.
It is only on the tilt2 after I flashed a new ROM onto it.
Thanks for the idea though.
Anybody else?
pcuz said:
Bell have their own network here so I dont think that could be the problem. I also have a Omnia 2 and an Iphone 3Gs that dont have this problem.
It is only on the tilt2 after I flashed a new ROM onto it.
Thanks for the idea though.
Anybody else?
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EDIT: read this first and then try the following suggestion
Try setting in the TP2 band selection to only HSPA and see what happens. Since bell has no GSM, and if your phone is set to 2G mode only, it's falling back on Rogers/Fido, hence, the roaming.
Start>>Settings>>Personal>>Phone>> Goto "Band" tab>>Set the GSM/UMTS band to "GSM (1900+850) + UMTS(1900+850).
Play around with the Network type by switching to GSM only or CDMA or leave it on Auto.
FYI Rogers/Fido and Bell/Telus HSPA network runs on 850/1900 band.
Food for thought....
Also another thing to consider, considering that Bell/Telus HSPA network is new, I thought i read somewhere you have to get your device "added" to their new HSPA system. Right now, only new sign-up's gets on the new HSPA network. In other words, your phone is trying to get on Bell HSPA network, but Bell rejects it since it's not in their system, so your phone hop's onto next on the list, either roaming on Rogers HSPA or Rogers GSM.
P.S: You might find better response over here
mikron15 said:
EDIT: read this first and then try the following suggestion
Try setting in the TP2 band selection to only HSPA and see what happens. Since bell has no GSM, and if your phone is set to 2G mode only, it's falling back on Rogers/Fido, hence, the roaming.
Start>>Settings>>Personal>>Phone>> Goto "Band" tab>>Set the GSM/UMTS band to "GSM (1900+850) + UMTS(1900+850).
Play around with the Network type by switching to GSM only or CDMA or leave it on Auto.
FYI Rogers/Fido and Bell/Telus HSPA network runs on 850/1900 band.
Food for thought....
Also another thing to consider, considering that Bell/Telus HSPA network is new, I thought i read somewhere you have to get your device "added" to their new HSPA system. Right now, only new sign-up's gets on the new HSPA network. In other words, your phone is trying to get on Bell HSPA network, but Bell rejects it since it's not in their system, so your phone hop's onto next on the list, either roaming on Rogers HSPA or Rogers GSM.
P.S: You might find better response over here
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Thanks for the detailed response.
I dont think I am on the Rogers network as I get the Bell operator logo appear and the phone stays on 3G (as I cant drop to Edge because Bell dont have it on their network).
Also checking my online billing from the past few days I would expect to see some nasty roaming charges which I dont have.
Finally I also have a Jailbroken Iphone and that works on the network fine without any problems.
Its just very weird!!
Just tried to connect to the Rogers network manually and it will not let me connect. So it must be something wierd on the device.
Oh, it does show Bell operator logo. I thought the phone was registering on another entwork other than Bell.
Hmm, since you are not incuring roaming charges, only thing I can think of, is the network list that comes within the ROM classifies Bell as CDMA and not updated to reflect it supports HSPA. So it reads the network id as Bell and network type as HSPA and thinks its roaming? I dunno, i could be wrong lol! ::shrugs::
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Oh, it does show Bell operator logo. I thought the phone was registering on another entwork other than Bell.
Hmm, since you are not incuring roaming charges, only thing I can think of, is the network list that comes within the ROM classifies Bell as CDMA and not updated to reflect it supports HSPA. So it reads the network id as Bell and network type as HSPA and thinks its roaming? I dunno, i could be wrong lol! ::shrugs::
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Make sense to me
I guess I can live with it if I need to. Does anybody know of a way to force the device not to flag any messages about roaming?
At least that will make it less annoying.
Hi - i have recently bought a tyrn ii.
I am currently on o2 network, but sometimes cannot send texts. I notice there are 3 symbols that appear next to the reception symbol, they are H, G and 3G. These change alternately. Are these interfering with my reception? if so whats the best 'one' to use and how do i turn the others off?
Thank you.
richardvilla said:
Hi - i have recently bought a tyrn ii.
I am currently on o2 network, but sometimes cannot send texts. I notice there are 3 symbols that appear next to the reception symbol, they are H, G and 3G. These change alternately. Are these interfering with my reception? if so whats the best 'one' to use and how do i turn the others off?
Thank you.
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Maybe you should call them (O2) since it can be a network related issue not properly a kaiser device one.
3G is the fastest
Mr. Clown said:
Maybe you should call them (O2) since it can be a network related issue not properly a kaiser device one.
3G is the fastest
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HSDPA is the fastest
Does sound like network issues, i'm on o2 and never have problems sending text.