As a long time Blackberry user who's ready to make the jump to Android, I'm interested in buying an Android device, but the question that bugs me is if I should buy a G1 or ADP. Based on my googling, I know the ADP has easy root access, can take any image (including the stock G1), and comes unlocked out of the box (since I require an unlocked phone for travel, although I can probably wait the 90 days for T-Mobile to cough up an unlock code for my G1, or pay for it to be unlocked).
I'm currently out-of-contract and unwilling to re-sign another two years for discount (for one, I'm not sure I'll be living in a place w/ T-Mobile service within two years, or keeping them as a carrier (although loosing 3G will be a bit of a hit) so I'll be paying full price. As the current G1 new price sans contract is about $400 doolars, the $425 + tax for the ADP1 seems to be a good choice. I know the limitations on copy protection apps on the ADP1, but it doesn't seem to be that big, and I plan to do both firmware and app dep, it seems to be the way to go. Any suggestions for or against?
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ADP's will have a rom with root access and an engeneering bootloader. As far as I know that's it. If you root your G1 you will be able to flash an ADP firmware (one that supports paid apps) and the engeering bootloader (and obviously you'll have root access). So I'd go with whatever is cheapest. G1's are easy to root, and I got mine unlocked for a tenner.I bought my G1 on eBay for a very good price. I'm sure they'll be some new ones on on Ebay that are much cheaper than an ADP1.
I agree with AdrianK, a rooted and unlocked G1 can do everything that an ADP can do with some definite cost saving especially if you buy second hand. I bought a G1 on ebay as well for $80 but it has a cracked screen. I don't care because I just use it to test roms (see sig). You can find deals like this all over ebay and you can get a screen replacement for about $90 so if your handy, you can have a like new phone for $170 vs $300 or $400 or whatever they are without a contract.
Agree with everyone else. Why even buy an ADP
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Hey,
I just got my 8525 about two months ago. What is my best plan of action for upgrading to the Kaiser? Does Cingular offer any kind of upgrade discount or anything like that where I can trade in the old phone? Or should I just sell it on EBay?
No help at all for this subject?
at&t/cingular does not offer any type of trade incentives for upgrading. ebay is your best bet to recoup any value from your 8525.
I am not sure how you expect us to answer the question as the Kaiser has not even been released yet. I agree with jamiefielder though that Ebay will likely be one of only a few avenues to trade up with. I am not aware of any of the companies doing anything for high end stuff. Sure they will give you a cheap motorola phone if you lock into a contract, but not for high end stuff.
None of the companies will give you any upgrade after only two months Your only choice is to sell the 8525 and buy the 8925 when it is available.
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Uncle SAM
Im not sure where you are at but if you dont mind waiting you can donate it and get some of teh money back on taxes if you itemize. I have a razor and a verizon push to talk phone that i will be donating
Thanks guys I thought so but I just wanted to make sure.
I will probably be buying the phone just straight out not looking to upgrade or anything, so I will just sell the 8525.
Quick ? though for anyone looking around this thread: Is it ever worth it for me to get data/internet plans? I am simply a college student who does no business but likes the nice phone and all the calendar/phone/roms/word mobile, etc etc. But I'm not sure about the usefulness of getting an internet package. Does anyone know anything specifically that they use the internet for on the phones?
I use it to get my email, and also to check stuff online if I'm just putzing around away from a computer. Plus I use telenav, so need a data plan for that. I went with the Media Max Unlimited plan. Gives you unlimited data and 200 sms, which I need anyway, so basically I have unlimited internet for $15 a month. That's worth it to me.
OK, so I still have a blue angel, drooling over a kaiser, and my contract with O2 was up last week.
Thinking T-Mobile (for web n walk) but from what I hear the styling isnt as nice as the HTC one, plus my experiences with the O2 version of the XDA IIs ROMs left me a little cold.
So, ideally I want a non-branded Kaiser.
Well, if I take up a contract with T-Mobile, and take no phone, I am losing out, so I thought I would get a phone from them and sell it unused. I was looking and I can get a nokia 6300 for free with the tariff I want and it seems like I could get it unlocked easy enough or do it myself and flog it new, maybe get 100 quid for it? Any suggestions as to whether this would work or if I could shift an unlocked T-Mobile branded nokia 6300 on ebay for a decent rate. Also suggestions as to a better phone to use.
The other question is whether when I hooked the sim-free kaiser up to t-mobile, I would be able to get web n walk and all the other services set up OK. Don't want the T-Mobile front screen etc, just as long as everything works. I would imagine that cooking roms and stuff for it would be much easier as it was a vanilla phone, I am just worried about making the operator-specific settings...
Any other advice welcomed, ie another provider to go with who will subsidise me on the phone and who do an all-you-can-eat bandwidth package for a decent rate.
The only non-flexible bit is that it just *has* to be a kaiser
i did something similar a few years ago, look on tmob for all the phones you can get for free and the look on ebay's finished auctions search for the phone that seems to sell for the highest amount (it is generally the newest phones). You will still be out of pocket doing this rather than just waiting a few weeks on your current contract until tmob release the kaiser.
you will be able to get web'n'walk sms/mms settings fine, but probably won't be able to access their other services like mobile tv very easily
cool, nice to know it can work out.
I think I may have found a better phone to do it with - a sony k800i
There's a few going for over 300 quid at the mo on ebay.
I can get that free with the 15 quid a month contract, that's approaching the price of a kaiser
Not really worried about the mobile TV and stuff like that, am a geek, will do it myself - slingbox or mythtv something
OK, maybe I was smoking crack before I went to lunch or something, but there were multiple K800is on ebay listed at over 300 quid. I come back, check the link and it ended for 99.
WTF?? Maybe it was in euros or lira or something.
Im also going to use this cunning plan!
But I think your best options for a free phone to sell is either the Nokia N95 or the Blackberry Pearl.
Also, ensure T Mobile puts you on a 12 month contract as opposed to a 18 month one.
Agreed that the design of the MDA Vario III looks pants.
you can't get a free N95 on 12mo contract, and on an 18mo contract, you have to go up to the 45quid a mo contract to get it free - it's 250quid on the 15/mo contract I am going to get. The k800i or similar looks to be the phone that is going for the most on ebay that you can get for free with the 15/mo contract.
Am prolly gonna go with the 18mo contract as it is only actually 30quid more for 6 months more contract and you get more minutes / texts
Plus then I can get the web n walk for 7.50 and am still only paying a total of 22.50 a month
Okay. I talked T Mobile in throwing in a free N95, how much do you think it would sell for on ebay? I have no idea of the worth of these Nokias
If its unlocked, probably £250+
Don't get caught though
Here in the NL you could just go to any telecom shop and get any phone they hold in comination to any subscribtion with any provider. Of course these telecom shops are not affiliated with any particular network and usually the discount you get for the phone are approx 50 euros less then T-Mobile for example but it is worth 50 euros to have an unbranded and unlocket phone...(this what I am doing actually right now via a website)
Of course if you get Branded t-mobile device you get a free Micro SD card with it and the best is the guarantee for the duration of your contract. Plus here in the NL if you need to send it for a repair it goes much quicker then via HTC... T-Mobile send you prestamped & preaddressed envelope (a special one) which you use to send in your device. I haad to use this service on my Vario II when I got allignment issues and I had my phone back fixed after 4 business days. Alternatively you can bring your phone to a t-mobile shop and they even offer you a temporary replacement phone (a junky one) but then it takes longer as it has to go throught their main depot.
I am right now ordering a TyTn II via my resellers website with T-Mobile Flex 40 renewal + PITP the phone costs me including shipment 125 Euros...
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Okay. I talked T Mobile in throwing in a free N95, how much do you think it would sell for on ebay? I have no idea of the worth of these Nokias
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Well I see two on ebay currently bidding at £544 and £655 but I saw phones yesterday going for silly amounts and then went back to a more reasonable amount. Maybe bids are getting rejected or someone is playing around.
What tariff did you have to go on to get one chucked in for free??
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Here in the NL you could just go to any telecom shop and get any phone they hold in comination to any subscribtion with any provider. Of course these telecom shops are not affiliated with any particular network and usually the discount you get for the phone are approx 50 euros less then T-Mobile for example but it is worth 50 euros to have an unbranded and unlocket phone...(this what I am doing actually right now via a website)..
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You can do this in the UK, but it seems that T-mobile do not allow this unless the phone is branded or approved or something. Annoying as tmob is the only one doing a flat rate 3G bandwidth package for a reasonable amount (£7.50 pm or £1 a day) I am going to explore this avenue myself, but it seems to me that you can get way more subsidy by getting a whole phone and selling it.
T Mobile wont permit this in the UK because they like to attach branded phones to their contracts, these days banning services such as MSN messenger (which the Vario III will have disabled by default)
Is MSN etc blocked on web n walk now? I heard before that it was technically against the terms, but it was possible.
What about other stuff? I would ideally like to set up some kind of media centre at home and have it pull any mp3s / videos etc I like over the net.
What about VPN? Could I maybe VPN to my home and route everything inside a tunnel, thus denying tmob the ability to see what I am transferring?
I tried selling a phone a while ago on eBay. From past auctions I was expecting to sell my phone for £200 but at the last minute someone bid £350. The PayPal details said "Kate from Richmond" (an expensive area in London) had bought the phone. It was then that I received an email from someone in Nigeria asking me to send it to Lagos... they promised £50 extra for P&P but it was obviously a scam. They started sending through spoofed PayPal receipts claiming to have paid money into my account (even though my PayPal account said differently) and in the end they got quite aggressive and threatened to report me to eBay.
Just thought I'd warn you
OK, that makes sense.
LOL, one of those N95s just finished @ £1131 !
Normal bidding, then silly bids from "Bidder 1", "Bidder 2" etc...
Looks like the 419 business is getting too much heat so the Lads from Lagos have switched to a new tack.
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I tried selling a phone a while ago on eBay. From past auctions I was expecting to sell my phone for £200 but at the last minute someone bid £350. The PayPal details said "Kate from Richmond" (an expensive area in London) had bought the phone. It was then that I received an email from someone in Nigeria asking me to send it to Lagos... they promised £50 extra for P&P but it was obviously a scam. They started sending through spoofed PayPal receipts claiming to have paid money into my account (even though my PayPal account said differently) and in the end they got quite aggressive and threatened to report me to eBay.
Just thought I'd warn you
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I have dealt with these scammers a many a time on ebay. They totally ruin things for all.
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Is MSN etc blocked on web n walk now? I heard before that it was technically against the terms, but it was possible.
What about other stuff? I would ideally like to set up some kind of media centre at home and have it pull any mp3s / videos etc I like over the net.
What about VPN? Could I maybe VPN to my home and route everything inside a tunnel, thus denying tmob the ability to see what I am transferring?
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Its not blocked. Its frowned upon. However T Mobile are now disabling use of it via firmware, hence one of the reasons why the Vario III is being delayed.
So guys, if I sell a new unopened T Mobile N95 for £250, you think its reasonable? Or could I push for more £££s? That Kaiser isnt cheap!
To clarify on Web n Walk...
On the normal (£7.50) tariff, only surfing and email is allowed.
On the Web n Walk Plus (£12.50) tariff, everything except VOIP is allowed.
I will probably go with the £7.50 one and if they moan, go on to the £12.50 one
So guys, if I sell a new unopened T Mobile N95 for £250, you think its reasonable? Or could I push for more £££s? That Kaiser isnt cheap!
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Dunno, might only get £200. Most of the ones over £200 seem to be tampered with...
What you might be better of doing is browsing the net and seeing if you can get 1 on a 12 month free contract with a cheepish phone and then the money u save on the contract put with selling the cheaper phone might get u somewhere...
So where is the best place to get this phone off contract? I have been free of the Verizon strangle hold for over a year now and will never go back...
BTW... I'm still rocking the Droid Incredible, now running CM7, that I picked up on release day...what an awesome phone!
bvd
If you buy it from Verizon directly, it's $589. If you buy it from Best Buy, or anywhere else, it's going to be $699.
However, if you buy it from Best Buy, you can pay them something like $60 for their buyback program. When you want to buy another phone, just give it to them for a buyback and they will give you credit for half of the retail price towards a new off-contract phone.
So when you want to trade your Bionic in, it'll be $350 off a new phone. This works even if you buy on-contract, they still give you half of the retail price when you trade it in. This only works on phones that have been activated at Best Buy.
Not sure where the best place to get it is, but this is one expensive phone, it almost approaches Iphone retail price. Maybe try grabbing one off a reputable seller on Ebay?
Are you even able to unlock it to use on a service other than Verizon?
I bought mine full retail at Verizon. One BB I talked to wouldn't match Verizon's retail price. One did match an AT&T price on a Captivate, but that was only $30 different, not $110.
I bought it for $589 at BestBuy yesterday. (they price matched the local verizonwireless store). The buyback program which was referred to earlier is a sliding scale (which I don't have in front of me). I do know that it's 50% of the retail price of the phone for the first 6 months (assuming that you don't scratch it). If memory serves me after 2 years its down at 20%.
Also as far as the buyback is concerned it does not make a difference if you bought the phone on or off contract.
I had bought a thunderbolt a few months back for $299, signed up for a 2 year, to lock in the unlimited data. I traded up to the bionic yesterday and got $350 back for my thunderbolt since it retailed at $699 back when I got it.
Wait jstrangfeld, are you saying the buyback program is based on the retail price of the phone REGARDLESS of what you paid for it?
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Wait jstrangfeld, are you saying the buyback program is based on the retail price of the phone REGARDLESS of what you paid for it?
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You bet.
I paid $299 for my Thunderbolt in june (with a 2 year contract). It retailed for 699 at the time. Yesterday when I got my bionic I got $350 for my tbolt (less than 6 month = 50% of retail value).
So I had to pay $589 - $350 = $239. Actually I paid a bit more due to taxes getting screen protector and what not but you get the idea.
Interesting...thanks. Makes me tempted to go buy a Bionic right now since I could upgrade it to the rumored Nexus Prime if it really is all that and a box of crackers when it comes out in 2-3 months, lol. I'd still take a bath on the price of it, though; since I'd be buying it for retail price. Bleh.
Most eBay phones are going to be more expensive than Verizon. Honestly right now your best choice is to buy through Verizon. If you wait a few weeks you may be able to pick up some good sellers from eBay or elsewhere.
Hey guys! I bought an Xperia Z1 LTE from Phones4u (UK contract place) and took out their Phones4u care, basically if you break the phone, you can pay a fixed price and get a brand new phone either the same day if they have one, or sent straight to your home the next day. (I pay £5 extra a month for this)
Basically my question is if I have rooted my phone, do you think this plan will be void, also if I unlock my bootloader, what do you think/know?
Wondering this because I have my phone rooted right now but I'm looking to unlock my bootloader so I have more possibilities etc.
On an off note, the 'anti shatter' protector has a cut/slit in it. I've heard taking the protector off also voids your warranty, any way to get around this? Or do I have to live with a slit in my protector for aslong as I have the phone?
Attached is the lovely slit that is on my protector, driving me nuts!
Thanks!
Jake.
I know someone who works for Phone4U and their advice to me was stay clear of such things, they are basically a scam. Having removed your phone from the box is basically reason enough to void the policy, if they can't void it in a legit way they will literally use every excuse under the sun to get you to pay for a new handset.
I'm afraid to say you have 'insurance' from a phone company...a company who make their money from selling handsets and contracts.
Well, everything regarding shipping is from a thread in 2015 so I decided to make this post. I'm 100% going to be getting this phone (in 3-5 weeks), but I haven't decided how yet. I could go through Google Play and pay an extra $100 + the shipping costs or go through some sketchy website like Kijiji (using 'sketchy' loosely) to save one or maybe even two hundred bucks. Basically I'm trying to see if it is worth the extra money to go through Play, but I don't know how much shipping costs are for Canadians (me). Can anyone who recently bought phone let me know how much shipping is?
If it makes any difference, I am looking into the white, 64 GB version (but will settle for 32 GB). I guess the main reason why I'm debating over Google Play is because a white Nexus 6 almost never shows up on Kijiji (especially LNIB, let alone BNIB) and I'm terrified to try Craigslist because of all the stories I've heard, but I've used Kijiji numerous times. Anyways, thanks guys!
There is absolutely no difference between craigslist and kijiji. They're both scammer central.
If you DO end up deciding to go the "used" route, meet the seller face to face, and bring a laptop that has fastboot installed. Perform a fastboot oem unlock on the thing before you hand over any money. If he declines, or the process fails... the phone is definitely stolen.
As far as what shipping costs.... you can go far enough through the purchasing process to find that out before committing to it, so how about just finding out that way?