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You lost root when you rolled back to rc 29. You'll need to redo the process.
Yep just like he said. When you reload RC29 you lose root.
Yes I know I lost root not worried about that. My phone will not let me install in apk. From the market or the internet. I can down load them but not install them
any ideas
let me clear stuff up. i know i lost root im not trying to flash anything to my phone. ( i have rooted 3 different g1s several times and a couple of different ways i have good idea how this works i think)
i cant install any application on my phone!
i am getting a installation unsuccessful error with all .apks on rc 29.
also this mean i can not get root back do the fact i cant telnet or run any third party app.
so my phone i stuck in original stock hell.
jmon777 said:
let me clear stuff up. i know i lost root im not trying to flash anything to my phone. ( i have rooted 3 different g1s several times and a couple of different ways i have good idea how this works i think)
i cant install any application on my phone!
i am getting a installation unsuccessful error with all .apks on rc 29.
also this mean i can not get root back do the fact i cant telnet or run any third party app.
so my phone i stuck in original stock hell.
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have you tried re-doing the DREAIMG.nbh
i hope you are not stuck in stock hell
david1171 said:
have you tried re-doing the DREAIMG.nbh
i hope you are not stuck in stock hell
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yeah i did 3 or 4 times. i tried new down load no luck still. what the heck is this? i am stumped!!!!
jmon777 said:
yeah i did 3 or 4 times. im going to try a a new one and see if that helps maybe it some how got corrupted.
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man i really hope that is it. stock is so sad
david1171 said:
man i really hope that is it. stock is so sad
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no luck is there an way to flash a newer rom to the phone without root?
jmon777 said:
no luck is there an way to flash a newer rom to the phone without root?
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unasari1 (i think that is his name) has the ota cupcake rom in his sig uploaded to media fire. download it and flash it, then use one click root to flash the recovery and flash your custom rom from it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563882 he has a post in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550050 my one click root guide (though i know you are smart enough to do it easily but it has a link to get the recovery flasher)
david1171 said:
unasari1 (i think that is his name) has the ota cupcake rom in his sig uploaded to media fire. download it and flash it, then use one click root to flash the recovery and flash your custom rom from it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563882 he has a post in this thead
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ok cool thats what i was trying to do but could not find it on Google. man they are pissing me off lately
jmon777 said:
ok cool thats what i was trying to do but could not find it on Google. man they are pissing me off lately
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i feel your pain. i tried to find it too and it was gone from all of their code pages. also i put my one click root guide up so you can get the recovery flasher.
i cant find that user in the user search.
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i cant find that user in the user search.
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i put a link to a thread he posted in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=1107735 here is his user profile
The problem is that rc29 is based on Android 1.0 and currently the telnet app in the market is made for Android 1.5... that's why that, or any other of your 1.5 apps, fail to install.
Try to find a copy fo the 1.0 release of telnetd and try again
david1171 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=1107735 here is his user profile
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sorry thought you were providing a link to one click root thread sorry its been a long night.
ok i think i had a swap partition still on my sd card. and when i flashed back it some how read that as internal memory so i used another card. and it worked like magic. lol gosh im dumb!!! if you ever need anything feel free to ask me i would give some money but im broke college kid. and im about to test and see if get the same results and if i do i would like the word out. because i think one click root app will be short lived (which kind of sucks).
jubeh said:
The problem is that rc29 is based on Android 1.0 and currently the telnet app in the market is made for Android 1.5... that's why that, or any other of your 1.5 apps, fail to install.
Try to find a copy fo the 1.0 release of telnetd and try again
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yes every app i tried to install failed including astro which i knew last week was working. and even so i would not get a force close instead of failure to install?
jubeh said:
The problem is that rc29 is based on Android 1.0 and currently the telnet app in the market is made for Android 1.5... that's why that, or any other of your 1.5 apps, fail to install.
Try to find a copy fo the 1.0 release of telnetd and try again
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Not true, I can drop to RC29 and download and install telnet.
It does not like our phones. Has great options but.......it sucks. Everytime I flash it on my phone my recovery goes bad in a cpl days. Never had this problem with RA. Do a search rom manager pops up all over the place with bad recoveries. Stop using it ppl. Im sure ill get flamed for this but oh well. Kinda tired of reading of noobs that fall victim to a .apk that seems very easy to use until it craps out and then your stuck at the airport with a bad recovery and ADB no where in sight. Or even if u had ADB you still have no clue how to fix it!!!!!!!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742007
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=762325
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7443928&highlight=revovery#post7443928
I couldn't agree more.
never used it thank goodness.........
Never happened to me
EDIT: Sorry for my rudeness, anyways, people should know that it's not the greatest idea to use rom manager with cm5/cm6. It has already been established that it may be a bad idea to use the program with the following roms. Sorry I get really cranky in the mornings, not the best idea to come onto the forum with some old news :|
protomanez said:
Never happened to me, you're obviously too stupid to use it.
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I have never used it and I agree with him just from all the posts I have seen related too it messing up people's recovery images. Does that make me stupid?
I've used it for a few weeks now with no problems on my MyTouch on 1.6, 2.1, and 2.2 ROMs. Not saying others aren't having legitimate issues, but people in general are much more likely to post negative reports than positive ones.
protomanez said:
Never happened to me, you're obviously too stupid to use it.
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hahahahaha good one. Not to stupid to use it. the ui is very simple and easy to use. Flash clockwork or flash alternate. What im to stupid to do is figure out how to fix it after it kills recovery. but thank you for your input, I'm sure it will help someone out.
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Never happened to me, you're obviously too stupid to use it.
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Please lead us retartds through your install procedure, current rom, set-up so we can be as learndededed as you. I have had cm5&6 with ra installed upon initial set up. No swap/ noext1234, stock mt3g spl 2.22.23.02 radio. Nothing special. I even did it with the donut mytouch rom w/root.I only use basic apps, nothing that would interfere with recovery. to me it seems that when u flash a cpl different roms a day is when it hangs up. I can usually get the phone to boot back up, which gives me a chance to get back into rom manager and flash ra recovery back to the phone. the last cpl times I had to wipe cache before it would actually flash RA recovery. so basically if u can get the phone to boot past the splash screen go to rom manager and flash the **** out of ra recovery until it works. First we found out that clockwork didnt like flashing zip's and backups on low batteries 30% and lower. then the always fun recoverly log issue(cant recall the exact error right now) and of course the cant get to recovery issue. I know it's not a widesporead problem but it is a problem that renders phones useless until u can find someone nice enough to help u and not treat u like a retard. Not everyone knows as much about phones as you guys do....congratulations you know all there is about phones. go learn some ****ing human decency, if u have nothing helpful to say then shut up.
have been using it without Rom manager and highly disagree with the poster.doing it 'wrong' or without knowing 'how to' can certainly cause problems but that should not be described as the problem of the product. lot of people can not use nuclear power correctly (look at the USA) and now we call describe nuclear power as menace which is lame :/
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arefin said:
have been using it without Rom manager and highly disagree with the poster.doing it 'wrong' or without knowing 'how to' can certainly cause problems but that should not be described as the problem of the product. lot of people can not use nuclear power correctly (look at the USA) and now we call describe nuclear power as menace which is lame :/
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hmmmmm. Maybe since its flashing clockwork from inside rom manager is what might be killing it for some of us. tonight I will try just flashing clockwork outside of rom manager and see how that goes. i like clockwork's set up and it is easy to use, just kinda freaks me out when my recovery goes bad.
arefin said:
have been using it without Rom manager and highly disagree with the poster.doing it 'wrong' or without knowing 'how to' can certainly cause problems but that should not be described as the problem of the product. lot of people can not use nuclear power correctly (look at the USA) and now we call describe nuclear power as menace which is lame :/
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but at the same time thats why it is a part of rom manager. one click recovery flasher. to make it "easy". i highly doubt you can go into rom manager and incorrectly flash clockwork recovery. its a one click thing
it's also spoken out at many threads at xda that flashing the recovery from within the OS causes issues, so trying to install the recovery from PC or even RA1.7 should be a better option.
I'm considering that you already know the commands for that. better luck! remember, clock work will allow you to flash anything without signing - meaning? you can edit any update.zip to your liking and then forget about all the trouble of signing it before flashing. a simple toggle should do the trick while you are in recovery mode happy flashing.
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It is either a case of your phone, sd card setup/left over files etc..
I use rom manager on every phone I root with no problems since its release. 6 G1's, 3 Fender LE's, 7 Mytouch 1.2 and 4 Evos. Sometimes, it takes couple seconds to show up or go into recovery, but that doesnt mean its gone. Recovery cant just dissapear without something either trying to over write it or it being erased.
crypysmoker said:
It is either a case of your phone, sd card setup/left over files etc..
I use rom manager on every phone I root with no problems since its release. 6 G1's, 3 Fender LE's, 7 Mytouch 1.2 and 4 Evos. Sometimes, it takes couple seconds to show up or go into recovery, but that doesnt mean its gone. Recovery cant just dissapear without something either trying to over write it or it being erased.
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Im gonna give it one more try. I dont think I have ever.....
flashed clockwork from rom manager
reboot into recovery from rom manager right then (read some where that on some roms when u reboot to recovery using the regular way it might mess up....not sure about this one).
wipe everything (clockwork wipes more that amon ra)
reflash any rom
in my case... above steps then in this order
flash fireats custom mtd part 1.1
super E
Gapps
overclock update
fireats custom mtd part 1.2
anyone see a issue with what I have done so far??
Ok I will post back when clockwork fails again.....and if not f-in sweet
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It does not like our phones. Has great options but.......it sucks. Everytime I flash it on my phone my recovery goes bad in a cpl days. Never had this problem with RA. Do a search rom manager pops up all over the place with bad recoveries. Stop using it ppl. Im sure ill get flamed for this but oh well. Kinda tired of reading of noobs that fall victim to a .apk that seems very easy to use until it craps out and then your stuck at the airport with a bad recovery and ADB no where in sight. Or even if u had ADB you still have no clue how to fix it!!!!!!!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742007
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=762325
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7443928&highlight=revovery#post7443928
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chrisgto4 said:
hahahahaha good one. Not to stupid to use it. the ui is very simple and easy to use. Flash clockwork or flash alternate. What im to stupid to do is figure out how to fix it after it kills recovery. but thank you for your input, I'm sure it will help someone out.
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You found your answer within the first example link that you provided, look at post #3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742007
rom manager is not for idiots like yourself. rom manager is a great tool for many different phones. sometimes it doesnt flash a recovery correctly maybe it be poor service to download the recovery, or low memory when flashing it. an advanced user (who its made for) can still flash recovery via fastboot, and have all the helpfulness and easy ui of rom manager and easy access to cm nightlies.
dont knock a dev who works on many different phones, and dont rely on noob application reports and bad reviews. anyone who finds rom manager crap is just a poor android user.
tehseano said:
sometimes it doesnt flash a recovery correctly maybe it be poor service to download the recovery, or low memory when flashing it.
dont rely on noob application reports and bad reviews. anyone who finds rom manager crap is just a poor android user.
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i didn't want to get into this pointless discussion, but you have made a ****ty argument for rom mgr, you have confirmed that it doesn't work properly in certain circumstances, which is a good enough reason to not bother with it.
also, why shouldn't we rely on bad reviews? that's the point of a review, to give some idea about what experience to expect.
(i have never used it myself, amon ra recovery is enough for me.)
I agree it is an 'easy' shortcut that is not the best decision.. Like for example I think it killed my phone. I repaired permissions via rom manager, rebooted as it told me to and now my g1 wont boot past the g1 logo. I could install from a backup but the backup is 1+ month old (my error oops!). I am hoping to find a solution... Really dont wanna wipe everything..
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i didn't want to get into this pointless discussion, but you have made a ****ty argument for rom mgr, you have confirmed that it doesn't work properly in certain circumstances, which is a good enough reason to not bother with it.
also, why shouldn't we rely on bad reviews? that's the point of a review, to give some idea about what experience to expect.
(i have never used it myself, amon ra recovery is enough for me.)
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I made a perfectly good argument. Yes it can "mess up", but thats not at the fault of the app. It's at the fault of the phone. There are things that can go wrong that Koush cannot control. It is for ADVANCED users as a quick helpful UI for recovery-based operations. People that don't know what they're doing, or only half-way do shouldn't be using it. However, too many Android users *think* they are advanced enough, yet 5 minutes after using it, post a "PLEASE HELP, PHONE IS BROKEN", because they DON'T know what they're doing.
I'm not saying that all bad reviews are missguied, but I can assure that 90% of them are from noobs that have no idea what they're doing. They rooted their phone because someone told them it was cool, and they have absolutetly no idea whats in their hands and what they can do with it. Let alone, how to properly work it and fix problems. It's easy as pie to point out noobs from those crowds of users, those 3 links in the OP's post are all perfectly examples. People who came to XDA, signed up, never posted anything, then messed up and came crying to the board asking for help (usually in Android Development because people like them, and the OP too, don't how to to post in the correct section).
So for the last time, if you don't know what you're doing on your phone, don't do it. Just because you have root, and an app says "for root users", doesn't mean its for you, which EVERYONE assumes it is. It's piss-poor users like that, that ruin app reviews and the name of Android everywhere.
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I made a perfectly good argument. Yes it can "mess up", but thats not at the fault of the app. It's at the fault of the phone. There are things that can go wrong that Koush cannot control. It is for ADVANCED users as a quick helpful UI for recovery-based operations. People that don't know what they're doing, or only half-way do shouldn't be using it. However, too many Android users *think* they are advanced enough, yet 5 minutes after using it, post a "PLEASE HELP, PHONE IS BROKEN", because they DON'T know what they're doing.
I'm not saying that all bad reviews are missguied, but I can assure that 90% of them are from noobs that have no idea what they're doing. They rooted their phone because someone told them it was cool, and they have absolutetly no idea whats in their hands and what they can do with it. Let alone, how to properly work it and fix problems. It's easy as pie to point out noobs from those crowds of users, those 3 links in the OP's post are all perfectly examples. People who came to XDA, signed up, never posted anything, then messed up and came crying to the board asking for help (usually in Android Development because people like them, and the OP too, don't how to to post in the correct section).
So for the last time, if you don't know what you're doing on your phone, don't do it. Just because you have root, and an app says "for root users", doesn't mean its for you, which EVERYONE assumes it is. It's piss-poor users like that, that ruin app reviews and the name of Android everywhere.
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Get a clue , its a program any gimp, including you, can install from the market, it is made in such way ...the fact that it dosent fail to write the recovery in fastboot mode means nothing!
This program shouldnt let the G1 user flesh any rec image. Till that happens it is the DEV's fault. Shouldnt be in the G1 CM's either.
I ordered me a Captivate and it's shipped from MD and should be here Thursday, but in the mean time, I'm doing research on what to do and how to do it.
I found the one click root..Does it work for the newest Captivates??
Lag Fix?? What is it and how do I fix it?
Roms..I'm coming from a G1..Is flashing a rom on the Captivate anything like the G1??
Will the upgrade from a G1 to a Captivate be very noticeable???LOL
Thanks folks
~SMurf
Step 1 : replace touchUI with launcher pro.
Step 2 : wait for the froyo rom to be released.
The lag fixes give you a slight improvment but don't give you much of a real world performance increase, i'd just wait until froyo gets released in a couple weeks.
Agree, it works fine with stock rom and launcher pro. So happy after using those crappy wm devices
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i'd just wait until froyo gets released in a couple weeks.
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Is there a date or estimate for froyo??
Another thing that you might want to do is install SuperRooterExtreme. It roots the phone & installs lag fix & enables side loading & a bunch more all at once. I put it on my wifes & my phone with great results. Vastly improved performance. My quadrant score went from 900 something to over 2000. I also have a G1 and the captivate rules over it.
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Is there a date or estimate for froyo??
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Samsung expects the gps fix at the end of spetember and i think they said froyo by that time also...or was it an update at that time? I'm positive about the gps thing but not the froyo.
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Samsung expects the gps fix at the end of spetember and i think they said froyo by that time also...or was it an update at that time? I'm positive about the gps thing but not the froyo.
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Awesome, I just got home with my captivate, but wish it had froyo..
about that gps thing, is that on every phone or just some?
micro2112 said:
Awesome, I just got home with my captivate, but wish it had froyo..
about that gps thing, is that on every phone or just some?
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You'll get different answers. There are people who say theirs works find. But I'm in the camp that believes all are bad, and that you just need to be in the right circumstances to experience the problem.
But I can't imagine that it won't be fixed.
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Another thing that you might want to do is install SuperRooterExtreme. It roots the phone & installs lag fix & enables side loading & a bunch more all at once. I put it on my wifes & my phone with great results. Vastly improved performance. My quadrant score went from 900 something to over 2000. I also have a G1 and the captivate rules over it.
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Got a link for that?? Is it in the market??
I appreciate the help, and seeing as the Captivate does have it's issues, I'm hoping it's gonna be a good phone..lol
I'm coming from a G1/TP2 and was excited to only pay $10 for mine..Yes I had to sign a new 2 year contract but hey..I got the money..lol
In reference to the Captivates UI and replacing it with LauncherPro, would GDE work just as good?? I do like LauncherPro but I find GDE to be more visually pleasing.
Thanks for teh info.
~SMurf
SRE is available in the Captivate Android Development section of these forums. Just make sure you read read read everything first so you don't freak out if you run into problems lol. These phones are hard to brick so flash away. ADW Launcher is another homescreen replacement that has FREE themes you can download and use and its easily found when you search the market. Grab Rom Manager and Titanium Backup as well and you should be ready to go nuts after you root. Some of the downloads in the development section root the phone for you while they also install lag fixes etc. but I'd wait to see how you like the phone before you bother with a lag fix or GPS fix. My GPS is fine but I did use a lag fix because the phone drove me nuts after being used to a tweaked Nexus One for a few months.
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SRE is available in the Captivate Android Development section of these forums. Just make sure you read read read everything first so you don't freak out if you run into problems lol. These phones are hard to brick so flash away. ADW Launcher is another homescreen replacement that has FREE themes you can download and use and its easily found when you search the market. Grab Rom Manager and Titanium Backup as well and you should be ready to go nuts after you root. Some of the downloads in the development section root the phone for you while they also install lag fixes etc. but I'd wait to see how you like the phone before you bother with a lag fix or GPS fix. My GPS is fine but I did use a lag fix because the phone drove me nuts after being used to a tweaked Nexus One for a few months.
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Got my Captivate today and love it so far. I did root it with an update.zip from a friends captivate and have superuser installed. Should i go ahead and flash Clockwork? Also, i have live walpapers on my sd card but i cant get to them. Any help?
What about sideloading? I did the adb commands all the way thru correctly but it want let me install apps. Do I have to go thru adb with the install command?
I appreciate the help guys. Thanks
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Step 1 : replace touchUI with launcher pro.
Step 2 : wait for the froyo rom to be released.
The lag fixes give you a slight improvment but don't give you much of a real world performance increase, i'd just wait until froyo gets released in a couple weeks.
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i'm in the same boat as the OP and i'm wondering when you upgrade the firmware to 2.2, will you lose all the stuff you've done to the phone (like the mods and stuff)?
OK folks...Having an issue.
I rooted my phone, and I'm trying to get side loading to work...or some sort of app installing thing to work. I tried to flash clockwork but apparently it didn't work(hit with an error after reoping the app) and for some reason Superuser app keeps crashing and none of my apps and get root...Did I unroot it??
I tried to use the "Unleash The Beast" update.zip and thats when everything starting going bonkers..Can I go to stock and start over??
Yes you can flash back to stock with the Odin One Click Downloader...then I'd run one of the update.zips that roots and installs other tools like Busybox etc., just take your time and read the instructions before you try anything new. There are 2 versions of Odin so make sure you have the one from the One Click Downloader post (the other is for flashing roms and kernals, not restoring to stock), and install the android sdk and learn some basic adb commands ( adb reboot recovery, adb reboot download,makes life so much easier). With a little time you'll get the hang of it...just watch out for driver issues and make sure you follow the instructions and you really can't brick the phone. Odin is your friend and you need it anyways to flash back to stock before you try some of the new fixes, mods etc. GL, I won't be around much now as I am forced to sell my phone due to being unemployed but I'm already scheming to get a new one from Amazon for a penny lol.
EDIT: I read the post for Unleash the beast and it says its ok if your already rooted so I don't think that was the problem. Your best bet is to get to a PC or laptop and use Odin to flash back to stock (once your in download mode and the phone is recognized, it really is one click lol) then run Unleash the beast again. If you can't get su to work in the terminal app then you don"t have root, but you do have superuser permissons installed so I'm kinda at a loss. Might as well get used to flashing back to stock anyways if you like to hack and try new things lol I used Odin at least 20 times over the course of a few days!
after reading your edit post, I'm much happier..LOL
I'm fine with reflashing to stock as long as Titanium does my back ups. I was gonna reflash tonight and do as suggested. I'm also fine with Adb. I'm coming from a G1 and Adb is very familiar to me..LOL
Thanks for the info and help and you'll prolly get a Pm from me if I'm stuck..LOL
Sent from my Captivate to the best site in the world.
I spent hours per day for weeks reading through this and other forums I advise you to read read read and read some more before you do anything to it that way you will understand everything a bit better and remember.
for every action there is a reaction
After I found out I was getting one,I searched and read and read some more. I'm comfortable with Adb and the terminal, and after reading about the not so easy to brickness,I'm sorta happier..LOL
I do have an issue tho with Clockwork. After I installed rom manager, I flashed the recovery and rebooted. It booted into clockwork but I didn't know what else to do. I flashed my G1 on almost a daily basis and understand the update.zip files...but where do I get it? I did my backup and its still on my SD card but I'm still using the stock recovery. Do I flash my backup?
I've got my phone just about how I want it and all I'm waiting for are the Rome and 2.2 along with everyone else..lol
Thanks for the help.
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alright... i was planning on getting my captivate today cuz ive been dying to get a new phone! coming from a tilt 2, flashed with a ROM from NRG, and running froyo (although it still feels very sluggish lol). i was gonna use my wife's upgrade but isn't eligible till sept 9!! if it were me i would pay the extra $75 on top of the 2 yr renewal but it is her upgrade =p. my question is similar to the OP. but i have a mac and im sure rooting and such is different. ive read in different forums and read read read and still feel uncertain.... ive also watched youtube vids on rooting but still not sure what is the most reliable program... any suggestions or possibly provide the one YOU used to root ur captivate? after rooting are there any other apps you need to dl? not talking about gps fix and all cuz i can wait on that. after rooting, when froyo comes along, will you need to re-root? will u lose everything if you update? before my tilt 2 i had iphone 2g and was very familiar with jailbreaking and all. so i have experience on flashing and jailbreaking and hoping rooting will be as easy =). thank you all for helping one another! keep up the great work!
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alright... i was planning on getting my captivate today cuz ive been dying to get a new phone! coming from a tilt 2, flashed with a ROM from NRG, and running froyo (although it still feels very sluggish lol). i was gonna use my wife's upgrade but isn't eligible till sept 9!! if it were me i would pay the extra $75 on top of the 2 yr renewal but it is her upgrade =p. my question is similar to the OP. but i have a mac and im sure rooting and such is different. ive read in different forums and read read read and still feel uncertain.... ive also watched youtube vids on rooting but still not sure what is the most reliable program... any suggestions or possibly provide the one YOU used to root ur captivate? after rooting are there any other apps you need to dl? not talking about gps fix and all cuz i can wait on that. after rooting, when froyo comes along, will you need to re-root? will u lose everything if you update? before my tilt 2 i had iphone 2g and was very familiar with jailbreaking and all. so i have experience on flashing and jailbreaking and hoping rooting will be as easy =). thank you all for helping one another! keep up the great work!
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Since your gonna be on a stock Captivate, you can just use the Unleash the Beast method. Its in the android dev section. Download of and rename it to update.zip and boot into recovery, and install the update. Then you'll be rooted and have the ability to sideload. After you do it, go to terminal and type such..then sideloading..or sideloader..its in the post, and you'll be good to go. Works for me...lol
I'm still trying to get clockwork to work..lol. If you flash Clockwork and can boot into it via the volume+power buttons, please pm me..lol
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Since your gonna be on a stock Captivate, you can just use the Unleash the Beast method. Its in the android dev section. Download of and rename it to update.zip and boot into recovery, and install the update. Then you'll be rooted and have the ability to sideload. After you do it, go to terminal and type such..then sideloading..or sideloader..its in the post, and you'll be good to go. Works for me...lol
I'm still trying to get clockwork to work..lol. If you flash Clockwork and can boot into it via the volume+power buttons, please pm me..lol
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wow thank you for posting that!! i went to check it out and it looks awesome! i mean ive always been on xda and browsed androidforums but never dl anything androidforums. always trusted xda but im sure they are the same and have different resources . so whats this clockwork you speak of lol. i am a noob on android. is that to boost speed or something?
EDIT: i was reading that thread and seems ppl are having issues with wifi tethering. is urs working fine?
Sorry for the long read, this is half rant and half question.
Alright, I got a captivate a long time ago (about a year and 3 months ago), loved it, rooted it and installed cyanogenmod as soon as I got home, changed roms and kernals constantly, did whatever I wanted to do.
About 3 months ago my screen stopped working.. So I take it in and they give me a refurb captivate, looked brand new so I didn't mind. However, when I tried to get into recovery it didn't work, the 3-button-method just wouldn't work at all, period, so I try to get it to work, gets stuck in bootloop.. pretty much every time I try to flash a rom something goes wrong and I get stuck in a bootloop but I can usually get into recovery or download mode because I had CWM.
So I'm on maxq's rom and it's working great for the past 2 months, decide not to mess with kernals or anything, however today I decided to try ICS, load it up, everything's fine, then I realize my soft keys aren't working, search for awhile, can't find anything, finally just manually start looking through the rom pages, and someone said that if you have the problem to just odin back to stock and try again.
I odin back to stock, but now 3 button combo doesn't work.. So more searching, find that I can run the 3e fix by TRusselo, doesn't work because I need root, more searching on how to root without recovery, find "SuperOneClick", root with superoneclick, then run 3e fix, everything is working fine, I check my email and load the ICS files onto SD card, go to restart and go into recovery mode.. Bricked, stuck in a bootloop, won't go to recovery, won't go to download, nothing.
Why the **** was I able to do anything I wanted with my old captivate, but if I even root this one it bricks? And what did I do to even brick it? I only ran the 2 programs and both of them worked flawlessly.
I guess my only option is to usb jig it, but honestly now I'm convinced that the phone is just faulty, I want to run the thing over.
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So I'm on maxq's rom and it's working great for the past 2 months, decide not to mess with kernals or anything, however today I decided to try ICS, load it up, everything's fine, then I realize my soft keys aren't working, search for awhile, can't find anything, finally just manually start looking through the rom pages, and someone said that if you have the problem to just odin back to stock and try again.
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If you would have actually searched you would have known it was a bug in the glitch. There are atleast 40 pages about that.
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I odin back to stock, but now 3 button combo doesn't work.. So more searching, find that I can run the 3e fix by TRusselo, doesn't work because I need root, more searching on how to root without recovery, find "SuperOneClick", root with superoneclick, then run 3e fix, everything is working fine, I check my email and load the ICS files onto SD card, go to restart and go into recovery mode.. Bricked, stuck in a bootloop, won't go to recovery, won't go to download, nothing.
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If you flashed ICS you should know it takes 2 flashes for it to work first time. Having a jig around is always a good idea as well.
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Why the **** was I able to do anything I wanted with my old captivate, but if I even root this one it bricks? And what did I do to even brick it? I only ran the 2 programs and both of them worked flawlessly.
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Stuff doesn't work as intended. Keep in mind everything is still in dev and not all devices are the same. But you should have searched a little more and it would have ran =/
U def don't need a jig. If it's booting it's not bricked. Try removing battery, start Odin, hold down power and down, plug in and put battery in. This should bring u to download mode.
prbassplayer said:
If you would have actually searched you would have known it was a bug in the glitch. There are atleast 40 pages about that.
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I did start to see a few people with the problem, however many people do not follow up with what fixes their problem, and I did what a few people had said to do.
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If you flashed ICS you should know it takes 2 flashes for it to work first time. Having a jig around is always a good idea as well.
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I should of mentioned that I did flash a few times, 3 total I think, it was getting stuck at boot.
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Stuff doesn't work as intended. Keep in mind everything is still in dev and not all devices are the same. But you should have searched a little more and it would have ran =/
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I understand that **** happens but honestly my old captivate could always get into recover mode and download mode no matter what, it's extremely frustrating that something changed with the newer models. One of my questions was what caused the brick? I did nothing wrong from what I see and it was running perfectly until I tried to restart/boot into recovery.
Oh and mbc663, thanks but download mode doesn't work at all, nor does recovery obviously.
I can't say exactly what you are doing. Best advice I can do Re download your .zips Flash back to stock GB and try again.
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About 3 months ago my screen stopped working.. So I take it in and they give me a refurb captivate, looked brand new so I didn't mind. However, when I tried to get into recovery it didn't work, the 3-button-method just wouldn't work at all, period, so I try to get it to work, gets stuck in bootloop.. pretty much every time I try to flash a rom something goes wrong and I get stuck in a bootloop but I can usually get into recovery or download mode because I had CWM.
So I'm on maxq's rom and it's working great for the past 2 months, decide not to mess with kernals or anything, however today I decided to try ICS, load it up, everything's fine, then I realize my soft keys aren't working, search for awhile, can't find anything, finally just manually start looking through the rom pages, and someone said that if you have the problem to just odin back to stock and try again.
I odin back to stock, but now 3 button combo doesn't work.. So more searching, find that I can run the 3e fix by TRusselo, doesn't work because I need root, more searching on how to root without recovery, find "SuperOneClick", root with superoneclick, then run 3e fix, everything is working fine, I check my email and load the ICS files onto SD card, go to restart and go into recovery mode.. Bricked, stuck in a bootloop, won't go to recovery, won't go to download, nothing.
Why the **** was I able to do anything I wanted with my old captivate, but if I even root this one it bricks? And what did I do to even brick it? I only ran the 2 programs and both of them worked flawlessly.
I guess my only option is to usb jig it, but honestly now I'm convinced that the phone is just faulty, I want to run the thing over.
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Last year, I had issues with my original Cap, and got a "new" one. I learned that the bulk of the Caps going out as replacements are referbs. The one I got was a 1008 build, and does not have 3 button recovery. There are minor differences with each and every Cap that's out there. That's why some have issues with ROM's and some don't, some can over clock like crazy, and some can't at all. My guess is you have a 1008 as well, but that really doesn't matter. You just have a different device and as you seem to already have learned.
It sounds like there is more research you need to do. Even though the devices are a bit different, if you are having issues with ROM's loading, then I would say it's more of a procedure issue, than one with your device.
My procedure, is,
Remove SD/Micro SD
Odin1 Click to Stock JF6, and Master Clear(This will erase EVERYTHING)
Root with One-Click Root
Use Sideload Wonder Machine to install ROM Manager, copy update.zip and 3buttonFix to my SD, then reboot into recovery
Once in recovery I install the 3buttonFix, and install my new ROM
For me this has proven to be a very good method versus going from one ROM to another. The Master Clear cleans EVERYTHING off of your SD, so there is no chance for anything to corrupt your new install. Anytime I read a post of a install gone FUBAR, USUALLY a Flash To Stock/Master Clear (FTS/MC) fixes it
Before using Odin 1 Click, check your devices build number!! If it is higher than 1012, I would NOT recommend using 1 click, there is a higher chance of hard brick on the newer devices
Kangi...if you flash a firmware package without bootloaders, you won't have to do the 3 button fix every time. And if you keep a copy of the update.zip on your pc you don't have to even root, let alone bother with side loading ROM manager.
Cezar has a no boots jf6 and after you run that, you can still use master clear in one click.
Sounds like you got one of the refurbs that is missing the SBL. Have you looked at this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129821
I've not had this problem myself but it sounds like that might help. If I remember reading correctly, once this is flashed it should stick as long as you don't flash any other bootloaders on top of it.
Its not missing the sbl. The sbl it has doesn't respond to key combos. Derpa sherpa moment for samsung I guess?
Rofl yeah...if it was missing the sbl it would be fuggin bricked!
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Kangi...if you flash a firmware package without bootloaders, you won't have to do the 3 button fix every time. And if you keep a copy of the update.zip on your pc you don't have to even root, let alone bother with side loading ROM manager.
Cezar has a no boots jf6 and after you run that, you can still use master clear in one click.
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I know, thanks. I'm such a creature of habit, I started doing it like this a bit over a year ago, and has worked flawlessly for me(just jinxed myself!) so I never saw a reason to "fix what aint broke".
I'll take a look at Cezar's thanks!
Yeah, missing SBL was a poor choice of words. My bad.
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Last year, I had issues with my original Cap, and got a "new" one. I learned that the bulk of the Caps going out as replacements are referbs. The one I got was a 1008 build, and does not have 3 button recovery. There are minor differences with each and every Cap that's out there. That's why some have issues with ROM's and some don't, some can over clock like crazy, and some can't at all. My guess is you have a 1008 as well, but that really doesn't matter. You just have a different device and as you seem to already have learned.
It sounds like there is more research you need to do. Even though the devices are a bit different, if you are having issues with ROM's loading, then I would say it's more of a procedure issue, than one with your device.
My procedure, is,
Remove SD/Micro SD
Odin1 Click to Stock JF6, and Master Clear(This will erase EVERYTHING)
Root with One-Click Root
Use Sideload Wonder Machine to install ROM Manager, copy update.zip and 3buttonFix to my SD, then reboot into recovery
Once in recovery I install the 3buttonFix, and install my new ROM
For me this has proven to be a very good method versus going from one ROM to another. The Master Clear cleans EVERYTHING off of your SD, so there is no chance for anything to corrupt your new install. Anytime I read a post of a install gone FUBAR, USUALLY a Flash To Stock/Master Clear (FTS/MC) fixes it
Before using Odin 1 Click, check your devices build number!! If it is higher than 1012, I would NOT recommend using 1 click, there is a higher chance of hard brick on the newer devices
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I didn't think anyone else was going to reply to this thread, whoops.
Thank you for helping me, but I'm still having trouble.
Rom manager doesn't show up in Market, Sideload wonder machine tells me [INSTALL FAILED OLDER SDK] with any apk of Rom manager I find.
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3buttonFix to my SD, then reboot into recovery
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How do you reboot into recovery when 3buttonfix hasn't been applied yet?
This sucks and is extremely frustrating, I feel like my captivate is just trolling me.
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I didn't think anyone else was going to reply to this thread, whoops.
Thank you for helping me, but I'm still having trouble.
Rom manager doesn't show up in Market, Sideload wonder machine tells me [INSTALL FAILED OLDER SDK] with any apk of Rom manager I find.
How do you reboot into recovery when 3buttonfix hasn't been applied yet?
This sucks and is extremely frustrating, I feel like my captivate is just trolling me.
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When I get home later tonight I'll link you everything you'll need. Again, VERY important, what is your build number? If it's 1012 or higher, don't use Odin 1 click
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kangi26 said:
When I get home later tonight I'll link you everything you'll need. Again, VERY important, what is your build number? If it's 1012 or higher, don't use Odin 1 click
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Ok, finally got it working, I did exactly what you said, I found the rom manager 3.00.002 or whatever and that worked with sideloader, it took some messing around with but I'm running ICS now, thank you so much man, you've helped me so much, and now I can change roms and keep up to date without worrying about constantly soft-bricking.
As for my build number, I'm not sure, the only thing I see under build number in settings is: "IML74k"
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Ok, finally got it working, I did exactly what you said, I found the rom manager 3.00.002 or whatever and that worked with sideloader, it took some messing around with but I'm running ICS now, thank you so much man, you've helped me so much, and now I can change roms and keep up to date without worrying about constantly soft-bricking.
As for my build number, I'm not sure, the only thing I see under build number in settings is: "IML74k"
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The build number is actually under your battery, and looks like 10.06, 10.07, 10.08 and so on. It is the production date
Edit** And as a side note, do NOT try to use the 3buttonFix with a GB ROM, it WILL brick your phone in a really bad way. ONLY use it with 2.1 or 2.2
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The build number is actually under your battery, and looks like 10.06, 10.07, 10.08 and so on. It is the production date
Edit** And as a side note, do NOT try to use the 3buttonFix with a GB ROM, it WILL brick your phone in a really bad way. ONLY use it with 2.1 or 2.2
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Is it weird that I don't have a build number? It seems I can't post pictures without a few more posts, maybe this will work: deleted
And thanks for the warning on the 3buttonfix, I'm going to have to read more about bootloaders though, I don't understand what you and studacris were talking about earlier in the thread, haha.
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Is it weird that I don't have a build number? It seems I can't post pictures without a few more posts, maybe this will work: imgurDOTcom/26sXGl.jpg
And thanks for the warning on the 3buttonfix, I'm going to have to read more about bootloaders though, I don't understand what you and studacris were talking about earlier in the thread, haha.
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I havent seen that before, there doesnt seem to be a build#
Might want to pull that photo, it's not too good having your IMEI number publicly displayed
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I havent seen that before, there doesnt seem to be a build#
Might want to pull that photo, it's not too good having your IMEI number publicly displayed
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Maybe because it's a refurb? and whoops didn't think about that.
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Maybe because it's a refurb? and whoops didn't think about that.
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I'm not sure why, mine is a referb, and I have a sticker with mine on it. Ooh well, it is what it is
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New Revo won't work with A I O, can't stand the bloat someone tell me please. Is anyone working on a root for this POS update.
oh im sure
im sure MT is on the job, but im sure a lil donatin to him would motivate him a lil.... but yeah anyway the thread "keep root through zv8" or whatever is still the only way that the general public knows about... but im sure u already knew that.
I figured as much about MT, (your the man) but i ask because my old revo worked fine with his AIO and maintain root method, but the new one i got that came pre-loaded with Zv8 wont, even after flashing several times back to zv7 and so on.
If you're readin this MT i am to poor to donate money but im willing to be a guinea pig. lol
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I figured as much about MT, (your the man) but i ask because my old revo worked fine with his AIO and maintain root method, but the new one i got that came pre-loaded with Zv8 wont, even after flashing several times back to zv7 and so on.
If you're readin this MT i am to poor to donate money but im willing to be a guinea pig. lol
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There is something you aren't doing right even if on ZV8.. You can downgrade to ZV7, then Root only with the original AIO, then create the local.prop file then download the update, then use the 2nd AIO to maintain root, install CWM, then Broken Out.
I'm inclined to believe you because aio worked the first time but then zv8 would fail to regain root and install cwm it would say failed to find path, then flashing back with .tot to zv7 and even doin a factory reset back to stock and trying again now aio won't even root zv7 it just says failed to find path and runs through real quick, if you have any suggestions I would appreciate them.
And by the first time I mean I flashed back to zv7 rooted, flashed maintain root then ota updated then zv8 aio would fail
I have tried many processes over and over again and can recall once the first all in one wouldn't root my phone. I just did a factory reset then after reboot ran the lg-setup then flashed the v7.tot again then was able to root only after that reboot.
If that doesn't work, I don't know what will but good luck
Yah tried that, no luck, well see what mt comes up with. This is a new recertified phone and it has some wierd usb issues, everytime I reflash I have to reboot to be able to use change usb connection, plus now when flash tots I dont lose phone settings like I used to,
i have money!!!!
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im sure MT is on the job, but im sure a lil donatin to him would motivate him a lil.... but yeah anyway the thread "keep root through zv8" or whatever is still the only way that the general public knows about... but im sure u already knew that.
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Money is something I have, root, I do not. It sounds like MT is the man when it comes to rooting. I would be glad to make a sizeable donation thru pay pal if I knew it would go directly to helping me game root access for my lg revolution running zv8.
See I would do the downgrading option everyone is talking about but those methods are only for pc ( I mean those download files ). I run a mac.
But seriously, I would love to have root. I used to use an iphone and was always jailbreaking. I love having that type of access so any help would be awesome!!
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Yah tried that, no luck, well see what mt comes up with. This is a new recertified phone and it has some wierd usb issues, everytime I reflash I have to reboot to be able to use change usb connection, plus now when flash tots I dont lose phone settings like I used to,
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That means nothing. I flash TOT's all the time and never loose settings or apps.
As for MT developing a root process for this phone, while I appreciate all the work he has put into this phone and his skill set, what he does and what root exploiters do are two entirely different things. MT is just gracious enough to create easy to use AIO scripts for everyone to use. I do not see a new root process coming unless another exploit is found and works on this phone.
If I am incorrect about this then MT can feel free to correct me.
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That means nothing. I flash TOT's all the time and never loose settings or apps.
As for MT developing a root process for this phone, while I appreciate all the work he has put into this phone and his skill set, what he does and what root exploiters do are two entirely different things. MT is just gracious enough to create easy to use AIO scripts for everyone to use. I do not see a new root process coming unless another exploit is found and works on this phone.
If I am incorrect about this then MT can feel free to correct me.
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+1 For root all I have found is the exploit for keeping root through the update. As for writing a fresh exploit, there are a couple of guys that specialize in it. Jcase and djrbliss are 2 of the best around. The only problem I see is that zv8 has 0 access to the data partition without root, and so what other partitions are blocked. That is why the spectrum version does not work right off of the bat.
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That means nothing. I flash TOT's all the time and never loose settings or apps.
As for MT developing a root process for this phone, while I appreciate all the work he has put into this phone and his skill set, what he does and what root exploiters do are two entirely different things. MT is just gracious enough to create easy to use AIO scripts for everyone to use. I do not see a new root process coming unless another exploit is found and works on this phone.
If I am incorrect about this then MT can feel free to correct me.
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nevermind, just had to push cwm through adb still don't know why aio zv8 failed oh well im good now, and mt thanks for debloating and debingin. lovin broken out
Well I THINK I have found WHY I cant OTA ZV8
OK. I have found somthing interesting. I have 2 Revos. BOTH are now in test mode for reasons I am to embarrased to go into. (dang Noob screwups)
ANYWAY I was playing around in LGNPST last night and discovered the Warranty Date (assuming Expiration) on one phone was 4/4/12 Ironicly the same day I unbricked it using the Phonebook emergency recovery. (what puts the the phone in test mode. )
BOTH phones are flagged in my Verizon account (VZW online) as NON VZW Phones. (even though they originally were)
I am starting to think that when you do an emergency recovery you flag not only test mode but the warranty date & some Verizon flag as well. So while the phone is functional ALL Verizon support goes Bye Bye (I.E. OTA updates) EVEN if you flash back to Stock. I know that none of my old Not so smart phones will update past the Warranty date, I suspect this might be somthing similar.
Can anyone VERIFY this? I can SEE the potential problem but my skills stop there. (for now.) Can anyone tell me how I might be able to dig deeper?
I'd be happy with a rooted ZV8, let alone broken out, at this time.
I dont think anyone has figured a way around test mode yet except flashing back to zv4.
If it doesn't boot after flashing .tot:
1. Pull Battery and replace
2. push power and down until you get option to wipe
3. press power to confirm and reboot.
you will be stuck in zv4 and any flashing forward after that will put you back in test mode but at least you will be able to use your phone like normal until someone figures this out, but from what I read it appears improbable.
Yeah not looking good. Test mode I can live with it's the other issues thats killing me.
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I would like to see this happen but i am poor lol. Well i wouldnt mind sticking around for a root for V8 i dont mind waiting its just i dont want to downgrade and loose everything on my phone. I would not mind being a beta tester either for it I would just like to root my damn phone.
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I would like to see this happen but i am poor lol. Well i wouldnt mind sticking around for a root for V8 i dont mind waiting its just i dont want to downgrade and loose everything on my phone. I would not mind being a beta tester either for it I would just like to root my damn phone.
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If you downgrade to Zv7 so you can root install cwm and eventually get to rooted Zv8 you will not lose anything on your phone if you do it correctly.
Just Flash the Zv7 Tot and use mt's AIO method, (stopping short of broken out)
if done correctly you will lose nothing.
Google LG_Esteem_root_v2_windows
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