Most stable 6.5 ROM? - XPERIA X1 ROM Development

Hi guys,
I am getting an X1 in a few days and would like to know opinions on what the most stable 6.5 ROM out there at the moment is. Also some comments about speed and usability compared to stock would be appreciated!
Hopefully others will find this info useful, too, so please keep it civil.
-Oobly

well i think the most stable would be either one of itje's or agent_47's., the ones with manila 2.1 though because the leo versions are still in beta.
one of the best customised would be NRG's. of course being the flashaholic that i am i switch between all three for every new rom thats posted

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Yeah, I know. Sorry about that, don't know how to delete the other thread.

Try....V-Lite 4.3 by mobilevu
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505214
This guy knows his kitchen, ive been using his roms since he started posting his work. I havn't had any problems regarding speed and stability

For me:
NEW V-LITE 4.3 COBALT HARDCORE EDITION FINAL (Stable)

The Energy-ROM with manila 2.1 is very stable and responsive. In my opinion the best, since speed is good for almost every program, many useful tweaks and programs included. I've tried most manila ROMs and found this one the best on all fronts. I must say I haven't tried the V-LITE COBALT yet.

Make sure you don't compare titanium with manila ROMs
And then also make a difference between manila 2.1 and 2.5
V-Lite is a very good non-manila ROM, but stayed on 23004
Valkyrie is state of the art, both with and w/o manila
Energy is eye-candy with some little bumps (video-lag) for Titanium.

Which bumps have you encountered in the Energy ROM if I may ask, haven't found one yet. Even the manila 2.5 is working smooth on most fronts except the SMS app is a little crappy, but I can work with it.

Thanks for the replies guys, keep em coming! The more opinions the better.
I see Agent_47's Valkyrie 2.9 FS has reworked OEM drivers and neo2007 3D drivers. He seems to post fixes pretty quickly in response to bug reports, too.
V-Lite also looks good... apparently stable and very functional while still looking very nice.
So many ROMs, posted so often...
oh boy! I think I am going to become a flashing addict....

@ bjornkopp: video and youtube lagging, display doesn't turn off during call (no known to me tweak works), ring sound and vibra may be off, battery eater
--> It's my current ROM nevertheless ;-)

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@ bjornkopp: video and youtube lagging, display doesn't turn off during call (no known to me tweak works), ring sound and vibra may be off, battery eater
--> It's my current ROM nevertheless ;-)
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Same for me: despite all those, i love this rom (still using the 05.08.2009 version, as this is bug free).

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Complete "Best of Roms" for xperia out yet? :P

Hi, it's just so manny posts about all Roms out there. Which one should I pick for best results? I want it to be the fastest *doh*.
anyhow, do you guys recommend me to install a new cab, since I am using the new firmware(or what's it called) that SE released earlier this year. Don't know what to call it. That one, and alot of panels and tweaks. It feels like my xperia is "too much random applications-installed" right now, and I'd like a new fresh one with everything pre-installed. No overflod of unnessesary appz.
But with all the good out there, yet released. Such as all the Panels and great appz of course.
So, which panel do you recommend and why? (Fast and with alot of pre-installed stuff, settings and tweaks..)
Thx all for a wonderful oppertunity to fix the Xperia, since SE don't want to =)
(edit: Swedish rom would be nice)
I've tried a lot of the roms on here and i'd say the current best are either:
norti's nX1i v1.02 [LiteSpeed][UC][WWE/SPA/GER][R2A] - Best lite build with no TouchFLO and good UC pack.
itje's [WWE] Touch-IT v4.0 "Landscape" RC1.1 - TouchFLO lots included in build but no UC.
However once you know how to flash your phone it's worth trying out a few and seeing which you like best.
okej, thanks for the advice! I've read a bit about flashing the phone. Just to be clear, everyting on it dissapear right? (contact and such) Maybe I can just make a backup =) (any good backup sync appz, or just the orginal SE?)
oakleaf said:
okej, thanks for the advice! I've read a bit about flashing the phone. Just to be clear, everyting on it dissapear right? (contact and such) Maybe I can just make a backup =) (any good backup sync appz, or just the orginal SE?)
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download ppcpimbackup... do a search... itll backup sms/contact/appoiintments etc
btw, what's UC?
Tried the secound one you recommended, TouchIT. Sure, it's nice but damn slow.. :/ and no tweaks!
i think that jack 2.6 the best is.... totally bug free (except the known limitation on HD camera and TF3D 2) fast, stable, battery life is ok! youtube works, footprints works... tom tom works fine.. great rom!!
itje's [WWE] Touch-IT v4.0 "Landscape" RC1.1
Nothing Better for x1 developed yet...
UC = User Customization. It's a program that automaticaly installs progams / copies files when you first boot the new rom. You can tell it what to install etc by editing the config file.
Touch-IT v4.0 B3 was one of the best TouchFLO impementations i've tried but a little slow running panels. I also tried an older version of Jacks Rom but had a few crashes and found some apps needed registering.
I prefer to use the sbp panel rather than TouchFLO so I'm now using nX1i v1.02 [LiteSpeed] which is a very lite ROM with UC that allows you to pick and choose what addtional stuff you want installing.
It's so easy to flash the rom using the SD card method its worth trying a few to see what you like. I found a few nice features on different roms then applied my favorite bits from all of them to nX1i v1.02 [LiteSpeed].
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itje's [WWE] Touch-IT v4.0 "Landscape" RC1.1
Nothing Better for x1 developed yet...
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your right and it is fast and stable
I use Jack's V2.1 Light, great base ROM to start from if you don't like Touchflo! I've kept it pretty light, installed a few tweaks and added PointUI 2 (Black Theme with a custom X1 wallpaper, starting work on an X1 theme now). Runs like a dream!
Before that i was running the base cMEX ROM, but i changed when the new firmware came out (there was no Touchflo-free version of cMEX running that firmware at the time). Also tried itje's ROMs, but they're not really my cup of tea. Very complete and stable, but not as fast as what i'm running now.
I just tried the Lite-rom, didnt like it at all. Going back to TouchIT. it's a shame that none of above recommended has Swedish as a alternative
Thx all for comments! Still looking for the ultimate one!
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I just tried the Lite-rom, didnt like it at all. Going back to TouchIT. it's a shame that none of above recommended has Swedish as a alternative
Thx all for comments! Still looking for the ultimate one!
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Have you tried any of Xperia Xion by me, there are in swedish!
I think there is no best rom.
Everyone's work is perfect.
I used some of them,I like itje's best.
Although I think itje's is perfect,I can not say it's best...
londa88 said:
i think that jack 2.6 the best is.... totally bug free (except the known limitation on HD camera and TF3D 2) fast, stable, battery life is ok! youtube works, footprints works... tom tom works fine.. great rom!!
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My opinion too. Also iGO8 works well.

Most stable & bugfree winmo 6.5 based Custom ROM?

i see that there are many 6.5 based roms around here, but which of them are more stable and most bugfree?
some includes the nk.exe (native kernel), others not yet, some seems to still have few issues and patches are coming around. some includes Manilla and one not (and I want manilla TF3D).
vote here ...
i forgot to add an option for 'others', but seems these are the main english 6.5 based roms...
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This is not fair vote, my personal opinion
As you said” some includes the nk.exe (native kernel), others not yet, some seems to still have few issues and patches are coming around. some includes Manilla and one not “ .
Of our seniors using different philosophy to cook and ROMs not identical
I suggest voting in which ROM you are using TODAY, with a list of all masters
odd poll
with some now using the nk it seems like features and graphics are more of an issue at this point.
i use energy just because i like the graphics
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after trying most of the roms out there, I think gtrab's barebone is one of the most bugfree avaliable right now.
this is in part because it's mainly a 6.5 stock rom, not many addons (yes, it has some enhancements) but the rom is nearly clean of addons so, in it's basic form it's nearly bugfree.
most of the bugs on the roms comes from the HTC manila components added.
i'm now on gtrab's xtreme 6.5 and am most impressed. i love the way the rom retain the unique xperia features - especially the dialer . the rom is fast and stable and bug free.
I have tried many roms and I will say Wild child WCX 6.5 series most stable roms, however I can't vote since it is not included in list
I am checking for a rom with Manilla TF3D, now i flashed to Valkyrie 2.1 but still not much convinced, ok it is super fast, but i get random crashes or blocks....
before with SmaBergs TouchX 10 i had to restart once every 3-4 days, now every few hours...
if i pass to a Manilla free rom, are there rhodium manilla cabs?
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I am checking for a rom with Manilla TF3D, now i flashed to Valkyrie 2.1 but still not much convinced, ok it is super fast, but i get random crashes or blocks....
before with SmaBergs TouchX 10 i had to restart once every 3-4 days, now every few hours...
if i pass to a Manilla free rom, are there rhodium manilla cabs?
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Tried NRGZ28 Standard ROM? Is 6.5 with Manila, and a very good ROM!
I tried Valkyrie 2.1, but after 2 days of using it, i was not much satisfied, random blocks with black screen, TouchFLO crashes, and other minor things. I agree that it's very fast, but not yet suitable for everyday use.
Wanted to go to EnergyROM, but the thread discuseed some unfixed bugs.
so for now, i went back to TouchX 10.1 by Smaberg, fastest and most stable 6.1 ROM i have ever used....
mcbyte_it if you don't need panels v-lite 4.0 is very good. i moved to v-lite 4.0 - so far so very good. i love the option on what to install by editing the UC.
@Kitman:
No I don't need and will never use panels, but i really want Manilla TF3D, from what i read VLite does't have manilla TouchFLO, or am i wrong ??
It does not have Manilla
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i see that there are many 6.5 based roms around here, but which of them are more stable and most bugfree?
some includes the nk.exe (native kernel), others not yet, some seems to still have few issues and patches are coming around. some includes Manilla and one not (and I want manilla TF3D).
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i forgot to add an option for 'others', but seems these are the main english 6.5 based roms...
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have you tried all the winmo 6.5 roms available? have you ever tried one of wild child's roms? if you have you would have known that wild child's roms are by far the most bug free. why start a thread based on what you have used........... i try every rom that is released and i am afraid the one's you have mentioned are far from bug free. NRG has a good rom but not without its issues. i read all the threads and try all the roms so i know whats what! only true way to gauge whats bug free and start a thread like that!
I tried all the ROM's mentionned and I went back to EnergyROM from 2009/07/03...
Most stable (for me, YOUR milleage WILL vary!)
It's fast if you tweak it a bit... and it doesn't make my (capricious?) phone go into a boot loop like Wild Child's... (Thank Zod for Boot Loader reflashing! )
I'm now waiting for a new EnergyROM based on 23004+ but I'll probably gve all the major ones a try again when the newer versions come out...
This boot loop you mention(usually is accompanied with this error "upgrade rom code error please try again"OR it will get stuck at the boot screen)...this would be due to your connection to your computer...not usually related to a ROM.....can tell you it was a bad flash....had to speak on this one...this has NEVER been reported BY ANYONE with usage of my ROMs. So before stating it was due to my work,if you had to reflash your bootloader then thats not related to my work....
Regards,
WC
malixsys said:
I tried all the ROM's mentionned and I went back to EnergyROM from 2009/07/03...
Most stable (for me, YOUR milleage WILL vary!)
It's fast if you tweak it a bit... and it doesn't make my (capricious?) phone go into a boot loop like Wild Child's... (Thank Zod for Boot Loader reflashing! )
I'm now waiting for a new EnergyROM based on 23004+ but I'll probably gve all the major ones a try again when the newer versions come out...
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The Valkyrie Firestorm 2.4 is nice and bug free.
Multiple softwares installed and no problems.
Most stable 6.5 I've tried.
Personally I think if smaberg made touchx 10 xtreme with winmo 6.5 it would be the perfect rom, touch x 10 xtreme is by far the most bug free and fastest rom on xda developers site, just a shame it's not winmo 6.5
Honestly I don't think it's fair to have such a thread, however if starting such a poll then in my opinion ALL 6.5 roms shall be included and it's up to members to vote accordingly...
My experiences with some ROMs:
1. Touch IT v12 by itje- Nice UI(Touchflo),most stable(no hangs) and fastest although some apps that comes with the ROM does not function properly.
2. Valkyrie Firestorm V2.5 by agent47- Nice UI, you can choose between touchflo or basic WM6.5, hangs at least every 3 hours but most of the apps work that comes with the ROM. eats up battery fast.
3.XTREME TITANIUM TF3D-KILLER XPERT [SEX1 R3] by gtrab - Most Xperiaish rom, stable also, most apps and panel work, eats a lot of battery also.

[ROM Request!] WinMo 6.1 with Manila 2.5 Cooked by experienced chef!

I know this has been going around for a while. The whole WinMo 6.1 with Manila 2.5 issue. And I know a lot of people have said it doesn't work. But it does. There have been some concept ROMs made, that use 6.1 with 2.5.
Would it be possible, for one of the more experienced chefs, to try and cook up a ROM that had these two together. While 6.5 is very good now, and it has grown on me a lot, WinMo 6.1 with Manila 2.5, is actually an excellent combination.
I tried outies ROM with this mix, and it was very fast. The only problems, were small bugs that needed someone experienced to fix.
We all know 6.5 is good now. Much better than it was before. But 6.1 is also still excellent. Combined with Manila 2.5, it could be an excellent mix. HTC Sense and 6.1. A great combination. Please think about it chefs. I bet you would be surprised by how many people want to use it.
*sign* i search also a 6.1 with 2.5 manila...
amen to that, I agree completely !
I second this from here to infinity.....but I doubt any chef will take the challenge
Outie's kitchen
Hi,
Outie actually posted the whole kitchen with his ROM, so I am trying to tweak it a bit, something like Mikedomain's ROM. I have got PC2USB popup and Smaberg's action screen working properly, but still struggling with some other issues. If I get it tweaked nicely I will post it and maybe the whole kitchen if people want to play with customising. I won't be able to offer support, however, although I will try. There's a good chance I can't improve it much, because I am completely new to cooking, but it's worth a try.
I won't post anything if I can't make it as good as mikedomain's.
For now I suggest trying his ROM and messing with outie's kitchen if you are brave.
-Oobly
I would only be curious to hear the answer of some serious chef....
Like y ?? .....they waste hours and hours of work on 6.5 roms that will never by any means be as good as 6.1 roms....and for what, a horrible start menu and some kinetic scrolling....if you ask me not worth it...best roms ever are pctech4u, jackx 3.x and touch x by mr.rusch if those had 2.5 on top....that would be....HOT !
darkhalf520 said:
I would only be curious to hear the answer of some serious chef....
Like y ?? .....they waste hours and hours of work on 6.5 roms that will never by any means be as good as 6.1 roms....and for what, a horrible start menu and some kinetic scrolling....if you ask me not worth it...best roms ever are pctech4u, jackx 3.x and touch x by mr.rusch if those had 2.5 on top....that would be....HOT !
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amen
i just cooked a wm6.1-rom with manila 2.5 (german) just to get the experience. I can't really understand why you guys want the old wm back...
the experience was horrible compared to all the wm6.5 roms out there. the only thing i really like in wm6.1 is the drop-down-startmenu. but.....
it is possible to modify the wm6.5 startmenu to show up in list-view (not exactly but nearly 6.1 experience).
What's the real reason you like 6.1 more than 6.5?????
I really can't get it.... ugly themes... scrolling in settings/programs without scrollbar-use etc.......
6.5 is the logical evolution of wm6.1... flashing back now from this horrible 6.1 experience to wm6.5......... never again turning back.......
second to that! there is nothing I like in 6.1, sorry ...wont ever look back
the only reason that i want 6.1 (and use it actually with manila 2.1) ist stability. i have tryed a lot of 6.5 roms and all make me crazy. freezes every day (especelly in standby and charging).
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the only reason that i want 6.1 (and use it actually with manila 2.1) ist stability. i have tryed a lot of 6.5 roms and all make me crazy. freezes every day (especelly in standby and charging).
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Like I said in that thread, I never experience standby freeze in 6.5. 6.1 is more responsive but 6.5 has better memory management IMHO.
Well, whatever the reason, people seem to want a 6.1 ROM with manila 2.5 cooked by someone with enough experience to iron out the kinks, me included. In fact I want it so badly I am trying to cook one myself (making some progress, too).
IMHO, 6.5 is slower, less responsive, and has retarded volume key and close app functionality. Some of the latest builds of 6.5 are closing the gap performance-wise and some features are better, but the app closing and volkey functionality are enough to keep me away.
Each to their own, but if all the cooks are cooking 6.5, people who want 6.1 ROMs are left unsatisfied. On that note, there are some chefs cooking 6.1 ROMs, but they all seem to be using manila 2.1. Touch X is a good example of a 6.1 ROM. Fast, stable, looks nice. And it is very popular..... If only Smaberg would come back and cook us a Leo ROM... (sigh).
Exactly as Oobly said !!
How come you guys can't see a reason why we wish for 6.1 with 2.5 manila guys ..... Seems like responsiveness and stability and SPEED are pretty neglected these days....bfff makes me angry
Hello to you all, it can be done, but the time it takes to modify some files to get it to work as it should ain't worth it. And after using 6.1 with 2.5 after a day makes memory go heywire... therefor 6.5 is better, the original ROM for touch pro 2 is the most stable sys build for the x1 but with 2.5 its somewhat slow, but the leo sys build on x1 works better, but with more bugs, so combination is hard, but i recomend the TP2 sys build, with latest LEO xip.
And back to 6.1, as i wrote it can be done quite easy, but you'll need anyone with experience to edit dll files cause it referes to some files that aint in 6.1, all this info came from a source in HTC, so i can't confirm it myself though.
wish you all the luck on this one, i would be glad to help, but without a X1 it would be to hard.
Smaberg its a pity u can't do this.....could you put a nice word for us with MrRusch ??
Oobly said:
IMHO, 6.5 is slower, less responsive, and has retarded volume key and close app functionality.
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What you are describing is 6.5.1 (not 6.5)
HTC volume and close button work the same as 6.1 on 6.5 (just take a look to the official 6.5 rom on Rhodium, or Topaz.
Thanks for your input, Smaberg and Jack!
I know at least HTCScroll_2 isn't compatible with 6.1 and this causes problems in the album and I am sure I will find more. In this case we can use an older version of album, but then you can't save pictures as footprints. It's a long road, but worth a try. I am certainly gaining respect for the experienced chefs!
Maybe official 6.5 is good enough, but I have already started down this road and I believe the performance will be better on 6.1 still. Will have to see.
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ROM seems to be usable now.. some small issues, but nothing huge so far (no hangs / manila restarts, etc.) Maybe I will post what I have done so far this evening or tomorrow if I can get it uploaded somewhere. I need to do some tweaks still....
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Oobly said:
Thanks for your input, Smaberg and Jack!
I know at least HTCScroll_2 isn't compatible with 6.1 and this causes problems in the album and I am sure I will find more. In this case we can use an older version of album, but then you can't save pictures as footprints. It's a long road, but worth a try. I am certainly gaining respect for the experienced chefs!
Maybe official 6.5 is good enough, but I have already started down this road and I believe the performance will be better on 6.1 still. Will have to see.
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ROM seems to be usable now.. some small issues, but nothing huge so far (no hangs / manila restarts, etc.) Maybe I will post what I have done so far this evening or tomorrow if I can get it uploaded somewhere. I need to do some tweaks still....
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keep us updated.....ur our hero !!
I just dont get it really guys ...even you can make wm6.1 working with the latest goodies (can't imagine how hard that would be), but in the end where do you guys go from there? wm6.1 is ended, and is no longer developed.
wm6.5 is still under development, but there are choices coming from certain branches that did prove stability and speed (build 21874 is the latest i tested of this kind). And yet it is still developing and sometimes newer build just failed.
wm6.5.1 is new gui with start button at the bottom part of the screen so this is another challenge. Kinetic scrolling is gone for whatever reason, but you can slide left and right at status bar at the top part of the screen.
I'm not a cooker and yet about to dig in some into more depth. Read a lot, pick the rom you want to flash and pm the chef what official rom he started before the work. You can always predict the result by doing the same routines - flash official rom, hard reset, flash custom rom, hard reset and always follow direction given by the chef carefully, and follow what other flasher find and tweaking bugs. This is how we develop i believe.
but still i do appreciate that some ppl still opted wm6.1, it is just the way it is i guess
Phoenix ROM
Hi all,
My 6.1Leo ROM is now up! Get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4956394#post4956394
And please read all of the first 4 posts.
-Oobly
P.S. @deepthroat, I have yet to see a 6.5 ROM that gives the same benchmark scores for graphics as a good WM6.1 ROM. Usually at least 20% less speed. I don't think our X1 devices can handle 6.5 AND manila 2.5 nicely..... yet. Maybe 6.5 will improve to the same point soon.

Stable ROM with Win 6.5.1 and Manila 2.5

So....
I have a TP2 ( RHO100 ) and I have the stock WWE rom from HTC with WM6.5 installed but now the the HD2 is out I've seen videos of it with the new Manila 2.5.
And I have fallen in love with the wdiget home screen and new fully screen weather animations. I am also very interested in the ability to have threaded SMS.
I have tried doing some searches for ROMs that contain the new manila 2.5 but I am not sure which one would be best. A lot of them seem to make their own preferential upgrades, or they removed parts to make them faster, but I am a little wary they may cut out things that I want.
Can anyone recommend a ROM that is as close to the stock as possible, whilst just upgrading to WM6.5.1 and Manila 2.5, with all the original stuff. I'd like to customise my taskbar etc myself rather than have it chosen for me...
What can you guys recommend?
That's a good question. I don't know if a total stock ROM exist with 6.5.1/3 and Manila 2.5.
Give it a try
geejayoh said:
So....
I have a TP2 ( RHO100 ) and I have the stock WWE rom from HTC with WM6.5 installed but now the the HD2 is out I've seen videos of it with the new Manila 2.5.
And I have fallen in love with the wdiget home screen and new fully screen weather animations. I am also very interested in the ability to have threaded SMS.
I have tried doing some searches for ROMs that contain the new manila 2.5 but I am not sure which one would be best. A lot of them seem to make their own preferential upgrades, or they removed parts to make them faster, but I am a little wary they may cut out things that I want.
Can anyone recommend a ROM that is as close to the stock as possible, whilst just upgrading to WM6.5.1 and Manila 2.5, with all the original stuff. I'd like to customise my taskbar etc myself rather than have it chosen for me...
What can you guys recommend?
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Im using |STABLE-FAST|ROM|Josh's New Perfect Black, Links UP!|11-13|Sense 2.1| the title say it all. his rom are amazing there fast, stable, and he would try to add anything on that you like! his v1.6 is coming out. Atm v1.5 out and a beta of v1.6 is out. What you're looking for is a rare find but if anything check out his rom im sure you would like it
geejayoh said:
So....
I have a TP2 ( RHO100 ) and I have the stock WWE rom from HTC with WM6.5 installed but now the the HD2 is out I've seen videos of it with the new Manila 2.5.
And I have fallen in love with the wdiget home screen and new fully screen weather animations. I am also very interested in the ability to have threaded SMS.
I have tried doing some searches for ROMs that contain the new manila 2.5 but I am not sure which one would be best. A lot of them seem to make their own preferential upgrades, or they removed parts to make them faster, but I am a little wary they may cut out things that I want.
Can anyone recommend a ROM that is as close to the stock as possible, whilst just upgrading to WM6.5.1 and Manila 2.5, with all the original stuff. I'd like to customise my taskbar etc myself rather than have it chosen for me...
What can you guys recommend?
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Can I also back this question, that is exactly what I am looking for.
Hi,
My experience...
I have tried many roms (energy, athineos, josh's, fusion...) and first, I think, you have to decide if you want:
- windows mobile 6.1(very old), 6.5, 6.5.1 or 6.5.3. There are separates into 2 categories (6.1 and 6.5 / 6.5.1 and 6.5.3). The most difference I have noticed is that the button "Start" is on the top left corner or at the bottom of the screen.
- manila 2.1 or 2.5. The version 2.5 is most recent but there are many bugs for the landscape mode. It doesn't work for many tabs. But it is the best of both version. The version 2.1 is working fine.
After, for all roms I have tried, every times I have some bugs. Often there are very very minor problems (example: bugs with the lock screen, freeze, slow performance...) and to solve them I just have to soft reset the phone. I think it depend of your provider, rom radio, utilization of your phone: bluetooth with headset, software you use...
You must also choose the design you prefer.
Testing is the best way to find your best rom.
Very big thinks to all chief who work hardto create these roms.
I hope it can help you and you can read my bad english;-).
Bye.
vinsyl said:
Hi,
My experience...
I have tried many roms (energy, athineos, josh's, fusion...) and first, I think, you have to decide if you want:
- windows mobile 6.1(very old), 6.5, 6.5.1 or 6.5.3. There are separates into 2 categories (6.1 and 6.5 / 6.5.1 and 6.5.3). The most difference I have noticed is that the button "Start" is on the top left corner or at the bottom of the screen.
- manila 2.1 or 2.5. The version 2.5 is most recent but there are many bugs for the landscape mode. It doesn't work for many tabs. But it is the best of both version. The version 2.1 is working fine.
After, for all roms I have tried, every times I have some bugs. Often there are very very minor problems (example: bugs with the lock screen, freeze, slow performance...) and to solve them I just have to soft reset the phone. I think it depend of your provider, rom radio, utilization of your phone: bluetooth with headset, software you use...
You must also choose the design you prefer.
Testing is the best way to find your best rom.
Very big thinks to all chief who work hardto create these roms.
I hope it can help you and you can read my bad english;-).
Bye.
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Hi Vinsyl,
Thanks for your detailed answer, you make a lot of good points.
I think I need to stop being lazy and just get on with trying them all I think !
Thanks again, and your English is great.
The best ROM ! Stable for daily use...
As my try outs, and i have tried most of the ROMs here...
You "must" try this BEST ARK AF_Rhodium ROM.
It is the best stable daily use that i am using for couple days.
The ROM kink to forum origin...
Enjoy your Rhodium Phone!
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Im using |STABLE-FAST|ROM|Josh's New Perfect Black, Links UP!|11-13|Sense 2.1| the title say it all. his rom are amazing there fast, stable, and he would try to add anything on that you like! his v1.6 is coming out. Atm v1.5 out and a beta of v1.6 is out. What you're looking for is a rare find but if anything check out his rom im sure you would like it
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Thanks man, but I guess I'm more into Manila 2.5 than any other customisations.
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vinsyl said:
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Hi,
My experience...
I have tried many roms (energy, athineos, josh's, fusion...) and first, I think, you have to decide if you want:
- windows mobile 6.1(very old), 6.5, 6.5.1 or 6.5.3. There are separates into 2 categories (6.1 and 6.5 / 6.5.1 and 6.5.3). The most difference I have noticed is that the button "Start" is on the top left corner or at the bottom of the screen.
- manila 2.1 or 2.5. The version 2.5 is most recent but there are many bugs for the landscape mode. It doesn't work for many tabs. But it is the best of both version. The version 2.1 is working fine.
After, for all roms I have tried, every times I have some bugs. Often there are very very minor problems (example: bugs with the lock screen, freeze, slow performance...) and to solve them I just have to soft reset the phone. I think it depend of your provider, rom radio, utilization of your phone: bluetooth with headset, software you use...
You must also choose the design you prefer.
Testing is the best way to find your best rom.
Very big thinks to all chief who work hardto create these roms.
I hope it can help you and you can read my bad english;-).
Bye.
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Hi Vinsyl,
Thanks for your detailed answer, you make a lot of good points.
I think I need to stop being lazy and just get on with trying them all I think !
Thanks again, and your English is great.
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Vinsyl, thanks very much yes, elab is right, you make some good points.
However, may I digress...
I have already done a lot of investigating into the differences between the builds....
- I mentioned that I want to see 6.5.1 because it's more stable and more importantly has threaded SMS, which is what I'm after more than anything.
- It's only 6.5.3 from what I can tell which has moved the start menu to those silly blobs at the bottom.
- After research I also came to the conclusion that it Manila 2.5 was heavily buggy in pre-release, especially in landscape mode..... however, having now seen a full release on the HD2 and I'm guessing working in full landscape mode with all it's own apps, I was guessing that one of the CHEF's will have had a chance to rip Manila 2.5 out of the HD2 and whack it in a TP2 rom.
So Remember, I'm not looking for a STOCK rom, that comes from HTC. I'm looking for a Stock ROM base, cooked up to WM 6.5.1 with a seasoning of Manila 2.5 and no further additives. Is there a chef willing to try something so CRAZY?!
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- I mentioned that I want to see 6.5.1 because it's more stable and more importantly has threaded SMS, which is what I'm after more than anything.
- It's only 6.5.3 from what I can tell which has moved the start menu to those silly blobs at the bottom.
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6.5 does threaded SMS. (it's the first thing I turn off though, I hate it) You will need a tweak program to enable / disable, sometimes the cook will provide something built in. (sometimes in Start -> Settings -> System menu there is a "Threaded SMS" icon, otherwise use Rhodium Tweak Tool or HD Tweak one of those will do it)
And 6.5.1 has the "silly blobs at the bottom" same as 6.5.3
If you want start menu at the top you want 6.5 (or 6.1 I suppose). Also if you are looking for STABLE you want 6.5.
6.5.1 / 6.5.3 are from leaked Microsoft BETA code and therefore aren't really designed to be stable, of course you may find they are stable for you, I used to run a 23064 (one of last 23xxx builds with start menu at top) EnergyROM and it was awesome. Also with the build numbers, a general rule is 21xxx is 6.5, 23xxx is 6.5.1 and 28xxx is 6.5.3. But there is a better post you may want to search for regarding this, goes into more detail if you are interested.
Good luck in your quest
MadBeef said:
I used to run a 23064 (one of last 23xxx builds with start menu at top) EnergyROM and it was awesome. Also with the build numbers, a general rule is 21xxx is 6.5, 23xxx is 6.5.1 and 28xxx is 6.5.3. But there is a better post you may want to search for regarding this, goes into more detail if you are interested.
Good luck in your quest
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question why did you stop using it? I am thinking of picking up EnergyROM_23081

My 2 cents to the perfect ROM

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Hi All,
Just want to say a big thanks to all the great developers out there such as Dutty, Miri, topix, energyrom, xannytech.. etc.
Without you guys I think I would have sold my HD a long time ago.
I think I have flashed my Hd almost every day or two, since I had my hands on it. As there has always been a bug or two in every rom.
I have been a long time fan of Dutty's rom. But now that its stopped at the holy grail r0, the builds have been updated. Its great to have used his roms, but its still not perfect. So recently I've started looking again at other cookers.
I've been using WM 6.5 for a long time and I don't think that will change. But recently I have tried every combination wm6.1/m2.1, wm6.5/m2.1 wm6.5/m2.5 of different cookers, and tested. To see whether I have been missing out on anything.
I've finally come to a conclusion that wm6.5/m2.1 was the most stable and smoothest rom around. That brings me to Miri's roms. I've tried the wm6.5/2.5 v18 and wm6.5/m2.1 v35.
Miri's Wm6.5/2.5 v18 was great, but like every m2.5, it is still abit slow. and since I dont like the new HTC messenger, I would lose out on the mms. Well I dont really miss mms that much, but I've been without it for 6month+. And if I try to install Opera 10 on it, my pop up menu's were all screwed up and its one of those things I couldn't accept.
So lastly I went and tried Miri's wm6.5/m2.1 v35. And I must say, I think this is the one. There are a few bugs there, but I will post the links down to fix them.
First is the Miri's Rom: //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493911
Before flashing Miri's rom there are a few things I would like to note
1. lockscreen delay that you would most likely want to fix by adding a file into your storage card.
link here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587931
2. Pagepool changer to make the rom amazing I've tried countless sizes, but I've come to a conclusion that setting my pagepool number to 0 was the most effective.
link here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323269
Now you can flash the rom
After installing, you would notice on the settings tab that the line is missing between communications and customise tabs. And the line between g-sensor would flicker when you scroll down to it.
This is the list of things I would install:
1. Autolock - install csdevctrl.6.5.cab and play with the settings to your liking.
link here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386451
2. Chinese support - Just a unicode to read asian languages,
link here //rapidshare.com/files/135293786/uhei00m-gray.cab.html
3. 2d/3d driver by Neos2007 - make wonders for games on HD and also seems to fix the line problems on the settings tab.
link here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496528
4. Gfxboost by Chainfire - This is abit complicated, it doesn't boost the graphics, it's more like it smoothens the display. So its more pleasant..
read more here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509704
5. Opera 10 beta - This is sooo much better than any other browsers. When you load a webpage, it used to show those annoying blocks that hasn't loaded. Not anymore! anyways no harm to test right? Just flash hasn't been implemented into it yet. But i dont mind..
download here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
6. HD Tweak - Im sure most ppl know this one. I just use this to change the left and right keys on the home screen. And turn off the sms sent notification. Thats about it
Just a note, although there is autolock function in HD tweak, it doesnt work that well. As soon as the backlight goes off, it doesnt come back on till you push the power button and back again.
link here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452505
Lastly: Im not a fan of the HTC task manager. So I normally turn it off by disabling the quick menu on today screen tick box. And just shortcut in programs tab to MS task manager.
Thats all I had to share
Hope you find your rom that works for you. This one just happens to work perfectly for me..
I use KWBR's rom.
I didn't choose Miri's as the log is not clear.
Energy rom is also quite impressive I would say.
Could you elaborate the better side of the Miri rom from your view?
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2. Pagepool changer to make the rom amazing I've tried countless sizes, but I've come to a conclusion that setting my pagepool number to 0 was the most effective.
link here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323269
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Page Pool to ZERO??
are you sure?
jigners said:
Page Pool to ZERO??
are you sure?
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i have read somewhere that if you change pp to 0 windows takes over the pp so it is possible and have seen a cook, cook his roms whit pp on 0
im trying to cook myself and also gonna give it a go and see what happens
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yellovv23 said:
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2. Pagepool changer to make the rom amazing I've tried countless sizes, but I've come to a conclusion that setting my pagepool number to 0 was the most effective.
link here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323269
Page Pool to ZERO??
are you sure?
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if PP is set to 0, most probably the OS will adjust according to usage...
actually now i'm looking for stable WM6.5.x with manila/Sense 2.1 (as close to stock as possible, something like wajk's blackSTONEhenge), but most of recent ROM comes with Manila/Sense 2.5, which is a bit tough on the HD...not to mention lock-ups problem, even those who has flashed custom ROMs in HD2 is having some problems...when that time comes, i'm more than happy to stick with kwbr's topix 3.2.5 (might flash to the latest version as it comes with EzInput 2.1, which i like a lot)...
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KayK said:
if PP is set to 0, most probably the OS will adjust according to usage...
actually now i'm looking for stable WM6.5.x with manila/Sense 2.1 (as close to stock as possible, something like wajk's blackSTONEhenge), but most of recent ROM comes with Manila/Sense 2.5, which is a bit tough on the HD...not to mention lock-ups problem, even those who has flashed custom ROMs in HD2 is having some problems...when that time comes, i'm more than happy to stick with kwbr's topix 3.2.5 (might flash to the latest version as it comes with EzInput 2.1, which i like a lot)...
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Lockups issue appears to have been fixed, see this thread
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As much as I appreciate your comments, this is obviously your opinion and a lot of users may agree or disagree.
I'll continue to leave this thread open to see where it goes for the time being

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