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SLOW Hero even with class 6sd?

So Im running JACxHEROSkiv1.6r2B and I have a 4gig class 6 sd card. I have the fat32 set up, ext3, and linux swap at 32.
I had a class 4 before, but hearing everyone rant and rave how fast hero runs with a class 6 I went out and bought one. However, hero still seems to be a little laggy and slow..... at least for me. I'll get the htc screen and the loading screen.. I even reverted back to superhero v2 and that was the fastest hero for me, no lag, no loading screens nothing.
But the newer hero's seem to be slow for some reason even with a class 6. Can anyone help, I absolutly love hero, just want it to be fast like how everyone says it is.
Thanks in advance...

hang your head in shame...
the speed of hero roms will vary depending on the phone itself, the way the phone is used, the settings on the phone, the way people use their phone, how they choose to set up their linux-swap size and what they set swappiness to, in short, different people get different results with hero roms, some find them fast, some find them tremendously slow, its most likely a mind over matter type deal... so finally we reach the point of all this.... stop with the why isn't my hero blazing fast threads and how do i make hero make hero faster threads. basically you have 2 options for optimizing your hero build, set it up exactly the way the first post of the thread tells you to, or you can pm the people with amazingly fast hero roms and ask them what they are doing...
wow i was a smart ass and still managed to give a half way decent answer

I did follow ALL directions, i've flashed tons of roms and experienced different things with different builds. Kind of wierd how superhero v2 seems to run faster then the new builds. Even with the echo at 60, some threads say set it to 10, etc. Followed all directions, and still have these results. When a thread says FAST, you kind of expect it. I mean gimme a break going from checking the market to your home screen you get a loading issue, c'mon. There has to be something to alter to fix it. I know im not the only person having slow issues with hero EVEN on a CLASS 6

there was a post i just read where some one set there linux-swap to 96mb and swappiness to 100 and said it ran really fast, that was the newest jacski hero rom version b i think. you could always try that, though whether or not it will suffer future slow downs remains to be seen. I haven't tried a hero rom recently (since 3.6.8.1 was released by cyanogen damn that was a while back) because of the slow downs i would get after a day or so i don't know much other than to try what others are saying works.
though with the way drizzy's new hero v1 is shaping up to look i might have to try it when he drops it. I remember trying jac's 1.4 hero, if you think the hero roms they have now have lag... but alas now i am reminiscing

I agree, his new hero rom is supposed to be the best to date, so we'll see, I just flashed over to cyans 4.0.4 since its fast. I also read about the 96mb and 100swap, but I want to see what happens in a few days with that.

cire253 said:
So Im running JACxHEROSkiv1.6r2B and I have a 4gig class 6 sd card. I have the fat32 set up, ext3, and linux swap at 32.
I had a class 4 before, but hearing everyone rant and rave how fast hero runs with a class 6 I went out and bought one. However, hero still seems to be a little laggy and slow..... at least for me. I'll get the htc screen and the loading screen.. I even reverted back to superhero v2 and that was the fastest hero for me, no lag, no loading screens nothing.
But the newer hero's seem to be slow for some reason even with a class 6. Can anyone help, I absolutly love hero, just want it to be fast like how everyone says it is.
Thanks in advance...
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I had the same issue with my 32mb swap. I changed it to 96 and saw a HUGE increase in performance. No compcache. Just swap with 60 swappiness and I hardly ever see Loading or the HTC screen.
Here is a thread that discusses this issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551643
It is among many, however almost everyone has their own opinion based on their own phone which is of course based on their own needs. The key is playing around with it and seeing what works best for you. Start with the swappiness and then try your swap partition size and see what works best for you.

Then there was a vague tweet from jac about a possible fix for bluetooth, and twisted zero is supposedly getting really close with the led's, also with the htc kernal that was made open.
It really wouldn't suprise to me to see in another month or so a hero rom that competes with stock cupcake, maybe i'm too optimistic though lol

david1171 said:
...maybe i'm too optimistic though lol
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I think so too.

Binary100100 said:
I think so too.
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well when you compare jac's 1.4 back when hero threads were getting thrashed left and right to what the hero rom's are now. there is a vast improvement. I remember when I couldn't use a hero rom for more than a few hours without having to go to a stable rom. now my friend has had a rom on his phone a few weeks and hasn't said anything to me about it running horribly so maybe one day...

david1171 said:
well when you compare jac's 1.4 back when hero threads were getting thrashed left and right to what the hero rom's are now. there is a vast improvement. I remember when I couldn't use a hero rom for more than a few hours without having to go to a stable rom. now my friend has had a rom on his phone a few weeks and hasn't said anything to me about it running horribly so maybe one day...
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I agree that the Hero roms are stable enough for daily use provided that you make certain adjustments, but in regards to the LED and bluetooth I don't think they will be perfect for a long time. The LED will hopefully come soon since Twisted reported getting them to work. But I don't understand why we don't have fully working LED's like that was announce last week. Perhaps it was an accidental fix that couldn't be recreated? Perhaps it was a fluke? Who knows. What I do know is that the LED's still need work even after it was reported to have a fix. As for bluetooth... as far as I know and read it could only be initialized by manual command lines and not from the settings app. Even IF there is a fix... will it be full bluetooth (A2DP) or just enough to pair and use a headset?
The fact that the BT and LED's for Hero builds tend to work with MT3G and not the G1 tells me that it's hardware related and not so much in code or scripts. So if fixes to the LED and BT are developed and perfected then how will the MT3G work after flashed a ROM with these patches included? Will they conflict? Will we need different ROMs for different phones? I'm not trying to be negative or pessimistic but I'm just not seeing full fixes for these issues to be ready, available and implemented this week or next. Maybe in a month or two... but that's as far as my optimisism takes me. But I hope that I'm wrong.

Fastest G1 ROM for everyday use

Hey guys,
Could anyone suggest to me the fastest, most stable ROM for my G1 that doesn't run into any issues (especially from everyday use).
I've used plenty of them, mainly sourcing off Cyanogen but I seem to always get some delays especially with my phone, so many people have told me they tried ringing me but went straight to voicemail and my phone has no missed calls or anything, just sitting idle and this is a major pain.
I'm currently on the original version waiting to upgrade, is there an official Cupcake version I can download? My calls coming in quickly are more important than themes right now.
Thanks!

Im using CSDIv1....its a FAST rom. I dont have Swap enable(Sucks battery) nor 10MB Ramhack(Like my 3D apps), and still its a really fast rom.
There is only one problem with it, and its that the Keyboard is on Spanish. But you can change it just pushing a folder to the system, and voila. If you need some asistance, just ask.

I suggest the latest MghtyMax ROM. Is the fastest and stable Hero ROM I've tested.

super d 1.8...i made the switch from Cyanogen a few weeks ago and its been 100% worth it. Super D's rom is lighting fast I promise and i had a problem with missed texts on CM's rom and have not had that problem since i switched.

dmm0816 said:
super d 1.8...i made the switch from Cyanogen a few weeks ago and its been 100% worth it. Super D's rom is lighting fast I promise and i had a problem with missed texts on CM's rom and have not had that problem since i switched.
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I keep hearing this, and as soon as my class 6 micro comes in, I think Im gonna have to try it.
Its hard to believe, as I just flashed cyanogen 4.2.14.1 ands its freakin fast. Hard to believe theres a faster one.
Guess I ll have to give it a shot. Has anyone actually tried cyanogens newest and compared it to super d 1.8? Is it really THAT much faster?

Dai323 said:
I keep hearing this, and as soon as my class 6 micro comes in, I think Im gonna have to try it.
Its hard to believe, as I just flashed cyanogen 4.2.14.1 ands its freakin fast. Hard to believe theres a faster one.
Guess I ll have to give it a shot. Has anyone actually tried cyanogens newest and compared it to super d 1.8? Is it really THAT much faster?
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i did i came from cm 4.2.14.1 and i couldnt believehow much faster it was...my weather clock widget is always right now too

@dmm0816
Nice. My new card should be here tomorrow. I ll flash tomorrow then. Hoping the higher class card will make some difference too.
Thanks for your help man.

For everyday use you want Cyanogen.
For Speed get either FastTest or SuperD. They're basically the same thing.
Hope this helps.
I suggest DarkStar theme for Cyanogen and SuperD

I use king's 2.3 hero rom, I only use hero roms anyway though, best normal rom I've tried, however is super d. although, cyanogen is very "noob friendly"

SJJTJJ said:
For everyday use you want Cyanogen.
For Speed get either FastTest or SuperD. They're basically the same thing.
Hope this helps.
I suggest DarkStar theme for Cyanogen and SuperD
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Hmm..Im curious why you say that. What makes Cyanogen more "everyday useable"? What would you actually say are the biggest differences in the 2 roms?

Really they're all apples, just different flavours. From what I've read, they all have the same bits and bites from Eclair; cyanogen's modded code (right?). I personally pick CM over everything else because the community support for CM is a larger, more discussion. Of course, this doesn't mean the other ones are inferior. You should try them all for like a day or two. Wipe before you try a new one, so you can tell which one really works best.
2.1 Roms on the other hand I think need more work. Not all the drivers work yet. I tried OpenEclair and I felt a bit handicap compared to the 1.6 Roms. Also, for me at least, it didn't feel as fast as the 1.6 Roms. Good roms but need more work.

I was running Cyonogen for some time and I was pleased but I love to experiment. For the last 2 weeks I've been testing the 2.1 ASOP roms out from King(1.5) and Enclair (1.15). Both are great builds but I prefer the customization in enclair more and both are fairly stable. I was having the issue of texts getting deleted and the Rom's just seemed like they were not as quick as I wanted them to be. I enjoyed the new layout but I was finally just frustrated with overall performance and I keep reading about the Super D build. I wiped my phone and threw it on few hours ago and WOW! It is blazing fast and very stable from what I can see so far. I've tried some apps out that were proving difficult before and just wow I am amazed. This build may be on the 1.6 based side but I am glad to have performance back over some "prettyness". I may try the 2.1 builds again but I will wait for all of the kinks to work out. So my opinion is hands down Super D ( I believe it was 1.8 v) is the best build available right when looking at overall performance and stability. I love it! Made my day!
*on a side note*
I could never get Youtube to install and work with the enclair ASOP 2.1 builds, it was very frustrating as you cannot download the app from the app store and issues installing manually via the APK.

I found AmonRa 1.6.3 to be the fastest and stable ROM, in my opinion
Rgds

I want speed, stabilitiy and normal functionality for the phone for my girlfriend. It looks like the Cyanogen is the safest bet... am I right to infer that 2.0/2.1 ROMs aren't quite up to snuff yet?

GoodRevrnd said:
I want speed, stabilitiy and normal functionality for the phone for my girlfriend. It looks like the Cyanogen is the safest bet... am I right to infer that 2.0/2.1 ROMs aren't quite up to snuff yet?
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In my experience, 1.6 will always be snappier then 2.0/2.1 builds; at least for now. Our G1s don't exactly have a huge amount of space to store bigger ROMs. Really having 2.1 isn't necessary but it does have some nice features that 1.6 doesn't have. Like ability to have multiple google accounts and facebook sync. I can't really think of anything else of the top of my head but I'm sure there are at least a few others.
One thing people haven't gotten to work on 2.1 ROMs for G1, is the video camera. Camera works though on most 2.1 ROMs now (all?). The new contacts display for 2.1 is nice but even laggier then the one used in 1.6 ROMs. Can't think of anything else, someone help!
Basically, 2.1 has a lot more STUFF in general. Whether you need this extra stuff is up to you, because STUFF needs more RAM stuff, and G1 is low in that department.

My opinion:
MghtyMax 1.9.1 is veeeery fast!!! (with Swap, SetCpu and all that stuff, of course)

I like any of the Roms from King's collection and I like Super-D verry much too. Cyanogen's rom has a larger community cause that's normally what people hear when learning about rooting and stuff. I only used Cyan when I compared Enom to Cyan and Enom's was faster and everything was great.Super-D is faster than Cyan but seems slower than Enom's, Cyan has the eclair stuff just like Super-D. But I think its up to what you like you cant let others decide cause their perception of speed is diff from yours.

Fast Test v. 2.3
Its pretty much a super d rom with the darkstar theme embeded within.
No fcs at all. I recommend it highly!!

legend221 said:
Fast Test v. 2.3
Its pretty much a super d rom with the darkstar theme embeded within.
No fcs at all. I recommend it highly!!
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I just actually read about that rom, and it seems good. What makes me wonder though, is that some people say its faster than Super D. How could it actually be faster, as this rom is more or less just Super D with a theme installed? Surely, having the theme installed would decrease performance buy a little bit, vs increase it.
But what do I know
Edit: Ok, Im stupid. as Fast Test doesnt have the Eclaire stuff, thats where a performance increase would come. **slams head on keyboard**

Super D, hands down. No rom even comes close.
And Fast Test 2.3 IS Super D, just with a theme, so unless you want that specific theme, there's no point in getting Fast Test, when Super D is available.

Yet another "which is the best" rom question but with some additions.

my sum up is the second to last paragraph if you don't want to read everything.
i need help. i'm tired and on my last end of flashing roms. i flash at least 8 times a day a different rom to try them out and see which one is the best. so i'm coming out to ask everyone.
i don't want to really make a new thread about this but i just hate having to start all over with loading apps and getting my settings all ready.
my question to you all is which rom is the fastest rom out now. pure speed and reliable. i wanted to try the overclocked ones but not feeling to comfortable with my camera not working. i also have a garbage sd card so that doesn't help. i will get a real one soon but not for now. i don't really use my camera but you know when you get caught up in the moment and say oh look. and you take out the phone and bam"oh wait. my camera doesn't work" unless i can dual boot my hero with 1.6 with is super tiny????
i have tried all the roms already but i would like to hear from the community which rom do they think is the best.
i multitask alot where i will use the navigator and listen to music i will even go on a website and answer a texts all at the same time. i know that's alot asking from the hero but it's frustating to me when i'm in the car using the navigatoin and bam it closes on me cause i have alot of apps open.
another problem i have is when i get an incoming message using handset and trying to type on the keyboard. it is just so many words behind when i am typing and i just want a good rom that works. so if you can recommend the best fastest keyboard out i don't care about vibration but i do care about the sound. that's very important to me.
i don't want to name any roms out or call them out but i really like the ereis leak from damaged 1.1v but it is a battery leak on it that prevented me from staying on that rom....
what do you think of using the 1.6 rom that is bone stock and dry and adding stuff in it????
i need help choosing the fastest keyboard with as less lag as posible. i don't care if i have to buy it or not. i don't want to use swipe yet so i don't want to put that in the equation. i would like the fastest most stable rom here that can multiask and receive text using the handset pop up with no slow down. if anyone knows about the battery drain in the eris leak damaged 1.1beta and can fix it let me know....
thanks you so much,. i love my hero. and i love all the devolopers that spend there own time making roms for us to have the best experience posible. if it wasn't for them(there's alot. you know how you are) we would be sitting om hero's that can't send or receive mms, old 1.5 rom, buggy. battery dying in 3 hours. and alot more. i use 1.5 for about 3 days so i don't know all the problems the stock rom had but i know it's alot.

dondadah88 said:
my sum up is the second to last paragraph if you don't want to read everything.
i need help. i'm tired and on my last end of flashing roms. i flash at least 8 times a day a different rom to try them out and see which one is the best. so i'm coming out to ask everyone.
i don't want to really make a new thread about this but i just hate having to start all over with loading apps and getting my settings all ready.
my question to you all is which rom is the fastest rom out now. pure speed and reliable. i wanted to try the overclocked ones but not feeling to comfortable with my camera not working. i also have a garbage sd card so that doesn't help. i will get a real one soon but not for now. i don't really use my camera but you know when you get caught up in the moment and say oh look. and you take out the phone and bam"oh wait. my camera doesn't work" unless i can dual boot my hero with 1.6 with is super tiny????
i have tried all the roms already but i would like to hear from the community which rom do they think is the best.
i multitask alot where i will use the navigator and listen to music i will even go on a website and answer a texts all at the same time. i know that's alot asking from the hero but it's frustating to me when i'm in the car using the navigatoin and bam it closes on me cause i have alot of apps open.
another problem i have is when i get an incoming message using handset and trying to type on the keyboard. it is just so many words behind when i am typing and i just want a good rom that works. so if you can recommend the best fastest keyboard out i don't care about vibration but i do care about the sound. that's very important to me.
i don't want to name any roms out or call them out but i really like the ereis leak from damaged 1.1v but it is a battery leak on it that prevented me from staying on that rom....
what do you think of using the 1.6 rom that is bone stock and dry and adding stuff in it????
i need help choosing the fastest keyboard with as less lag as posible. i don't care if i have to buy it or not. i don't want to use swipe yet so i don't want to put that in the equation. i would like the fastest most stable rom here that can multiask and receive text using the handset pop up with no slow down. if anyone knows about the battery drain in the eris leak damaged 1.1beta and can fix it let me know....
thanks you so much,. i love my hero. and i love all the devolopers that spend there own time making roms for us to have the best experience posible. if it wasn't for them(there's alot. you know how you are) we would be sitting om hero's that can't send or receive mms, old 1.5 rom, buggy. battery dying in 3 hours. and alot more. i use 1.5 for about 3 days so i don't know all the problems the stock rom had but i know it's alot.
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im running out the door but i wanted to respond to one thing you said. The AOSP 1.6 is a great rom, and you can reall customize it to your needs. Very fast. Im waiting for the 2.1 fully working AOSP, like you, i need camera. If you are looking to stay in 2.1, ive tried a few and found alyoious or whatever to be very relieable, stylish and fast.

myke66 said:
im running out the door but i wanted to respond to one thing you said. The AOSP 1.6 is a great rom, and you can reall customize it to your needs. Very fast. Im waiting for the 2.1 fully working AOSP, like you, i need camera. If you are looking to stay in 2.1, ive tried a few and found alyoious or whatever to be very relieable, stylish and fast.
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honestly if you think 1.6 aosp is the fastest rom out there and you really highly recommend it i will try it out fully. i only used it for a couple minutes when trying to get the market place apps in.
what would you say is the cons about going to 1.6 from 2.1????

dondadah88 said:
honestly if you think 1.6 aosp is the fastest rom out there and you really highly recommend it i will try it out fully. i only used it for a couple minutes when trying to get the market place apps in.
what would you say is the cons about going to 1.6 from 2.1????
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Cons? No lwp. (anyway, lwp's aren't great on our phones, kinda sluggish, amirite?) Make sure you flash the googlebits
ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5195520
googlebits: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606094

Thanks alot. i really thank you.
i don't care about live wallpaper compared to performance. i read that thread that you gave me and i have a question.
what is the difference between that 1.6 and this
unless they are the same. i will do a research on what google bits is all about....
also can i have voice navigation on 1.6 using google maps??? if not i can just use sprint nav....
question. i looked some more in that thread and saw that some stuff isn't working. i think i should try the one i have first andd see what happens right????

if you want to wait for 2.1 to come out officially, i will recommend the pancake 1.5 rom without sense. it is by far the fastest, most stable rom ive run and with autokiller set to extreme this sucker flies.

you just keep on bring more and more questions in my head.
i thought 1.5 was just completely bugged out with the problems thats why everyone lefted???
i cant find the pancake rom with no sense. i will miss it but if the performance increase is huge then i won't miss it that much. lol.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639278&highlight=pancake
enjoy! i have had zero bugs with this rom.

question. i had 1.6 in my mind and how it is the perfect rom and you popped up with 1.5 and i'm afraid to use it because bugs it came with before.
so would you recommend this over the 1.6 that is 16mb big????
and if so then which pancake would you recommend i would like to keep sense but if no sense is ALOT faster and MUCH BETTER with battery life then i will go stock....

dondadah88 said:
question. i had 1.6 in my mind and how it is the perfect rom and you popped up with 1.5 and i'm afraid to use it because bugs it came with before.
so would you recommend this over the 1.6 that is 16mb big????
and if so then which pancake would you recommend i would like to keep sense but if no sense is ALOT faster and MUCH BETTER with battery life then i will go stock....
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go with whatever you wish but ive run this rom longer than any other. i personally don't like sense at all myself so it's your choice in the long run, sense does chew up ram so remember that. there has been zero bugs that i have found and i have a ton of free ram left and great battery life. the closest ive had to the pancake rom in terms of performance is fresh 2.0d.

ok. this is what i will do. i will download pancake 1.5 no sense and keep it on my sd card.
i want to try 1.6 to get it out my head if it is good or not. if i find any bugs i will flash over to pancake. lol.
last question. is your mms good and can i use 2.1 vanilla lock screen. i really like it.
i'm so happy.
i like how you said the closes you had to your pancake is fresh 2.0d but you flashed back to pancake so i'll also put that up there but that's if i am not happy with pancake.

dondadah88 said:
ok. this is what i will do. i will download pancake 1.5 no sense and keep it on my sd card.
i want to try 1.6 to get it out my head if it is good or not. if i find any bugs i will flash over to pancake. lol.
last question. is your mms good and can i use 2.1 vanilla lock screen. i really like it.
i'm so happy.
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no vanilla lockscreen im afraid on 1.5 but there is clear ones you can get on here if you search. mms has been fine for me.

thanks man. you have helped me out a bunch. i will try 1.6 to get it out my head if it isn't good. pancake it is. i'm so happy. i wish i could rep you.

i have a question. i'm loving 1.5 performance and the battery life is great.
i'm using the sense one because the stock 1.5 was alittle bland. but the marketplace is alittle dull
so i have wondering if there is a nice 1.6 build thats very good.
i also notice that multi-touch isn't on in 1.5 unless it is the keyboard i'm using. i'm i wrong???

Custom roms are slooooooooooooooooow.....

I'm not new to flashing custom roms in the WinMo world but, I just got my Hero like 3 days ago. I have searched and read about everything here so far and from what I have read the reason for flashing custom roms is SPEED and CUSTOMIZATION.
Well, I have flashed twice and ended up re-rooting and going back stock. I'm not trying to take anything away from the developers because I know it's hard work. I did it with my old TP with WinMo for a couple of years. When I flashed my custom WinMo roms they where ALWAYS faster than any stock rom.
HOWEVER it seems to me like none of these roms for the Hero are ready for prime time yet and from what I'm reading all of the decent developers have crossed over to the Evo so the chance of us getting some decent roms in minimal at best.
So my question is should I just wait till something is released that is more stable or should I cross over as well? AGAIN I'm not trying to take anything at all away from the developers. I expected some differences coming from WinMo. I just wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way. If not, what rom are you running? Is it faster than the stock .6 rom from sprint? Does the camera work?

What ROMs did you try? I've used DamageControl and am now on Darchdroid and have had no issues on either. Both run way faster and have way better battery life than stock. Everything works. There are tons of members here that would say the same thing...

What ROMs have you tried? Any ROM with an overclocked kernel will be faster than stock. All current ROMs also have working camera.

Are you waiting until everything finishes syncing? The first 20 minutes of your ROM experience will be a little slow as it pulls down whatever info you plugged in for Google/Facebook/Twitter/etc., but once that's done your custom ROM will be smooth sailing. I've used Fresh 2.0d, 2.1.2, PureHero, and now DarchDroid 2.7 and they've all been substantially faster than stock. Especially with OC and JIT, there's a tangible difference.
I'd trying something again and let everything sync up. I've been impressed by DarchDroid, but I'm also an AOSP fan.

What roms have you tried?
I use Buufed 2.0b and it is very fast. I used FreshToast 2.1, which was also fast until I jacked with the settings. Others are also fast as well.
If you are describing the first boot after flashing a rom, that may be because dalvik-cache needs to be built...this take a few minutes to do, but it is a one-time thing (unless you move to another rom or wipe your dalvik-cache).
abadasstanker69 said:
I'm not new to flashing custom roms in the WinMo world but, I just got my Hero like 3 days ago. I have searched and read about everything here so far and from what I have read the reason for flashing custom roms is SPEED and CUSTOMIZATION.
Well, I have flashed twice and ended up re-rooting and going back stock. I'm not trying to take anything away from the developers because I know it's hard work. I did it with my old TP with WinMo for a couple of years. When I flashed my custom WinMo roms they where ALWAYS faster than any stock rom.
HOWEVER it seems to me like none of these roms for the Hero are ready for prime time yet and from what I'm reading all of the decent developers have crossed over to the Evo so the chance of us getting some decent roms in minimal at best.
So my question is should I just wait till something is released that is more stable or should I cross over as well? AGAIN I'm not trying to take anything at all away from the developers. I expected some differences coming from WinMo. I just wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way. If not, what rom are you running? Is it faster than the stock .6 rom from sprint? Does the camera work?
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Its not like the developers left along time ago. All of them pushed out a final release before they left, and it was only 2 devs.
Also, they all run smoother then stock. Have you tried damagecontrol? Or try ANY of the overclocked roms. You can get OC on any rom now with separate flashable kernels.
Darchdroid is also the most basic rom you can use, but not basic in the area of customization. Its the only rom not built on htc framework, so there is close to zero bloat and it runs extremely smooth.

abadasstanker69 said:
I'm not new to flashing custom roms in the WinMo world but, I just got my Hero like 3 days ago. I have searched and read about everything here so far and from what I have read the reason for flashing custom roms is SPEED and CUSTOMIZATION.
Well, I have flashed twice and ended up re-rooting and going back stock. I'm not trying to take anything away from the developers because I know it's hard work. I did it with my old TP with WinMo for a couple of years. When I flashed my custom WinMo roms they where ALWAYS faster than any stock rom.
HOWEVER it seems to me like none of these roms for the Hero are ready for prime time yet and from what I'm reading all of the decent developers have crossed over to the Evo so the chance of us getting some decent roms in minimal at best.
So my question is should I just wait till something is released that is more stable or should I cross over as well? AGAIN I'm not trying to take anything at all away from the developers. I expected some differences coming from WinMo. I just wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way. If not, what rom are you running? Is it faster than the stock .6 rom from sprint? Does the camera work?
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I am running Darchdroid and recommend you do too. It is faster than the most fastidious fast rom.

I don't wanna put anyone out there and I can't really remember the specific ones I tried but one that stood out was here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683746
Everyone kept saying great things about a "fresh" rom so I figured that was it. When I used it the thing ran slow, my camera didn't work, and my picture messages wouldn't come in.
I was going to use another one but, I just thought it was a relatively new phone so maybe there wasn't sufficient work done yet

thatjerk said:
I am running Darchdroid and recommend you do too. It is faster than the most fastidious fast rom.
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Yeah, I am going to agree. As far as overall speed, Darchdroid is the best. I'm also partial to Launcherpro over the included ADWLauncher. I have 7 homescreens full of stuff and it still runs fine.

Which version of Fresh did you use? I've had some issues with the earlier 2.x versions, but it's been pretty stable since 2.0d.
EDIT: FreshToast...I've ran that one for the longest time. The only time it would go slow on me is when I jacked with the settings in SetCPU.
abadasstanker69 said:
I don't wanna put anyone out there and I can't really remember the specific ones I tried but one that stood out was here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683746
Everyone kept saying great things about a "fresh" rom so I figured that was it. When I used it the thing ran slow, my camera didn't work, and my picture messages wouldn't come in.
I was going to use another one but, I just thought it was a relatively new phone so maybe there wasn't sufficient work done yet
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Check out how fast this is..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&sns=em

wow such fast responses! lol
Sorry if I stepped on any toes but, I just tried a couple and got results that where no where near the instantaneous difference you got in the WinMo world. Maybe I should have stuck with it for a while longer....
I did have a little info up on Facebook but I REFUSE to twitter!! LMAO The contacts I have are numerous so maybe that's a contributing factor. I'm not sure. I really wanted a Froyo rom but, from what I understand, it's still in Beta.
I really just want something fast and reliable. I often use my bluetooth for HOURS on end so something less harsh on the battery would also be extremely helpful.
I will try whatever suggestions you guys have. I know you have been in the Android world way longer than me. I had XDAndroid on my TP but this is a dramatic difference.

thatjerk said:
Check out how fast this is..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&sns=em
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LMAO I got RickRoll'D

abadasstanker69 said:
I don't wanna put anyone out there and I can't really remember the specific ones I tried but one that stood out was here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683746
Everyone kept saying great things about a "fresh" rom so I figured that was it. When I used it the thing ran slow, my camera didn't work, and my picture messages wouldn't come in.
I was going to use another one but, I just thought it was a relatively new phone so maybe there wasn't sufficient work done yet
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Camera works in that ROM. If you had another experience, something was done wrong.

thatjerk said:
Check out how fast this is..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&sns=em
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Well played, sir. If you want to watch a real benchmark of Freshtoast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byhykf6D6m4

illogic6 said:
Camera works in that ROM. If you had another experience, something was done wrong.
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I don't see how I could have "done it wrong" I mean it's pretty self explanatory. I opened the camera app and got a broken TV set in purple and blue on my screen. Everything else worked....just slowly. Maybe a bad download.....maybe. I don't know. But how could someone possibly flash wrong and still get it to run? That makes no sense.

abadasstanker69 said:
I don't see how I could have "done it wrong" I mean it's pretty self explanatory. I opened the camera app and got a broken TV set in purple and blue on my screen. Everything else worked....just slowly. Maybe a bad download.....maybe. I don't know. But how could someone possibly flash wrong and still get it to run? That makes no sense.
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You need to make sure you wipe in recovery before flashing a new ROM. It sounds like that could possibly be the issue.

illogic6 said:
You need to make sure you wipe in recovery before flashing a new ROM. It sounds like that could possibly be the issue.
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I never read anything about that! lol wow I feel like such a noob. Do i do that from the menu that pops up when restarting? The one I update the custom rom from?

illogic6 said:
Well played, sir. If you want to watch a real benchmark of Freshtoast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byhykf6D6m4
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that's just sexy

abadasstanker69 said:
I never read anything about that! lol wow I feel like such a noob. Do i do that from the menu that pops up when restarting? The one I update the custom rom from?
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Yes. Wipe data, dalvik-cache, and sd-ext if you have one.
Flash the custom ROM. When it loads sign into your gmail and give it 5ish minutes to synch your calendar/contacts/mail from the cloud. Once that is completed, you'll want to head to the market and grab "overclock widget" and make sure you're clocked to appropriate speeds.
From then on, the speed improvement should be obvious.

[Q] Make vogue android snappier

Hi,
I was wondering if HTC Vogue/Touch users can share some tips to make Vogue faster and snappier.
rvgsd
(Fresh Froyo - NAND.)

rvgsd said:
Hi,
I was wondering if HTC Vogue/Touch users can share some tips to make Vogue faster and snappier.
rvgsd
(Fresh Froyo - NAND.)
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odex the build, only drawback is that you cant theme it after that.
that and a light overclock are both pretty good

Thanks for the reply! I am really new here. Can you point me towards an odexing guide??

rvgsd said:
Thanks for the reply! I am really new here. Can you point me towards an odexing guide??
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forum search for odex donut

lol, make vogue android snappier? hahahahahahahahahahaha
sorry, that was a good laugh. I think thats what we have all be trying to acomplish since day 1.

incubus26jc said:
lol, make vogue android snappier? hahahahahahahahahahaha
sorry, that was a good laugh. I think thats what we have all be trying to acomplish since day 1.
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look what the cat drug in , really miss having you around jeff

thoughtlesskyle said:
look what the cat drug in , really miss having you around jeff
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i miss being around... dont miss the phone. I think ill make a rls17 for the hell of it.
What is the latest source and kernel that works the best at the moment?

incubus26jc said:
i miss being around... dont miss the phone. I think ill make a rls17 for the hell of it.
What is the latest source and kernel that works the best at the moment?
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if you want all languages i can pm you a recent compile of it (like mid November) as far as for kernels i dont know im still using a really old one, the last one dzo did of 2.6.25 before he started the new port

thoughtlesskyle said:
if you want all languages i can pm you a recent compile of it (like mid November) as far as for kernels i dont know im still using a really old one, the last one dzo did of 2.6.25 before he started the new port
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is it worth me doing? Has there been any improvements since my last release?

incubus26jc said:
is it worth me doing? Has there been any improvements since my last release?
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newer google apps is the biggest thing added since, they have been decently stable as of late too. TBH i havent even really been doing much on my vogue lately either.
i do have a theme for hero you and myn would be proud of though

Speeding up Android
If you free up some memory your vogue will be faster. I suggest uninstalling all the apps you don't use / can do without. You can also try the Fat Free build of android. I hear that it is faster.

Code+Blood said:
If you free up some memory your vogue will be faster. I suggest uninstalling all the apps you don't use / can do without. You can also try the Fat Free build of android. I hear that it is faster.
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it is mostly since it uses all the principles covered here its odex'd it has the fat cleaved from it, and via rogue tools you can overclock it

Yeah, I tried the Fat-Free build and its super fast..! DZO Fresh Froyo is already amazing, and Fat-Free froyo makes it even faster. The life that is put into this phone is unbelievable, and the support too! I remember when I used to use my vogue with wm-6.1 !

rvgsd said:
Hi,
I was wondering if HTC Vogue/Touch users can share some tips to make Vogue faster and snappier.
rvgsd
(Fresh Froyo - NAND.)
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ummm if you want a snappy android phone get rid of the vogue. not trolling here but your dealing with a 4 year old outdated phone. buy a real up to date android device. props to the devs here but im shocked people still own this device. even xda put it in legacy mode.

fixxxer2008 said:
ummm if you want a snappy android phone get rid of the vogue. not trolling here but your dealing with a 4 year old outdated phone. buy a real up to date android device. props to the devs here but im shocked people still own this device. even xda put it in legacy mode.
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some people cant upgrade from it or they will lose their plan, or they are people like me who's plans dont have upgrade eligiblity luckily i was able to track down a hero for cheap. tbh it could handle donut awesomely froyo def has some stability issues maybe gingerbread will be better

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some people cant upgrade from it or they will lose their plan, or they are people like me who's plans dont have upgrade eligiblity luckily i was able to track down a hero for cheap. tbh it could handle donut awesomely froyo def has some stability issues maybe gingerbread will be better
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im not dissing the vogue as i owned a few of them but yeah if you get the hero you will notice a huge speed increase. even more so with a evo or epic. i know people want to keep their cheap legacy plans but sooner or later you will have no choice but to upgrade and pay more. 4g will be standard someday.

fixxxer2008 said:
im not dissing the vogue as i owned a few of them but yeah if you get the hero you will notice a huge speed increase. even more so with a evo or epic. i know people want to keep their cheap legacy plans but sooner or later you will have no choice but to upgrade and pay more. 4g will be standard someday.
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i wish i could go to the evo but sadly i havent found an evo cheap enough yet

My phone is pretty snappy and stable considering it's a bit long in the tooth. I recommend the latest .32 kernel, Scooter's CM rls4c, and a mild overclock to 490 mhz. I don't keep a bunch of crapware apps and widgets on my phone and I recently trimmed down to three desktop screens.
It is my sincere hope that my carrier offers me a decent plan when I do bite the bullet and upgrade to a new android device. It's going to cost me an additional $20-30/mo to get a plan comparable to what I currently have and I really wanted a decent device with a hardware keyboard. Either the Epic or the EVO Shift will be in my pocket next...

know.patience said:
My phone is pretty snappy and stable considering it's a bit long in the tooth. I recommend the latest .32 kernel, Scooter's CM rls4c, and a mild overclock to 490 mhz. I don't keep a bunch of crapware apps and widgets on my phone and I recently trimmed down to three desktop screens.
It is my sincere hope that my carrier offers me a decent plan when I do bite the bullet and upgrade to a new android device. It's going to cost me an additional $20-30/mo to get a plan comparable to what I currently have and I really wanted a decent device with a hardware keyboard. Either the Epic or the EVO Shift will be in my pocket next...
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yea keyboards are nice but htc phones with keyboards always suffer from poor design flaws, like the touch pro and the high failure rate of that (i even had problems with mine before i sold it), the G2 and it basicly falling open when turned upside down, i love htc to death but i dont trust anything they have with a keyboard at all

incubus26jc said:
is it worth me doing? Has there been any improvements since my last release?
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The Cyanogen mod has been ported
but no, not that many changes.
Here are the kernels for 2.6.32:
http://androidhtc.git.sourceforge.n...44fac6b0542c9e4d62be3ebd5a3fb1fc4830b;hb=HEAD
And i would love it if you made another release