Hi all - my poor Kaiser has suffered the dreaded RLOD. Tried every possible fix short of a new battery... which I should get in the mail this week.
If the phone itself is bricked, what would people recommend in terms of a replacement/upgrade? I'm in Canada on Rogers so it has to be a GSM phone. Generally use it for business apps.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Matt
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Hi all - my poor Kaiser has suffered the dreaded RLOD. Tried every possible fix short of a new battery... which I should get in the mail this week.
If the phone itself is bricked, what would people recommend in terms of a replacement/upgrade? I'm in Canada on Rogers so it has to be a GSM phone. Generally use it for business apps.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Matt
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Slider keyboard, Touch Pro II or AT$T Tilt 2: Screen keyboard, Touch HD. Or wait for HTC's rumored ( and I think just a rumor, complete with " leaked " photoshopped pics) superphone, the HTC Leo.
"Tilt II" or (cheap) Kaiser
I was in the same position a couple days ago.
I decided to replace mine with another Kaiser. And I got the part to fix my dying phone as well, for a bit more. Less than $200 spent for two.
In good condition a Kaiser can be had for well under $150.
A fixer-upper can be pieced together for well under $100. (you've torn a Kaiser apart a few times? New screen, etc?) Parts are cheap and a junker to fix (Broken screen or hinges...) is almost free.
But if I were willing to have a contract, the Tilt II or a variant with number keys across the top... sure looks good. I haven't compared the size and weight, but since I already carry a tiny brick, it would be fine, I'm sure. I understand it's better in a few ways. (Audio jack, Screen resolution) and with more horsepower, the screen updates may be quicker, accelerated drivers or not!
I went with the Kaiser, but I did not know about the Tilt II until after I had purchased. Saved me some money, and now I have a backup with identical (but not as pretty) hardware.
Seems like win-win with either platform!
jc
kingmatt said:
Hi all - my poor Kaiser has suffered the dreaded RLOD. Tried every possible fix short of a new battery... which I should get in the mail this week.
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Not sure what to suggest re a replacement (and your budget will likely come into it as well) but how about detailing all the fixes you've tried - you may have missed one or two and there have been extensive posts on the topic here. It'd be much preferable, I'm sure you agree, to fix it at low or nil cost rather than having to buy a replacement.
Hey guys - first off, thanks for the suggestions above. The offerings from my carrier are weak (best right now is Touch Diamond) but I may look for an aftermarket Tilt 2.
Flying Kiwi, I would definitely be happy to get my Tilt working again - even just to squeeze a few more months out until the Hero is available here. I've read through every thread I could find about RLOD and haven't had any luck. Its actually the second time I've had the red light... the first time was about three months ago. I left the SIM and battery out overnight and the next day it came back to life... but my battery life was severely shortened after that. I could barely get 8 hours out of it before it was at 0%.
On Friday of last week it ran out of juice completely and RLOD was waiting for me in the morning. I tried leaving the battery and SIM out as before and I actually did get the amber light back at one point. I immediately plugged the charger in and hoped it would be fine like last time. Unfortunately the red light was back about 2 minutes later.
Based on the various posts on the subject, I've tried pressing buttons in a specific order, tried "jump starting" the battery, cleaned the contacts, etc... not even a hint of life. That's why I'm thinking that a new battery might be the only chance I have left. But if you know of any other methods I'd love to try!
Man, I miss my phone.....
Sounds familiar
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On Friday of last week it ran out of juice completely and RLOD was waiting for me in the morning. I tried leaving the battery and SIM out as before and I actually did get the amber light back at one point. I immediately plugged the charger in and hoped it would be fine like last time. Unfortunately the red light was back about 2 minutes later.
Based on the various posts on the subject, I've tried pressing buttons in a specific order, tried "jump starting" the battery, cleaned the contacts, etc... not even a hint of life. That's why I'm thinking that a new battery might be the only chance I have left. But if you know of any other methods I'd love to try!
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If you do have a known fully charged battery (perhaps borrowing a friends one) it'd be worth performing a hard reset. It does sound like a spot of the same trouble I briefly had a year or so ago though and I rectified it very quickly with a careful, thorough contact clean (both the spring contacts and battery terminals). I realise you've said you performed a contact clean but what did you use and how did you do it? I don't know if you're aware but it's possible for invisible film to ruin the connection and what looks like a clean connection could still be to blame... If you have a cradle charger, you could also try charging the battery in that before fitting it and perfoming a hard reset. They're cheap enough to buy and enable you to charge 2 batteries at a time (1 in the phone and 1 in the cradle bay).
No luck.... just tried to clean it again with acetone and still the red light. Twas a good thought though!!
And I've searched around for a replacement battery but no one around here has this particular phone... its not generally available up here so I bought one from eBay.
Contact cleaner is cheap enough
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No luck.... just tried to clean it again with acetone and still the red light. Twas a good thought though!!
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I wouldn't give up on that being a cause, especially given the 2 mins on charge scenario. I suggest you use the product specifically designed for such cleaning jobs, contact cleaner (and apply it with the end of a cotton bud soaked in the stuff). A few gentle rubs with this will ensure it's electrically connecting fine.
And I've searched around for a replacement battery but no one around here has this particular phone... its not generally available up here so I bought one from eBay.
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I bought a battery (and cradle charger bundle) from eBay for my Kaiser and although it works, the quality certainly wasn't up to the original one that came with the phone. It doesn't fit as well either and causes the back cover to protrude a little rather than sitting flush. Twas very cheap though
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I wouldn't give up on that being a cause, especially given the 2 mins on charge scenario.
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hehe, ok I'm not particularly patient
I will definitely leave it charging overnight and hope that it decides to spring to life. My biggest concern is that the red light stays on even if the battery out - while plugged in of course. Just makes me think the phone itself is pooched.
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I bought a battery (and cradle charger bundle) from eBay for my Kaiser and although it works, the quality certainly wasn't up to the original one that came with the phone. It doesn't fit as well either and causes the back cover to protrude a little rather than sitting flush. Twas very cheap though
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I wish I'd thought of that before ordering this new battery... although if it works I'll likely order another battery and cradle as a back up right away.
Although now that I'm looking at these Touch Pro 2s on eBay they're looking very tempting.
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hehe, ok I'm not particularly patient
I will definitely leave it charging overnight and hope that it decides to spring to life. My biggest concern is that the red light stays on even if the battery out - while plugged in of course. Just makes me think the phone itself is pooched.
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You needn't think that because the battery has to be installed (and working) for the phone to run - I'd definitely suggest you don't try charging without a battery installed again. This is because some electronic circuits which are designed to be run under load can sometimes be damaged if powed up while not loaded (PSUs inside PCs are a good example). It's worth buying a small can of specialist contact cleaner. It's cheap enough and will do the best job possible in the situation if used with some cotton buds/Q-Tips.
Although now that I'm looking at these Touch Pro 2s on eBay they're looking very tempting.
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You mustn't have got to the bit with the price in it then (nor checked whether they have full Qualcomm accelerated graphics driver support to perform optimally for an MSM72xx chipset device) Still, they do appear to be an improvement over the Kaiser if only a limited one.
I'd definitely suggest you don't try charging without a battery installed again.
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Um how do you charge a battery without it being in the phone? Seriously you have the strangest advice ever..
? get another battery and hard reset to the phone to fix the red light? Wouldn't the friends battery just show you that he needs another battery?
Dear person with broken phone. Try your new battery, Good luck..
Seems like the original battery is worn out and the phone has drained every drop. Most likely there are some capacitors or something that aren't getting charged because of the charger board not having power.. I've seen devices that work like this, there isn't enough juice to start it up and charge the battery or even power the phone properly. I'm sure there is some sort of small bios type battery on there that is drained as well.
Giving it my best shot
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Um how do you charge a battery without it being in the phone?
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I give up, how do you charge a battery without it being in the phone? It is possible to plug in the charger and power it without a battery installed however (although the phone wont boot in this state) and this may cause damage.
? get another battery and hard reset to the phone to fix the red light? Wouldn't the friends battery just show you that he needs another battery?
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It may but a hard reset may also show that some corruption in the ROM may be to blame or contributing to the problem and of course a hard reset isn't possible with a flat battery. I'm not willing to rule either out as a potential cause of the problem at this stage.
Dear person with broken phone. Try your new battery, Good luck..
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Something we agree on again ChumleyEX, see we do have alot in common you know. I even like cats too
Well damn, I can't say anything negative to someone that likes cats.
Hey guys - I appreciate all of the advice, really do.
Good to know that the red light should be on while charging with the battery out... not something I was doing for a long period, just happened while I was trying the various fixes. Hopefully the new battery comes in and works because I wouldn't be rushing to drop $700+ on a Touch Pro 2.
Oh and I like cats too.
Wanted to provide a (late) update. My Kaiser's problem was purely battery-related. I finally got a new battery today and the RLOD cleared up right away.
Not sure if it will come back or whether my battery life will be compromised, though...
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so a few of you may remember I took the plunge and bought an ebay extended battery. I'm here to report that not only do they work, they work great! I used my phone from 8 AM yesterday to about 2 AM and it still had about 20% left!!! And I was using GPS, phone calls, heavy internet browsing application installing, and more. Not to mention I just got the thing so it's probably not even broken in yet. The back is extended out a bit, but really it actually feels more solid than the standard cover. I'm 100% satisfied... for $15 shipped this is 1000000% worth it!
This is the battery I bought, it's 2000 mAh, so it needs an extended cover which this seller included with the order. I actually made a mistake and bought the P3050 version I guess it's GSM? Not sure exactly, but it didn't fit, so I emailed him and he mailed out the proper one for the Sprint CDMA version. If you email him, he should be able to help, nice guy.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2000mAh-BATTERY...Accessories?hash=item3353df7d3a#ht_2399wt_935
Just thought I'd share my success! Everyone (including myself) thought these things were garbage, but in fact this is a pretty high quality product
Pics
http://picasaweb.google.com/berardi1111/ExtendedBattery?feat=directlink
Hit or miss
For me, buying batteries on ebay has been a hit or miss experience. 50% good, 50 % crap (out of 6).
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For me, buying batteries on ebay has been a hit or miss experience. 50% good, 50 % crap (out of 6).
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I agree, but this guy did me a favor. I bought the wrong one (wrong battery cover) and he hooked me up!
Berardi,
That's a great news.
I'll get one, if I need a new battery.
My standard battery life is now much better than before. Last weekend, I used a golf rangefinder (GPS for yardage). My battery died right after I hit my 2nd shot to the 18th green.
can you take a picture of the back at a different angle?
From the picture it looked aweful... like a step and then flat on the top part
For now i've been leaving my phone charged most of the time and carrying aspare battery rather than an extended one but with the use of GPS/BT/ Internet i can hardly squeeze more than 5-6 hrs before i have to replace or charge mine...
I wish the Extended batter can "blend" in more with the phone rather than the protuding and funny looking cover ...
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Berardi,
That's a great news.
I'll get one, if I need a new battery.
My standard battery life is now much better than before. Last weekend, I used a golf rangefinder (GPS for yardage). My battery died right after I hit my 2nd shot to the 18th green.
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GPS definitely drains the battery like no other. I use my phone pretty heavily, not extremely heavy on GPS like you would with golf rangefinder, but I can't imagine you being able to drain this thing in less than a few hours. Compared to my 1500 mah Seidio, a Japanese brand battery that is supposedly a very good brand, this is a pretty large increase. I'd give it a shot I would buy from this guy if I were you, he's good about responding to emails and fixing problems. Like I said, I bought the wrong version accidentally and he fixed it for me.
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can you take a picture of the back at a different angle?
From the picture it looked aweful... like a step and then flat on the top part
For now i've been leaving my phone charged most of the time and carrying aspare battery rather than an extended one but with the use of GPS/BT/ Internet i can hardly squeeze more than 5-6 hrs before i have to replace or charge mine...
I wish the Extended batter can "blend" in more with the phone rather than the protuding and funny looking cover ...
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Yeah it does stick out about maybe 3/8 of an inch? But truthfully, it feels more solid in my hands when I'm typing and using it. I don't know if it's because the old back cover was so beat up, or if it's actually that the extra back makes it fit better in my hand, it just seems to fit better. Here I took some pics.
http://picasaweb.google.com/berardi1111/ExtendedBattery?feat=directlink
It does stick out in the battery area and not the top area and a small area not sticking out at the bottom, but it really doesn't bother me in the least. I've used mostly larger phones in the past, like the Mogul so I'm used to a larger size and prefer it actually. YMMV but I'm extremely satisfied
will it work with wm?
or is it just for android?
Holy crap that's massive!
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will it work with wm?
or is it just for android?
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I'm sure it was originally designed for Wm.
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Holy crap that's massive!
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ha ha I'd say it extends from standard width by 1/3 I don't mind it I actually prefer it lol
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will it work with wm?
or is it just for android?
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are you serious?!? everybody KNOWS this battery will specifically only work with android, if it senses WM on your phone it will begin a self destruct sequence and your phone will blow up.
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ok, sorry, just kidding. no battery is specific to an operating system to the best of my knowledge.
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are you serious?!? everybody KNOWS this battery will specifically only work with android, if it senses WM on your phone it will begin a self destruct sequence and your phone will blow up.
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ok, sorry, just kidding. no battery is specific to an operating system to the best of my knowledge.
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hahahaha thats pretty damn funny!
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are you serious?!? everybody KNOWS this battery will specifically only work with android, if it senses WM on your phone it will begin a self destruct sequence and your phone will blow up.
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Thanks for the heads up, I almost ordered one until I saw the warning. (actually it was the picture that turned me off)
I was wondering if anyone else was experiencing this also. Sometimes my milestones touch screen start goin all crazy an pushing buttons an sliding pages an pretty much making a huge mess.This has happened before, an it went normal after 4 to 5 hours later, an now its happening again. I did some research sayin somethin about the touch screen an its reaction to humidity an stuff, but i wasnt sure. So im hoping someone here knows what is up an can tell me what i have to do.
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I was wondering if anyone else was experiencing this also. Sometimes my milestones touch screen start goin all crazy an pushing buttons an sliding pages an pretty much making a huge mess.This has happened before, an it went normal after 4 to 5 hours later, an now its happening again. I did some research sayin somethin about the touch screen an its reaction to humidity an stuff, but i wasnt sure. So im hoping someone here knows what is up an can tell me what i have to do.
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Did you have your phone plugged in to a USB charger at the time? Was it the stock charger?
no, it doesnt happen jus when its chargin, it happens randomly, an no its not a stock charger, but i dont see what that would have to do with the screen goin crazy pushing everythin
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no, it doesnt happen jus when its chargin, it happens randomly, an no its not a stock charger, but i dont see what that would have to do with the screen goin crazy pushing everythin
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Well, I would suggest that you try reverting back to using the stock charger for a few days and see if that helps. Using other chargers (esp from ebay) can cause similar effects on the Milestone/Droid due to voltage variances.
ill give it a try, an let you know what happens, thing is i bought the phone alone with no stock charger, so im gonna have to check on ebay for a stock one, but thanks again
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ill give it a try, an let you know what happens, thing is i bought the phone alone with no stock charger, so im gonna have to check on ebay for a stock one, but thanks again
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Well, try buying a stock one from an authorized Motorola dealer. Every since I purchased one on ebay, I always make sure my Moto chargers come in a sealed, hard plastic, package in attempt to improve authenticity (However, I'm not sure how much that buys me).
Good luck.
I get this same issue.
Unplugged or not, on various roms from stock to motofrenzy.
sometimes the screen will just become really crazy.
If i open a webpage and just hold my finger on the screen in one place it will zoom in scroll up and down, all sorts.
I verified what was happening by downloading Multitouch visualiser 2 from the Market.
A reboot always fixes the problem
Its kinda frustrating, because i know that Moto just direct you to the place of purchase and i was not the original purchaser, so i have no chance of a warranty repair.
yeah ive tried everything, its driving me up the wall, its been like this for the last 30 hours,an i cant even use the phone, this is the worst it been, it usually goes away after 5 to 6 hours , but now its jus gone crazy, an ive restarted an removed the battery countless of times
but burko, are you using a sock wall charger or a ebay or differant brand wall charger.thanks
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Well, try buying a stock one from an authorized Motorola dealer. Every since I purchased one on ebay, I always make sure my Moto chargers come in a sealed, hard plastic, package in attempt to improve authenticity (However, I'm not sure how much that buys me).
Good luck.
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could you tell me how much the out put of volts an amps the motorola milestone wall charger is, thanks
I actually use a BlackBerry charger, as i assumed Micro-Usb would be the same for all manufactures, but as above, it does start the screen going mad, as soon as i unplug it, it stops!
Ill see if i can make it go mad without being plugged in!
Good shout Knowthenazz!
That happened with me, when the temperature degree outside is very high, I live in region the degree reach to 48degree, my phone screen goes crazy, so I think your charger make your phone very hot, so the sensitivity of your screen begin not work properly. I'm note sure, just want to share my idea.
Thanks,
well its been about 4-5 days already, an my phones touch screen still goin crazy, i thought maybe id go back, like the other times, but this time seems permanent an its extremely depressing thinkin about it cus i jus got it like a week and a half ago off a guy.ive tried countless of chargers, even my bros motorola backflip charger, an nothin. so im gonna assume its permanently gone. i would switch the digitizer but thats gonna cost money an might jus lose the entire phone, so im jus gonna throw it back on ebay an go back to my htc hero an jus wait for the milestone 2 to come out. but if anyone does find a solution please post it here. thx everyone R.I.P. MILESTONE
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could you tell me how much the out put of volts an amps the motorola milestone wall charger is, thanks
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All chargers using the micro USB spec should be the exact same voltage (and different current ratings depending on the charger, although different current values shouldn't affect your screen at all). I suspect that the voltages are very close, if not generally the same, but, the voltage may slightly fluctuate (or ripple) over time, which I believe may be causing the issue. The better quality the charger, the more constant the voltage.
If I were you I'd purchase an authentic Motorola Micro USB charger, and call it a day.
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I actually use a BlackBerry charger, as i assumed Micro-Usb would be the same for all manufactures, but as above, it does start the screen going mad, as soon as i unplug it, it stops!
Ill see if i can make it go mad without being plugged in!
Good shout Knowthenazz!
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Glad I could help!
Not sure if this is true, but, I heard that most Motorola chargers work on Blackberry units, but, the converse isn't always the case.
well its been about a week and a half an the crazy screen thing finally stopped, i used my friends motorola backflip charger, an seems like evrything is back to normal, but now the "back" button does not work, an it really is a verry important button, so im jus hopin time will fix that button too
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well its been about a week and a half an the crazy screen thing finally stopped, i used my friends motorola backflip charger, an seems like evrything is back to normal, but now the "back" button does not work, an it really is a verry important button, so im jus hopin time will fix that button too
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Glad things are returning back to normal for you with regards to the screen.
Not sure what's going on with your back button though. Hope it works itself out for you.
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Glad things are returning back to normal for you with regards to the screen.
Not sure what's going on with your back button though. Hope it works itself out for you.
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thanks for your help knowthenazz an everyone else =]
Go to a service center asap!
Dude, use your warranty. Take it to a service center.
Mine happened the same, and I decided to send it back to motorola and just got it back yesterday.
They replaced the glass screen and the frame which surrounds the glass.
It seems they removed that plastic from behind the screen on the slider, or also replaced the slider module.
I'd guess it might be a known issue for motorola, because my phone had scratches on the glass, plus a small crack on the screen ( yeah, I know, it's gorilla glass, but I'm an orc with mobiles ), the metal frame was all dented, and they replaced it anyway, when they could just said "this is misuse, it's failing because you drop it several times, go buy another one"
I already had this issue a few months before, it got better and I decided to keep on, and then it started again and got unusable, so don't get excited about it getting better, because probably will eventually start failing again.
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Dude, use your warranty. Take it to a service center.
Mine happened the same, and I decided to send it back to motorola and just got it back yesterday.
They replaced the glass screen and the frame which surrounds the glass.
It seems they removed that plastic from behind the screen on the slider, or also replaced the slider module.
I'd guess it might be a known issue for motorola, because my phone had scratches on the glass, plus a small crack on the screen ( yeah, I know, it's gorilla glass, but I'm an orc with mobiles ), the metal frame was all dented, and they replaced it anyway, when they could just said "this is misuse, it's failing because you drop it several times, go buy another one"
I already had this issue a few months before, it got better and I decided to keep on, and then it started again and got unusable, so don't get excited about it getting better, because probably will eventually start failing again.
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thing is i bought it off anothere guy, an he was a phone dealer an it was given to him as a gift from motorola, an like it had no papers or charger or service carrier, jus the phone alone straight form hong kong. an yeah couple hours later my screen went crazy again, so its on ebay atm lol, but thanks anyways
It happened with me too. Somebody told me that was cause by sweat. So i took it to service center.
started happening to me yesterday, anyone know a fix yet?
Hey guys,
Just wanted to show off my review of the Mugen Power 3600 mah battery (and battery cover) for the Xperia Play 4G. This is a helpful accessory for those of you that need the extra juice! Full review below:
Has there not been an official review allready?.. like 3 months back?
What's improved or is the difference to 'back then' ?
cant have enough reviews.
id really like an extra strong battery but it would mean i couldnt use my case (trident, which i havent received yet, but i wouldnt expect it to fit with the bigger back cover), probably couldnt even use the docking station? (which i dont have, either, until now!)
Also, I know there exists a 2600mAH battery which costs 23 euro in germany (extra back cover, too) so if thats not bad id think the extra costs for 3600mah mugen power arent worth it.
one question, though: If you open the device now and put it on the ground, does it stay on the lower side or does it topple over like normally?
I have this battery as well and the extra bulk doesn't bother me at all. Maybe the batteries are a little different as I can get a lot of life out of mine. There is one downfall for me, don't know if it's the same for others. When taking a dark, indoors picture, I get a large, left sided blur from the flash. It seems that the case does not seat all the way down around the flash, leading to some light bleeding over into the picture. Like I said, I don't know if anyone else's is like this but mine is. I'm going to attempt a fix myself even though I do have another back plate coming from Mugen.
Edit; So I got my replacement battery door in the mail today and everything works perfectly now. So in the end, I am more than happy with this battery and company. They were fast to help me out and sent me a new door, no charge. The extra battery life more than outweighs the size increase. I surf, text and emulate a lot and get about 3 days out of each charge.
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cant have enough reviews.
id really like an extra strong battery but it would mean i couldnt use my case (trident, which i havent received yet, but i wouldnt expect it to fit with the bigger back cover), probably couldnt even use the docking station? (which i dont have, either, until now!)
Also, I know there exists a 2600mAH battery which costs 23 euro in germany (extra back cover, too) so if thats not bad id think the extra costs for 3600mah mugen power arent worth it.
one question, though: If you open the device now and put it on the ground, does it stay on the lower side or does it topple over like normally?
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Hey there - I have the Trident case, it won't fit with the back cover on (but you probably knew that already). Sony Ericsson also sent me out the docking station, that doesn't work with it either, since it is a precise fit for the Xperia Play.
As for the device topple, it tends to want to topple over but the battery is heavy enough to hold it in place.
Hope I helped out!
great video mate !
Good video but too big ace already the mobile for my taste
doesit work on the verizon play
Whats the UK price? Googled it and can't find it. US = $99! Which to me is rediculous!
Hey guys, I wanted to warn you about this battery now that I've had it for a while. A little while ago, my Mugen started causing me problems. Phone running funny, lots of apps wouldn't work, lots of phone stuttering, fast drain, very hot crashes, etc.. Also started draining faster than the stock battery with no use. My phone is stock, no roms, no root. Tried a reset, no help. So I tried swapping my stock battery in and the phone runs perfect. After a couple days, swap the Mugen back in, tons of problems. Been back on the stock battery for over a week now and not one single problem.
So I've contacted Mugen 4 times since this has happened and they completely ingore me. I even contacted them on their facebook page and get the run around. I dug through their return/exchange policy and it states that despite their 6 month warranty, after 30 days, you're SOL. You first have to get an RMA which I've been unsuccessful in doing. Then pay to ship it back, pay a penalty for restocking (?), wait for 2 weeks while they "test" it to ensure it's faulty and then pay to have a new one re-shipped. If it's not faulty, you're really SOL and I'm sure they never have faulty ones.....
This was a total waste of time and money for me. Please be careful if you go this route.
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Hey guys, I wanted to warn you about this battery now that I've had it for a while. A little while ago, my Mugen started causing me problems. Phone running funny, lots of apps wouldn't work, lots of phone stuttering, fast drain, very hot crashes, etc.. Also started draining faster than the stock battery with no use. My phone is stock, no roms, no root. Tried a reset, no help. So I tried swapping my stock battery in and the phone runs perfect. After a couple days, swap the Mugen back in, tons of problems. Been back on the stock battery for over a week now and not one single problem.
So I've contacted Mugen 4 times since this has happened and they completely ingore me. I even contacted them on their facebook page and get the run around. I dug through their return/exchange policy and it states that despite their 6 month warranty, after 30 days, you're SOL. You first have to get an RMA which I've been unsuccessful in doing. Then pay to ship it back, pay a penalty for restocking (?), wait for 2 weeks while they "test" it to ensure it's faulty and then pay to have a new one re-shipped. If it's not faulty, you're really SOL and I'm sure they never have faulty ones.....
This was a total waste of time and money for me. Please be careful if you go this route.
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Sorry to hear that bro. It amazes me that it seems no one can make a decent non OEM battery (extended or stock capacity). And it seems even the "expensive" ones aren't much better.
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Does the company make cases made for the extra bulk of the door?
For $100 I would expect the case to be two layers so that the speaker output would be channeled correctly and would not allow water freely into the rest of the chamber. The microphone hole looks like it does not line up with the microphone at all! If anything, it should have been at the exact same level as the original hole with a more open tunnel to the top just like the camer/flash holes. They obviously expected you to notice the single-layer shortcomings if they didn't push the switch that would require you to turn off Safe SD so the only reason it doesn't route the speaker audio and secondary mic correctly is because they can get away with it. With the audio echoing around inside with the secondary mic, I expect horrible speakerphone performance and very little stereo seperation. With the microphone subducted, I expect terrible noise canceling. You don't have to be an engineer to see these problems!
$100?! No way.
I think a $25 Otterbox Commuter and a second original battery cover could be modified to discretely hold this with none of the other drawbacks. The Otterbox has some design issues of it's own, but I'm taking those to another thread (you'll want to saw off at least two of the clipping tabs).
hi. i got ****ed cause i got a bad tab with worst battery. now i need a new one. can any one tell me where to get one? are the ones available on ebay real ones or fakes? also i have seen here somewhere link to newpower99 battery for 8.4 but i cant find it i have tried a lot to find that link.
can some one tell me if they have replaced the battery and from where did they get it? i have found 2 links on ebay can u guys pls tell me if theses are real ones or fakes? should i get these? asking so many questions cause i have to import the battery.and once thats done i cant return or replace as i live in the greatest country of the world, PAKISTAN
help needed pls help me.
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hi. i got ****ed cause i got a bad tab with worst battery. now i need a new one. can any one tell me where to get one? are the ones available on ebay real ones or fakes? also i have seen here somewhere link to newpower99 battery for 8.4 but i cant find it i have tried a lot to find that link.
can some one tell me if they have replaced the battery and from where did they get it? i have found 2 links on ebay can u guys pls tell me if theses are real ones or fakes? should i get these? asking so many questions cause i have to import the battery.and once thats done i cant return or replace as i live in the greatest country of the world, PAKISTAN
help needed pls help me.
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I am also from pakistan and yes it's greatest
I'm sure there are a few places to get a new battery but I came across this site for replacement battery and how-to install: http://www.newpower99.com/Samsung_G...placement_Kit_p/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-10.5.htm. Have never use them so I can't comment on the quality of their products.
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I'm sure there are a few places to get a new battery but I came across this site for replacement battery and how-to install: http://www.newpower99.com/Samsung_G...placement_Kit_p/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-10.5.htm. Have never use them so I can't comment on the quality of their products.
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thats for the 10.5 variant man, i need one for Tab S 8.4
I am stuck with exactly same problem with my samsung tab S 8.4 and want battery replacement for my Tab. and i also need this battery to be shipped to pakistan.
I came across few links but none is shipping to pakistan.
There is one item at Aliexpress.com and they ship to worldwide but my own experience with aliexpress is not that good as all items are of very low quality, soo kindly if anyone comes across some good solution, help me too.
Thanks
aami.aami said:
thats for the 10.5 variant man, i need one for Tab S 8.4
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Same place 8.4 battery version: http://www.newpower99.com/Samsung_G...eplacement_Kit_p/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-8.4.htm
I also want to replace my battery cause I think its defective and there is no samsung service centre here. The price of the battery from newpower is so expensive. I dont want to take a risk. Im afraid the quality is bad. Anyone have ever bought from newpower before? Is it ok?
What about this? http://www.aliexpress.com/item/NEW-...or-samsung-galaxy-Tab-S-T700/32258214298.html
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I also want to replace my battery cause I think its defective and there is no samsung service centre here. The price of the battery from newpower is so expensive. I dont want to take a risk. Im afraid the quality is bad. Anyone have ever bought from newpower before? Is it ok?
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Just purchased one from Newpower. Seems OK - I haven't installed it yet as it is to be a standby in case it is needed. Yes it is expensive and beware - there will be import duty and tax to pay on top. I had to pay approx $28.00 more for this in the UK. Bill Kelly seems to be the owner/boss at Newpower who does the voice in their excellent video on their site and DVD provided with battery. Following my initial enquiry to express my doubts as to the quality etc he e'mailed to say that the battery comes to USA (Dallas) and is 3rd party, manufactured in Orient, and he needed my business (ordered only one battery).
Anyway the battery is marked Cameron Sine Technology - so try to see if you can buy it for considerably less from elsewhere. Where else would provide a special opening device / tool least likely to cause damage.
I noticed that the link to aliexpress indicates that the "genuine" battery was no longer available between 24 to 27 February when I checked. Send an e'mail to Bill Kelly and ask about shipment to Pakistan - it was not listed in the shipment list when you pretend to purchase for some reason.
I found 3 suppliers on eBay from Hong Kong, Wisconsin USA and Bischofswerda Germany with wildly varying prices and no doubt trustworthiness.
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eBay replacement..
Hi ya'll... As most of you been experiencing, I have been having a lot of battery issues.
The battery levels drops in big dumps... Charge takes too long ( overnight for full charge) but doesn't last more than 3hrs... Charges too quickly (less than an hour) but also dies out within 30mins. When charge gets below 25% screen starts flickering and then it continuely reboots!
Anyways I finally decided to get a new battery, I went with eBay seller "Fashcover" item as it was $30AUD shipped and it also had all the tools required (actually had a lot more than needed). So after 2 weeks I finally received it, it only takes 10-15mins to replace the battery.
Pretty much all the markings are similar,the electric connecting wires are of different color combinations & it's 1-2mm smaller than OEM in width!
So far I've been able to use it for 4hrs straight, still have 30% remaining... Atleast now the battery slowly goes down instead of the jumps! But still battery life isn't anywhere near iPad minis!
Battery doesn't last long on 100% charge, it drops to 99% within a minute or 2 of disconnecting from charger..
You guys with the 8.4" seem to have quite a few problem compared to the 10.5" version, like display quality and now battery issues, or is it just a lot more people with the 8.4" or something.
And as far as i have read, after charge the battery dropping from 100% to 99% when the charger is unplugged or shortly after is normal so dont worry.
Below is a battery recalibration guide, for some of you it sounds like the battery is really faulty and needs replacing, it`s a shame you have to pay for it when it`s still in warranty.
John.
You can calibrate the battery like this before you decide to buy a new one
Fully charge the battery with the phone on and when the phone is fully charged, unplug the charger and turn it off.
When your phone is off, plug it into the charger and let it charge to 100% again. The green LED light will indicate when this is done.
Next unplug the charger, turn on your phone and set the option to ensure that your screen doesn’t turn off, if you have this option. Then reconnect to the charger and wait for it to charge again to 100%.
Once charged to 100%, unplug the charger again and do not charge until the smartphone turns itself off after reaching a 0% battery level. Once off, fully charge it again and it should work properly. The screen setting can put back to normal again (meaning turn off after a certain amount of time).
phones with oled displays should not show static images for a long time as it can cause burn-in
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Keify said:
Hi ya'll... As most of you been experiencing, I have been having a lot of battery issues.
The battery levels drops in big dumps... Charge takes too long ( overnight for full charge) but doesn't last more than 3hrs... Charges too quickly (less than an hour) but also dies out within 30mins. When charge gets below 25% screen starts flickering and then it continuely reboots!
Anyways I finally decided to get a new battery, I went with eBay seller "Fashcover" item as it was $30AUD shipped and it also had all the tools required (actually had a lot more than needed). So after 2 weeks I finally received it, it only takes 10-15mins to replace the battery.
Pretty much all the markings are similar,the electric connecting wires are of different color combinations & it's 1-2mm smaller than OEM in width!
So far I've been able to use it for 4hrs straight, still have 30% remaining... Atleast now the battery slowly goes down instead of the jumps! But still battery life isn't anywhere near iPad minis!
Battery doesn't last long on 100% charge, it drops to 99% within a minute or 2 of disconnecting from charger..
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this is the issue with almost all the tabs. people dont really accept it but this issue is there. there might be few exceptions but overall, the battery life SUCKS steel balls covered with goo and horse **** with toppings of slime and pig ****.
i have had enough issues with this ****ty tablet. i so loved this tablet that i spent almost twice its price on just repairs. but it was not meant for me may be. i had to sell it in scrap.
i have already warned people about its battery. there is a reason people get iPads when they want tablets. i have never owned one, but i have used one. and yes Android tablets, especially Samsung tablets SUCK!
my advice would be to sell it off ASAP, and instead get something else. you will face more issues, i can promise you that at least in battery life. rest its your choice.
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You guys with the 8.4" seem to have quite a few problem compared to the 10.5" version, like display quality and now battery issues, or is it just a lot more people with the 8.4" or something.
And as far as i have read, after charge the battery dropping from 100% to 99% when the charger is unplugged or shortly after is normal so dont worry.
Below is a battery recalibration guide, for some of you it sounds like the battery is really faulty and needs replacing, it`s a shame you have to pay for it when it`s still in warranty.
John.
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its not that there are many people with 8.4, it might be, because of its smaller size but its not entirely the case. the truth is the battery in this tablet used by samsung is of worst quality even when compared to their lower end tablets. this was supposed to be Samsung's FLAGSHIP tablet but they ruined it with battery.
& yes 100 to 99 when u plug it out, thats understandable, but how can anyone explain a brand new, out of the box tablet, go from 99% to 63% in JUST SETTING UP THE TABLET WHICH TAKES LIKE LITERALLY 3 MINUTES???
"THAT'S" the issue people were facing.
and this is the reason you will not see samsung marketing it anymore now. even on their youtube channel. even samsung knows it was a full flop.
i personally know, 3 people other than myself who got this tablet. and all, including myself, had this issue. and NO we all didnt get these from same seller or even same country. and they were of different batch.
I always wondered if company's send b-grade products to country's with not the best consumer protection for faulty goods.
And 99% to 63% in 3 minutes is not normal, but it is possible that the tablet just needs the battery calibrating and there are a few guides out there, if the battery is still bad after that then return it or get it repaired.
John.
aami.aami said:
this is the issue with almost all the tabs. people dont really accept it but this issue is there. there might be few exceptions but overall, the battery life SUCKS steel balls covered with goo and horse **** with toppings of slime and pig ****.
i have had enough issues with this ****ty tablet. i so loved this tablet that i spent almost twice its price on just repairs. but it was not meant for me may be. i had to sell it in scrap.
i have already warned people about its battery. there is a reason people get iPads when they want tablets. i have never owned one, but i have used one. and yes Android tablets, especially Samsung tablets SUCK!
my advice would be to sell it off ASAP, and instead get something else. you will face more issues, i can promise you that at least in battery life. rest its your choice.
its not that there are many people with 8.4, it might be, because of its smaller size but its not entirely the case. the truth is the battery in this tablet used by samsung is of worst quality even when compared to their lower end tablets. this was supposed to be Samsung's FLAGSHIP tablet but they ruined it with battery.
& yes 100 to 99 when u plug it out, thats understandable, but how can anyone explain a brand new, out of the box tablet, go from 99% to 63% in JUST SETTING UP THE TABLET WHICH TAKES LIKE LITERALLY 3 MINUTES???
"THAT'S" the issue people were facing.
and this is the reason you will not see samsung marketing it anymore now. even on their youtube channel. even samsung knows it was a full flop.
i personally know, 3 people other than myself who got this tablet. and all, including myself, had this issue. and NO we all didnt get these from same seller or even same country. and they were of different batch.
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I got one off ebay. It was not as wide as the stock battery but it plugged up and I have had no issues since! Getting around 6-7 hours SOT with web browsing and watching videos. With games, I get about 4 hours sot. Hope this helps.
is anyone having this issue with the 10.5? i have had two 8.4's one white 16gb and one 32gb bronze and they seem to have the same issue
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is anyone having this issue with the 10.5? i have had two 8.4's one white 16gb and one 32gb bronze and they seem to have the same issue
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No issues with battery on 10.5 inch. Not sure why. only the 8.4 models seem affected by battery.
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When it`s $70/£45for an T800 10.5" battery with tool-kit, or i can get a splurge for removing the back cover for £1 and a replacement battery for £8.40, which would you choose.
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Hello everyone,
I've enjoyed this watch even if the battery life sucks since the beginning!! especially coming from the Samsung Gear S3, which has never ever lasted less than a day (24 hours).
Since the last Android Wear 2.0 update, the battery life is even worse, although I doubt it's actually linked, probably just a coincidence, but my watch hasn't make it through the afternoon for few weeks now. Barely 6 hours (with EVERYTHING disable, even bluetooth, in Airplane mode).
As of today, the watch will turn on and turn off few seconds later regardless the battery %.
Lg answered nicely that they would take a look at it, and ask $20 for the diagnostic if I don't want them to process the fix!!! And I read online that the battery replacement is $60. I would rather throw it away...
Anyway, I have 2 questions :
Does someone knows where to source this damn battery (BL-S7)?? Out of stock on ebay
Did someone try to fit a Watch Urbane battery (BL-S6) which is 570mAh instead of 430mAh? Or anyone knows this battery size? (I know the connector is different but at this point it's not the biggest issue )
That could help many people meeting issues with this watch... (I'm done with LG!!)
Thanks!!
Ok, I found the answer to my second question, and obviously bigger capacity = battery battery
the BL-S6 (Urban 2nd G) is about 31x27
the BL-S7 (Sport Watch) is about 28x27
So I'm still interested to know where to buy the BL-S7.
Thanks,
Assuming I can find a BL-S7 battery, how easy is it to strip the watch down to change?
My watch is so random with shutdowns and % battery left remaining I am thinking it is all down to the battery after over 18 months daily usage/charging.
Also interested in this.
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Assuming I can find a BL-S7 battery, how easy is it to strip the watch down to change?
My watch is so random with shutdowns and % battery left remaining I am thinking it is all down to the battery after over 18 months daily usage/charging.
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Disassembly is fairly easy if you take your time and disconnect the connection points. Nothing is really glued in place aside from the bottom cover and the battery to the rest of the chassis. I was able to get to the battery within 20 minutes.
I was also able to find a battery on ebay. We'll see how assembly goes when it's delivered.
That is great, do you have the link to the battery on ebay?
Did you also have the same issues with random shutdowns, not being able to restart unless on the charger etc?
Keep us posted!
Thanks.
I confirm that disassembling the watch is pretty easy and quick, the only thing is you can say goodbye to the waterproof!
@sirdizzle415, does it come with the sealing? Please keep us updated if it does fix the reboot issue and if can even share the link :angel:
I only found 1 used....
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I confirm that disassembling the watch is pretty easy and quick, the only thing is you can say goodbye to the waterproof!
@sirdizzle415, does it come with the sealing? Please keep us updated if it does fix the reboot issue and if can even share the link :angel:
I only found 1 used....
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I wouldn't trust it to be waterproof anymore, but I'm mostly ok with that. If this watch survives a little while longer with a used $25 battery, I'd call that a win over buying another $300+ watch.
I should be getting the new battery tomorrow, should be pretty quick to put it back together. We'll see what happens.
FYI, My new battery is still in route, so haven't had a chance to test it. It is available brand new on ebay though... If anyone wants to give it a try, the link is here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Wa...1e1230fc8:m:mALL_k1FrV1tgtB_vyDJXTg:rk:1:pf:0
Make sure to select the LG-S7 battery for the Watch Sport.
Successful install of the battery! Watch no longer shuts off, and doesn't need to be on the charger to turn on.
I did try to carefully take my old battery apart. Multiple sources mentioned that it can be repaired by soldering a zero ohm link/resistor between two points. I could not identify them on the BL-S7 battery, so I probably won't be doing that.
All in all, it was a $25 dollar battery for me, so not a bad price to pay to extend the life.
I just ordered the one from ebay! That's great it's back in stock!! @sirdizzle415 Yours was a used one?? how did you glue back the back cover?
I know the watch won't be waterproof anymore, but I'm ok with that too.
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I just ordered the one from ebay! That's great it's back in stock!! @sirdizzle415 Yours was a used one?? how did you glue back the back cover?
I know the watch won't be waterproof anymore, but I'm ok with that too.
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My existing seal was mostly intact. The back cover also has tabs that snap it back in place.
Placed my order for a new battery.
There is simply nothing else to replace the Sport with LTE currently...unless you like apples.
I just received the new battery!
Results are not so great so far, the watch does stay alive and do not reboot/ shut down randomly anymore.
But after an hour using it to update app, hard reset it, I lost 40%... I didn't charge the battery yet, so I don't want to be pessimistic (yet) but I think my main issue wasn't the battery.
The watch seems too warm to me, probably something wrong with the hardware, other than the battery.
Plus, damn the watch is so slow with the new version of Android wear, so laggy!!
But true there is no better android watch anyway, which is a shame...
It seems that replacing the battery actually fixed the issue! I'm getting now a day and half of battery with only the bluetooth and NFC activated...
The watch is still slow from time to time, I have to tap the screen several time before it actually wakes up.
But for 20 bucks I guess it was the right move.
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I just received the new battery!
Results are not so great so far, the watch does stay alive and do not reboot/ shut down randomly anymore.
But after an hour using it to update app, hard reset it, I lost 40%... I didn't charge the battery yet, so I don't want to be pessimistic (yet) but I think my main issue wasn't the battery.
The watch seems too warm to me, probably something wrong with the hardware, other than the battery.
Plus, damn the watch is so slow with the new version of Android wear, so laggy!!
But true there is no better android watch anyway, which is a shame...
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I think right around this day, I received a Wear OS update that really hurt the battery life... it's been better since, but I definitely remember a day recently when I got an update and battery life was terrible for me.
Just replaced my battery.
Straight forward job, managed to keep the seal in place too.
Watch started up with what little charge was in the new battery, 16%, which is promising, it wouldn't before, and also all the apps /configuration haven't been lost either.
The only disappointment is that the new battery is not actually new.
Okay it may not be used, but it was dated late 2016, actually slightly older than the battery it replaced, early 2017.
See how I get on with it now....
A new battery is a must!
I'm getting a constant 7am until 11pm, 16 hours off cradle, with 50% still remaining, and that is with LTE on all day, including everything else too!
The combination of new battery, and latest firmware updates has just transformed the usage and battery life.
It is a must upgrade!
Hello, I'm from EU, is there any possibility to get new battery now? I looked on eBay and it looks like all are sold out.. :/
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Just after keep watching.
Ebay seller when this thread first started sold out, but got more stock later.
Worth pursueing still very happy after changing my battery.