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3600 mAh battery for XPERA - too good to be true?

Wow I'm ordering one regardless.... Worth a shot....
Here are the actual manufacturer's specs: http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.info.../es109514_es120302495377/Products/HLI-BST41XL

holdout said:
Wow I'm ordering one regardless.... Worth a shot....
Here are the actual manufacturer's specs: http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.info.../es109514_es120302495377/Products/HLI-BST41XL
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It's real but the battery cover sucks and is prone to breakage.
The battery reading on the Xperia is also innacurate too so it's impossible to tell when your X1 is out of batteries because it lacks the battery drivers for the battery.
Here is my review:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514461

This kind of battery has been talked before on the forum.
In my opinion what sounds too good to be true IS too good to be true.
And as a fellow xda user said...I wouldn't trust a company making products for someone else, who doesn't even know how to SPELL that company's name (see photo : Sony Erisson)
Plus...you may risk f..ing up your phone if the battery overheats or smth else...
BUT, that's just my take on things
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WOW...while I was writing my post.... there were 3 others that posted meanwhile ) LOL
Anyway big thumbs up for poetryrocksalot with that review.
Btw...my X1 lasts about 6 hrs in mp3 playback (as opposed to 8hrs in that review). PLUS my P1 also lasts 8hrs in playback (with 1120mAh)

oh wait..... how ugly... the battery has a larger physical size and so a replacement rear case is provided to accommodate.
how very very ugly..... lol
@poetryrocksalot: what?!!?!?! I searched the forum for "3600" before starting this thread. This forum's search sucks....

stormlv said:
This kind of battery has been talked before on the forum.
In my opinion what sounds too good to be true IS too good to be true.
And as a fellow xda user said...I wouldn't trust a company making products for someone else, who doesn't even know how to SPELL that company's name (see photo : Sony Erisson)
Plus...you may risk f..ing up your phone if the battery overheats or smth else...
BUT, that's just my take on things
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mugen battery is a very professional company, their products are as exactly as reliable as the OEM product of Sony Ericsson.
holdout said:
oh wait..... how ugly... the battery has a larger physical size and so a replacement rear case is provided to accommodate.
how very very ugly..... lol
@poetryrocksalot: what?!!?!?! I searched the forum for "3600" before starting this thread. This forum's search sucks....
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You didn't search the accessories forum.
I suggest you talking to me now and asking questions before you order.

nah i'm not gonna order. instead i asked them if they are planning on releasing an enhanced life battery for the toshiba tg01 hahaha. but if they can't make better cell/electrolyte density, and have to increase the physical size instead, then forget it!

@poetryrocksalot : I know who Mungen is but as you wrote yourself, everything about the packaging says otherwise. I wasn't trying to mislead or give weird advice...but why would I buy something that's presented in that fashion?

holdout said:
nah i'm not gonna order. instead i asked them if they are planning on releasing an enhanced life battery for the toshiba tg01 hahaha. but if they can't make better cell/electrolyte density, and have to increase the physical size instead, then forget it!
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It looks like the Toshiba has an internal battery just like the iPhone.
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@poetryrocksalot : I know who Mungen is but as you wrote yourself, everything about the packaging says otherwise. I wasn't trying to mislead or give weird advice...but why would I buy something that's presented in that fashion?
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I praise the battery for lasting way longer than I expected. And with a battery with this kind of long lasting charge, I can tell that the battery is not very likely to leak or explode. Otherwise you know the battery will have a problem if it does the opposite.

I used a Mugen Battery in my old Axim x50v years ago, worked real nice, Mugen seems to be a company that knows what they're doing.
Now that I think about it, I might actually order the 1800mAh-battery...

cmdkeen said:
I used a Mugen Battery in my old Axim x50v years ago, worked real nice, Mugen seems to be a company that knows what they're doing.
Now that I think about it, I might actually order the 1800mAh-battery...
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would there 1800mah battery be ok? im tempted with one now

I'd think so, though I really don't know, haven't bought one for the X1 yet...
As for the x50v, I was happy with the Mugen-battery that time...

snowy_gti said:
would there 1800mah battery be ok? im tempted with one now
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It will last longer, but not very long. You can't rely on an compacted/standard battery.

Recommended replacement for Kaiser?

Hi all - my poor Kaiser has suffered the dreaded RLOD. Tried every possible fix short of a new battery... which I should get in the mail this week.
If the phone itself is bricked, what would people recommend in terms of a replacement/upgrade? I'm in Canada on Rogers so it has to be a GSM phone. Generally use it for business apps.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Matt

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Hi all - my poor Kaiser has suffered the dreaded RLOD. Tried every possible fix short of a new battery... which I should get in the mail this week.
If the phone itself is bricked, what would people recommend in terms of a replacement/upgrade? I'm in Canada on Rogers so it has to be a GSM phone. Generally use it for business apps.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Matt
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Slider keyboard, Touch Pro II or AT$T Tilt 2: Screen keyboard, Touch HD. Or wait for HTC's rumored ( and I think just a rumor, complete with " leaked " photoshopped pics) superphone, the HTC Leo.

"Tilt II" or (cheap) Kaiser
I was in the same position a couple days ago.
I decided to replace mine with another Kaiser. And I got the part to fix my dying phone as well, for a bit more. Less than $200 spent for two.
In good condition a Kaiser can be had for well under $150.
A fixer-upper can be pieced together for well under $100. (you've torn a Kaiser apart a few times? New screen, etc?) Parts are cheap and a junker to fix (Broken screen or hinges...) is almost free.
But if I were willing to have a contract, the Tilt II or a variant with number keys across the top... sure looks good. I haven't compared the size and weight, but since I already carry a tiny brick, it would be fine, I'm sure. I understand it's better in a few ways. (Audio jack, Screen resolution) and with more horsepower, the screen updates may be quicker, accelerated drivers or not!
I went with the Kaiser, but I did not know about the Tilt II until after I had purchased. Saved me some money, and now I have a backup with identical (but not as pretty) hardware.
Seems like win-win with either platform!
jc

kingmatt said:
Hi all - my poor Kaiser has suffered the dreaded RLOD. Tried every possible fix short of a new battery... which I should get in the mail this week.
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Not sure what to suggest re a replacement (and your budget will likely come into it as well) but how about detailing all the fixes you've tried - you may have missed one or two and there have been extensive posts on the topic here. It'd be much preferable, I'm sure you agree, to fix it at low or nil cost rather than having to buy a replacement.

Hey guys - first off, thanks for the suggestions above. The offerings from my carrier are weak (best right now is Touch Diamond) but I may look for an aftermarket Tilt 2.
Flying Kiwi, I would definitely be happy to get my Tilt working again - even just to squeeze a few more months out until the Hero is available here. I've read through every thread I could find about RLOD and haven't had any luck. Its actually the second time I've had the red light... the first time was about three months ago. I left the SIM and battery out overnight and the next day it came back to life... but my battery life was severely shortened after that. I could barely get 8 hours out of it before it was at 0%.
On Friday of last week it ran out of juice completely and RLOD was waiting for me in the morning. I tried leaving the battery and SIM out as before and I actually did get the amber light back at one point. I immediately plugged the charger in and hoped it would be fine like last time. Unfortunately the red light was back about 2 minutes later.
Based on the various posts on the subject, I've tried pressing buttons in a specific order, tried "jump starting" the battery, cleaned the contacts, etc... not even a hint of life. That's why I'm thinking that a new battery might be the only chance I have left. But if you know of any other methods I'd love to try!
Man, I miss my phone.....

Sounds familiar
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On Friday of last week it ran out of juice completely and RLOD was waiting for me in the morning. I tried leaving the battery and SIM out as before and I actually did get the amber light back at one point. I immediately plugged the charger in and hoped it would be fine like last time. Unfortunately the red light was back about 2 minutes later.
Based on the various posts on the subject, I've tried pressing buttons in a specific order, tried "jump starting" the battery, cleaned the contacts, etc... not even a hint of life. That's why I'm thinking that a new battery might be the only chance I have left. But if you know of any other methods I'd love to try!
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If you do have a known fully charged battery (perhaps borrowing a friends one) it'd be worth performing a hard reset. It does sound like a spot of the same trouble I briefly had a year or so ago though and I rectified it very quickly with a careful, thorough contact clean (both the spring contacts and battery terminals). I realise you've said you performed a contact clean but what did you use and how did you do it? I don't know if you're aware but it's possible for invisible film to ruin the connection and what looks like a clean connection could still be to blame... If you have a cradle charger, you could also try charging the battery in that before fitting it and perfoming a hard reset. They're cheap enough to buy and enable you to charge 2 batteries at a time (1 in the phone and 1 in the cradle bay).

No luck.... just tried to clean it again with acetone and still the red light. Twas a good thought though!!
And I've searched around for a replacement battery but no one around here has this particular phone... its not generally available up here so I bought one from eBay.

Contact cleaner is cheap enough
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No luck.... just tried to clean it again with acetone and still the red light. Twas a good thought though!!
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I wouldn't give up on that being a cause, especially given the 2 mins on charge scenario. I suggest you use the product specifically designed for such cleaning jobs, contact cleaner (and apply it with the end of a cotton bud soaked in the stuff). A few gentle rubs with this will ensure it's electrically connecting fine.
And I've searched around for a replacement battery but no one around here has this particular phone... its not generally available up here so I bought one from eBay.
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I bought a battery (and cradle charger bundle) from eBay for my Kaiser and although it works, the quality certainly wasn't up to the original one that came with the phone. It doesn't fit as well either and causes the back cover to protrude a little rather than sitting flush. Twas very cheap though

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I wouldn't give up on that being a cause, especially given the 2 mins on charge scenario.
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hehe, ok I'm not particularly patient
I will definitely leave it charging overnight and hope that it decides to spring to life. My biggest concern is that the red light stays on even if the battery out - while plugged in of course. Just makes me think the phone itself is pooched.
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I bought a battery (and cradle charger bundle) from eBay for my Kaiser and although it works, the quality certainly wasn't up to the original one that came with the phone. It doesn't fit as well either and causes the back cover to protrude a little rather than sitting flush. Twas very cheap though
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I wish I'd thought of that before ordering this new battery... although if it works I'll likely order another battery and cradle as a back up right away.
Although now that I'm looking at these Touch Pro 2s on eBay they're looking very tempting.

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hehe, ok I'm not particularly patient
I will definitely leave it charging overnight and hope that it decides to spring to life. My biggest concern is that the red light stays on even if the battery out - while plugged in of course. Just makes me think the phone itself is pooched.
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You needn't think that because the battery has to be installed (and working) for the phone to run - I'd definitely suggest you don't try charging without a battery installed again. This is because some electronic circuits which are designed to be run under load can sometimes be damaged if powed up while not loaded (PSUs inside PCs are a good example). It's worth buying a small can of specialist contact cleaner. It's cheap enough and will do the best job possible in the situation if used with some cotton buds/Q-Tips.
Although now that I'm looking at these Touch Pro 2s on eBay they're looking very tempting.
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You mustn't have got to the bit with the price in it then (nor checked whether they have full Qualcomm accelerated graphics driver support to perform optimally for an MSM72xx chipset device) Still, they do appear to be an improvement over the Kaiser if only a limited one.

I'd definitely suggest you don't try charging without a battery installed again.
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Um how do you charge a battery without it being in the phone? Seriously you have the strangest advice ever..
? get another battery and hard reset to the phone to fix the red light? Wouldn't the friends battery just show you that he needs another battery?
Dear person with broken phone. Try your new battery, Good luck..
Seems like the original battery is worn out and the phone has drained every drop. Most likely there are some capacitors or something that aren't getting charged because of the charger board not having power.. I've seen devices that work like this, there isn't enough juice to start it up and charge the battery or even power the phone properly. I'm sure there is some sort of small bios type battery on there that is drained as well.

Giving it my best shot
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Um how do you charge a battery without it being in the phone?
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I give up, how do you charge a battery without it being in the phone? It is possible to plug in the charger and power it without a battery installed however (although the phone wont boot in this state) and this may cause damage.
? get another battery and hard reset to the phone to fix the red light? Wouldn't the friends battery just show you that he needs another battery?
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It may but a hard reset may also show that some corruption in the ROM may be to blame or contributing to the problem and of course a hard reset isn't possible with a flat battery. I'm not willing to rule either out as a potential cause of the problem at this stage.
Dear person with broken phone. Try your new battery, Good luck..
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Something we agree on again ChumleyEX, see we do have alot in common you know. I even like cats too

Well damn, I can't say anything negative to someone that likes cats.

Hey guys - I appreciate all of the advice, really do.
Good to know that the red light should be on while charging with the battery out... not something I was doing for a long period, just happened while I was trying the various fixes. Hopefully the new battery comes in and works because I wouldn't be rushing to drop $700+ on a Touch Pro 2.
Oh and I like cats too.

Wanted to provide a (late) update. My Kaiser's problem was purely battery-related. I finally got a new battery today and the RLOD cleared up right away.
Not sure if it will come back or whether my battery life will be compromised, though...

extended battery for £14.98 + post

Hi guys i have seen a few different posts about the extended battery with the lager cover and came across this site i dont know if it has already been posted already because i cant find it so if double post to this site sorry if not may be of interest
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/products.asp?partno=BATHTCHD2EX&model=
i have never ordered from this site but for a battery with nearly 2x the power storage for £14.98 + post seems a pretty good deal to me will be Pre Ordering and will post a mini review of the battery once I have had it going for a day or 2

Nice find. I'm sure a lot of people would be interested in this. Any idea what the battery cover is made of? I'm spoilt by the metal cover already.

The official HTC extended battery is downright ugly. Though if you don't care about the aesthetic look of your phone, having 2200mAh does sound good.

digimaz said:
Nice find. I'm sure a lot of people would be interested in this. Any idea what the battery cover is made of? I'm spoilt by the metal cover already.
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am not too sure if its metal like the original or something different but as soon as i know ill update in the post

why cant they bring out extended battery that is normal size??? lol

i'd like to see a "mega" battery with a stepped design that goes all the way to the bottom, and has 6000mah. for trips, camping, etc. add a solar panel to it even better.

I'll be waiting closely for the review on this battery. Keep us all posted!

the official htc battery 2200 mah at price of 49 usd, this one is only 14 pounds, it is maybe unusable, isnt it?

yea - 2200mAH would be an option - my HD2 drains the battery too fast - less then 1 day the battery keeps my HD2 on life,...
GreeT`S

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the official htc battery 2200 mah at price of 49 usd, this one is only 14 pounds, it is maybe unusable, isnt it?
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What official HTC HD2 extended battery? Can't see one in the accessory shop.

eriche said:
yea - 2200mAH would be an option - my HD2 drains the battery too fast - less then 1 day the battery keeps my HD2 on life,...
GreeT`S
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Less than one day is about average for most smartphones under normal use. Same with the Hermes, Kaiser, iPhone, etc.

well has anyone tried this yet, can someone please upload pics, im quite interested in this !! i think i could live with it if it was a few mm thicker

Has anyone seen this before?
There is an short article (in german language) about the battery cover and extended battery over here

mox123 said:
well has anyone tried this yet, can someone please upload pics, im quite interested in this !! i think i could live with it if it was a few mm thicker
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its not out yet I have pre-ordered one and received a confirmation e-mail of the pre-order but no shipping date but will receive a e-mail to confirm the date it will be shipped out but will post a review once I receive it

are there any news?
The original Battery gives up to fast.
Need more poWer

still waiting for it to be in-stock still taking preorders atm

nitrate said:
..battery cover and extended battery
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This is really nice. I would definitely go for this official battery once its out there. No matter what size my HD2 will have afterwards the cover is definetely an eye catcher on the top.

Or Spend an extra fiver and get a cradle with it, able to charge both phone and spare battery. Not Bad value for £19.99
I can't post links (new member) but it's on the same website. Here is a screencap of the web link.
I'm ordering this at the end of the month so will post about it soon.
EDIT:- Could a MOD please take the weblink restriction off me please. Thanks

Triphazard said:
Or Spend an extra fiver and get a cradle with it, able to charge both phone and spare battery. Not Bad value for £19.99
I can't post links (new member) but it's on the same website. Here is a screencap of the web link.
I'm ordering this at the end of the month so will post about it soon.
EDIT:- Could a MOD please take the weblink restriction off me please. Thanks
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But the whole point is that if you are out and about you don't have access to a cradle! And if you are using your HD2 in the car for satnav, it still drains slightly as most chargers do not supply enough power to run the program and recharge the machine. Hence the bigger battery is very useful. Also, I do not want to be regularly taking the back off to replace the battery so a spare is not for me. The phone is just not designed for it, unlike my cameras which make it easy to swap batteries.
I do think that the fold out stand on the HTC big battery is a piece of ridiculous style over function. How long before that breaks, and who is likely to use it - the phone is a handheld, after all. I have never thought - "oh i wish i could prop this up on something on my desk".

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I do think that the fold out stand on the HTC big battery is a piece of ridiculous style over function. How long before that breaks, and who is likely to use it - the phone is a handheld, after all. I have never thought - "oh i wish i could prop this up on something on my desk".
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I think you could argue that it is function rather than style. AT worst, function AND style. Definitely not style over function.
I for one think this feature would be great when travelling on a train/plane and you want to watch a tv program or movie on the handset.

3300mAh Battery by Mugen Power

Hello fellow XDA peeps...
This just popped up on my Google Realtime Homepage
(which is, ofcourse, set to search for "Nexus S" results )
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/google/google-samsung-nexus-s/mugen-power-3300mah-extended-battery-for-google-samsung-nexus-s-with-battery-door.html
Yes, it's pretty expensive, would need a different battery door (read: no NFC), and probably adds quite some weight..
but - it won't run out on you that easy
On a separate note - does any one have tips for a good replacement/swap battery that I could buy?

abhilashraj said:
Hello fellow XDA peeps...
This just popped up on my Google Realtime Homepage
(which is, ofcourse, set to search for "Nexus S" results )
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/google/google-samsung-nexus-s/mugen-power-3300mah-extended-battery-for-google-samsung-nexus-s-with-battery-door.html
Yes, it's pretty expensive, would need a different battery door (read: no NFC), and probably adds quite some weight..
but - it won't run out on you that easy
On a separate note - does any one have tips for a good replacement/swap battery that I could buy?
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ooooo!!! Mugen is here !!!!! FINALLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
already running to ordering

$99.95 wowww :O im assuming that this battery will add massive bulk

Nice.... I will get it in a few weeks. I want to read some reviews first.

Just got confirmation from Mugen Power, they are sending me the battery for review! They are in Hong Kong so should arrive in a couple of days and will follow up with video review.
"This is Mugen Power Thanks for your message!
Yes, we are interested in you making a review for our batts for iPhone and Google Nexus S."

Ploone said:
Just got confirmation from Mugen Power, they are sending me the battery for review! They are in Hong Kong so should arrive in a couple of days and will follow up with video review.
"This is Mugen Power Thanks for your message!
Yes, we are interested in you making a review for our batts for iPhone and Google Nexus S."
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Dang lol. You're on a roll, must be nice getting all these accessories for free Enjoy.

zephiK said:
Dang lol. You're on a roll, must be nice getting all these accessories for free Enjoy.
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It is! I hope you guys do not hate me but instead see the benefits of the upcoming review! I'm anxious to see how long battery life will be, hopefully the extra weight/bulk won't be bothersome.

Ploone said:
It is! I hope you guys do not hate me but instead see the benefits of the upcoming review! I'm anxious to see how long battery life will be, hopefully the extra weight/bulk won't be bothersome.
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wont fit the case mate case thats for sure! this battery would probably be INSANE, considering with stock battery i can last one and a half day without charging.
one of the things that id like to see is the bulk comparison between the stock battery and mugen battery on the phone

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wont fit the case mate case thats for sure! this battery would probably be INSANE, considering with stock battery i can last one and a half day without charging.
one of the things that id like to see is the bulk comparison between the stock battery and mugen battery on the phone
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Yeah for sure, I want to compare battery life on both (obviously ) - bulk on both - time of charging taken for both - usability on both - if it's really necessary in the end, to be honest, I'm fine with a phone that gets me through 1 day, since I can just charge at night.
However I could see myself using something like this on a road trip where I'd be using phone nonstop or perhaps to tether to my MacBook.
Suggestions are welcomed

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Yeah for sure, I want to compare battery life on both (obviously ) - bulk on both - time of charging taken for both - usability on both - if it's really necessary in the end, to be honest, I'm fine with a phone that gets me through 1 day, since I can just charge at night.
However I could see myself using something like this on a road trip where I'd be using phone nonstop or perhaps to tether to my MacBook.
Suggestions are welcomed
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lol yeah. same here, i end the day with ~36% maybe? and im like. ugh whatever, im just gonna charge it. not worth risking it haha

zephiK said:
lol yeah. same here, i end the day with ~36% maybe? and im like. ugh whatever, im just gonna charge it. not worth risking it haha
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so true! I think most people generally follow that same rule, if you can get through 1 day on heavy usage, then battery life will be acceptable, anything short of that is where you begin to hate your phone since you have to carry charger/extra batteries lol

Ploone said:
so true! I think most people generally follow that same rule, if you can get through 1 day on heavy usage, then battery life will be acceptable, anything short of that is where you begin to hate your phone since you have to carry charger/extra batteries lol
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lol there was a coat on engadget listed for ~$700.. it heats up via USB and u can use that USB to charge your phone and stuff like that. its cool but i dont think its worth it

zephiK said:
lol there was a coat on engadget listed for ~$700.. it heats up via USB and u can use that USB to charge your phone and stuff like that. its cool but i dont think its worth it
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hah, gonna try to search for that! just a novelty item, unnecessary but cool
when are you gonna become moderator here? you seem to be everywhere on the Nexus S threads!

Ploone said:
hah, gonna try to search for that! just a novelty item, unnecessary but cool
when are you gonna become moderator here? you seem to be everywhere on the Nexus S threads!
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not interested in being a moderator. just too much time on my hands so i post here.. haha
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/04/columbia-omni-heat-circuit-breaker-softshell-electric-heated-j/ and here it is.. you can try and see if they'd let you make a review video lmao.. probably wont work!
While we're on the topic of batteries, they both can be rejuvenated via microUSB. Thoughtfully, Columbia includes a single wall adapter with two USB ports, as well as two USB charging plugs. That means that a single wall socket can charge both packs up, and yeah, it'll charge your Nexus One and Garmin PND if you ask it to. Another killer addition is the inclusion of worldwide power sockets; if you're the type who jets off to Switzerland or France to catch some fresh powder, your charger will come prepared. A nice touch, indeed. Furthermore, one of the internal batteries has a USB port that can be used to charge any USB-enabled smartphone or PMP so long as you supply the cable, which is certainly helpful for those on the slopes with a dying iPod touch.
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zephiK said:
not interested in being a moderator. just too much time on my hands so i post here.. haha
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/04/columbia-omni-heat-circuit-breaker-softshell-electric-heated-j/ and here it is.. you can try and see if they'd let you make a review video lmao.. probably wont work!
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Cool thank you! Looks stylish too, didn't know it was from a big name manufacturer I doubt they'll let me review it as well, big name companies don't care about little reviewers

Ploone said:
Cool thank you! Looks stylish too, didn't know it was from a big name manufacturer I doubt they'll let me review it as well, big name companies don't care about little reviewers
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haha it was a joke. and yeah its pretty good, just don't think its justifiable to spend $700+ on a coat just to charge my gadgets

zephiK said:
haha it was a joke. and yeah its pretty good, just don't think its justifiable to spend $700+ on a coat just to charge my gadgets
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yeah i assumed Please tell me your thoughts on the Samsung Vibrant and where I can buy one used!
Sent from my iPhone 4 via Safari.

Ploone said:
yeah i assumed Please tell me your thoughts on the Samsung Vibrant and where I can buy one used!
Sent from my iPhone 4 via Safari.
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most likely eBay or Craigslist.
I was pretty fond of it but didn't like the development that was going on around there. All the ROMs were based off internal Samsung Froyo leaks and development was limited because Samsung took forever to release Froyo (kernels were closed-sourced, only kernel available was the I9000 and vibrant kernels based off I9000 kernels were awful battery life). This leaded me to getting a Nexus S and i don't regret it. Only thing I really miss are the video codecs, at the moment 720p mkv play fine but no audio is being outputted.

zephiK said:
most likely eBay or Craigslist.
I was pretty fond of it but didn't like the development that was going on around there. All the ROMs were based off internal Samsung Froyo leaks and development was limited because Samsung took forever to release Froyo (kernels were closed-sourced, only kernel available was the I9000 and vibrant kernels based off I9000 kernels were awful battery life). This leaded me to getting a Nexus S and i don't regret it. Only thing I really miss are the video codecs, at the moment 720p mkv play fine but no audio is being outputted.
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Oh ok, well the Nexus S is my first android phone so i've had no experience with others and if i could find others for 200-300$ used i wouldn't mind buying to compare, thx though!

For whoever is interested...
"Hi Gianpy!
Just placed an order with two batteries for you: one for 3300mAh and the other one is stock sized 1600mAh.
You will get confirmation letters on your email address when they will be shipped."
They are sending me the 1600mAh battery as well, which I think is 100 mAh more than our original battery. Will compare that as well.

[Q] Fake battery?

Hey,
I purchased a battery on Ebay for like 8$.
Shipped from Germany and claims to be genuine.
My tests:
Weight- Old genuine battery 33 grams, New battery 35 grams.
The stickers probably weigh a little bit so the battery supposed to weigh even less than 33.
Voltage- Old is about 4.078V at 100% charge, New is about 4.123V at 100% charge.
I don't really see a huge improvment in battery life although my old one 3.5 year old one.. Yet it's not worse for sure..
The old one has to be genuine since I got it with my device from a big cell phone provider store.
I uploaded pictures of them both. My old one (with stickers on it on the first image) and the new one (with the "original" sticker).
Thank you.
PS: scanning the QR on the old one gives "GH43-03441A+EB575152VU".
Scanning the new ones QR gives its serial number instead.

German quality should be good.
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DerRomtester said:
German quality should be good.
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"Should be".. But how is it in my case?
The seller also sells these batteries from Spain too.. So I dont know how it's done and how "German" are they..
Anyhow they are made in Korea.. So it's doesn't really matters.
Do the states and looks seem ok?

i've already had 3 batteries, the stock battery, then a polarcell and now a Anker, and as far as i can see i need to recharge every evening, so i can't say the autonomy is improving!
However, since i run CM rom, i feel that the battery consumption is huge, whenever i browse the internet while on 3g!

qu4nt1n said:
i've already had 3 batteries, the stock battery, then a polarcell and now a Anker, and as far as i can see i need to recharge every evening, so i can't say the autonomy is improving!
However, since i run CM rom, i feel that the battery consumption is huge, whenever i browse the internet while on 3g!
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Hey,
Thanks for the comment and trying to help.
But TBH I didn't really get the point in your words and how it answers any of the questions.

Hey,
The one thing that's really throwing me off here is in the 3rd to last picture, which shows the top of the battery - 3 small grooves instead of 2.
To compare and see whether there is any variation I did a check with both my S3 batteries and they're identical at the top. I can't get hold of my mother's Galaxy S right now so I can't compare how her batteries look (one was bought recently and the other was from 2010).
However I'm thinking that a genuine battery would look identical at the top as well.
Hope that helps, but someone with a better knowledge of these batteries will be able to tell you more.
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Hi there,
I'm in New Zealand and my battery looks exactly like your original, made in china etc.
and has the 3 patches on the bottom edge.
your new battery looks close enough to me, it looks good, it fits the phone and it works.
the question I see is for $8 does it matter if its a fake?
(not really helpful in identifying a fake, just my opinion)

toby_lost said:
Hi there,
it fits the phone and it works.
the question I see is for $8 does it matter if its a fake?
(not really helpful in identifying a fake, just my opinion)
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well it's going to matter, if the battery ends up exploding while your phone is in your pocket.
@-MaoR-
Concerning my previous post, i was merely elaborating on what you said:
I don't really see a huge improvment in battery life although my old one 3.5 year old one.. Yet it's not worse for sure..
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i've had my share of batteries, and they are all the same as far as battery life in real conditions is concerned!
The interesting part in your pictures is in fact the manufacturing date! Since it reads that it was manufactured in 2014, maybe the differences come from a manufacturing process that has changed (improved?) over time. At the very least you could consider yourself lucky that they did not ship you a 2010 battery, because i don't think batteries do age well.

Soryuu said:
Hey,
The one thing that's really throwing me off here is in the 3rd to last picture, which shows the top of the battery - 3 small grooves instead of 2.
To compare and see whether there is any variation I did a check with both my S3 batteries and they're identical at the top. I can't get hold of my mother's Galaxy S right now so I can't compare how her batteries look (one was bought recently and the other was from 2010).
However I'm thinking that a genuine battery would look identical at the top as well.
Hope that helps, but someone with a better knowledge of these batteries will be able to tell you more.
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Hey mate,
Did you mean "the buttom" insted of "the top"?
Because if you are talking about the picture with the buttom of the batterires where you can see 2 patches on one and 3 on the other, then it's the buttom of the battery.
The one with 3 patches is the original one and the one with 2 is the new one.
Thanks for your comment.
toby_lost said:
Hi there,
I'm in New Zealand and my battery looks exactly like your original, made in china etc.
and has the 3 patches on the bottom edge.
your new battery looks close enough to me, it looks good, it fits the phone and it works.
the question I see is for $8 does it matter if its a fake?
(not really helpful in identifying a fake, just my opinion)
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Yes my original has 3 patches.
Well.. That's really hard to tell fakes today..
What year is your battery?
Thank you
qu4nt1n said:
well it's going to matter, if the battery ends up exploding while your phone is in your pocket.
@-MaoR-
Concerning my previous post, i was merely elaborating on what you said:
i've had my share of batteries, and they are all the same as far as battery life in real conditions is concerned!
The interesting part in your pictures is in fact the manufacturing date! Since it reads that it was manufactured in 2014, maybe the differences come from a manufacturing process that has changed (improved?) over time. At the very least you could consider yourself lucky that they did not ship you a 2010 battery, because i don't think batteries do age well.
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That's what I thought, that the proccess might have changed or something.. Maybe just different factories make different looking batteries (small changes)..
Who knows?
I dont believe it's going to explode or anything.. Unless it ain't as good of a fake inside of the battery..
Thanks again

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well it's going to matter, if the battery ends up exploding while your phone is in your pocket.
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you raise a good point, $8 or $800 pocket explosions are bad.
I had not even considered that happening :silly:
Originally Posted by -MaoR-
What year is your battery?
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mine is 03/2011
cheers.

Mine is from 06/2010:
By the way check out what happened to this unlucky brod, that tried to save a couple of bucks on her battery:
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In fact considering that most of us do sleep with our phones next to our head, maybe she could consider herself..... rather lucky after all
source: http://http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2359281/Exploding-Samsung-Galaxy-phone-leaves-teenager-degree-burns-smelling-like-burnt-pig.html

toby_lost said:
you raise a good point, $8 or $800 pocket explosions are bad.
I had not even considered that happening :silly:
mine is 03/2011
cheers.
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qu4nt1n said:
Mine is from 06/2010:
By the way check out what happened to this unlucky brod, that tried to save a couple of bucks on her battery:
p://[/IMG]
In fact considering that most of us do sleep with our phones next to our head, maybe she could consider herself..... rather lucky after all
source: http://http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2359281/Exploding-Samsung-Galaxy-phone-leaves-teenager-degree-burns-smelling-like-burnt-pig.html
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Why is your battery so worn out? lol
And about the poor brod, fakes come in all kinds of shapes and qualities.. Who knows what kind of battery she bought..
Plus I dont think batteriess just tend to explode for no reason.. Extra heat would be a good sign for a risk of explosion.. As long as the battery is cool as the original and works as the original, I don't see any reason why it would do any damage.
I just want to find out if the battery is real cuz it's interesting to me. I wont throw it away if it isn't. It works just fine and cool.
Thanks

-MaoR- said:
Why is your battery so worn out? lol
And about the poor brod, fakes come in all kinds of shapes and qualities.. Who knows what kind of battery she bought..
Plus I dont think batteriess just tend to explode for no reason.. Extra heat would be a good sign for a risk of explosion.. As long as the battery is cool as the original and works as the original, I don't see any reason why it would do any damage.
I just want to find out if the battery is real cuz it's interesting to me. I wont throw it away if it isn't. It works just fine and cool.
Thanks
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Why don't you simply ask the vendor to attach the guaranty of Samsung to the package. This is the only way you will know for sure if it is the real deal.
As far as i am concerned for things like that i always go for the real deal (i.e avoid Chinese products at all costs) even if it means paying an extra buck, because you know i don't have no spare legs!

qu4nt1n said:
Why don't you simply ask the vendor to attach the guaranty of Samsung to the package. This is the only way you will know for sure if it is the real deal.
As far as i am concerned for things like that i always go for the real deal (i.e avoid Chinese products at all costs) even if it means paying an extra buck, because you know i don't have no spare legs!
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I dont know.. I think that if Ebay sellers had any papers considering the battery they would add it.. I dont think they have any..
And all products are made in china.. Doesn't matter how much you pay for them.. You can't avoid it.
Again, batteries dont explode without a warning and genuine ones are not safe from exploding either..