Wireless Tether for root users - Is there a How-T0? - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I don't claim to know a whole lot... but I'm generally good with most things. I can not understand how to use this program - and it appears to be super user friendly.
I have root, I have the app, I have wifi, no 3G.
I searched "tether" and did not see a how to for this app. Can someone put me in my place, but do so after the post the steps to tether using my G1.
Thank you, and happy ranting (after helping of course)
Calling Supreme

Did you watch the video on his website? http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/

I did. I dont understand why in the video he didnt just download from the market.
When i start to tether, my laptop sees my phone but wont connect to it.
Obviously i have no security settings.... i was curious if its just b/c i have edge.

s15274n said:
I did. I dont understand why in the video he didnt just download from the market.
When i start to tether, my laptop sees my phone but wont connect to it.
Obviously i have no security settings.... i was curious if its just b/c i have edge.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well one, Google pulled all tethering apps from the market cause of pressure from T-Mobile. Two restart your laptop, usually fixes my Mac.

I registered just to post this.
I'm not sure what isn't working, but it's not because of Edge. I'm on an Edge network and, although slower then molasses going uphill in January, it does work.

Related

USB tether w/o Root. PDAnet for Android Available now!

Hey everyone, PDAnet is now available for android!
http://junefabrics.com/android/index.php
PdaNet does NOT require root access or hacking your phone's firmware in order to work. It is just a regular Android application that works on all Android phones as-is. Currently this initial version supports USB tethering on the T-Mobile G1 phone. Tethering is secure and will also charge your phone at the same time. Your phone can either connect to 3G data or WiFi.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It works perfectly, and root access is not required.
Enjoy!
Good find! Works best with Opera browser (other browsers such as IE and Firefox, won't display pictures for some reason...) Has some connectivity issues when using longer than 5 minutes (yes, I have enable usb bugging enabled and stay alive while connected via usb) All and all, a good program for your laptop without draining your G1 or when the REAL internet goes out. Good find! Thanks! Also, incredibly simple to use!!!
EXE installer? WTF?! How does it work? Does the program require something on the computer-end too?
I'm Linux user, so I can't use it?
Yes, it seems to be only compatible with windows. Since you're in linux, you may try running it through WINE to see what happens.
andonnguyen said:
Yes, it seems to be only compatible with windows. Since you're in linux, you may try running it through WINE to see what happens.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you experience the pictures not loading problem also while using IE or firefox?
this doesn't really seem to work yet
I was able to install it without much trouble and the initial connection looked promising (well, some pages came up anyway).
It was basically impossible to connect to Speedtest.net however and Speakeasy only rated my connection at 287/283 kbps at best (the G1 was on WiFi). I tested it again with the G1 on 3G and got a 409/330 kbps (doesn't that seem weird that it would rate better on 3G?) but then it seemed to stop connecting somehow and I had to restart the program and reestablish the connection on the PC. After a few more minutes it happened again. I would call this basically not useful at the moment, but I hope they can work the bugs out and get some decent speed out of it.
For reference, using Tether WiFi to connect to the G1 over 3G Speakeasy rated the connection at 699/316 kbps. And in my experience it's stable/consistent.
As a disclaimer, this was on my work laptop which has some pretty hefty encryption software installed. While this may be the problem, I didn't have any trouble connecting initially (multiple times).
Additional:
Their "reviews" section is just "customer testimonials", as my honest yet critical assessment of the app's inability to perform as intended was NOT posted and they didn't even bother to drop me an email to try to sort out the problem. I hope they can improve on the app, but they're quickly losing my respect and interest.
I just got this. I dl it to my sd card, connect phone to pc w usb, ran exe through windows. Installed program automatically onto phone. Windows asks to install driver for g1 and it does the work from there.
It seems to work ok, the first few tries on my desktop it would disconnect after a few minutes, restarted phone and its been better but still only seems to stay connected for about 20 min, which should be ample time to do alittle websurfing without getting mad about disconnects.
well they might not have replied because they are aware of the problem, and they clearly state that this is beta software. if you look at the known issues the first one is about the connection dropping and having to reconnect.
once they work out the bugs this software will be pretty useful because of how easy it is to use.
if only i could plug the g1 into the 360 would save me $100...or if i could share the connection with my windows media desktop(i use it as a media server for my xbox and its not even close to a internet connection).
i tried to connect it but it does the network doesnt have sufficient MTU settings. xbox live requires a minimum MTU setting of 1364.
darn.
ill be watching for updates though, should be useful once fully operational.
i've been using mine for a while now...no problems once i turn off the wifi switch on my laptop...recently when i plug it in tho, it says PDAnet is expiring soon...is this supposed to be a paid app?
This app is gay... It was pretty good at first... but once the guy updated to r1.5... its been acting gay... it would come up with random blockings... it blocked www.google.com... wtf?... and wikipedia... yahoo answers... so I just got root and installed WiFi Tether for Root users... works way better and doesnt have blocks...
USB tether 4.2.6
This is supposed to be plug and play. A lot of people have said it's great. I have not been so fortunate. Anyway, could someone give me directions on how to use this. 1. plug in phone via USB. 2. settings/wireless settings/ internet tether (on). 3. Go to PC and click on G1Tether click connect. For me this does not work. Help.
This application is a fine hold-over for people who are too stupid to get root, but it is a VERY VERY poor imitation of tethering.
1) A real tethering solution will NOT require proprietary crap to be installed on the CLIENT.
2) Wired or Wireless tether for root users *IS* a *TRUE* plug-it-in-and-it-works solution. Run the program on the phone, plug in the wire, and you're done. No weird nonsense to be installed on the computer.

new super easy tether app

OK, so tethering your laptop and G1 device isn’t entirely new, but in the past the processes have required root access, or have just been plain messy. However, help is at hand in the form of PDAnet 3G tethering application by June Fabrics (who partners with Palm). This program allows users to use their mobile internet on their G1 as a modem for their laptop.
First and foremost, this little application does not require root access to work. Second, it is free. Currently in BETA stages, the application seems to still run flawlessly according to numerous reports around the internet. In the future, the final version will likely become a ‘paid application’, but if it works well, we think it will prove rather successful.
Of course there is a downside. Using your G1 as a modem for your laptop is probably in direct conflict with your terms and conditions and excessive usage will easily get you a warning and potentially chucked off the mobile interweb. You have been warned.
linkhttp://www.junefabrics.com/android/
Thanks, but I already posted about this a few days ago here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495329
After playing with it for a while, I found that it disconnects frequently, but I guess it's good for people that want to tether and don't have root.
I actually prefer PDANet's USB tethering to the WiFi tether. You don't have to worry or deal with "securing" the connection. It seems faster (although that could be just me) - and frankly, I keep the phone plugged in to my laptop while using wifi tether anyways, since you basically have to have a connection.
The only ****ty part is that you need the PDANet software on your laptop, so you can't just give the connection to friends, etc.
But hey, that's why it's awesome to have both options.
Also, when doing the wifi tether, I always get the "hover your mouse over for 2 seconds to load this image" on all the damn images, it always shows compressed crap... with PDANet it loads fully.
Sweeeeeet!!!... Can say good bye cable company!!!
mine never disconnects, it works great, and for me its ether this or dial up!
Very unreliable
I've found PDANet to be unreliable to the point of uselessness. Constantly drops the connection and runs very slowly when it works. Not a solution at all.

Mobile network sharing app

Hey guys, longtime reader. I was wondering if there was an app that i could DL that would give me the funtionality of the Hero's Mobile network sharing settings? I have searched far and wide and have not seemed to find a solution for me to easily tether my PC running Ubuntu 9.04 to my G1 running Cy's 4.1.11.
Sorry if this has been discussed elswhere, and as you can see ive been a member for a long time and have never needed any help, but i have been lookin for about a week now and have only been able to find these 2 sites about it: http://joshuaredstone.blogspot.com/2009/01/bluetooth-tethering-from-ubuntu-to.html and http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2009/...thout-jailbreaking-or-installing-applications
The second one is the one im inquiring about.
thanks
Please correct me if I'm misreading you, are you looking to tether? ie. use your cell phone to get ubuntu online?
If so I use aNetshare, first result in google. It has worked best for every rom I've ran, the older RCs, cupcake and now donut. I'm roaming 99% of the time so that may be why the other more popular ones give me trouble. idk...
For any of them to work you'll need root and su permissions. There is a paid app out there which claims to tether w/o root or su. I think through usb.
yah im slightly confused as to what exactly it is you are looking for as well...but the one im using is called PdaNet just google it and its one of the first choices.
its free.
it claims it works without root, i wouldnt know cuz im rooted =] but you can try!
it works via usb so it charges the phone while you're surfin =]
EDIT....heres the link. http://www.junefabrics.com/android/index.php
PS. my bad...didnt realize you were already running cyan =]
sonikamd said:
Please correct me if I'm misreading you, are you looking to tether? ie. use your cell phone to get ubuntu online?
If so I use aNetshare, first result in google. It has worked best for every rom I've ran, the older RCs, cupcake and now donut. I'm roaming 99% of the time so that may be why the other more popular ones give me trouble. idk...
For any of them to work you'll need root and su permissions. There is a paid app out there which claims to tether w/o root or su. I think through usb.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
sorry if i wasnt clear before but i have Ubuntu and want to know how to tether my G1 through bluetooth using Ubuntu....i cant get netshare to work through Ubuntu. how did you get it to work?
bluetooth, you got me there... sry
Ya, sry no idea how to tether via bluetooth. I really only use wifi. Dunno why(maybe because of high data traffic) but my phone would constantly die while tethered and charging via usb.
Other than getting ubuntu to see&install my wireless card(nothing to do with my phone) I don't remember having any problems getting it to see or connect to my phone.
Or am I still confused and what you're really trying to do is use the internet you already have working on ubuntu to get you phone online?
for whatever reason my Ubuntu 9.04 does not automatically read my phone (Tmobile G1) as a modem through the usb. whenever i configure the steps (http://technologyheaven.com/2009/08/27/phoneasmodem/) to get it to read my phone it still says not connected even though it IS connected. I know the usb ports work cause i can get it to mass storage...just not modem.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thx!
it's been a long while since I used USB tethering (anyone remember tetherbot & socks proxies). You may need to have the android sdk installed or atleast know how to communicate with your device via console. Connecting as a mass storage device and as a modem are two different things, so one may work great while the other still needs more setup.
Hopefully someone else with more experience can chime in.. please.. anyone...
I don't know a ton about cyan's roms but I'm assuming they come rooted by default. Is there a reason you don't want to use the wifi method for the time being?
edit: fwiw, you can use the wifi method while charging via usb. But, with heavy traffic(downloading huge files consecutively) the usb may not be able to keep up with the battery usage.. especially if on a 3g network. Using the stock charger & wifi on 3g the battery actually gets a little charge(power supply is ~500mA on usb, ~1A on charger). Either way, usb or wifi, usb or charger, turn off your screen for best results.
Im surprised no one mentioned Wireless tether for root users:http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
supports both wifi and bluetooth.
@B3astofthe3ast, cool I didn't know that(no bt on my laptop, ya it's kinda old heh). For whatever reason on several different roms I get terrible data when using that app, it might be because I'm 100% roaming with no 3g ever. Tethers to pc fine just 9/10 doesn't seem to be able download stuff.
thx, but i have that (http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/). anyway, im thinking its got something to do with my comp and not the phone itself, seeing as i can get on internet with windows just fine. Im just trying to move away from windows and to Ubuntu.
p.s. i dont have a wireless card in my self built computer, thats why i dont use wifi!

Wanting to tether my hero to Linux, HELP!

Ok. So I have an HTC Hero CDMA with Fresh ROM 1.1. I have the wifi-tether app installed, but my desktop does not have wireless. I normally use PdaNet on Windows 7, but I am now dual booting Ubuntu 9.10 with Windows 7 Ultimate. I want to USB tether my phone to either Ubuntu 9.10 or OpenSuse 1.1. I have tried the little "Sprint MNS rig" and it fails for me every time and every way. I am open to anything! I will even wipe my phone and install a new ROM if needed! I just really want to USB tether my phone to Linux! Thanks!
Unfortunatly, the USB tether app doesn't work on our Hero.
Have you tried running PDAnet in Wine?
This worked for me.
defaria said:
This worked for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
These links are gettin better and better.
defaria said:
This worked for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ya, I have been googling since 5 A.M. so how about NOT being a complete ass, ok?
KyleIsTheBeast said:
Ya, I have been googling since 5 A.M. so how about NOT being a complete ass, ok?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well I used to tether my diamond to linux all the time and afaik you should be able to get it.
Look up the guide that uses the race condition(enabling sharing before connection grabs), it's on this forum.
Setup a dial up connection in KPPP or w/e your choice is. Have the connection dial #777 and fill in anything for user/pass and that may work.
Best I can think of at the moment.
ROFLMAO.
That link works for me too.
Anyhow i can't think of a laptop that has windows 7 that doesn't have wireless? whats the use having a laptop without wireless? where did you get this state of the art beast. does it have bluetooth?
defaria said:
This worked for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe you should actually read some of the things you google.
The first link talks about MNS, which he said does not work.
The second link is the same thing.
The third link is this thread.
The fourth link is also MNS.
cteneyck said:
ROFLMAO.
That link works for me too.
Anyhow i can't think of a laptop that has windows 7 that doesn't have wireless? whats the use having a laptop without wireless? where did you get this state of the art beast. does it have bluetooth?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you're going to attempt to be a smart ass, at least read the post first instead of seeing what other people say and repeat them.
AFAIK, most desktops do not come with built in wireless cards. Seems you can pick up a small selection of motherboards from Newegg that have a/b/g, but that's about it.
I repeat however, have you tried PDAnet in Wine?
My Windows 7 desktop doesn't have wireless either.
But wireless pci cards are getting cheaper as we speak. That's an option I guess?
cteneyck said:
ROFLMAO.
That link works for me too.
Anyhow i can't think of a laptop that has windows 7 that doesn't have wireless? whats the use having a laptop without wireless? where did you get this state of the art beast. does it have bluetooth?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey smart ass? First off, I said DESKTOP. Secondly, Lets say I DID have a laptop with Windows 7 and no wireless, you mocking it is NOT solving my problem, which is why your post should be reported for low quality. Lastly, "whats the use having a laptop without wireless?" Isn't even a sentence. Stay off my threads. Thanks
And to the guy recommending PdaNET on Wine, No I haven't dude I am looking into it right now.
Here's something else to look into
http://code.google.com/p/azilink/
If you can get the race condition to work, the KPPP connection should work.
If not, try the VPN.
As far as using Wired Tether on 2.1, it seems it runs, the Su request goes through, the computer make the "hardware plugged in noise," but as far as getting data to transfer, nothing.
However I'm at my Mom's house, and her USB ports are all screwed up, so my tests are inconclusive.
KyleIsTheBeast said:
Hey smart ass? First off, I said DESKTOP. Secondly, Lets say I DID have a laptop with Windows 7 and no wireless, you mocking it is NOT solving my problem, which is why your post should be reported for low quality. Lastly, "whats the use having a laptop without wireless?" Isn't even a sentence. Stay off my threads. Thanks
And to the guy recommending PdaNET on Wine, No I haven't dude I am looking into it right now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
First off. Kyle i don't think your mother would appreciate you talking to ppl like that.
Second. yes i did miss read your post. my bad
Third. the second post was funny as hell. and proves you didn't do any searching on this forum much less any other.
so please stop whining and get busy trying to figure it out. if you get stumped post your errors and commands and we'll lend a helping hand.
Third have you tried proxoid?
Also i found this link
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=409949084&blogID=446443940
its for a g1 but you should be able to make it work.
so don't post asking for somebody to figure it out for you unless you search first.
Tethering works just fine for me. It comes up as a wifi access point in network manager, and it also comes up in iwlist for an essid. im using gentoo btw
And im using the wireless tether app which comes in most custom roms to do my tethering
you can download the said app here : http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
abcdfv said:
As far as using Wired Tether on 2.1, it seems it runs, the Su request goes through, the computer make the "hardware plugged in noise," but as far as getting data to transfer, nothing.
However I'm at my Mom's house, and her USB ports are all screwed up, so my tests are inconclusive.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wired tether(the app) doesn't work. I've tried on 1.6, 2.01 and 2.1. It's an incompatibility with our Heros it seems.
And at above poster, he said NOT wireless.
cteneyck said:
First off. Kyle i don't think your mother would appreciate you talking to ppl like that.
Second. yes i did miss read your post. my bad
Third. the second post was funny as hell. and proves you didn't do any searching on this forum much less any other.
so please stop whining and get busy trying to figure it out. if you get stumped post your errors and commands and we'll lend a helping hand.
Third have you tried proxoid?
Also i found this link
LINK
its for a g1 but you should be able to make it work.
so don't post asking for somebody to figure it out for you unless you search first.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
First off, My mom is dead. Died when I was six jackass.
Secondly, You must not have learned your lesson about READING THE POSTS huh? I said I have been searching since 5 A.M. for an answer but all have failed, or aren't companionable.
Lastly, I have already found that. For some reason, I can not establish a connection. It will not even pick up the fact that there is a wired connection.
P.S. Proxoid is NOT what I am looking for. It does not connect like an internet connection and I have to go through every program I want to use for the internet and change the proxy settings manually. Not only that, it lags, disconnects, and the response time is terrible.
cteneyck said:
Third. the third post was funny as hell. and proves that the person who posted that link, all the people commenting on how funny it was, and myself, didn't even look at the first page of results, and just laughed at our own stupidity.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Quoted for Truth.
intx said:
Wired tether(the app) doesn't work. I've tried on 1.6, 2.01 and 2.1. It's an incompatibility with our Heros it seems.
And at above poster, he said NOT wireless.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh, my b. And in the 2.1 build, if you go into wireless settings and enable mobile network sharing, it comes as an interface usb0 in which you can dhcpcd it to gain internet access
I haven't tested this, but you could probably get the same usb0 interface using this app: http://code.google.com/p/android-wired-tether/
KyleIsTheBeast said:
First off, My mom is dead. Died when I was six jackass.
Secondly, You must not have learned your lesson about READING THE POSTS huh? I said I have been searching since 5 A.M. for an answer but all have failed, or aren't companionable.
Lastly, I have already found that. For some reason, I can not establish a connection. It will not even pick up the fact that there is a wired connection.
P.S. Proxoid is NOT what I am looking for. It does not connect like an internet connection and I have to go through every program I want to use for the internet and change the proxy settings manually. Not only that, it lags, disconnects, and the response time is terrible.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i still don't think she would appreciate your tone. and even though you have been searching you have yet to pick one possible solution and post any errors that you have had. you just ***** that you can't figure it out and flame everybody that finds humor at the "third" post. BTW its around 5 am somewhere in the world so that doesn't prove a thing.

Wifi Teather

Ok, so I just upgraded to Froyo, flashed Perception build 10. But, I can't get MobileAp to work. Like, it'll run and I can find the network on my laptop, but no internet access once I've connected
Ideas?
froyo has a built in wireless tether. try using it instead
settings>wireless and network>mobile ap
mtrsttr said:
froyo has a built in wireless tether. try using it instead
settings>wireless and network>mobile ap
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's what I am using, and it's not working. I can join the network, but no internet access
No ideas?
Firebird kernel 24
Have you tried connecting with anything besides your laptop? An ipod or another device? I have always been able to connect with my windows devices but it can take a few minutes after connecting before internet access is obtained.
Aster you able to tether via usb?
You can also try using an app from the market to see if it will work if you haven't already.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
It's in the market. I use it instead of mobileap cause it allows me to secure my wifi and allow only those who I know to connect. Mobileap is completely open to any and all. I'm sending this post from my hp laptop tethered to my captivate.
@bobarone....click mobile ap settings to enable secure connection. default is usually set to open
newter55 said:
Have you tried connecting with anything besides your laptop? An ipod or another device? I have always been able to connect with my windows devices but it can take a few minutes after connecting before internet access is obtained.
Aster you able to tether via usb?
You can also try using an app from the market to see if it will work if you haven't already.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for your mention of Windows, because I just tried it on my Mac and that's what would not work. My iTouch worked fine though.
Any ideas on making it work with my Mac? if not that's not a big deal as that's not what I'll be using it for primarily, just wondering.
Thanks for your help, didn't even think about it!
Regards
Smith
Hmmm...i thought mac's "just worked" honestly I know nothing about them, every time I get a new laptop I say I am gonna get an apple but wind up with windows.
was just in best buy last week and the new ones look sweet so perhaps this summer I will finally make the leap.
newter55 said:
Hmmm...i thought mac's "just worked" honestly I know nothing about them, every time I get a new laptop I say I am gonna get an apple but wind up with windows.
was just in best buy last week and the new ones look sweet so perhaps this summer I will finally make the leap.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well... Macs are harder to break. lol idk if they 'just work' haha but only reason I even have an apple is because it's fast as hell for school work, and when I got it was before I learned linux so I thought it was the only Windows alternative. Learning linux has made most of this 'more advanced' adb stuff cake because I know all the shell commands haha
I would still recommend one though simply because you'll be relatively hard pressed to find a laptop with such high specs for that price anywhere else. That, and you can multiboot so you can decide what you like best. That was the deciding factor for me lol.
But thanks a lot for your help, this makes me feel much better. I use my wifi tether for work because the upload speeds suck hard and I never get jack done if I don't lol, so I'm happy this works!
Regards
Smith
No problem....glad to be of assistance
newter55 said:
@bobarone....click mobile ap settings to enable secure connection. default is usually set to open
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can't get the save button to come up. Tried changing it, but save is greyed out, just cancel as an option.
From a phone
How many characters/numbers are you trying to use? Minimum appears to be eight though I never paid attention til now, the code I have always used just happens to be sufficient.

Categories

Resources