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I was wondering, if I don't have Data Plan, would 3g be useful for me at all, or should I just turn it off.
I heard 3g helps call quality too, but not sure if it works for me, since I don't have data plan.
Edit: I have Tmobile and yes I have i have 3g in my area
Also, is there anyway to making dialer vibrate?
-Thanks
Nope no need for 3G without the data plan.
Aerik said:
I was wondering, if I don't have Data Plan, would 3g be useful for me at all, or should I just turn it off.
I heard 3g helps call quality too, but not sure if it works for me, since I don't have data plan.
Also, is there anyway to making dialer vibrate?
-Thanks
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Yep no data no 3g
It depends on your provider, obviously you need some some kind of data tariff, but not necessarily a "data plan". Where are you and who's your provider (In the UK I get 3G no problem on PAYG, but some places are mean).
I'm assuming tmo doesn't charge per mb... On my pay and go plan, data is £3/mb!! It's kinda annoying when flashing ROMs, as 3G normally gets enabled and I get charged for it :<
AdrianK said:
I'm assuming tmo doesn't charge per mb... On my pay and go plan, data is £3/mb!! It's kinda annoying when flashing ROMs, as 3G normally gets enabled and I get charged for it :<
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That is vicious, on my Virgin PAYG, as soon as use data any day it is 30p, then I can use up to 25MB, after that it is £2/MB. But if I top up £20 in one month, the next month I have 1GB of data, plus 6000 texts as a free bonus.
AdamPI said:
That is vicious, on my Virgin PAYG, as soon as use data any day it is 30p, then I can use up to 25MB, after that it is £2/MB. But if I top up £20 in one month, the next month I have 1GB of data, plus 6000 texts as a free bonus.
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That's a sweet deal! I'm a really light user, only top up £10/m, but I'll look in to Virgin. I was going to switch to vodaphone as the do the same one day browsing/25mb for 50p, but they don't have any reception in my area :-(
Thanks for the tip ;-)
Just wondering, do all carriers in the UK charge by the MB? No one at all offers unlimited data?
AdrianK said:
That's a sweet deal! I'm a really light user, only top up £10/m, but I'll look in to Virgin. I was going to switch to vodaphone as the do the same one day browsing/25mb for 50p, but they don't have any reception in my area :-(
Thanks for the tip ;-)
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Yeah I don't use too much, way too little for contract. I just top-up £20 at once though to get the bonus and then it lasts a while.
phatmanxxl said:
Just wondering, do all carriers in the UK charge by the MB? No one at all offers unlimited data?
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Virgin actually call their offer unlimited, but it clearly isn't when you read the small print. There are various levels of "unlimited" for various prices, but if you are caning it then you'd get a contract plan.
@Adam - Thanks so much for the info on Virgin. I just saw that they offer 300 when you top up a tenner, which is why I was staying with crappy O2. Just ordered my SIM Now to find out if they have 3G in my area....
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@Adam - Thanks so much for the info on Virgin. I just saw that they offer 300 when you top up a tenner, which is why I was staying with crappy O2. Just ordered my SIM Now to find out if they have 3G in my area....
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They're free now aren't they the Virgin SIMs, when I got mine it was 97p
Virgin run on T-mobile, so wherever they are Virgin are too. Plus that means my T-mobile locked G1 doesn't need unlocking.
I hope this question is not idiotic, but does Wi-Fi tethering press charges on your account? If this matters I have T-Mobile, and Dream (G1). I'm just curious, I don't really want charges for this. Sorry if there has been previous topics about this, and thanks for those who actually help me ^>^
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Its the same as loading the browser....correct me if im wrong, but unless u have "unlimited" data, your gonna get charged for data..
Welcome to XDA.
Well I do have an unlimited android web service (data plan) so if I tether, I'll just receive the monthly charges I already recieve?
If you have unlimited plan... and it has the data plan included... then you will not be charged anything extra.. your bill not change.. Wifi terthing uses your data plan, as stated above its like using the browser on the phone.. But like anything i wouldnt go crazy and downloand huge files or anything like that...
Hey everyone! Hopefully I will go to the at&t store to pick up my Captivate tomorrow. However, I have a problem.
You see, my family has 5 members who have phone line, 2 of which have data plans. My father has a data plan and is content with his iphone 3gs and is eligible for an upgrade. So, he plans to pay $250 for a new Samsung Captivate that will SUPPOSEDLY be for him and his line. However, he is going to give it to me instead, and I don't have a data plan.
Is there any way I could unlock my phone in the sense that I can use it without a data plan? Like can I have 3g turned off 24/7? I plan to get my phone rooted, does rooting automatically do this/allow me to do this?
Thanks in advance.
No as soon as you put an AT&T Sim in it it will register on their network and a data plan will be added...
Sadly AT&T requires smartphones to have Data plans. You're not going to have any choice. Hopefully your old man won't notice, eh?
$250?!? How long has he had the contract with them? I picked mine up for $99.
terrigan said:
Sadly AT&T requires smartphones to have Data plans. You're not going to have any choice. Hopefully your old man won't notice, eh?
$250?!? How long has he had the contract with them? I picked mine up for $99.
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For a little less than a year, he didn't wait out his whole 2 years lol.
well thats not possible if you have att but if you pay like 250 more and buy a vibrant off contract and unlock then you only pay 10 dollars for unlimited data
You can have AT&T put a data block on your phone, but that blocks mms also. Then the system wont put you on a data plan. btw data block is free to do, we know how they like to charge for most of there features.
Gaidheil said:
You can have AT&T put a data block on your phone, but that blocks mms also. Then the system wont put you on a data plan.
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You better research this - AT&T won't put a datablock on a smarthphone that requires data. Phones transmit their IMEI numbers when on the network - AT&T will see it is a Captivate and force a data plan on the customer.
If you bought it off contract, you may have a chance, but if you buy it via the subsidized contract price you need to play by their rules.
no even if u buy the captivate off contract you still have to pay for data but if you buy a vibrant off contract unlock it then its up to you whether or not you want a data plan
If you have a GoPhone sim card in it, they won't charge you for data. I have a GoPhone sim in mine and I've never been required to purchase data for it. I'm not sure about monthly bills though...they may require data on those.
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Hey everyone! Hopefully I will go to the at&t store to pick up my Captivate tomorrow. However, I have a problem.
You see, my family has 5 members who have phone line, 2 of which have data plans. My father has a data plan and is content with his iphone 3gs and is eligible for an upgrade. So, he plans to pay $250 for a new Samsung Captivate that will SUPPOSEDLY be for him and his line. However, he is going to give it to me instead, and I don't have a data plan.
Is there any way I could unlock my phone in the sense that I can use it without a data plan? Like can I have 3g turned off 24/7? I plan to get my phone rooted, does rooting automatically do this/allow me to do this?
Thanks in advance.
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yeah i dont understand why people even want to try this.
if he is getting it for that price just unlock it and try to go to another provider....
alphadog00 said:
You better research this - AT&T won't put a datablock on a smarthphone that requires data. Phones transmit their IMEI numbers when on the network - AT&T will see it is a Captivate and force a data plan on the customer.
If you bought it off contract, you may have a chance, but if you buy it via the subsidized contract price you need to play by their rules.
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i spoke with them about this yesterday, as i wanted to open a 3rd line w my old blackjack, and they told me that it would HAVE to have the min 15$ data plan on the phone, no way around it.
smartphone = smartphone plan. thats just how it is now.
It's odd, I've had mine for about a week now, and I still don't have a data plan. Hasn't been added, I've checked data usage, it says "information not available"...
I have a text and data block on it... but I'm not completely sure on that. Prick of a sister did that.
pokedoke said:
It's odd, I've had mine for about a week now, and I still don't have a data plan. Hasn't been added, I've checked data usage, it says "information not available"...
I have a text and data block on it... but I'm not completely sure on that. Prick of a sister did that.
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LOL! dude! I am also in the same boat. I had a data block put on my line about a year ago. I bought my captivate one week ago and no data plan yet. Its not on my bill and I can't connect.
I really have no need of a data plan. Everywhere I go, there is WiFi available.
I am loving it so far, lets hope they dont get wise to it.
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LOL! dude! I am also in the same boat. I had a data block put on my line about a year ago. I bought my captivate one week ago and no data plan yet. Its not on my bill and I can't connect.
I really have no need of a data plan. Everywhere I go, there is WiFi available.
I am loving it so far, lets hope they dont get wise to it.
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Indeed...but I was kinda looking forward to a data plan... living in the city = real time traffic updates are pure bliss. But I suppose the areas with traffic are areas with wifi anyway...haha.
What differs from yours is that my block started when I got the phone. You'd think somebody would catch on...
For some reason they allowed me to use the unlimited family data plan (non-smartphone) for my Tilt2 in the beginning of the year even though it clearly showed in my account that I was using a Tilt2 (bought off eBay). I did have a data block on my phone prior to the Tilt2. Picked up the Captivate off contract and still enjoying unlimited data since launch.
hey guys. i work at att as a sales rep and there is a way to get it without data...
lmk if interested.
People who have blocks on data plans are being grandfathered in.
You can no longer block data on smartphones.
again. im telling you i know how to do it
I didn't see your post, but I can already tell it's not available to just anyone.
lol ive been working with att for over a year. im tellinmg you i can do it. for Blackberry, iphone, any smart phone
i have wifi everywhere. no need for dataplan.
are there parts of the droid OS that absolutely requires buying a 3g data plan for some strange reason or another? everywhere i am there is already wifi.
JediFonger said:
i have wifi everywhere. no need for dataplan.
are there parts of the droid OS that absolutely requires buying a 3g data plan for some strange reason or another? everywhere i am there is already wifi.
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I think a data plan is required... perhaps at first. My parents recently bought a phone from T-mo & they needed to sign up for a data plan, but only for the first month- then they complained that they don't even know how to use it to a CS agent in a phone conversation & the plan was removed. However, being that it's 4g, I'm not certain if there's a mandatory charge (like Sprint does w/ its 4g Evo).
Edit: Another option is if this was a retail purchase & not via a contract w/ the provider. Simply slip the sim card in the 2x & your minute plan moves into your new phone (assuming there was no prior data plan)... am I correct?
JediFonger said:
i have wifi everywhere. no need for dataplan.
are there parts of the droid OS that absolutely requires buying a 3g data plan for some strange reason or another? everywhere i am there is already wifi.
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Dataplan is not required, wifi is enough.
juhar1 said:
Dataplan is not required, wifi is enough.
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I wish it were always up to the consumer but that's not true. You are by contract (if you purchase the phone via contract) to have a data plan. Most of us will be forced to do this, very few can get away with it.
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I wish it were always up to the consumer but that's not true. You are by contract (if you purchase the phone via contract) to have a data plan. Most of us will be forced to do this, very few can get away with it.
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Yeah but that was not the case here? Question was that if you can use O2X without data plan or not.
e: And I understand from the OP's post that it's not required to take data plan with phone.
juhar1 said:
Yeah but that was not the case here? Question was that if you can use O2X without data plan or not.
e: And I understand from the OP's post that it's not required to take data plan with phone.
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Yeah, you're right.
OP, the Android OS has an wifi adapter integrated & you can use your phone w/ out a data plan.
But apart from buying this phone off contract, you'll be obligated to have a monthly data plan.
i've had a HTC hermes for 4 yrs now w/o dataplan. somehow i got ATT to pay for it AND still don't have to pay for dataplan. i know it's different now
my current phone is dying and when it does, i plan to go w/this X2 phone. i would have liked HTC to have had the tegra2 chipset... but ce la vie =P
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/18/t-mobile-g-slate-and-g2x-dual-core-smartphone-coming-on-april-20/
^anyways, what i plan to do is either:
-do the contract, then pay early termination fee. if the phone was $200 and early term. fee is $300, that's still $500-600 range. i hear this phone will be $600-700 range.
-but if hte phone was $500-ish by itself w/o contract, then i'd probably just freakin' buy the phone.
either way will be better than paying dataplan for 2 years. $30/mo*24months=$720.
just wanted to know if i do get this, that the droid OS can turn off any 3g stuff. i'll also have tmo block it as well, no dataplan. thank.s
JediFonger, I recall hearing users buying this phone w/out a minute plan as well. Weird, I know. Why? Well, obviously for its surfing via wifi but, there is a app somewhere (I don't know too much about it) where you can use the 2x to broadcast as a wireless network. Pretty neat!
technically any wifi device can re-broadcast itself adhoc. one just needs the proper program >) hopefully i can get 1 minus dataplans.
just got G2x and 2GB plan... i have 3G Watchdog & apnthingy to turn it off if i hit certain limits. i'm still good with wifi, hardly using the 2GB
JediFonger said:
i have wifi everywhere. no need for dataplan.
are there parts of the droid OS that absolutely requires buying a 3g data plan for some strange reason or another? everywhere i am there is already wifi.
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Of course you can.
Android OS offers a simple menu with a check-box that lets you switch all data transfer off (2G/3G). This does not switch off WiFi data.
You then have a regular phone with calls, short messages and WiFi which does not cause any data transfer costs.
You only need a mobile phone contract without fix data fees.
Silly Americans
Most phones in the EU don't have sim lock on and we can buy then unlocked straight from the carrier. On the downside, we pay nearly 2.5 X more than you do for phones :/
[Q] Is the rumor that the AT&T "Unlimited" plans are not as unlimited as advertised?
Please forgive me for asking the following as Ii am sure there are threads upon threads talking about this but it is very late, I am very tired and I would just like an answer from some of the MASTERS I know are on this site!!! I did search but nothing in the first 10 or so were what I needed
I have the Cappy w/ the "Unlimited" data plan but I've heard that once you start racking up the gigs that ATT will either begin to charge you after going over some arbitrary limit or they begin to throttle your phones data reception capability.
My brother says that T-Mo does this and has found an app to switch off his "data governor" or whatever you want to call it...
Does AT&T do this and if so, is there anyway of stopping it? I listen to online radio all day at work, haven't checked my data usage lately but I'm up in the 7+ gig range and I do seem to notice a definite decline in my already spotty 3g reception.
(I'd use WiFi but my Nazi IT guy at work has any site that streams anything he deems possible of being "recreational" data blocked(at least all the ones he has found) but yes, my Sirius and Tune-In radio app are blocked thru company WiFi)
~once again, please forgive my lazy-ass, which currently, is totally whooped from the day I've had~
The simplest "solution" would be to just stop listening to the radio as much. I don't know what you do for work but the IT guy doesn't block off those sites just to make your working conditions miserable. He is instructed to block off "recreational" sites from his superiors. In that case, you shouldn't be listening to the radio during your work hours anyways.
I don't think they would throttle your speed or charge you right off the bat. If anything, you should get a letter in the mail saying that you're using insane amounts of data. Bad 3G reception is probably placebo.
They don't do that. ATT is a lot of things, but they're not outright swindlers. If you're reaching or have breached some kind of arbitrary "cap" that you're unaware of for whatever reason, they send you a text message and probably an email as well to let you know.
And for the record, an application that "Freezes" whatever it is that tells ATT you've used up your given data is most definitely illegal. I'm talking fraud-illegality, not some silly, false open-source thing.
AT&T's plans are at a max of 2GB data limit. Unless you have been a member for years and was "grandfathered" into the "unlimited" plan that actually has a cap of 5GB. If you have used 7GB im sure they'll let you know before taking drastic actions. I just wished I would have stayed with them because I had the larger limit but briefly switched to Verizon and when I came back to AT&T I could only get the 2GB plan. I have WiFi pretty much everywhere I go though so its not so bad.
sent from my Captivate
I have unlimited and have used 14 gb in a month with out a peep from at&t. The unlimited is truly unlimited.
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I hope they bring back unlimited
The reason AT$T now caps data on their network is the same reason your employer also limits what data-hungry access you have to their network. Such over-use slows down the network for everyone. While you may think you should be able to use the networks as you please, work or cellular, there has to be some kind of balance so that there are many happy users instead of just a few among lots of unhappy ones. If you must have music at work, buy a radio or an iPod.
There is no throttling down of data (I made a thread on this) and there is no way for it to block app's wifi packet data.