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wm 6.1 or wm 6.5

Hi
I have tried many different roms and are currently at dutty 2.6.
How far has wm6.5 rom come?
I wish to start a thread where we discuss what is best of 6.1 or 6.5

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=500523

you guys rock
The way you take no prisoners with people who might not have time to trawl through a couple of thousand posts before asking a genuine question. You guys really are as hard as nails... no scratch that, maybe youre inadequate teenagers struggling to find a meaning to life beyond a slightly disappointing smartphone?

Hi there,
Don't judge everyone by some people's attitude on here...
It is a tough question though, but it would be good to hear peoples views on whether they prefer wm 6.1 or wm 6.5 - and why
I'm just changing from Miri's 6.5 v 5.2 rom back to Dutty's 6.1 v2.6 EXTREME, purely for the simple fact that I love the customisation that Dutty has done to Manilla and the integration to facebook/contacts seems better on Dutty's rom than Miri's.
Don't get me wrong, both roms are constantly being developed and both roms have their advantages, but for me, Dutty's 6.1 v2.6 hits it (and 2.7 will be better!!!)
I'm sure there are more features to 6.5 and it is supposed to be better screen operations for finger rather than pen, but the only thing I really noticed is the new start menu, which is good, but not very customisable.
Been round 2-3 times with these 2 roms, but think I always end up going back to Dutty's.
Give them both a try though as it is each persons perspective on what they prefer from their HD.

I am not being hard and I don't mind helping, just look at some of my posts, but the problem is every couple of days someone asks: Is this rom better for me? Is X rom faster than Y rom? Can you recommend a rom for me?
Just do a search in this rom forum to see how many have been asking the same thing OVER and OVER, or better yet just look at the last few pages!!
The thing is we are all here for the same reason, we all want the fastest, greatest etc, but it is all subjective. The rom that is perfect for me is maybe not even close to good for you....
As for being a teenager, lol, I wish

tru and i feel all of u but the question is which rom do u prefer .... i havnt tried 6.5 but i would like to read reviews on the differences....and no opinons on wat u like for urself who cares wat u want this post is basic info on the differences between 6.1 and 6.5.

its funny cause u sr and jr members are here to help us newbies out and u dont... i had to teach myself how to mode my hd and how to change the roms now im teaching myself on how to mod and create my own rom.... i do wana thank u guys for creating these roms but u guys are here to help not talk slick but please everyone google ur questions first before just postin anywhere... but i feel this is a descent thread

i havent tried 6.5 and im not going to
when 6.5 is released properly then the good version will be properly put on the hd
until then its 6.1

My goodness, lets everyone just start a new thread for no other reason than laziness to read and experiment, dont encourage this kind topics as it sets a bad example!

seams to me that "IT" guys have a chip on there shoulder, all we are looking for is a bit help. We are not all computer experts. We all want the same thing though. The best and fastest rom. It does not matter what is good for me is not good for you. We are simply asking a question. And you are the guys to answer the questions. Yes you could do a search and get about 10,000 answers. Do you have time to go thru all them for the one you are looking for. COME ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Once again this is heading down the path of another useless thread as everyone is talking off topic again.
This is why MOD's delete threads like this as they just go round in circles with people complaining etc etc etc.
If you want this thread to remain open, start talking about the topic again, otherwise thread will close very soon. I'm actually surprised its still open.
Anyway, ON TOPIC, all 6.5 is a facelift to 6.1 with no real great improvement.
Thats my 2 cents!!

So true am new to all of this, I've been trying to put the 6.5 rom on htc hd and finding help is not easy.

xmsnx said:
but it is all subjective.
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I don't understand why everyone decline the question. In my understanding the question just ask about the advantages of the 6.5 in comparison to 6.1 ROMs here.
May be this question question the high-number-must-better attidude of many of us but for me this question is adequate and reasonable. No reason to harm somebody.
brodos123 said:
I wish to start a thread where we discuss what is best of 6.1 or 6.5
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Maybe this helps: ll you need to know about Windows Mobile 6.5
Relating to this article:
1. Windows Mobile becomes Windows Phone
Surely no reason for our choice.
2. All new menus
6.1: Manula, manila menus, new start menu etc. from HTC
6.5: honeycomb today screen, new menus etc.
Both solutions are more finger friendly -> Its you choice.
3. Flick gestures
Like HTC with manila and some other options on 6.1, microsoft try the same with 6.5. -> Its you choice.
4. Better browser
Most 6.1 ROMs here use Opera and 6.5 the new internet explorer. -> Its you choice.
7. Better looking lock screen
There are many 3th party applications which allow this also on 6.1 ROMs. -> Its you choice.
8. Improved e-mail and messaging
I didn't check this with current 6.5 ROMs but it seems to be, that HTC (on old 6.1 ROMs) made the same.
So, after all this points, for me there is no big advantage between the new 6.5 ROM and the old 6.1 ROMs with HTC applications like manila.
It's only your choice, if you prefer manila or honeycombs, the solutions from HTC or Microsoft.

Elim said:
7. Better looking lock screen
There are many 3th party applications which allow this also on 6.1 ROMs. -> Its you choice.
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For me it was the lock screen in WM6.5 that sold it to me. I used to use S2U2 but found it a little bit buggy and would sometimes crap-out when using flipit/gyrator etc etc. The default WM6.1 lock does a job but it's exactly pretty looking.
But the WM 6.5 lock? 'Tis glorious! I'm loving being able to jump straight to different notifications and it just looks so good as well.
Other aspects of WM6.5
I was using Dutty's v2.6 (and had been using Dutty's ROMs since the first Xtreme Test came out) and couldn't recommend it highly enough; it really is a fantastic ROM. I am missing a lot of the nice little features the the Rhodium Manila brings in.
I'm currently using Miri's v6.1 Premium (and thinking about upgrading to the new v7.0) with TF3D running on top of it. I ran with the Titanium interface for a bit but Manila if definitely better for me and the way I use my phone.
But part of me thinks I might just go back to Dutty's v2.6. As I mentioned above, there a just so many lovely little features in the Rhodium ROMs cooked by Dutty that I'm missing. No sleight on Miri's work you understand; there are many bugs reported when trying to integrate Rhodium with WM6.5 so I think the final advice has to be that if you want all the niceness of the Rhodium ROMs (and believe me, they are nice!) you need to run WM6.1 underneath.
I guess we'll just have to wait for the Diamond2/Touch Pro2 to get their WM6.5 upgrades in the Summer to see how Manila3 works alongside WM6.5.
<Just my views for over the past few days>

dom_mitchell1 said:
For me it was the lock screen in WM6.5 that sold it to me. I used to use S2U2 but found it a little bit buggy and would sometimes crap-out when using flipit/gyrator etc etc. The default WM6.1 lock does a job but it's exactly pretty looking.
But the WM 6.5 lock? 'Tis glorious! I'm loving being able to jump straight to different notifications and it just looks so good as well.
Other aspects of WM6.5
I was using Dutty's v2.6 (and had been using Dutty's ROMs since the first Xtreme Test came out) and couldn't recommend it highly enough; it really is a fantastic ROM. I am missing a lot of the nice little features the the Rhodium Manila brings in.
I'm currently using Miri's v6.1 Premium (and thinking about upgrading to the new v7.0) with TF3D running on top of it. I ran with the Titanium interface for a bit but Manila if definitely better for me and the way I use my phone.
But part of me thinks I might just go back to Dutty's v2.6. As I mentioned above, there a just so many lovely little features in the Rhodium ROMs cooked by Dutty that I'm missing. No sleight on Miri's work you understand; there are many bugs reported when trying to integrate Rhodium with WM6.5 so I think the final advice has to be that if you want all the niceness of the Rhodium ROMs (and believe me, they are nice!) you need to run WM6.1 underneath.
I guess we'll just have to wait for the Diamond2/Touch Pro2 to get their WM6.5 upgrades in the Summer to see how Manila3 works alongside WM6.5.
<Just my views for over the past few days>
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Dutty is finalizing his latest rom v2.7 RC (due out fri) which is WM6.1, and then he is straight into working on WM6.5 roms, so maybe its worth waiting to see how these turn out!!

Fallen Spartan said:
Dutty is finalizing his latest rom v2.7 RC (due out fri) which is WM6.1, and then he is straight into working on WM6.5 roms, so maybe its worth waiting to see how these turn out!!
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That is exactly what I wanted to hear! Magic!

I used Duttys 2.4 ROM earlier, loved it.
I installed Davideucks wm6.5 rom yesterday, I love the speed of the Titanium menu, feels really smooth, so does the start-menu and mail inbox.
But like dom_mitchell1 i miss some small stuff from manila/duttys ROM.
Things I dont like about WM 6.5 is that I dont think we cant customzie the main Titanium menue, yet? For instance I would like it to launch Opera instead of IE.
I liked the new Manila calendar better.
Today screen only shows one appointment. I dont know why they dont use all that empty space they left in the lock-screen, its perfect for showing multiple appointments.
Moving icons the way you want them in the new sart-menu is a hassle.
Hearing that Dutty is moving to 6.5 is really great.
I bet he will bring great stuff to it.

OFFTOPIC: IMO, the biggest factor for chosing either wm6.1 or wm6.5 is personal choice, based on several factors: functionality, looks, speed, customization, compatibility. Thats why it is really difficult to chose the perfect ROM for everybody. This debate between newer members asking this sort of questions and older members becoming sick and tired of answering them is old and it will last forever, I guess. No matter how many times you say to a new member: go read wiki, etc, there will ALWAYS be smb. new coming and asking the same question tomorrow. I, personally, prefer to help instead of suggesting: go read, but sometimes I am way too lazy to present a proper answer, hence I just ignore the question. I believe this should be the solution to this, but everybody treats it differently.
ONTOPIC: I have tried 20+ ROMs for HD, most of them wm6.1, but now i'm on Davide wm6.5 rom and i dont wanna go back. why?
at the beginning its the looks. I guess i just grew tired of the dark, black HTC customization. Also, manila was not suitable for me, i didnt use 70% of the features, i guess: didnt use favourite people tab (its easier to dial directly from phone app.), didnt use financial info tab (not interested), didnt use internet tab (i can easily just open Opera from programs) etc.
Wm6.5 is finally moving at an acceptable speed, the Start menu looks great (although it lacks customization mostly), and from the home screen i can listen to music, see photos, see the wheather (by using titanium weather 2.2) and I can use some HD-quality pictures as background. Also, email, sms lists look neater, more classy. the softkey menus are bigger, more finger-friendly. These are reasons enough for me to use wm6.5 and not come back to 6.1. Not to mention being a smart-ass among my friends with HTC HD and stock ROM.
So if you go rather towards new, imperfect technically-wise ROMs, I advice you to go to 6.5. It is fully utilisable. I actually used the previous Davide ROM for a week!!, which is quite a lot of time in my recent days. If you prefer much functionality and perfect, 100% reliable device, go for wm6.1 roms..

Fallen Spartan said:
Anyway, ON TOPIC, all 6.5 is a facelift to 6.1 with no real great improvement.
Thats my 2 cents!!
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Yes, like 6.1 was a facelift to 6.0, and 6.0 to 5.0. So what? The latest beta versions of 6.5 are clearly faster than 6.1 and you do not need TF anymore, which by itself slows down WM.

fair question. my advice is to sprite backup ur data. try out each new 6.5 rom cook then, if u don't like it, go back to ur previous rom & do #1 spritr restore.
personally, I found early 6.5 roms really slow & unresponsive so I too abandoned the concept for extreme 2.6.
I have decided to wait til it's officially released. I don't think it's anywhere near ready. oh, and it didn't recognize my sdd card.
the big improvements for me were the big X in top right corner (close button) and the opera like IE browser.

Need your opinion: Good 6.5 Cooked ROM

i have become a proud hd user as of yesterday and have spent all the night to reading various wikis, tips etc.
please forgive me if i am asking you for your opinion as to your experience with your 6.5 roms. certainly, i could read another 300 pages of different 6.5 rom threads but can't keep my eyes open.
this questions goes to those who have already flashed two or three different 6.5 roms.
which of those would you recommend in terms of speed and stability?
thanks a lot for your help.

I'm also after some similar info. I'm got Duttys v3.0 flashed at the moment
and it's working great but feel really tempted to try out Win Mo 6.5
Miri's version seems to be the most popular at the moment but I also want to
know how reliable and stable these 6.5 ROM's are compared to something like
Dutty's 3.0 ROM

personally i love duttys V3, i tried miri's 6.5 and didn't like it that much... so i'll probably wait until dutty releases his first 6.5 rom which i hope he will be working on soon

I´m working with different wm 6.5 roms for a few months now and I think at the moment the miri v8.1 (with SLP1.54) is the best especially with the new spb mobile shell 3!

RobbyTouchHD said:
I´m working with different wm 6.5 roms for a few months now and I think at the moment the miri v8.1 (with SLP1.54) is the best especially with the new spb mobile shell 3!
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What I want to know is, how buggy are these 6.5 ROM's?
Is Miri's 6.5 stable enought to use on a daily basis?

If u have SPL 1.54 then the best is Miri's at the moment but if u have 1.14 then try david's as well.... Not bad in my opinion. and yes u can use them on daily basis but Miri's ROM has got some issues with the alarm. Also I dont like the fact that Miri doesn't put even a single ringtone. I'd like some nice ringtones to choose from rather than trimming mp3s.

Da11y said:
What I want to know is, how buggy are these 6.5 ROM's?
Is Miri's 6.5 stable enought to use on a daily basis?
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As a regular flasher IMHO WM 6.5 is still not completly bug free and fast enough for everyday use especially the context menu still not fast enough for my liking even on the latest builds also I think manila tf3d is still not fully compatible with wm 6.5 so has an overall performance impact on wm 6.5 without it wm 6.5 runs a lot better! I would personaly wait for HTC to release a shipped wm 6.5 device i.e. touch pro 2 aka rhodium then have the chef's base rom off that then we'r talking business!
However if you want try then you can't go wrong with miri wm 6.5 roms, davidueck v7 or karmba's!

akash_nu said:
If u have SPL 1.54 then the best is Miri's at the moment but if u have 1.14 then try david's as well.... Not bad in my opinion. and yes u can use them on daily basis but Miri's ROM has got some issues with the alarm. Also I dont like the fact that Miri doesn't put even a single ringtone. I'd like some nice ringtones to choose from rather than trimming mp3s.
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gfreek said:
As a regular flasher IMHO WM 6.5 is still not completly bug free and fast enough for everyday use especially the context menu still not fast enough for my liking even on the latest builds also I think manila tf3d is still not fully compatible with wm 6.5 so has an overall performance impact on wm 6.5 without it wm 6.5 runs a lot better! I would personaly wait for HTC to release a shipped wm 6.5 device i.e. touch pro 2 aka rhodium then have the chef's base rom off that then we'r talking business!
However if you want try then you can't go wrong with miri wm 6.5 roms, davidueck v7 or karmba's!
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Thanks for your input guys. I think I'm going to lay off WinMo 6.5 then as I want my device to be as fast and stable as possible for everyday use.
Will stick to Dutty's v3.0 until he releases an update or realses his version of
WinMo 6.5

Surprisingly there is no mention of onkologs wm6.5
THis is the most stable and fastest...
Not a single person using his rom has issues...
The only downside is that you have to install applications that you need as a cab

drgopoos said:
Surprisingly there is no mention of onkologs wm6.5
THis is the most stable and fastest...
Not a single person using his rom has issues...
The only downside is that you have to install applications that you need as a cab
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Ooops! I forgot to mention his roms yes onkologs wm6.5 are stable still some minor issues with manila without it his rom's are great!! however in terms of issues it depends on the user for me I have yet to come across wm 6.5 rom thats completely bug free for my everyday use I tend to intsall a lot of apps so yes these 3rd party apps may not be completely compatible with wm 6.5 but I cannot live without them so for now I'll stick wm 6.1 until the next build is released by M$ and give that a go

I've also been thinking of getting the miri 6.5 ROM but had a couple of doubts even after trying to read a lot about how to flash:
1. I'm still on stock ROM SPL 1.14, so am i supposed to install HSPL or USPL or just the miri ROM and how??
2. Read the article- [TUT]Dummies guide for flashing 1.56 roms; but got even more confused (seems i'm dummer than the "Dummies" :-D)
3. Can i get back to my stock ROM ever...? Again how??
4. Does miri 6.5 v8.1 ROM has the TF3D from Diamond2 also??
It would be great help if someone could answer my noob questions. I'm really looking forward to flashing my HD with a 6.5 ROM.

Hi,
Don't forget about PhamQuang ROMs. They are qualities and well thought out. Stable and fast too.
Try out the last one ver. 24
Enjoy

drgopoos said:
Surprisingly there is no mention of onkologs wm6.5
THis is the most stable and fastest...
Not a single person using his rom has issues...
The only downside is that you have to install applications that you need as a cab
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Totaly OK with that, the onkologs wm6.5 is the also the best for me!
A++

Having tried both Miri's latest 6.5 andd Dutty's 3.0 I have to say that I find Miri's rom both faster and more stable.
The topaz/rhodium ROMs seem far more buggy to me than the manila-less versions of the 6.5 ROMs using the latest builds. Not to mention that the battery drain using Dutty's ROM is insane compared to Miri's v 8.1 standard.

ktsak said:
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+1M for that.

Hey guys !
About Win 6.5 and SPB Mobile Shell.
Can you explain us a bit what you mean?
Can we keep titanium as running with Mobile Shell? But what is really intersting in this? What does Titanium have than Mobile Shell doesn't? And which customization must we use with titanium to be 100 % happy as you are meaning ?
THank you!

I think onkolog's roms are still the most stable one.

i have tried karmba 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, miri 7.0, 8.0, 8.1
finally using miri 8.1, so far ... ok

Miri's 8.1 rom is really very good after comparing with duty's last rom i understood that miri's rom hardly reached to 43% while duty's and most of the other roms easily reaches beyond 50%

Do you think that 6.1 cooked roms are "better" than 6.5 ones? (poll)

edit: whoa...these results are quite interesting. the majority (some chefs included) thinks that 6.1 is better and smoother than 6.5 despite the missing features. maybe some rom cookers should release more 6.1 roms as everyone seems to be doing 6.5 these days
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while wm6.5 has many worthwhile additions over 6.1, i have noticed that the average 6.1 cooked roms (for example touchX, itje touch-it 10, pctech4u, old jacks roms....etc) tend to work better for me than their 6.5
they just tend to perform better, use noticeably less memory, and video and graphics performance always seems smoother
what do you all think?

6.1 used to be "better". approx 2 months ago it started changing.
Agent 47 changed that first, now other are following.
All answers will have a bias though.

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6.1 used to be "better". approx 2 months ago it started changing.
Agent 47 changed that first, now other are following.
All answers will have a bias though.
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IMHO 6.5 can be quite good, but maybe Im too old or something as I can not live with new start menu from 6.5 ... it's ugly like hell and definitly harder to use. I wonder is there a way to have normal old start menu with 6.5 ?

I was usin "Touch X 10.1 X TREME" ROM, for the last 2 month, but when I updated to "Touch X INFINITY 2.0B" with wm 6.5, it was very buggy, unstable, high mem usage, lots of errors whtout any specefiec reason.
I can say wm 6.1 is a really much better OS than 6.5.
Does anyone know if the 6.5 has come out officially ?

QE_LiTHiUm said:
I was usin "Touch X 10.1 X TREME" ROM, for the last 2 month, but when I updated to "Touch X INFINITY 2.0B" with wm 6.5, it was very buggy, unstable, high mem usage, lots of errors whtout any specefiec reason.
I can say wm 6.1 is a really much better OS than 6.5.
Does anyone know if the 6.5 has come out officially ?
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INFINITY 2.0B (B=BETA, going to trashcan, 3.0 is soon), yes that version is VERY buggy, but try valks or any1 elses, and its good, not really as smooth as 6.1 i think...

totaly agree. i have tested so many 6,5 roms in the x1 and i always end up going back to 6.1 (pctech4u or touchX in my case). you have to be blind not to notice the difference
6.1 roms are smoother than 6.5 even on the touch diamond2
guess MS needs to tweak 6.5 before they finalize it

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and its good, not really as smooth as 6.1 i think...
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right from the horse's mouth

I've tried many ROMs and off course there might be a couple of bugs in wm6.5, because it's not released yet, but it's so much more touchfriendly.
So far the most outstanding wm6.5 ROMs to me are gtrab's r3.61 BB ROM and the latest Energy ROM, both perform very very good. They are both really smooth, especially looking back on the wm6.1 ROMs...

After testing Firestorm... NOWAY! 6.5 is better !!

For me wm 6.1
I like very much to "play" with wm 6.5 and valkirie Xperio is very nice but for day to day use I keep going back to Jack 3.x.
Absolutely no problem for me with that while with wm 6.5 I keep finding problems.

yeah, wm6.5 seem likes to hang a lot..

morgoth6 said:
IMHO 6.5 can be quite good, but maybe Im too old or something as I can not live with new start menu from 6.5 ... it's ugly like hell and definitly harder to use. I wonder is there a way to have normal old start menu with 6.5 ?
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You take the words from my mouth! I feel exactly the same, I would even go further and say the start menu in Wm 6.5 is a joke, I am amazed how a company with so much GUI experience could create it. But some people seem to like it..

Firestorm 6.5 ROM's for me are the best atm

I'm loving 6.5.
I just like to be testing the newest things.
There will be bugs, but they have lessened considerably.
Valkyrie ROM's have been great. I went from 2.4 and ran them all until 2.9.
Currently I'm on itje's Touch-it LEO III.
I just flash, tweak, re-flash....just like everyone here

6.1 roms will be more stable no doubt until 6.5 reaches final status.
Regards,
WC

Once you start using the latest crop of 6.5 [yes FireStorm 2.9 comes to mind] you cannot go back. The UI changes are fluid, kinetic and functional.
Honestly, I'll take a somewhat buggy 6.5, over a 'polished' 6.1 any day now

I am using The energy rom, and no way am i going back to 6.1. Simple reason, scrolling is lot more simple now, without having to use the stylus.

If you really rely on your phone for everyday business use, 6.1 is still better. Some of the newer 6.5 roms are very nice and work well, but they are much more unpredictable than a really solid 6.1 rom that's been tried and tested. Playing around on 6.5 is nice, but most of the 6.5 roms are too garish and colorful in my opinion, and they are just not as stable. People will try to argue, but if you had to pick a rom to get you through a crucial business day, I think most people would pick a 6.1 rom. Not just for stability, but also for battery life.

Energy and firestorm are both realy realy good 6.5 Roms.
the 230xx builds in general (beside 24,25 and propably 28) are both realy fast, stable and energy saving. previous 6.5 builds used to suck all somehow.
so currently i tend to say that 6.5 ROMs have reached thier usability stages. 6.1 is kinda out ^^

rogatsby said:
If you really rely on your phone for everyday business use, 6.1 is still better. Some of the newer 6.5 roms are very nice and work well, but they are much more unpredictable than a really solid 6.1 rom that's been tried and tested. Playing around on 6.5 is nice, but most of the 6.5 roms are too garish and colorful in my opinion, and they are just not as stable. People will try to argue, but if you had to pick a rom to get you through a crucial business day, I think most people would pick a 6.1 rom. Not just for stability, but also for battery life.
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some don't really care if the phone works, if the messages are sent correctly, if the phone rings on call, if the tone sounds on alert, if the alarm buzzes on time. some don't need a working phone and don't mind living with a partially working device.
but let's face it, not everyone are 22. well not anymore.

wm6.1 and manila 2.5

hello
as i surfing other phone threads i saw many WM 6.1- MANILA 2.5 cooked rom for X1 TP2 and diamond2 and... is there any thing for Blackstone ? as in my opinion WM6.1 is much much faster than WM6.5. I almost tried all wm6.5 roms but they are buggy and slower than WM6.1.
the only one for blackstone found is Miri Wm6.1 with manila 2.5 which is fast but rather old and it is DISCONTINUED!

The problem with the buggyness is not due to win 6.5 but Manila 2.5, the problems would be at least the same with 6.1.
I suggest u try some of the win 6.5 + manila 2.1 that there are around such as miri v30, they're very fast and very stable.

xborfi said:
the only one for blackstone found is Miri Wm6.1 with manila 2.5 which is fast but rather old and it is DISCONTINUED!
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Guess why? Because in contradiction to your opinion, almost everybody here regards WM 6.5 as fast, more user friendly, better looking, and bugfree.
As he said: Try 6.5 with Manila 2.1, because it is 2.5 that is slowing down things with the slow Touch HD processor, not 6.5.

yes . tried those V30 and V12 also. they are acceptable but not running smooth. I think Blackstone lack of drivers for WM6.5 causes that. they freezes randomly so not good for daily uses. I almost lost some of my important information using those roms but they are good things to experience things coming future! how ever I think manila 2.5 will run better on Blackstone. now I am switched to miri WM6.1 with manila 2.5 but the version of manila used there is older manila 2.5 one which is buggy and the rom is also discontinued.
-I am also thinking of overclocking the blackstone processor as the last solution since I damaged my htc prophet one because of overclocking

xborfi said:
...the only one for blackstone found is Miri Wm6.1 with manila 2.5 which is fast but rather old and it is DISCONTINUED!
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Why don't you try it. I'm using her for more than a month and I'm really quite happy. And, since I don't use Facebook nor Twitter, everything is working well. I can even send a 160 crt SMS that with all the others 6.5 Rom's wasn't possible.
At least for now, this is my Rom, and will be the backup Rom if I decide to restart flashing new ones.
Ciao

keopsjo said:
Why don't you try it. I'm using her for more than a month and I'm really quite happy. And, since I don't use Facebook nor Twitter, everything is working well. I can even send a 160 crt SMS that with all the others 6.5 Rom's wasn't possible.
At least for now, this is my Rom, and will be the backup Rom if I decide to restart flashing new ones.
Ciao
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for sure! I am now playing with this rom. its fast and smooth. manila is working as what it should be and smooth as i saw in the demo of HD2. however since this rom is discontinued the manila is rather old 2.5 one which having some problems. how ever i am now forget about some broken things and I am happy with this rom.

is miri V3.0 the only WM6.1 and Manila 2.5 available? is there is any other please provide me with the link. thanks

i am using toopix and it's the best. i tried all 6.5 with manilla 2.1 and 2.5 and always had to come back to toopix. i just need an application that does the work of footprint and it will be perfect.

khanem said:
i am using toopix and it's the best. i tried all 6.5 with manilla 2.1 and 2.5 and always had to come back to toopix. i just need an application that does the work of footprint and it will be perfect.
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I agree with you. All WM6.5 ROM I tried are slower then WM6.1 ones.
Now I'm using Miri's WM6.1 Manila2.5 and it's fast, very fast.
I have also update some packages. The only bugs I've are: Facebook and Footprints. Also the default WM6.1 is very bad... but I'm working on it to replace with a third part action screen.
ReX

i agree, it is fast but it is rather old and have some bugs

can some one upload the ROM file and post the link here? the one on the official thread doen not have any free user download slots left.
please

khanem said:
i am using toopix and it's the best. i tried all 6.5 with manilla 2.1 and 2.5 and always had to come back to toopix. i just need an application that does the work of footprint and it will be perfect.
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Hey, do you mind tell me which version you are using?
I'm using miri wm6.1 + Sense 2.5. I gotta say, I love WM6.1 better than 6.5. I find the battery life is better. Also, the speed is better than 6.5. I'm not saying 6.5 is slow, just 6.1 is faster than 6.5.

hey Jakkkk, Do u have the zip/rar file of the miri's ROM with you?
i can't find any working download link for the same..
the dedicated thread is closed as well

People still use 6.1? There is a reason noone puts 2.5 on 6.1
Its so OOOOLLLLDDD. Live in the NOW! once you go kinetic you can't go back! Once you made that move the next one is clear, once you go 6.5.1 + 2.5 there is definitely no going back! Unless you don't commend appearance or usability high on your list.....then you can stick with 6.1
MAN UP, PUT UP WITH THE EXTRA FEW MILISECOND LAG WITH 6.5x ROMS AND ENJOY THE AWESOMENESS!
I am a fellow topix follower, but I love the new 6.5.1 far too much to worry that it takes a few more miliseconds to do things. BOOHOO
P.S, do you still use windows 95? Cos its ALOT faster than xp, vista, and windows 7. I use windows 7 cos it looks god damn gorgeous (and way more features lol) - catch my drift?

I get ur point.. but i still wonder why u r still on HD, i am sure there alot of newer phones out alreday. HD is so OOOOLLLLDDD!!!
anyways, everybody choose whatever they are comfortable with. I'll request you to refrain yourself from passing such remarks(n making such posts) on what others choose. Let them live in the primitive era if they wish to.. Rest its up to u.

varunverma said:
hey Jakkkk, Do u have the zip/rar file of the miri's ROM with you?
i can't find any working download link for the same..
the dedicated thread is closed as well
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Please let me know if you still having trouble... I will upload to Megauploads for you

jackkkkk said:
Please let me know if you still having trouble... I will upload to Megauploads for you
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the twitter tab is not working on this ROM, i want manila 2.5 for that only.
else i m very happy with my current ROM

why no more 6.1 ROMs anymore

I have tested far too many 6.5 roms i dont understand the complete halt of the development of 6.1 ROMS. there seems to be a lot of confusion going on here:
-ALL 6.5.x roms run noticeably slower and jerkier than 6.1 roms.
-some have decent stability but the majority suffer from SOD bug. generally speaking 6.1 cooked ROMs are just more stable.
-ALL have worse battery life than 6.1 roms
-TF3D simply runs smoother on 6.1 roms (~30frames Per Second VS. ~15-20 FPS)
before flaming me go ahead and try flashing ROMs like touchX, PcTech4U, you'd halve to be blind not to notice that todays newer better-looking 6.5.5 ROMs are actully a clear step below what we used to have with 6.1 ROMs last year
bottom line: if you care about battery, speed and stability, forget about 6.5. it feels a lot like a proof of concept on our Xperia

fatso485 said:
I have tested far too many 6.5 roms i dont understand the complete halt of the development of 6.1 ROMS. there seems to be a lot of confusion going on here:
-ALL 6.5.x roms run noticeably slower and jerkier than 6.1 roms.
-some have decent stability but the majority suffer from SOD bug. generally speaking 6.1 cooked ROMs are just more stable.
-ALL have worse battery life than 6.1 roms
-TF3D simply runs smoother on 6.1 roms (~30frames Per Second VS. ~15-20 FPS)
before flaming me go ahead and try flashing ROMs like touchX, PcTech4U, you'd halve to be blind not to notice that todays newer better-looking 6.5.5 ROMs are actully a clear step below what we used to have with 6.1 ROMs last year
bottom line: if you care about battery, speed and stability, forget about 6.5. it feels a lot like a proof of concept on our Xperia
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* i can't say ALL 6.5 is "jerker" .. user interface was enhanced .. "finger" friendly (which is important for a touchscreen unit)
* i didn't also experienced SOD with all the cooked roms that i've tried in 6.5 (following what is indicated in every post by the chef or the developer helps alot) and maybe.. just maybe another factor is the 3rd party apps installed by the user
* yes some cooked roms are hungry for battery ](but not for what i use now) and i think it also depends on the user.. if uses it heavily or moderate..
* TF3D is good! and i agree with that and i will not be the villain in your post but.. users of this unit will find the exact rom or cook the exact rom for them.. that will fit to their everyday use.. not because "it is fast and more stable".. instead of asking them.. be thankful that some, i mean alot of people now do such things to improve this "king of the hill" xperia one and if for you alone, you are already contented of the roms that you've mentioned.. instead of making this post or calling 6.5 a "jerker" (i can't help but laugh) .. help others who is looking for 6.1 cooked roms.. suggest and spread the news..
peaceout!

It's the future man... Or you are in, or you are out!

HolySorento said:
It's the future man... Or you are in, or you are out!
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definitely in..

its not that 6.1 is gone,
see Evilash_leo (latest manila 2.5 2012 with 6.1)
touch x is there... (will be updated probably this week)
People still have interest... but definitely..6.5 & 6.5.x has taken its toll

i would say i want a newer device, and so newer operating system ...something you can't do in case of girlfriend

asalia said:
its not that 6.1 is gone,
see Evilash_leo (latest manila 2.5 2012 with 6.1)
touch x is there... (will be updated probably this week)
People still have interest... but definitely..6.5 & 6.5.x has taken its toll
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i didnt test this Evilash_leo rom all i got was a Korean site with a very slow download link (5k/s) and im not sure if its WWE. can you give me a link
EDIT: seems that i found it. pls ignore my request

1. there are just recently released 6.1 roms
2. 6.1 has been cooked so much, why recook them? just pick one of those 6.1 roms that exist and youre fine

deepthroat said:
i would say i want a newer device, and so newer operating system ...something you can't do in case of girlfriend
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in case of that maybe u can use both newer and older one!
kidding man don't do like i'm said

pansen222 said:
1. there are just recently released 6.1 roms
2. 6.1 has been cooked so much, why recook them? just pick one of those 6.1 roms that exist and youre fine
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Yes but how many wm6.1 have manila 2.5?? Much more needed ...

In my opinion 6.1 is done.
6.5 is only marginally better.
7 had my attention until I read some post by Doministry linking me to info that multi-tasking on 7 would be an issue.
I'm headed to Android next.
X10.

6.1 is definitely faster in general case. But one important characteristic of 6.5 make me never look back on 6.1. It's provide more virtual memory (don't be confuse with available memory with Settings > memory) by opening up slot 60,61 with 6.5 nk and compatible kitchen.

fatso485 said:
I have tested far too many 6.5 roms i dont understand the complete halt of the development of 6.1 ROMS. there seems to be a lot of confusion going on here:
-ALL 6.5.x roms run noticeably slower and jerkier than 6.1 roms.
-some have decent stability but the majority suffer from SOD bug. generally speaking 6.1 cooked ROMs are just more stable.
-ALL have worse battery life than 6.1 roms
-TF3D simply runs smoother on 6.1 roms (~30frames Per Second VS. ~15-20 FPS)
before flaming me go ahead and try flashing ROMs like touchX, PcTech4U, you'd halve to be blind not to notice that todays newer better-looking 6.5.5 ROMs are actully a clear step below what we used to have with 6.1 ROMs last year
bottom line: if you care about battery, speed and stability, forget about 6.5. it feels a lot like a proof of concept on our Xperia
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I have to agree, the 6.1 just works better if you use the phone a lot on the X1.
Which rom do you use with 6.1, I have found that this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561555 is the best for me so far, but I would like to try something else until the latest update comes out...

fatso485 said:
i didnt test this Evilash_leo rom all i got was a Korean site with a very slow download link (5k/s) and im not sure if its WWE. can you give me a link
EDIT: seems that i found it. pls ignore my request
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Hello All,
I agree that we are less and less having 6.1 ROM, but let's not give a bad impression of WM 6.5.
I found WM 6.5 to be very good without manila. very quick and responsive.
Do we have other implementation of WM6.1 with Manila 2.5, apart from evilash_leo ? please direct me.
i tried searching, didnt come across ...
I have been using the VERY stable and smooth Touch X 10.9.1 (WM6.1/Manila 2.1.19202517) NUTS for some 3-4 months lately (WM 6.1 w/M2.1), after having been trying WM6.5 with manila 2.1/2.5
i personally felt WM6.1 is definitely smoother, coz i dont like lags when going thru contacts, dialpad, or sms keyboard-response.
I would nonetheless want the Manila 2.5, though, due to the tighter integration with social networking.
Nice thread. but let's not take things personal and just discuss
Regards,
Nitish/.

as said earlier.. WinMo 6.5 alone is fast.
WinMo 6.5 with Manila 2.1/2.5 make is a bit slower on Xperia Hardware. (u all might have noticed it)
WinMo 6.1 with Manila 2.1/2.5 is having good speed in Xperia hardware. (eg. TouchX 10.9.1 or latest Evilash Leo Manila 2.5)
If you want WM6.5 with speed (and all manila stuff) why not change to HD2.
In Xperia - WM6.1 with/without manila rocks
Just my experience. Thanks!
PEACE

N1T15H said:
Do we have other implementation of WM6.1 with Manila 2.5, apart from evilash_leo ? please direct me.
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here you go ...

deepthroat said:
here you go ...
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thanks i missed that one ... gonna dl and try ..

unfortunately i have to agree with most of the people here. 6.5 is <<< 6.1 on the Xperia.
I would really love to see some of the big chefs here like agent, NRG, itje...etc cook a 6.1 ROM. i think they will be pleasantly surprised with how much faster and smoother their rom will be.
i would recomend that everyone (especially cookers)gives evilash rom (6.1 w\ manilla 2.5) a try