why no more 6.1 ROMs anymore - XPERIA X1 ROM Development

I have tested far too many 6.5 roms i dont understand the complete halt of the development of 6.1 ROMS. there seems to be a lot of confusion going on here:
-ALL 6.5.x roms run noticeably slower and jerkier than 6.1 roms.
-some have decent stability but the majority suffer from SOD bug. generally speaking 6.1 cooked ROMs are just more stable.
-ALL have worse battery life than 6.1 roms
-TF3D simply runs smoother on 6.1 roms (~30frames Per Second VS. ~15-20 FPS)
before flaming me go ahead and try flashing ROMs like touchX, PcTech4U, you'd halve to be blind not to notice that todays newer better-looking 6.5.5 ROMs are actully a clear step below what we used to have with 6.1 ROMs last year
bottom line: if you care about battery, speed and stability, forget about 6.5. it feels a lot like a proof of concept on our Xperia

fatso485 said:
I have tested far too many 6.5 roms i dont understand the complete halt of the development of 6.1 ROMS. there seems to be a lot of confusion going on here:
-ALL 6.5.x roms run noticeably slower and jerkier than 6.1 roms.
-some have decent stability but the majority suffer from SOD bug. generally speaking 6.1 cooked ROMs are just more stable.
-ALL have worse battery life than 6.1 roms
-TF3D simply runs smoother on 6.1 roms (~30frames Per Second VS. ~15-20 FPS)
before flaming me go ahead and try flashing ROMs like touchX, PcTech4U, you'd halve to be blind not to notice that todays newer better-looking 6.5.5 ROMs are actully a clear step below what we used to have with 6.1 ROMs last year
bottom line: if you care about battery, speed and stability, forget about 6.5. it feels a lot like a proof of concept on our Xperia
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* i can't say ALL 6.5 is "jerker" .. user interface was enhanced .. "finger" friendly (which is important for a touchscreen unit)
* i didn't also experienced SOD with all the cooked roms that i've tried in 6.5 (following what is indicated in every post by the chef or the developer helps alot) and maybe.. just maybe another factor is the 3rd party apps installed by the user
* yes some cooked roms are hungry for battery ](but not for what i use now) and i think it also depends on the user.. if uses it heavily or moderate..
* TF3D is good! and i agree with that and i will not be the villain in your post but.. users of this unit will find the exact rom or cook the exact rom for them.. that will fit to their everyday use.. not because "it is fast and more stable".. instead of asking them.. be thankful that some, i mean alot of people now do such things to improve this "king of the hill" xperia one and if for you alone, you are already contented of the roms that you've mentioned.. instead of making this post or calling 6.5 a "jerker" (i can't help but laugh) .. help others who is looking for 6.1 cooked roms.. suggest and spread the news..
peaceout!

It's the future man... Or you are in, or you are out!

HolySorento said:
It's the future man... Or you are in, or you are out!
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definitely in..

its not that 6.1 is gone,
see Evilash_leo (latest manila 2.5 2012 with 6.1)
touch x is there... (will be updated probably this week)
People still have interest... but definitely..6.5 & 6.5.x has taken its toll

i would say i want a newer device, and so newer operating system ...something you can't do in case of girlfriend

asalia said:
its not that 6.1 is gone,
see Evilash_leo (latest manila 2.5 2012 with 6.1)
touch x is there... (will be updated probably this week)
People still have interest... but definitely..6.5 & 6.5.x has taken its toll
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i didnt test this Evilash_leo rom all i got was a Korean site with a very slow download link (5k/s) and im not sure if its WWE. can you give me a link
EDIT: seems that i found it. pls ignore my request

1. there are just recently released 6.1 roms
2. 6.1 has been cooked so much, why recook them? just pick one of those 6.1 roms that exist and youre fine

deepthroat said:
i would say i want a newer device, and so newer operating system ...something you can't do in case of girlfriend
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in case of that maybe u can use both newer and older one!
kidding man don't do like i'm said

pansen222 said:
1. there are just recently released 6.1 roms
2. 6.1 has been cooked so much, why recook them? just pick one of those 6.1 roms that exist and youre fine
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Yes but how many wm6.1 have manila 2.5?? Much more needed ...

In my opinion 6.1 is done.
6.5 is only marginally better.
7 had my attention until I read some post by Doministry linking me to info that multi-tasking on 7 would be an issue.
I'm headed to Android next.
X10.

6.1 is definitely faster in general case. But one important characteristic of 6.5 make me never look back on 6.1. It's provide more virtual memory (don't be confuse with available memory with Settings > memory) by opening up slot 60,61 with 6.5 nk and compatible kitchen.

fatso485 said:
I have tested far too many 6.5 roms i dont understand the complete halt of the development of 6.1 ROMS. there seems to be a lot of confusion going on here:
-ALL 6.5.x roms run noticeably slower and jerkier than 6.1 roms.
-some have decent stability but the majority suffer from SOD bug. generally speaking 6.1 cooked ROMs are just more stable.
-ALL have worse battery life than 6.1 roms
-TF3D simply runs smoother on 6.1 roms (~30frames Per Second VS. ~15-20 FPS)
before flaming me go ahead and try flashing ROMs like touchX, PcTech4U, you'd halve to be blind not to notice that todays newer better-looking 6.5.5 ROMs are actully a clear step below what we used to have with 6.1 ROMs last year
bottom line: if you care about battery, speed and stability, forget about 6.5. it feels a lot like a proof of concept on our Xperia
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I have to agree, the 6.1 just works better if you use the phone a lot on the X1.
Which rom do you use with 6.1, I have found that this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561555 is the best for me so far, but I would like to try something else until the latest update comes out...

fatso485 said:
i didnt test this Evilash_leo rom all i got was a Korean site with a very slow download link (5k/s) and im not sure if its WWE. can you give me a link
EDIT: seems that i found it. pls ignore my request
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Hello All,
I agree that we are less and less having 6.1 ROM, but let's not give a bad impression of WM 6.5.
I found WM 6.5 to be very good without manila. very quick and responsive.
Do we have other implementation of WM6.1 with Manila 2.5, apart from evilash_leo ? please direct me.
i tried searching, didnt come across ...
I have been using the VERY stable and smooth Touch X 10.9.1 (WM6.1/Manila 2.1.19202517) NUTS for some 3-4 months lately (WM 6.1 w/M2.1), after having been trying WM6.5 with manila 2.1/2.5
i personally felt WM6.1 is definitely smoother, coz i dont like lags when going thru contacts, dialpad, or sms keyboard-response.
I would nonetheless want the Manila 2.5, though, due to the tighter integration with social networking.
Nice thread. but let's not take things personal and just discuss
Regards,
Nitish/.

as said earlier.. WinMo 6.5 alone is fast.
WinMo 6.5 with Manila 2.1/2.5 make is a bit slower on Xperia Hardware. (u all might have noticed it)
WinMo 6.1 with Manila 2.1/2.5 is having good speed in Xperia hardware. (eg. TouchX 10.9.1 or latest Evilash Leo Manila 2.5)
If you want WM6.5 with speed (and all manila stuff) why not change to HD2.
In Xperia - WM6.1 with/without manila rocks
Just my experience. Thanks!
PEACE

N1T15H said:
Do we have other implementation of WM6.1 with Manila 2.5, apart from evilash_leo ? please direct me.
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here you go ...

deepthroat said:
here you go ...
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thanks i missed that one ... gonna dl and try ..

unfortunately i have to agree with most of the people here. 6.5 is <<< 6.1 on the Xperia.
I would really love to see some of the big chefs here like agent, NRG, itje...etc cook a 6.1 ROM. i think they will be pleasantly surprised with how much faster and smoother their rom will be.
i would recomend that everyone (especially cookers)gives evilash rom (6.1 w\ manilla 2.5) a try

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Need your opinion: Good 6.5 Cooked ROM

i have become a proud hd user as of yesterday and have spent all the night to reading various wikis, tips etc.
please forgive me if i am asking you for your opinion as to your experience with your 6.5 roms. certainly, i could read another 300 pages of different 6.5 rom threads but can't keep my eyes open.
this questions goes to those who have already flashed two or three different 6.5 roms.
which of those would you recommend in terms of speed and stability?
thanks a lot for your help.
I'm also after some similar info. I'm got Duttys v3.0 flashed at the moment
and it's working great but feel really tempted to try out Win Mo 6.5
Miri's version seems to be the most popular at the moment but I also want to
know how reliable and stable these 6.5 ROM's are compared to something like
Dutty's 3.0 ROM
personally i love duttys V3, i tried miri's 6.5 and didn't like it that much... so i'll probably wait until dutty releases his first 6.5 rom which i hope he will be working on soon
I´m working with different wm 6.5 roms for a few months now and I think at the moment the miri v8.1 (with SLP1.54) is the best especially with the new spb mobile shell 3!
RobbyTouchHD said:
I´m working with different wm 6.5 roms for a few months now and I think at the moment the miri v8.1 (with SLP1.54) is the best especially with the new spb mobile shell 3!
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What I want to know is, how buggy are these 6.5 ROM's?
Is Miri's 6.5 stable enought to use on a daily basis?
If u have SPL 1.54 then the best is Miri's at the moment but if u have 1.14 then try david's as well.... Not bad in my opinion. and yes u can use them on daily basis but Miri's ROM has got some issues with the alarm. Also I dont like the fact that Miri doesn't put even a single ringtone. I'd like some nice ringtones to choose from rather than trimming mp3s.
Da11y said:
What I want to know is, how buggy are these 6.5 ROM's?
Is Miri's 6.5 stable enought to use on a daily basis?
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As a regular flasher IMHO WM 6.5 is still not completly bug free and fast enough for everyday use especially the context menu still not fast enough for my liking even on the latest builds also I think manila tf3d is still not fully compatible with wm 6.5 so has an overall performance impact on wm 6.5 without it wm 6.5 runs a lot better! I would personaly wait for HTC to release a shipped wm 6.5 device i.e. touch pro 2 aka rhodium then have the chef's base rom off that then we'r talking business!
However if you want try then you can't go wrong with miri wm 6.5 roms, davidueck v7 or karmba's!
akash_nu said:
If u have SPL 1.54 then the best is Miri's at the moment but if u have 1.14 then try david's as well.... Not bad in my opinion. and yes u can use them on daily basis but Miri's ROM has got some issues with the alarm. Also I dont like the fact that Miri doesn't put even a single ringtone. I'd like some nice ringtones to choose from rather than trimming mp3s.
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gfreek said:
As a regular flasher IMHO WM 6.5 is still not completly bug free and fast enough for everyday use especially the context menu still not fast enough for my liking even on the latest builds also I think manila tf3d is still not fully compatible with wm 6.5 so has an overall performance impact on wm 6.5 without it wm 6.5 runs a lot better! I would personaly wait for HTC to release a shipped wm 6.5 device i.e. touch pro 2 aka rhodium then have the chef's base rom off that then we'r talking business!
However if you want try then you can't go wrong with miri wm 6.5 roms, davidueck v7 or karmba's!
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Thanks for your input guys. I think I'm going to lay off WinMo 6.5 then as I want my device to be as fast and stable as possible for everyday use.
Will stick to Dutty's v3.0 until he releases an update or realses his version of
WinMo 6.5
Surprisingly there is no mention of onkologs wm6.5
THis is the most stable and fastest...
Not a single person using his rom has issues...
The only downside is that you have to install applications that you need as a cab
drgopoos said:
Surprisingly there is no mention of onkologs wm6.5
THis is the most stable and fastest...
Not a single person using his rom has issues...
The only downside is that you have to install applications that you need as a cab
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Ooops! I forgot to mention his roms yes onkologs wm6.5 are stable still some minor issues with manila without it his rom's are great!! however in terms of issues it depends on the user for me I have yet to come across wm 6.5 rom thats completely bug free for my everyday use I tend to intsall a lot of apps so yes these 3rd party apps may not be completely compatible with wm 6.5 but I cannot live without them so for now I'll stick wm 6.1 until the next build is released by M$ and give that a go
I've also been thinking of getting the miri 6.5 ROM but had a couple of doubts even after trying to read a lot about how to flash:
1. I'm still on stock ROM SPL 1.14, so am i supposed to install HSPL or USPL or just the miri ROM and how??
2. Read the article- [TUT]Dummies guide for flashing 1.56 roms; but got even more confused (seems i'm dummer than the "Dummies" :-D)
3. Can i get back to my stock ROM ever...? Again how??
4. Does miri 6.5 v8.1 ROM has the TF3D from Diamond2 also??
It would be great help if someone could answer my noob questions. I'm really looking forward to flashing my HD with a 6.5 ROM.
Hi,
Don't forget about PhamQuang ROMs. They are qualities and well thought out. Stable and fast too.
Try out the last one ver. 24
Enjoy
drgopoos said:
Surprisingly there is no mention of onkologs wm6.5
THis is the most stable and fastest...
Not a single person using his rom has issues...
The only downside is that you have to install applications that you need as a cab
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Totaly OK with that, the onkologs wm6.5 is the also the best for me!
A++
Having tried both Miri's latest 6.5 andd Dutty's 3.0 I have to say that I find Miri's rom both faster and more stable.
The topaz/rhodium ROMs seem far more buggy to me than the manila-less versions of the 6.5 ROMs using the latest builds. Not to mention that the battery drain using Dutty's ROM is insane compared to Miri's v 8.1 standard.
ktsak said:
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+1M for that.
Hey guys !
About Win 6.5 and SPB Mobile Shell.
Can you explain us a bit what you mean?
Can we keep titanium as running with Mobile Shell? But what is really intersting in this? What does Titanium have than Mobile Shell doesn't? And which customization must we use with titanium to be 100 % happy as you are meaning ?
THank you!
I think onkolog's roms are still the most stable one.
i have tried karmba 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, miri 7.0, 8.0, 8.1
finally using miri 8.1, so far ... ok
Miri's 8.1 rom is really very good after comparing with duty's last rom i understood that miri's rom hardly reached to 43% while duty's and most of the other roms easily reaches beyond 50%

Which Rom You Recomend?

Hello. I want to upgrade my phones ROM because I have and old one from the beginning. My ROM version is 1.19.61.1
So I want to upgrade to new one but I'm confused because there is a very big choice of ROM's here and I do not want to choose poorly
To which ROM you recommend me to update?
Which ROMs are with best performance, least bugs and best features?
First I was very interested in Dutty's V3.7 XT Final but then I also saw that there is lot of wm 6.5 ROMs. Does my phone will have same performance with 6.5 wm version or slower?
Thank You!
ROMs
Sw1pe said:
Hello. I want to upgrade my phones ROM because I have and old one from the beginning. My ROM version is 1.19.61.1
So I want to upgrade to new one but I'm confused because there is a very big choice of ROM's here and I do not want to choose poorly
To which ROM you recommend me to update?
Which ROMs are with best performance, least bugs and best features?
First I was very interested in Dutty's V3.7 XT Final but then I also saw that there is lot of wm 6.5 ROMs. Does my phone will have same performance with 6.5 wm version or slower?
Thank You!
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I have found I want to experiment lots.
I have experimented with Onkolog, LIA which I had issues with, particularly around customising the phone with themes etc.
Between the big 3, Davideuck, Dutty and Miri, my choice is Miri 6.5 V16.
You may find you want to experiment too.
I personally prefer Manila TF3D over 6.5 Titanium and I don't care at all for SPB Mb Shell 3. I haven't tried PointUI but I am pretty sure I would still prefer Manila.
I suggest you go for it and experiment lots.
You can't go wrong with the big 3.
try ones 6.5 but prefered 6.1
6.5 more stable what they claim
try every ROM the best answer
good luck...
I personally prefer miri's wm6.5 v16 for now.because it's beautiful and stable.
Miri's WM6.5 series ROMs are the best!
I have tried out Dutty, MaryOne, taisee and Miri, and finally stayed on miri's ROMs, among which I have flasehd v9.1, 10, 11,12,13,15,16,16.1.
I have several thousand contacts and Calendar data since 2002 on my phone. Only Miris' ROM works with my data so smoothly and fast.
just a question..
Regardless of which ROM you flash, the flashing method is the same right? I've once flashed using USPL for Dutty ROM. If I were to flash now from Dutty ROM to let's say Miri v6.5 ROM, can I use USPL method again directly?
Thanks.
i feel your thread will be banned...
anyways i am happy to recommend you the Topix 2.1, i used many version of dutty but eventually topix is much more fast and stable. i am still expecting dutty's better wm6.5, i still believe in dutty
test and choose
it depends a lot your usage and your priorities.
for me, the are a lot of great cooker doing stablerom: miri, kwbr, duttythroy, pdaviet,laurentius,...
I've not tested all so I'm not saying that these are the only ones.
As my priority is the speed an fluidity of the phone i help on bench marking rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=516190
and based on these results damn small topix is the fastest one.
it's also very stable.
As you can see in the bench result, 6.5 roms are slower but usually they use less ram.
again, all this is my priority.
the best is try some then decide.
houms said:
As you can see in the bench result, 6.5 roms are slower
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Where do you see that? I don't think that the newer versions of 6.5 "slower" than 6.1.
Sw1pe said:
Hello. I want to upgrade my phones ROM because I have and old one from the beginning. My ROM version is 1.19.61.1
So I want to upgrade to new one but I'm confused because there is a very big choice of ROM's here and I do not want to choose poorly
To which ROM you recommend me to update?
Which ROMs are with best performance, least bugs and best features?
First I was very interested in Dutty's V3.7 XT Final but then I also saw that there is lot of wm 6.5 ROMs. Does my phone will have same performance with 6.5 wm version or slower?
Thank You!
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If you use often Internet on your phone, i recomend you Laurentius L26 2.3 (WIndows Mobile 6.1): this rom provide the best mobile navigation experience with awesome version of Opera tweaked by Laurentius and with a usefull zoomslider.
Also L26 is stable, clomplete of most rilevant applications, strongly optimized and with a confortable and pretty upper menu with battery icon that show exact state of the battery...this is very useful for me.
i liked onkolog's rom if youre looking for speed + lots of free memory and battery life
If you use outlook and associated programs a lot, WM 6.5 is a lot better.
On WM 6.5 Apps can use close to 64M if your drivers and related DLLs are all in the 61 and 60 slots.
Regarding the benchmarks - I would say that a lot of what is importan about performance w.r.t. the end user experience is difficult to measure
: i.e. random stalls and a lack of responsivenes, larency when switching between aps or when touching the screen, and general smoothness of presentation.
These types of threads never get anywhere. Try some ROM's yourself and choose. Everyone taste are different.
I've used a couple recent Dutty roms and they were great, but now I'm using the fantastic Topix 2.1 rom and I love it. Bug free, stable, fast, and no annoying sms problems.
I've tried a couple different Winmo 6.5 roms and I'm not a big fan of it as it is right now. Winmo 6.5 titanium interface doesn't provide me with ease of use as TF3D does. There is no awesome music player or anything of the sort on titanium, just the same ol crappy Windows Media Player.
I find myself using TF3D even when I have a Winmo6.5 rom so I fail to see the point. The 6.5 notifications overwriting the TF3D ones, app incompatibility, etc, just makes it more annoying for me to use.
I'm gonna wait until 6.5 is more well established...or just wait for 7 =D
If you like TF3D i recommend you keep using WM6.1 ROM's... It just doesn't integrate very well with the new WM6.5 style menu's. It is possible though, but since TF3D replaces a lot of WM6.5's functions the advantage isn't that great. It is however the safest choice if you would like to try out WM6.5, but don't know yet if you want to abandon TF3D.
Personally I'm a big fan of WM6.5, and I don´t use TF3D at all anymore. The new titanium interface is sleek and stylish, and with some plugins from the XDA forums (search for 'CHome' + wat you need) I have all the functionality I need (without out the hassle and memory consumption of TF3D).
As said before by other people, you have to chose yourself. Read allot on the different ROM's, about there features, memory, WM6.1 / WM 6.5, addons / customizations, etc.
After this you'll probably have 2 or 3 ROM's you'll want to try: Do so. Flash these ROM's and you'll know exactly what you like and don't like. This is the only way of finding out if the ROM has and does what you want it to.
So stop reading this thread and do some research Good luck!
For me?? MIRI THE BEST!
Its up to individual.. Try playing with the few roms and u roughly know which you like.
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Do you think that 6.1 cooked roms are "better" than 6.5 ones? (poll)

edit: whoa...these results are quite interesting. the majority (some chefs included) thinks that 6.1 is better and smoother than 6.5 despite the missing features. maybe some rom cookers should release more 6.1 roms as everyone seems to be doing 6.5 these days
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while wm6.5 has many worthwhile additions over 6.1, i have noticed that the average 6.1 cooked roms (for example touchX, itje touch-it 10, pctech4u, old jacks roms....etc) tend to work better for me than their 6.5
they just tend to perform better, use noticeably less memory, and video and graphics performance always seems smoother
what do you all think?
6.1 used to be "better". approx 2 months ago it started changing.
Agent 47 changed that first, now other are following.
All answers will have a bias though.
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6.1 used to be "better". approx 2 months ago it started changing.
Agent 47 changed that first, now other are following.
All answers will have a bias though.
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IMHO 6.5 can be quite good, but maybe Im too old or something as I can not live with new start menu from 6.5 ... it's ugly like hell and definitly harder to use. I wonder is there a way to have normal old start menu with 6.5 ?
I was usin "Touch X 10.1 X TREME" ROM, for the last 2 month, but when I updated to "Touch X INFINITY 2.0B" with wm 6.5, it was very buggy, unstable, high mem usage, lots of errors whtout any specefiec reason.
I can say wm 6.1 is a really much better OS than 6.5.
Does anyone know if the 6.5 has come out officially ?
QE_LiTHiUm said:
I was usin "Touch X 10.1 X TREME" ROM, for the last 2 month, but when I updated to "Touch X INFINITY 2.0B" with wm 6.5, it was very buggy, unstable, high mem usage, lots of errors whtout any specefiec reason.
I can say wm 6.1 is a really much better OS than 6.5.
Does anyone know if the 6.5 has come out officially ?
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INFINITY 2.0B (B=BETA, going to trashcan, 3.0 is soon), yes that version is VERY buggy, but try valks or any1 elses, and its good, not really as smooth as 6.1 i think...
totaly agree. i have tested so many 6,5 roms in the x1 and i always end up going back to 6.1 (pctech4u or touchX in my case). you have to be blind not to notice the difference
6.1 roms are smoother than 6.5 even on the touch diamond2
guess MS needs to tweak 6.5 before they finalize it
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and its good, not really as smooth as 6.1 i think...
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right from the horse's mouth
I've tried many ROMs and off course there might be a couple of bugs in wm6.5, because it's not released yet, but it's so much more touchfriendly.
So far the most outstanding wm6.5 ROMs to me are gtrab's r3.61 BB ROM and the latest Energy ROM, both perform very very good. They are both really smooth, especially looking back on the wm6.1 ROMs...
After testing Firestorm... NOWAY! 6.5 is better !!
For me wm 6.1
I like very much to "play" with wm 6.5 and valkirie Xperio is very nice but for day to day use I keep going back to Jack 3.x.
Absolutely no problem for me with that while with wm 6.5 I keep finding problems.
yeah, wm6.5 seem likes to hang a lot..
morgoth6 said:
IMHO 6.5 can be quite good, but maybe Im too old or something as I can not live with new start menu from 6.5 ... it's ugly like hell and definitly harder to use. I wonder is there a way to have normal old start menu with 6.5 ?
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You take the words from my mouth! I feel exactly the same, I would even go further and say the start menu in Wm 6.5 is a joke, I am amazed how a company with so much GUI experience could create it. But some people seem to like it..
Firestorm 6.5 ROM's for me are the best atm
I'm loving 6.5.
I just like to be testing the newest things.
There will be bugs, but they have lessened considerably.
Valkyrie ROM's have been great. I went from 2.4 and ran them all until 2.9.
Currently I'm on itje's Touch-it LEO III.
I just flash, tweak, re-flash....just like everyone here
6.1 roms will be more stable no doubt until 6.5 reaches final status.
Regards,
WC
Once you start using the latest crop of 6.5 [yes FireStorm 2.9 comes to mind] you cannot go back. The UI changes are fluid, kinetic and functional.
Honestly, I'll take a somewhat buggy 6.5, over a 'polished' 6.1 any day now
I am using The energy rom, and no way am i going back to 6.1. Simple reason, scrolling is lot more simple now, without having to use the stylus.
If you really rely on your phone for everyday business use, 6.1 is still better. Some of the newer 6.5 roms are very nice and work well, but they are much more unpredictable than a really solid 6.1 rom that's been tried and tested. Playing around on 6.5 is nice, but most of the 6.5 roms are too garish and colorful in my opinion, and they are just not as stable. People will try to argue, but if you had to pick a rom to get you through a crucial business day, I think most people would pick a 6.1 rom. Not just for stability, but also for battery life.
Energy and firestorm are both realy realy good 6.5 Roms.
the 230xx builds in general (beside 24,25 and propably 28) are both realy fast, stable and energy saving. previous 6.5 builds used to suck all somehow.
so currently i tend to say that 6.5 ROMs have reached thier usability stages. 6.1 is kinda out ^^
rogatsby said:
If you really rely on your phone for everyday business use, 6.1 is still better. Some of the newer 6.5 roms are very nice and work well, but they are much more unpredictable than a really solid 6.1 rom that's been tried and tested. Playing around on 6.5 is nice, but most of the 6.5 roms are too garish and colorful in my opinion, and they are just not as stable. People will try to argue, but if you had to pick a rom to get you through a crucial business day, I think most people would pick a 6.1 rom. Not just for stability, but also for battery life.
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some don't really care if the phone works, if the messages are sent correctly, if the phone rings on call, if the tone sounds on alert, if the alarm buzzes on time. some don't need a working phone and don't mind living with a partially working device.
but let's face it, not everyone are 22. well not anymore.

wm6.1 and manila 2.5

hello
as i surfing other phone threads i saw many WM 6.1- MANILA 2.5 cooked rom for X1 TP2 and diamond2 and... is there any thing for Blackstone ? as in my opinion WM6.1 is much much faster than WM6.5. I almost tried all wm6.5 roms but they are buggy and slower than WM6.1.
the only one for blackstone found is Miri Wm6.1 with manila 2.5 which is fast but rather old and it is DISCONTINUED!
The problem with the buggyness is not due to win 6.5 but Manila 2.5, the problems would be at least the same with 6.1.
I suggest u try some of the win 6.5 + manila 2.1 that there are around such as miri v30, they're very fast and very stable.
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the only one for blackstone found is Miri Wm6.1 with manila 2.5 which is fast but rather old and it is DISCONTINUED!
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Guess why? Because in contradiction to your opinion, almost everybody here regards WM 6.5 as fast, more user friendly, better looking, and bugfree.
As he said: Try 6.5 with Manila 2.1, because it is 2.5 that is slowing down things with the slow Touch HD processor, not 6.5.
yes . tried those V30 and V12 also. they are acceptable but not running smooth. I think Blackstone lack of drivers for WM6.5 causes that. they freezes randomly so not good for daily uses. I almost lost some of my important information using those roms but they are good things to experience things coming future! how ever I think manila 2.5 will run better on Blackstone. now I am switched to miri WM6.1 with manila 2.5 but the version of manila used there is older manila 2.5 one which is buggy and the rom is also discontinued.
-I am also thinking of overclocking the blackstone processor as the last solution since I damaged my htc prophet one because of overclocking
xborfi said:
...the only one for blackstone found is Miri Wm6.1 with manila 2.5 which is fast but rather old and it is DISCONTINUED!
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Why don't you try it. I'm using her for more than a month and I'm really quite happy. And, since I don't use Facebook nor Twitter, everything is working well. I can even send a 160 crt SMS that with all the others 6.5 Rom's wasn't possible.
At least for now, this is my Rom, and will be the backup Rom if I decide to restart flashing new ones.
Ciao
keopsjo said:
Why don't you try it. I'm using her for more than a month and I'm really quite happy. And, since I don't use Facebook nor Twitter, everything is working well. I can even send a 160 crt SMS that with all the others 6.5 Rom's wasn't possible.
At least for now, this is my Rom, and will be the backup Rom if I decide to restart flashing new ones.
Ciao
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for sure! I am now playing with this rom. its fast and smooth. manila is working as what it should be and smooth as i saw in the demo of HD2. however since this rom is discontinued the manila is rather old 2.5 one which having some problems. how ever i am now forget about some broken things and I am happy with this rom.
is miri V3.0 the only WM6.1 and Manila 2.5 available? is there is any other please provide me with the link. thanks
i am using toopix and it's the best. i tried all 6.5 with manilla 2.1 and 2.5 and always had to come back to toopix. i just need an application that does the work of footprint and it will be perfect.
khanem said:
i am using toopix and it's the best. i tried all 6.5 with manilla 2.1 and 2.5 and always had to come back to toopix. i just need an application that does the work of footprint and it will be perfect.
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I agree with you. All WM6.5 ROM I tried are slower then WM6.1 ones.
Now I'm using Miri's WM6.1 Manila2.5 and it's fast, very fast.
I have also update some packages. The only bugs I've are: Facebook and Footprints. Also the default WM6.1 is very bad... but I'm working on it to replace with a third part action screen.
ReX
i agree, it is fast but it is rather old and have some bugs
can some one upload the ROM file and post the link here? the one on the official thread doen not have any free user download slots left.
please
khanem said:
i am using toopix and it's the best. i tried all 6.5 with manilla 2.1 and 2.5 and always had to come back to toopix. i just need an application that does the work of footprint and it will be perfect.
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Hey, do you mind tell me which version you are using?
I'm using miri wm6.1 + Sense 2.5. I gotta say, I love WM6.1 better than 6.5. I find the battery life is better. Also, the speed is better than 6.5. I'm not saying 6.5 is slow, just 6.1 is faster than 6.5.
hey Jakkkk, Do u have the zip/rar file of the miri's ROM with you?
i can't find any working download link for the same..
the dedicated thread is closed as well
People still use 6.1? There is a reason noone puts 2.5 on 6.1
Its so OOOOLLLLDDD. Live in the NOW! once you go kinetic you can't go back! Once you made that move the next one is clear, once you go 6.5.1 + 2.5 there is definitely no going back! Unless you don't commend appearance or usability high on your list.....then you can stick with 6.1
MAN UP, PUT UP WITH THE EXTRA FEW MILISECOND LAG WITH 6.5x ROMS AND ENJOY THE AWESOMENESS!
I am a fellow topix follower, but I love the new 6.5.1 far too much to worry that it takes a few more miliseconds to do things. BOOHOO
P.S, do you still use windows 95? Cos its ALOT faster than xp, vista, and windows 7. I use windows 7 cos it looks god damn gorgeous (and way more features lol) - catch my drift?
I get ur point.. but i still wonder why u r still on HD, i am sure there alot of newer phones out alreday. HD is so OOOOLLLLDDD!!!
anyways, everybody choose whatever they are comfortable with. I'll request you to refrain yourself from passing such remarks(n making such posts) on what others choose. Let them live in the primitive era if they wish to.. Rest its up to u.
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hey Jakkkk, Do u have the zip/rar file of the miri's ROM with you?
i can't find any working download link for the same..
the dedicated thread is closed as well
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Please let me know if you still having trouble... I will upload to Megauploads for you
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Please let me know if you still having trouble... I will upload to Megauploads for you
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the twitter tab is not working on this ROM, i want manila 2.5 for that only.
else i m very happy with my current ROM

What do you think about the new WM 6.5 ROMs?

Hi, I decided to open this thread since I'm a bit disspointed with the new WM 6.5 and 6.5.1 ROMs for the Diamond and I would like to hear your pros and cons
As we know, there's not WM 6.5 official version for the HTC Diamond, that is a shame because the phone is not old!
Thanks to all of this programmers or "cookers" on this website we are able to run it, since is our wish, but we are warned of the downsides.
I flashed all the ROMs available, WM 6.1, 6.5 and 6.5.1 ...to be honest... 6.1 is well stable and fast, 6.5 looks nice and is amazing but is laggy and at the end of they day it always end up closing the program you are using if it runs out of memory, that is annoying if you are watching a video on youtube or checking the email right?
I used 6.5 for a month and I was really into it beause "it works", but with regret I went back to 6.1 due to the lack of memory and optimization for the device.
What is your experience so far with it?
Normally I much prefer official ROMs to cooked, which can be slow and unreliable. But I do want WM6.5. Maybe it's a matter of finding the right ROM.
Is there one available now (WM6.5, stable, bug free, not bloated) or should I wait? (This is something that will only be done once if at all.)
You can wait for a while, or flash all the available 6.5 ROMs and judge by yourself (I can't be bothered with the MTTY thing)
Personally, at the moment any of them don't perform quick and stable like 6.1 do
you might want to run benchmark tests
all benchmarking i did shown an increasse in performance in wm6.5.1 cooked roms in diamonds compared to stock rom.
cooked a rom and wm6.5.1 is better than 6.1 in terms of memory management and speed.
just cook your own rom and put in/remove stuff you dont like and optimize it.
Try these! (I did...) =)
Long have I've been a pro 6.1 user, but I always thought 6.5 looked more neat but with too many conn's to be actually everyday useable. Besides, AZTOR x2 ROM rocked! Also a lot of 6.5 ROM's didn't have any Diamond functionality.
Lately I've been trying 6.5.x ROM's again and currently I'm very pleased with Benko's ROM. It takes only 80Mb RAM max (Full ROM). He cooked lighter versions too, that even take less RAM. Also the ROM is fast, like really REALLY FAST, great responsiveness. Scrolling like the iPhone. Also very finger friendly.
I think if you want to consider 6.5 ROM's Benko is definitely a good candidate. I would recommend his 5.0 ROM to start with because I believe that's the most stable ROM.
Eugenia V1.02 WWE ROM is also a nice looking ROM with diamond features
the new 6.5.1 roms are much faster for me

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