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please help a newb out

I would like someone to explain to me in detail how to get the other lockscreen for fresh 2.0b i would like the non-sense one. someone tryed to explain to me that u need to use sdk. which i downloaded but i dont know what to do from there i unzipped onto my desktop now what?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+delete+htclockscreen

I would mind a guide as well. Or at least a confirmation that what I find on google works in 2.1 roms...

edit: i mean the nexus style lockscreen

I would say dont mess with it. Sounds like you are not sure what ADB is and haven't really done your reading.
There are ways to backup files and restore files to change the lockscreen. Hell, there is a thread on page 1 or 2 that talks specifically about lockscreens.
Please do some reading, the info is right in front of you.

i looked on the wiki guide but it really isnt detailed. i have no problem learning how to do this and really would like to but the guide isnt specific

jokerpt50 said:
i looked on the wiki guide but it really isnt detailed. i have no problem learning how to do this and really would like to but the guide isnt specific
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buy root explorer from the market and go to system/app/htclockscreen.apk and hold onto it and delete. after that then reboot

Agree
jokerpt50 said:
i looked on the wiki guide but it really isnt detailed. i have no problem learning how to do this and really would like to but the guide isnt specific
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I agree, I am fairly new to the Android and I was able to get through the initial steps of rooting it and flashing it however, I want to know the details.
Do I need to reinstall my programs every time or is there provxml like Windows Mobile had?
I partitioned my SD Card because the option is there but what is it for? Why is there a need to adb push some items vs just copying data directory on the card from the usb connection.
Why can't I get Live Wallpapers to work even when I disable Sense UI via home switcher?
The Wiki is great for some of the how's but I am missing some of the why's. And where I can go. Then if you go to a thread, the people on the thread are usually pass the point I wanna know and refer to it in passing.
Sorry OP, I don't have an answer to your question, but just many questions of my own. Now, I admit I could have missed the information somewhere on here but usually that kind of thing is sticked but this forum chooses not to use Stickies.
Thanks for any help you've got.

Not sure what to tell you. The information is here for you to read. There are a ton of devs on this board that are doing a ton of stuff most of us dont know. This is a development forum, meaning they are de-compiling tweaking and recompiling. What you are looking for is a 101 class but these discussions are mostly 501 material.
Android is based on Linux. If you know that you have a leg up.
If you find a guide that teaches how to understand this stuff, please share it with all of us. Most of what these guys are doing is from lots and lots of experience and lots and lots of trail and error.
Hell, there are people that have gone to the lengths to write countless guides on rooting, pushing and pulling files, hell there is even a guide on how to compile your own ROM.
The information is there. Lots of it I don't understand either, so I sit back and try to answer what I can answer, most of which is just posting an answer someone else posted and I read because I have read a LOT!!!.

KwestJones said:
Do I need to reinstall my programs every time or is there provxml like Windows Mobile had?
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It depends. Don't know what that program is. There are backup programs that you can buy that will do backups. You only lose your apps when you do a wipe. Please read more and understand what you are doing before you do it.
KwestJones said:
I partitioned my SD Card because the option is there but what is it for? Why is there a need to adb push some items vs just copying data directory on the card from the usb connection.
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Now you are setup for apps2sd. I don't use it, I don't like it. I don't know if you can go back without reformating your SD card.
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Why can't I get Live Wallpapers to work even when I disable Sense UI via home switcher?
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If you are asking about LWP, then you are running a 2.x ROM but have not read the entire thread about that ROM. Please search that thread for Live or LWP etc.
KwestJones said:
The Wiki is great for some of the how's but I am missing some of the why's. And where I can go. Then if you go to a thread, the people on the thread are usually pass the point I wanna know and refer to it in passing.
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You will have a very hard time getting answers to any "why" type question when dealing with programming. Most of the time I get from my devs is "why not" or "cause that's what I felt like that day"
KwestJones said:
Sorry OP, I don't have an answer to your question, but just many questions of my own. Now, I admit I could have missed the information somewhere on here but usually that kind of thing is sticked but this forum chooses not to use Stickies.
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There is a guides stickie, a rom stickie. Not sure what else you are looking for.
My advice, if you do not know what you are doing, dont do it. Dont flash a radio unless you know what that will do. Keep reading until you understand what you are about to do.

i tryed using root explorer app and hold then delete but it says it is a read only file and can not be deleted?

I agree with a lot of the posts I have seen so far regarding the information existing and having to spend the time to find it. It was a bear for me to figure out how to sign zip files so that i could customize ROMs, but after spending nearly 6 hours going from one site to another and one thread to another, I finally pieced it together and can sign zips. In the meantime, i also learned a lot of other things too because as someone else mentioned here, a lot of times a thread is full of stuff, but only references something that they might be interested in at that particular moment.
Unfortunately, this is an advanced forum and lots of the people on here have taken the time to learn things by just "putting in the time"... You need to do the same thing and use search 5 ways from sunday to find what you want... if 10 pages into a 50 page thread you haven't found what you want, you still need to finish the last 40 pages, click all the links in the threads and make sure you've searched things in that thread that you can't find after finishing it... then you do it all over again on another thread.
Guides are nice, but if everyone spent time making guides, development of ROMs etc. would suffer as this is not easy stuff until you figure it out and make it work and there is no truly easy way to make a guide that is multi-faceted.
Maybe if you learn things on your own, you can piece together all the different places you found the pieces you needed to do what you wanted and create the guide...
R

Thank you
Bielinsk said:
It depends. Don't know what that program is. There are backup programs that you can buy that will do backups. You only lose your apps when you do a wipe. Please read more and understand what you are doing before you do it.
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Programs like Google Maps, like Google Voice, like Google Goggle, like Advanced Task killers...standard programs that I would want to have on my phone everytime I flash a new ROM. The two ROMs I've had both required wipes.
Bielinsk said:
Now you are setup for apps2sd. I don't use it, I don't like it. I don't know if you can go back without reformating your SD card.
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Now if its title implicates its meaning, I think it might be answer to the question up above, but I haven't been able to find an explanation of what it is. Maybe that's my impatience. I did look in the guides on the WIKI and although there is an explanation about how to switch an Apps2SD card, there is no explanation of what it is or how to use it.
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If you are asking about LWP, then you are running a 2.x ROM but have not read the entire thread about that ROM. Please search that thread for Live or LWP etc.
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You are right. I didn't read the 37 pages about the ROM. I did look in the guides on the WIKI and that's not there either.
Bielinsk said:
You will have a very hard time getting answers to any "why" type question when dealing with programming. Most of the time I get from my devs is "why not" or "cause that's what I felt like that day"
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Don't get me wrong. I don't want to reverse engineer the code. I do wanna know why I need to, for example, partition my card to use Apps2SD. I do want to know why I need to adb push.
Bielinsk said:
There is a guides stickie, a rom stickie. Not sure what else you are looking for.
My advice, if you do not know what you are doing, dont do it. Dont flash a radio unless you know what that will do. Keep reading until you understand what you are about to do.
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I guess that's the answer to the question. Keep reading. I was looking for a compilation and summary. I guess I'll just have to get busy reading and updating the wiki myself.
Thanks

jokerpt50 said:
i tryed using root explorer app and hold then delete but it says it is a read only file and can not be deleted?
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You have to press the {R/W} button on the top of the screen first. Stands for Read/Write, when done press it again so it says {R/O} Read/Only

Joker,
I'm willing to try to walk you through it step-by-step if you want me to. Are you running Windows? If so, have you downloaded Android SDK Windows? Once you've downloaded that, put it in the C:\ directory of your hard drive and let me know. I'll try to make this in plain English. I'm rather new to Android myself, but this is a rather simple task if you have someone willing to explain it to you. I'll give it a shot.

Please connect your phone and select the HTC Sync option. I forgot to mention in the previous post that you should have the most recent HTC driver installed on your computer. If you have HTC Sync installed, you should have the driver too. When you connect your phone and select HTC Sync, it will search for Sync but not find it. This is ok, just acknowledge the prompt on your phone.
Next, open the Command Prompt. One way to do this is to go to the Start Menu ---> Run and type: cmd
This should open the Command Prompt in a new window. Next type each of the following lines into the Command Prompt and press Enter at the end of each line.
cd c:\android-sdk-windows\tools
adb remount
adb shell
cd /system/app/
rm HtcLockScreen*
exit
adb reboot
Once you press enter after the reboot, your phone should reboot with the Android 2.1 lockscreen. If you have any questions or problems, feel free to ask. I'll try to check back and answer whatever I can. Good luck.

i got it to work thanks so much everyone for your help!

Should I update to 2.1 or use a rom or something..help please.

I've had my hero for about 2.5 months, and so far I like it, but as I'm sure everyone knows it gets really slow and laggy, and the battery life is about the worst of any phone I've ever had.
I'm a noob, but I've been lurking around here, looking at all the "rom" and "kernel" things, which looks like it can make the phone pretty sweet, but I dont have ANY idea how to go about using these.
If theres a way for someone to suggest to me what would be a good option for me I would REALLY appreciate it.
I'm a light user by the way. I use my phone for texting, calling, web and playing with some apps and stuff, but thats about it. I dont use all the social networking crap, and this phone doesnt run my business or anything.

Okay, I think I've decide to root my phone, and use a custom rom. I think. Unless someone can advise me a better way.

Sktr021 said:
Okay, I think I've decide to root my phone, and use a custom rom. I think. Unless someone can advise me a better way.
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No, it's a good idea.
Just make sure you read and re-read it all so you know what you're doing.

what guide would you suggest using. Theres one on here with a corresponding youtube vid.. I was thinking about using that one.
And how exactly do I go about choosing a rom?
I'm sorry for the noob questions.

Use this method to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
It's easy, and all steps are very detailed so you can't screw up.
As far as choosing a ROM, you have to decide if you like A) Sense UI or B) vanilla android. I will only list some popular ones that I know of.
A) If you like Sense, do you like heavily themed?
no: check out the Sprint 2.27.651.6 STOCK Deoxed or DamageControl
some themes/mods: check out Fresh ROM
yes: not really familiar with these
B) If you like vanilla android look
check out Darchdroid

Im getting stuck on step 13 of theresthatguys guide...its giving me a permission denied every time I try..help please

still cant get around it...
when I use the command abd push recovery-RA-heroc-v1.5.2.img /sdcard it gives me failed to copy, permission denied...as far as I can tell thats the recovery thats supposed to be added to root of sd card...what should I do.

noone? I'm stuck. I tried to use the 1.6.1 version instead, its giving me the same prompt.

Success!!! After a few scary moments (triangle with a picture of my apparently dead phone) it worked.

Ready to Root CDMA HERO need help

I would like to root my CDMA HERO *NO* experience and have some concerns/questions. I’ve read trough How to root the CDMA Hero threads by nugget832, chuckhriczko and info is great but it seems every step i want to try it seems there is a post how above does not work anymore.
1. What is most current way of backing up my current stock Rom in case I screw up?
2. What is best root mod’s available that will allow me to have full function of my phone ( camera, mms,….ex? Where do I find most up to date mod’s ?
3. What is best/easy way of uploading this mod?
sorry for being a noob!

mongolx said:
I would like to root my CDMA HERO *NO* experience and have some concerns/questions. I’ve read trough How to root the CDMA Hero threads by nugget832, chuckhriczko and info is great but it seems every step i want to try it seems there is a post how above does not work anymore.
1. What is most current way of backing up my current stock Rom in case I screw up?
2. What is best root mod’s available that will allow me to have full function of my phone ( camera, mms,….ex? Where do I find most up to date mod’s ?
3. What is best/easy way of uploading this mod?
sorry for being a noob!
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Google search, is the first place to start... or forum search the Android Development thread.
Plenty of '1-click' root options exist. I've never used them, but I know one is called z4root. Search for it. There are other options again in the Dev section of these forums. You'll also need to install the HTC Sync software for the USB drivers that are included with it.
Everything goes on your SDcard. I guess that is what you mean by 'uploading'. Also, If at anytime you mess up, you can return to 'stock' by running what is called an RUU found on HTC's website htc.com. It's run from Windows.
The basic root part is simple anymore, however you'll end up needing an understand of several things to proceed further and make the most out of your phone. You'll need to know at least: basic linux and/or windows command prompt commands, how to install the Google SDK and obtain ADB after it's installed, and having a basic understand of how computers work both hardware and software wise.
Last but not least. Read. Don't be lazy. Read, Google, read some more. A good place to start is a well kept wiki: http://romrepo.info/wiki.
Lastly, for real this time, since you state that you have no clue what you are doing, stop and think. Do you really want to do this? Can I go without my phone for a while if I mess it up?
P.S. Lastly, for really real this time, there is a sticky in the Dev forum up top with some video how-to guides that might help some too.

Did u tell'm bout the wiki?
sirmx said:
Google search, is the first place to start... or forum search the Android Development thread.
Plenty of '1-click' root options exist. I've never used them, but I know one is called z4root. Search for it. There are other options again in the Dev section of these forums. You'll also need to install the HTC Sync software for the USB drivers that are included with it.
Everything goes on your SDcard. I guess that is what you mean by 'uploading'. Also, If at anytime you mess up, you can return to 'stock' by running what is called an RUU found on HTC's website htc.com. It's run from Windows.
The basic root part is simple anymore, however you'll end up needing an understand of several things to proceed further and make the most out of your phone. You'll need to know at least: basic linux and/or windows command prompt commands, how to install the Google SDK and obtain ADB after it's installed, and having a basic understand of how computers work both hardware and software wise.
Last but not least. Read. Don't be lazy. Read, Google, read some more. A good place to start is a well kept wiki: http://romrepo.info/wiki.
Lastly, for real this time, since you state that you have no clue what you are doing, stop and think. Do you really want to do this? Can I go without my phone for a while if I mess it up?
P.S. Lastly, for really real this time, there is a sticky in the Dev forum up top with some video how-to guides that might help some too.
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Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

Thank you, got new rom and overclocked :O

[Rum Float] First flash ever, a bit nervous

I'd like to flash my Vivid with the new Rum Float ROM and from what I gather; now that a RUU is available it should be fairly easy. I.bought the phone last Thursday and haven't had a chance to grab a SD card. I just want to make sure that I fully understand the process involved. I've read a number of posts here at XDA and elsewhere but I still have a few questions to make sure my knowledge is solid and I don't end up with an HTC paperweight! A) Will the Android market will have a record of what I have already dl'd so I can dl it again? B) Is using the RUU executable fairly simple? Should I do the BL UL before I restore?(I would like root, so I'm assuming that this is one of the first steps!) C) Is it a simple follow the instructions sort of thing with the RUU? D) Will "frigid's" "supertool" method to get root work in this instance or do I need to use CWM? E) I'm using an AT&T Vivid could somebody give me a simple step by step(not in detail, but if you could that would be great!) Such as "1- Do BL UL, 2- Run supertool for root, 3 - Run RUU, etc, etc, etc
Also there appears to be a sense and a NONSense version of the ROM, are they both included in the RUU exe file? And for the NONSense version will there be any difference in stability, performance, you acceleration, etc?
Thanks for any info in advanced!
-MeeGz-

MeeGz said:
I'd like to flash my Vivid with the new Rum Float ROM and from what I gather; now that a RUU is available it should be fairly easy. I.bought the phone last Thursday and haven't had a chance to grab a SD card. I just want to make sure that I fully understand the process involved. I've read a number of posts here at XDA and elsewhere but I still have a few questions to make sure my knowledge is solid and I don't end up with an HTC paperweight! A) Will the Android market will have a record of what I have already dl'd so I can dl it again? B) Is using the RUU executable fairly simple? Should I do the BL UL before I restore?(I would like root, so I'm assuming that this is one of the first steps!) C) Is it a simple follow the instructions sort of thing with the RUU? D) Will "frigid's" "supertool" method to get root work in this instance or do I need to use CWM? E) I'm using an AT&T Vivid could somebody give me a simple step by step(not in detail, but if you could that would be great!) Such as "1- Do BL UL, 2- Run supertool for root, 3 - Run RUU, etc, etc, etc
Also there appears to be a sense and a NONSense version of the ROM, are they both included in the RUU exe file? And for the NONSense version will there be any difference in stability, performance, you acceleration, etc?
Thanks for any info in advanced!
-MeeGz-
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The RUU DOES NOT CONTAIN MY ROM. It is an official tool used by HTC for upgrading and returning to stock.
Android market will keep tabs on purchased apps. It will not keep track of free apps.
You need an sdcard to keep safe.
The RUU is easy to run. Its just an exe. Follow the on-screen prompts.
I don't know what you are trying to restore but it would appear you have your terminology and methods all mixed up.
RUU will get you a stock ics. And it will wipe your apps and settings. It will act like a phone you just pulled out of the box with ics.
In order to run rum float (or any aftermarket rom) you need to unlock your bootloader. Rooting has nothing to do with it. Unlock bl then flash recovery on then flash rom and kernel.
Your steps as you perceive them are slightly off. I don't recommend you do anything to your phone right now.

After you complete the RUU you'd have to go to htc.dev and unlock your bootloader. After you can fastboot flash a recovery and CWM with root. After that's complete you can flash a rom of your choice. I'd get familiar with using fastboot commands in ADB (command prompt). I guess you can use the supertool to root but it isn't necessary really a matter of preference. Check out the superguide. Maybe PG or someone can update it with specific steps if you are using the RUU but the process is the same. It starts with the unlocking the bootloader. Definitely pick up an SD card!

Thanks for the quick replies and the clarification. I think I get it now, I would do the following to get to a rooted custom ICS Rom: Unlock the boot loader, root and run titanium backup to save my apps(using an ad card), run the RUU and get to stock HTC ics, copy ROM to sd card, re-root, download and run CWM, root again and restore apps with titanium backup, enjoy!
The only things that may be a bit off in that process is running the RUU as I don't need that to just flash a custom ROM, assuming said ROM includes the ICS kernel. If did have to use the RUU would I have to re-root to run cwm? Also the actual ROM itself is installed from HBoot, correct?
Sorry if these sound like dumb questions, I'm just new at this. I really appreciate the replies. I'm sure I will pick this up fairly quickly as I have years of linux & OS X command line experience and am well versed with c. It's just kind of information overload on this board as there is such a wealth and variety of info here!
Thanks again,
-MeeGz-

So you can run the ruu.exe even if you are rooted, unlocked bootloader, on att stock? Or do you have have to relock bootloader to proceed with the ruu?
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA

RUU is for stock roms IIRC. If you are rooted and already unlocked I'd use the original method PG and Thecubed created.

back on my computer for a little better explanation.
the RUU or the methods that thecubed and i have laid out will get you the necessary HBOOT/RADIO/etc that you will need to flash a custom ICS rom
either method will get you the same thing....an updated HBOOT and ICS
if you run the bootloader unlock tool from htcdev, YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR SETTINGS! it will wipe the device like its brand new......do NOT include this in your dreams of getting backups prior to flashing a custom rom....
please just read through the posts and understand what is going on.
in order for ICS to happen on your vivid you need the new HBOOT, Radio, and various other components that the RUU/PH39IMG contain
there are 3 different roads you can follow to get there, the EASIEST being just run the RUU (WHICH WILL ALSO WIPE SETTINGS!), afterwards, reboot to bootloader, unlock bootloader, reboot to fastboot, fastboot flash the boot.img and the recovery.img of your choice on (limited on boot.img's at the moment, better use the one from the rom), reboot to recovery and flash the rom
the other methods imply you understand somewhat how the process works.
relock bootloader (if unlocked), run PH39IMG install, unlock bootloader, fastboot flash recovery and boot.img, reboot to recovery and flash rom.....
if you wrap your head around HOW it works, its all really simple....so the first step is understanding HOW it works, not blindly following some tutorial or walkthrough.
please try to LEARN and UNDERSTAND what it is you are doing....
PS. you have involved ROOTING too many times in your post...... the rom is already ROOTED, you dont have to ROOT to unlock, flash rom or anything....ROOTING is only applicable INSIDE the booted OPERATING SYSTEM, and has nothing to do with recovery/bootloader

i feel i need to apologize to the board here.
frustrations were not directed at the OP of this thread, just in general....
i have been inundated with PM's and seeing the same barrage of questions for the last few days on the forum....
i can understand everyone's excitement...hell i was excited to get this too.
but you all need to read, and try to take it all in before attempting anything. sometimes those of us that understand whats going on, dont explain in a whole lot of detail, because we take the knowledge for granted, and assume if you are on this site, you are here to learn. it is frustrating to see the same questions pop up on nearly an hourly basis...
all i ask is that you take forth the effort to learn how these tools of ours work and understand that a lot of us working on things like this rely on you guys to assist each other in the process. that leaves us more time to deal with what we need to deal with and try and fix and squash bugs/processes/etc.
in return i apologize if i seem on edge the last couple of days...its because i am. if you can imagine one question multiplied by a hundred.....and having people freaking out about them 'bricking'.....after being warned its possible, but unlikely. i think most of these 'bricks' are salvageable and just require someone that understands how they work.
sorry to seem like an ass, but mainly its because i am an ass, and i have a hard time being nice most of the time.

Thanks pirateghost. I understand how to do the other methods but wanted to use something less complicated with less risk for user error. I read and read everything that is posted on the forums. I try not to ask a question unless I am not understanding what has been posted. Thanks for your patience and understanding.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA

PG, so im pretty sure i "bricked" it lol. im not upset as it was entirely my fault, just wondering if there is any way to get this mother to turn on? i know that when i plug it into the computer it recognizes it but not as anything i have seen lol..if i can find the correct drivers can this be reversed?

Thanks
Thanks to PG for everything and the instructions. I thought I had bricked my phone, but theCube was able to help me on IRC, which is where I suggest anybody go for real-time assistance.

This could off all been avoided with step by step Detail instruction. Why? Well example , I don't follow this forum at all never had an HTC phone but my wife's phone the vivid. All my phone has been Nexus and the galaxy line from Samsung, things over there are a bit different. All I did was flash the ph.img and then after not seen the device reboot I wipe/factory reset and all when to hell from there. Couldn't unlock the bootloader or reboot the phone. How could this happen? Assuming that people should know the basic is wrong. I'm not in any way blaming anyone I did this own my on risk but at the same time I'm super mad had to buy a new phone. As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares.
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Dxtra said:
As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares
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As a user, you should understand the risks/benefits of the things you download. The devs are under no obligation to keep you from bricking your phone, and to be fair, most everything is covered in the Superguide and the various ROM threads. Even if someone were to post a file called NOT_A_VIRUS.EXE and you downloaded it and it wiped your computer when you ran it, the responsibility is squarely on your shoulders.
As far as I remember, there is no dev/user contract and they're not getting paid for any of this.

Dxtra said:
As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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oh?
am i being paid to do a job here?
i gave instructions based on how *I* got it to work and duplicated the procedure several times. so its MY responsibility to try and find a way to brick my phone for you?
an RUU cant brick your phone.....however, being a retard can.
this is the type of attitude i would expect my boss to have, if i screwed up a project....but alas, i am here out of my own free will.....
if this is how you feel, then you should get the F off this site.

formicae said:
As a user, you should understand the risks/benefits of the things you download. The devs are under no obligation to keep you from bricking your phone, and to be fair, most everything is covered in the Superguide and the various ROM threads. Even if someone were to post a file called NOT_A_VIRUS.EXE and you downloaded it and it wiped your computer when you ran it, the responsibility is squarely on your shoulders.
As far as I remember, there is no dev/user contract and they're not getting paid for any of this.
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I totally 100% agree with you. If you HAVE taken the time to read and are still a bit confused, ask! For me I'm not even a week into this platform and I WILL NOT do anything that I don't entirely understand. The problem with android, if you could even call it a problem, is that there is such a huge variety of handsets and a big variety methods for doing this, that, and the other thing. It basically results in a non-linear process to get from point A to point B. It's imperative to understand the basic proceedures. If you were here since the G1, great, you've been able to.follow things from the start. I've used iOS for years, and I still love it btw.(only jailbroken of course!) I'll probably buy an iPad 3! The software is integrated with the hardware amazingly well, battery life is phenomenal, and ONCE JAILBROKEN, iOS is an excellent platform. Sure the "spec numbers" may not be as high but it boils down to.performance. That has always been great for me, obviously battery life is exceptional on apple devices as well. I'm hoping with a rooted ICS Rom there won't be cpu-time hogging processes and ill be able to adjust other things accordingly to get somewhat better battery life. I really wish each OEM would take the time to optimize the SW that they're using to the HW that they're selling. B/C from what I've seen the "Nexus" devices generally perform extremely well, even.against higher spec'd devices. So far I'm loving Android and my Vivid. I love the freedom that I get even on a non-rooted device! It's an excellent platform. Flexible, dynamic, and personal. Customization is there from the get-go. There are a million different things that one could do, even while staying un-rooted. The only reason that I've waited so long to get on board with android is ibwas waiting for it to grow and mature, if I could have a device that tri-booted Android, iOS, and WebOS I'd be a very happy person. I love using multiple platforms.
PG - I'm sorry if I bothered you, thanks for the great info though!
I think knowledge-wise I'm at a point where I'm not going to brick my phone. Wish me luck!

Pirateghost said:
oh?
am i being paid to do a job here?
i gave instructions based on how *I* got it to work and duplicated the procedure several times. so its MY responsibility to try and find a way to brick my phone for you?
an RUU cant brick your phone.....however, being a retard can.
this is the type of attitude i would expect my boss to have, if i screwed up a project....but alas, i am here out of my own free will.....
if this is how you feel, then you should get the F off this site.
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Seriously if that is how you feel do get the f*ck off this site please. The devs in all mobile hacking communities are unpaid and do it for fun. You sir are a prime example of WHY THEY LEAVE!!! IF YOU DON'T KNOW AND HAVE READ, ASK, DON'T BE A ****!!!

Dxtra said:
This could off all been avoided with step by step Detail instruction. Why? Well example , I don't follow this forum at all never had an HTC phone but my wife's phone the vivid. All my phone has been Nexus and the galaxy line from Samsung, things over there are a bit different. All I did was flash the ph.img and then after not seen the device reboot I wipe/factory reset and all when to hell from there. Couldn't unlock the bootloader or reboot the phone. How could this happen? Assuming that people should know the basic is wrong. I'm not in any way blaming anyone I did this own my on risk but at the same time I'm super mad had to buy a new phone. As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares.
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REALLY? You want the UNNPAID DEV'S TO REMOVE ALL THREATS?!?!?! FROM WHAT IS BASICALLY OSS AND A FIRMWARE THAT SOMEBODY DL'D? REALLY? These guys take a FW and cook it into a ROM for FREE and just b/c you didn't take the time to understand it you're gonna put it on them? WTF?!?!?!?

i'll make him a deal. next time we get a hold of something like this, i will let him figure out how to get it on his phone....i don't have to share how...

Dxtra said:
This could off all been avoided with step by step Detail instruction. Why? Well example , I don't follow this forum at all never had an HTC phone but my wife's phone the vivid. All my phone has been Nexus and the galaxy line from Samsung, things over there are a bit different. All I did was flash the ph.img and then after not seen the device reboot I wipe/factory reset and all when to hell from there. Couldn't unlock the bootloader or reboot the phone. How could this happen? Assuming that people should know the basic is wrong. I'm not in any way blaming anyone I did this own my on risk but at the same time I'm super mad had to buy a new phone. As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares.
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You know, its users like you that get Devs frustrated and not want to share the work that they have accomplished. XDA is a site for Devs, its not a WalMart that people can stop by and expect to be spoonfed and be on their merry way. Pirateghost is a very talented Dev who wanted to share something with this community, and instead of saying "thank you" you decide to look a the glass as half empty instead of half full and EXPECT MORE from him?
Reading your post, it tells me that you dont frequent the HTC forums at all, and instead of reading up, you just decided to flash. Just because it didnt go as smoothly as you thought it would is NO REASON to tell a Dev that they needed to do more. That part lays on you.
Next time you decide to tell a Dev that "they need to do more" I think you need to do more reading so it prevents you from having to buy a new phone. If it dosent make sense to you or you dont think theres enough documentation/step-by-step instructions YOU HAVE THE POWER TO SAY NO AND NOT FLASH IT.

Uh, there's a reason every single solitary dev puts a disclaimer on their ROM threads. Their work, if directions are not followed to the letter can turn your device into a +/- 200$ paperweight. I've been lurking around these forums for a hot minute, rarely post ( not an ounce of dev skill being the main reason), and really, when's the last time a dev didn't post at least semi detailed instructions to go along with his/her OP.
@pirateghost- bought a vivid literally 12 hours ago, got home, saw your thread, FOLLOWED THE DIRECTIONS CAREFULLY, and now have ICS on my device. Just wanted to say thanks.
And now for the most epic noob question of all time. Wth is RUU? I'm very familiar with flashing roms, cam, tibu, etc from my days on the sgsII SR forums. So most if not all HTC terminology is new to me.
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[Q] Root M7 but Maintain HTC ROM (Lollipop 5.0.2/Sense 6.0)

Hi everyone. I'm new to the forum; this is my first post.
I have an M7 on a stock HTC/AT&T ROM running Lollipop 5.0.2 with Sense 6.0.
I would like to root the device so that I can do things like eliminate ads, remove bloatware, run more advanced software, etc., but I do not want to loose things like Beats Audio/Boom Sound. So I'm thinking I just want to stick with the stock AT&T/HTC M7 ROM.
I have seen reference to the Sunshine App, but unless someone can tell me it does something absolutely magical for the one-use $25 payment they expect, I'm fine doing it the free way. I got the impression about Sunshine that it doesn't actually get you all the way to root. If it got me all the way and saved my data/apps, too, I'd be all over it.
Can someone please give me the full path of steps I need to go through to get this done? I'm not a dumb guy. Pretty computer savvy, actually, but there is a lot of jargon and intermediate steps that seem to be involved in all of this. Some of the videos I'm seeing are quite dated at this point, and I have to wonder if they are relevant to an AT&T M7 on Lollipop a this point. But I thrive on step-by-step tutorials, so if you guys point me to the right videos or written tutorials, I should be fine.
Any suggestion on the best way to backup my device would be appreciated, too. I understand I'm going to get all my data and programs wiped somewhere along the path.
Thank you!

djMot said:
Hi everyone. I'm new to the forum; this is my first post.
I have an M7 on a stock HTC/AT&T ROM running Lollipop 5.0.2 with Sense 6.0.
I would like to root the device so that I can do things like eliminate ads, remove bloatware, run more advanced software, etc., but I do not want to loose things like Beats Audio/Boom Sound. So I'm thinking I just want to stick with the stock AT&T/HTC M7 ROM.
I have seen reference to the Sunshine App, but unless someone can tell me it does something absolutely magical for the one-use $25 payment they expect, I'm fine doing it the free way. I got the impression about Sunshine that it doesn't actually get you all the way to root. If it got me all the way and saved my data/apps, too, I'd be all over it.
Can someone please give me the full path of steps I need to go through to get this done? I'm not a dumb guy. Pretty computer savvy, actually, but there is a lot of jargon and intermediate steps that seem to be involved in all of this. Some of the videos I'm seeing are quite dated at this point, and I have to wonder if they are relevant to an AT&T M7 on Lollipop a this point. But I thrive on step-by-step tutorials, so if you guys point me to the right videos or written tutorials, I should be fine.
Any suggestion on the best way to backup my device would be appreciated, too. I understand I'm going to get all my data and programs wiped somewhere along the path.
Thank you!
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Flash TWRP 2.8.5.0
fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-2.8.5.0-m7.img
fastboot erase cache
fastboot reboot-bootloader
/ enter recovery
Exit recovery choose yes to Root
when the phone boots up go to the SuperSU Icon in the app drawer
it will ask to update / choose TWRP
after it reboots your rooted

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just posted this for someone else
Flash TWRP 2.8.5.0
fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-2.8.5.0-m7.img
fastboot erase cache
fastboot reboot-bootloader
/ enter recovery
Exit recovery choose yes to Root
when the phone boots up go to the SuperSU Icon in the app drawer
it will ask to update / choose TWRP
after it reboots your rooted
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Thanks, but I think you are making a few too many assumptions that I understand what your saying.
I don't think I can just flash twrp before unlocking the bootloader, am I right? And I have no clue how to flash twrp, how to set up to do that, and what to have where. I can do the steps if I know what they are. So I really am looking for a pretty explicit set of steps. You've given me some steps, yes, and thank you for that(!!), but I think you're coming from a position of already knowing exactly what you are doing and all the ramifications of each and every step you would take, so by the time it gets to me it just sounds like the cliffs notes and I'm still wondering what the novel is about.
And, yes, I get that some of you here answer these kinds of noobie questions a lot, and it just gets tedious repeating yourselves. Unfortunately for us noobies who come looking to the experts for the straight-up how-to, the responses all seem like "just do this, do that" without any discussion of how to do this and how to do that. I've read several "how do I root my phone" threads here, but the answers all seem just a little to Greekish to me, and to others too I would imagine. The video tutorials here were recorded back when the M7 was brand new and there's no indication at all whether updates along the way to present day have altered the process, or whether there is a safer, better way after all this time. I have no idea if they are relevant today.
I get that I'm asking a lot for such an old device, but I would really appreciate a little of a tutorial approach.
Thanks very much.

djMot said:
Thanks, but I think you are making a few too many assumptions that I understand what your saying.
I don't think I can just flash twrp before unlocking the bootloader, am I right? And I have no clue how to flash twrp, how to set up to do that, and what to have where. I can do the steps if I know what they are. So I really am looking for a pretty explicit set of steps. You've given me some steps, yes, and thank you for that(!!), but I think you're coming from a position of already knowing exactly what you are doing and all the ramifications of each and every step you would take, so by the time it gets to me it just sounds like the cliffs notes and I'm still wondering what the novel is about.
And, yes, I get that some of you here answer these kinds of noobie questions a lot, and it just gets tedious repeating yourselves. Unfortunately for us noobies who come looking to the experts for the straight-up how-to, the responses all seem like "just do this, do that" without any discussion of how to do this and how to do that. I've read several "how do I root my phone" threads here, but the answers all seem just a little to Greekish to me, and to others too I would imagine. The video tutorials here were recorded back when the M7 was brand new and there's no indication at all whether updates along the way to present day have altered the process, or whether there is a safer, better way after all this time. I have no idea if they are relevant today.
I get that I'm asking a lot for such an old device, but I would really appreciate a little of a tutorial approach.
Thanks very much.
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Yeah, that's not going to happen
Read the FAQ >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2228274
and the So you came at XDA-Developers to find help
If your still stuck after that then ask questions.
Hint: I described all the steps in post 2 above

djMot said:
Thanks, but I think you are making a few too many assumptions that I understand what your saying.
I don't think I can just flash twrp before unlocking the bootloader, am I right? And I have no clue how to flash twrp, how to set up to do that, and what to have where. I can do the steps if I know what they are. So I really am looking for a pretty explicit set of steps. You've given me some steps, yes, and thank you for that(!!), but I think you're coming from a position of already knowing exactly what you are doing and all the ramifications of each and every step you would take, so by the time it gets to me it just sounds like the cliffs notes and I'm still wondering what the novel is about.
And, yes, I get that some of you here answer these kinds of noobie questions a lot, and it just gets tedious repeating yourselves. Unfortunately for us noobies who come looking to the experts for the straight-up how-to, the responses all seem like "just do this, do that" without any discussion of how to do this and how to do that. I've read several "how do I root my phone" threads here, but the answers all seem just a little to Greekish to me, and to others too I would imagine. The video tutorials here were recorded back when the M7 was brand new and there's no indication at all whether updates along the way to present day have altered the process, or whether there is a safer, better way after all this time. I have no idea if they are relevant today.
I get that I'm asking a lot for such an old device, but I would really appreciate a little of a tutorial approach.
Thanks very much.
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Hi,
I know its 2019, four years since you posted this request, but I just pulled my HTC One M7 AT&T after 3 years and had the exact same query and needed a way to ensure that steps mentioned in posts like these in 2015 are still relevant/applicable on our device running Android 5.0.2 with HTC Sense 6.
I was looking to have a device specific tutorial to finally make the plunge to install a custom ROM (someone ported Android 10 to this device!) , but remember there being some complexities back in the day to do this on our device. Were you able to get around this? Look forward to your response.
Thanks & regards,
Deepesh