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Rogers Dream vs. HTC Dream (normal?) + noob me.

Alright.
Seriously, whats the deal with the Rogers Dream and the normal Dream? I dont get the difference. Please explain some in detail.
The only thing I've been reading for a while is the DRE2100 or something compared to the normal thing.
seriously. What is rooting?
I have a Rogers Dream and I really want to know where to start playing around with it.
Its sad however that I have to look for threads with "Rogers" tagged on it.
previously, I had an HTC Kaiser, and I played around/flashed it a LOT. and I moved on to a Rogers Dream, I've had it for quite a while, just didn't know where to start.
Thanks

Theres a few minor differences between the 2. The main one is the frequency it runs on. But to get you started understanding everything this is what you need to look at.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519523

Alright. I am so. tired of looking up stuff. I'm not going to do anything yet.
I barely get anything.
What is root for?
what is it used for?
I have used Ubuntu and Fedora a couple of times but, seriously, root was just a command really.
After I root. then what?
Also. I was wondering. can Rogers ever be converted into the DREAM100/DREAM110?. i dont know, just wondering. If that was possible, It would make things very simple for people like me.

I believe that dream100/110 are boards so they could never be converted.
Root is basicly in windows terms- the admin, getting root allows you su like the sudo command in linux. Having root allows you to flash custom roms, nandroid backup, themes, allow deeper hardware access, full privs to the kernel processes of the system, allowing apps to sd, allow you to wipe or activate gps from sms, dentonate nuclear warheads, so on and so on
Have I answer the ? Sufficently enough yet
Oh and root on linux is the same thing and not just a command

da pavinator said:
Alright. I am so. tired of looking up stuff. I'm not going to do anything yet.
I barely get anything.
What is root for?
what is it used for?
I have used Ubuntu and Fedora a couple of times but, seriously, root was just a command really.
After I root. then what?
Also. I was wondering. can Rogers ever be converted into the DREAM100/DREAM110?. i dont know, just wondering. If that was possible, It would make things very simple for people like me.
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Since you're a lazy noob (at least to the G1), check the link in my sig that will answer most of your preliminary questions. Also look in the development forum's stickies, as there is A LOT of information for noobs about rooting (how to do it, and what it's good for, etc.) and flashing SPL, Recovery, and ROMs.

^That noob thread should be stickied. lol
So now, I am following instructions.
and I am a bit confused.
I am right now setting up my pc for rooting
http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/device.html
It says
Setting up a Device for Development said:
Step 1.) Declare your application as "debuggable" in your Android Manifest.
In Eclipse, you can do this from the Application tab when viewing the Manifest (on the right side, set Debuggable to true). Otherwise, in the AndroidManifest.xml file, add android:debuggable="true" to the <application> element.
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What exactly does this mean?
Which application.
I have learned that AndroidManifest.xml is used for every application
I have the AndroidSDK on my computer, and I have also installed the usb driver
And when I searched in there, boy I got lots of results for "AndroidManifest.xml"
A little help?
Thanks a lot.
EDIT-
See, while here, I just had a simple question
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4280573#post4280573
HyeProfile said:
Rooting the Rogers Dream
3.Install the proper drivers for your device, and make sure you can mount the microSD card and access it from your computer
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Does this mean, being able to access the MicroSD card straight from you computer with an adapter/card reader? or though the phone?
I can access it from the phone btw

Follow the simple root link in my signature. Takes you to a thread specific to root on a Roger's dream along with a crowd of other canucks executing the same procedure.

A 1gig swap, way way overkill and completely useless to have anywhere near that much

please help a newb out

I would like someone to explain to me in detail how to get the other lockscreen for fresh 2.0b i would like the non-sense one. someone tryed to explain to me that u need to use sdk. which i downloaded but i dont know what to do from there i unzipped onto my desktop now what?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+delete+htclockscreen

I would mind a guide as well. Or at least a confirmation that what I find on google works in 2.1 roms...

edit: i mean the nexus style lockscreen

I would say dont mess with it. Sounds like you are not sure what ADB is and haven't really done your reading.
There are ways to backup files and restore files to change the lockscreen. Hell, there is a thread on page 1 or 2 that talks specifically about lockscreens.
Please do some reading, the info is right in front of you.

i looked on the wiki guide but it really isnt detailed. i have no problem learning how to do this and really would like to but the guide isnt specific

jokerpt50 said:
i looked on the wiki guide but it really isnt detailed. i have no problem learning how to do this and really would like to but the guide isnt specific
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buy root explorer from the market and go to system/app/htclockscreen.apk and hold onto it and delete. after that then reboot

Agree
jokerpt50 said:
i looked on the wiki guide but it really isnt detailed. i have no problem learning how to do this and really would like to but the guide isnt specific
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I agree, I am fairly new to the Android and I was able to get through the initial steps of rooting it and flashing it however, I want to know the details.
Do I need to reinstall my programs every time or is there provxml like Windows Mobile had?
I partitioned my SD Card because the option is there but what is it for? Why is there a need to adb push some items vs just copying data directory on the card from the usb connection.
Why can't I get Live Wallpapers to work even when I disable Sense UI via home switcher?
The Wiki is great for some of the how's but I am missing some of the why's. And where I can go. Then if you go to a thread, the people on the thread are usually pass the point I wanna know and refer to it in passing.
Sorry OP, I don't have an answer to your question, but just many questions of my own. Now, I admit I could have missed the information somewhere on here but usually that kind of thing is sticked but this forum chooses not to use Stickies.
Thanks for any help you've got.

Not sure what to tell you. The information is here for you to read. There are a ton of devs on this board that are doing a ton of stuff most of us dont know. This is a development forum, meaning they are de-compiling tweaking and recompiling. What you are looking for is a 101 class but these discussions are mostly 501 material.
Android is based on Linux. If you know that you have a leg up.
If you find a guide that teaches how to understand this stuff, please share it with all of us. Most of what these guys are doing is from lots and lots of experience and lots and lots of trail and error.
Hell, there are people that have gone to the lengths to write countless guides on rooting, pushing and pulling files, hell there is even a guide on how to compile your own ROM.
The information is there. Lots of it I don't understand either, so I sit back and try to answer what I can answer, most of which is just posting an answer someone else posted and I read because I have read a LOT!!!.

KwestJones said:
Do I need to reinstall my programs every time or is there provxml like Windows Mobile had?
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It depends. Don't know what that program is. There are backup programs that you can buy that will do backups. You only lose your apps when you do a wipe. Please read more and understand what you are doing before you do it.
KwestJones said:
I partitioned my SD Card because the option is there but what is it for? Why is there a need to adb push some items vs just copying data directory on the card from the usb connection.
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Now you are setup for apps2sd. I don't use it, I don't like it. I don't know if you can go back without reformating your SD card.
KwestJones said:
Why can't I get Live Wallpapers to work even when I disable Sense UI via home switcher?
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If you are asking about LWP, then you are running a 2.x ROM but have not read the entire thread about that ROM. Please search that thread for Live or LWP etc.
KwestJones said:
The Wiki is great for some of the how's but I am missing some of the why's. And where I can go. Then if you go to a thread, the people on the thread are usually pass the point I wanna know and refer to it in passing.
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You will have a very hard time getting answers to any "why" type question when dealing with programming. Most of the time I get from my devs is "why not" or "cause that's what I felt like that day"
KwestJones said:
Sorry OP, I don't have an answer to your question, but just many questions of my own. Now, I admit I could have missed the information somewhere on here but usually that kind of thing is sticked but this forum chooses not to use Stickies.
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There is a guides stickie, a rom stickie. Not sure what else you are looking for.
My advice, if you do not know what you are doing, dont do it. Dont flash a radio unless you know what that will do. Keep reading until you understand what you are about to do.

i tryed using root explorer app and hold then delete but it says it is a read only file and can not be deleted?

I agree with a lot of the posts I have seen so far regarding the information existing and having to spend the time to find it. It was a bear for me to figure out how to sign zip files so that i could customize ROMs, but after spending nearly 6 hours going from one site to another and one thread to another, I finally pieced it together and can sign zips. In the meantime, i also learned a lot of other things too because as someone else mentioned here, a lot of times a thread is full of stuff, but only references something that they might be interested in at that particular moment.
Unfortunately, this is an advanced forum and lots of the people on here have taken the time to learn things by just "putting in the time"... You need to do the same thing and use search 5 ways from sunday to find what you want... if 10 pages into a 50 page thread you haven't found what you want, you still need to finish the last 40 pages, click all the links in the threads and make sure you've searched things in that thread that you can't find after finishing it... then you do it all over again on another thread.
Guides are nice, but if everyone spent time making guides, development of ROMs etc. would suffer as this is not easy stuff until you figure it out and make it work and there is no truly easy way to make a guide that is multi-faceted.
Maybe if you learn things on your own, you can piece together all the different places you found the pieces you needed to do what you wanted and create the guide...
R

Thank you
Bielinsk said:
It depends. Don't know what that program is. There are backup programs that you can buy that will do backups. You only lose your apps when you do a wipe. Please read more and understand what you are doing before you do it.
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Programs like Google Maps, like Google Voice, like Google Goggle, like Advanced Task killers...standard programs that I would want to have on my phone everytime I flash a new ROM. The two ROMs I've had both required wipes.
Bielinsk said:
Now you are setup for apps2sd. I don't use it, I don't like it. I don't know if you can go back without reformating your SD card.
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Now if its title implicates its meaning, I think it might be answer to the question up above, but I haven't been able to find an explanation of what it is. Maybe that's my impatience. I did look in the guides on the WIKI and although there is an explanation about how to switch an Apps2SD card, there is no explanation of what it is or how to use it.
Bielinsk said:
If you are asking about LWP, then you are running a 2.x ROM but have not read the entire thread about that ROM. Please search that thread for Live or LWP etc.
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You are right. I didn't read the 37 pages about the ROM. I did look in the guides on the WIKI and that's not there either.
Bielinsk said:
You will have a very hard time getting answers to any "why" type question when dealing with programming. Most of the time I get from my devs is "why not" or "cause that's what I felt like that day"
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Don't get me wrong. I don't want to reverse engineer the code. I do wanna know why I need to, for example, partition my card to use Apps2SD. I do want to know why I need to adb push.
Bielinsk said:
There is a guides stickie, a rom stickie. Not sure what else you are looking for.
My advice, if you do not know what you are doing, dont do it. Dont flash a radio unless you know what that will do. Keep reading until you understand what you are about to do.
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I guess that's the answer to the question. Keep reading. I was looking for a compilation and summary. I guess I'll just have to get busy reading and updating the wiki myself.
Thanks

jokerpt50 said:
i tryed using root explorer app and hold then delete but it says it is a read only file and can not be deleted?
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You have to press the {R/W} button on the top of the screen first. Stands for Read/Write, when done press it again so it says {R/O} Read/Only

Joker,
I'm willing to try to walk you through it step-by-step if you want me to. Are you running Windows? If so, have you downloaded Android SDK Windows? Once you've downloaded that, put it in the C:\ directory of your hard drive and let me know. I'll try to make this in plain English. I'm rather new to Android myself, but this is a rather simple task if you have someone willing to explain it to you. I'll give it a shot.

Please connect your phone and select the HTC Sync option. I forgot to mention in the previous post that you should have the most recent HTC driver installed on your computer. If you have HTC Sync installed, you should have the driver too. When you connect your phone and select HTC Sync, it will search for Sync but not find it. This is ok, just acknowledge the prompt on your phone.
Next, open the Command Prompt. One way to do this is to go to the Start Menu ---> Run and type: cmd
This should open the Command Prompt in a new window. Next type each of the following lines into the Command Prompt and press Enter at the end of each line.
cd c:\android-sdk-windows\tools
adb remount
adb shell
cd /system/app/
rm HtcLockScreen*
exit
adb reboot
Once you press enter after the reboot, your phone should reboot with the Android 2.1 lockscreen. If you have any questions or problems, feel free to ask. I'll try to check back and answer whatever I can. Good luck.

i got it to work thanks so much everyone for your help!

new to this, how to root?

Hello,
i am new to the andriod world (few days) well i decided to get a samsung captivate i used to have an iphone, i was wondering if there is a recent list of the steps on how to root this phone? not assuming that i know a step or more. i researched all day today and found some that were pretty good but some didnt work for some reason. i also didnt know i need it the samsung drivers so this is what i mean by not skipping a step or assuming i know a step. thanks in advance.

droid_07 said:
Hello,
i am new to the andriod world (few days) well i decided to get a samsung captivate i used to have an iphone, i was wondering if there is a recent list of the steps on how to root this phone? not assuming that i know a step or more. i researched all day today and found some that were pretty good but some didnt work for some reason. i also didnt know i need it the samsung drivers so this is what i mean by not skipping a step or assuming i know a step. thanks in advance.
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There are several how to videos you can find. Look for one click root if you only want to root. It is about as easy as you get. It was created by TGA Gunman. Or you can search for the Clockworkmod update.zip and place that in the root of your SD card. Then you would be able to install a Rom without actually needing to root your phone first.
Also please make sure to post questions in the proper section. You will have the wolves after you for posting a general question in dev

Root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739304

You need to spend a few days/weeks/months reading every sticky post, FAQ, and dev thread before you even think about proceeding.

kegobeer said:
You need to spend a few days/weeks/months reading every sticky post, FAQ, and dev thread before you even think about proceeding.
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+1
captivates are difficult to brick, but not impossible

First Attempt at Modding my Samsung Captivate…..

I just got my first REAL smartphone, actually it’s still on FedEx truck.
From reading the stickies on this forum, here’s what I gathered so far (and I am starting from scratch – nothing on my phone yet)
1) Root my phone with the ‘OneClick’ tool.
2) Install ROM (I am thinking Cognition, since it’s recommended for beginner).
3) Install Theme (haven’t decide on one yet) – any suggestions?
So, am I missing anything?

You seem to have a good grasp on what you are doing. I do recommend buying/making a Jig to have around just in case.

You're well on your way.
Make sure and read up on bootloaders and the difference between 2.1/2.2 and 2.3 bootloaders as getting this wrong is the main thing that can lead to "big" trouble.
Also take a look at Odin, Odin One Click return to stock and make sure and know the difference between those and the Odin One Click w/3 Button Combo.

thanks guys, i think i have a good idea of what i want to do but i am still struggling to find the details to do the above.
for example, what difference if my phone batch is 1010, or 1012, or older?
do i need to get an microsd card, if so what size/brand?
what sofware do i need to download?
etc, etc. etc.
i will continue to browse through the forums, but if you know of any links please post.
also, what does the jig do? do i need to have one?
thanks

First decide what u want to do, As u stated first root the phone and then u want a custom ROM, So go ahead and try it.
Only thing i will advice start from a froyo rom then to the gingerbread as there would be less chances to brick your phone while flashing the b.loades.
Read the OP properly of the ROM which you want to flash there are many good froyo rom available here. But just be sure what u are doing.

Please for the love of all things unholy, read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049294
and if the phone comes with froyo you will need this after rooting before flashing a rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052991

At the start DEFINITE GUIDE TO BRICKING, LOL.
Its just a joke be sure you read it all.

rkkaranrk said:
First decide what u want to do, As u stated first root the phone and then u want a custom ROM, So go ahead and try it.
Only thing i will advice start from a froyo rom then to the gingerbread as there would be less chances to brick your phone while flashing the b.loades.
Read the OP properly of the ROM which you want to flash there are many good froyo rom available here. But just be sure what u are doing.
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thanks, yes from what i've read it's better to stay away from the gingerbread roms - at least for novice like myself.

My personal favorite were Firefly 3.0 and serendipity 6.4 links below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900568
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914284
Again i will say read the OP carefully before flashing.

I have a few Captivates in the family and IMHO the first thinkg to do before flashing anything is to purchase Root Explorer in the market (for around $4) then back up your EFS folder (in the main directory) and save it to a cd so you ALWAYS have a hard copy of it. These files are specific to your phone and if they get screwed up during flashing, you phone may not be able to be used as a phone anymore. The back up copy will save you.
All of the above stuff is good. I was a noob about 6 months ago but I spent hours upon hours of reading and watching videos about flashing and moding. Good luck!

rkkaranrk said:
My personal favorite were Firefly 3.0 and serendipity 6.4 links below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900568
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914284
Again i will say read the OP carefully before flashing.
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thanks, but what do you mean "read the OP carefully"

jack man said:
I have a few Captivates in the family and IMHO the first thinkg to do before flashing anything is to purchase Root Explorer in the market (for around $4) then back up your EFS folder (in the main directory) and save it to a cd so you ALWAYS have a hard copy of it. These files are specific to your phone and if they get screwed up during flashing, you phone may not be able to be used as a phone anymore. The back up copy will save you.
All of the above stuff is good. I was a noob about 6 months ago but I spent hours upon hours of reading and watching videos about flashing and moding. Good luck!
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great, these are what i love to hear.
things to do, or not to do, before modding/flashing.

smokarz said:
thanks, but what do you mean "read the OP carefully"
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the OP is the original post or poster, like your first question is the op, and you are also the op of the thread. in that context he meant the original post, because that will have most of the information about the rom...but i would expand on that to read the op and the a couple of pages in, and also if its a large thread with alot of posts read atleast the LAST 5 or 6 pages also.
anymore terms you are unfamiliar with read the op of this thread carefully: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093062

thanks for clarying.
just got my phone in the mail.
i looked at the batch number under the battery slot and it shows 1106.
does this mean i have version 2.1 or 2.2? what would be the appropriate app/tool for rooting?
thanks

The batch had nothing to do with the firmware....that just means your phone was built in june of 2011. But since it's a new phone it more than likely has 2.2 confirm this in settings>about phone> firmware version.
Use super one click to root.
BUT FIRST PLEASE READ SOME MORE.
All of the information you are looking is already on here at the very least twice probably WAY more.

it is indeed version 2.2

so i read the first page of this thread and also watched the youtube clip. it looks straight enough to root. but i got a question. should i run the universal root or the captivate root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682&page=442

smokarz said:
so i read the first page of this thread and also watched the youtube clip. it looks straight enough to root. but i got a question. should i run the universal root or the captivate root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682&page=442
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I would use SuperOneClick to root 2.2, however, the only version that was successful for me was version 1.6.5. The newer versions gave me errors or said FAILED when trying to root. For me, it has always worked with 1.6.5

thanks, but i only see v1.7 and v1.95. where can i get v1.65?
also, i do not need the samsung driver for rooting right? only for flashing?

smokarz said:
thanks, but i only see v1.7 and v1.95. where can i get v1.65?
also, i do not need the samsung driver for rooting right? only for flashing?
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You should have the driver installed on your computer for anything you do with the phone. Make sure after you install drivers to plug in your phone to the computer in all the different modes it has - in debugging mode, not in debug mode, in download mode, and connecting as an external drive. The computer will install all the drivers when you do this.
I will try to attach v1.6.5 of Super One CLick. I hope it's ok with the moderators here that I am posting the software. Just unzip the folder and double click the android icon in that folder.

[Q] New to all of this

Let me say I had an EVO and used Unrevoked to root it and all I did was use that for wifi.
So now I have an unrooted Nexus. I am in a position that I want some of the custom things but have not rooted and a lot of this technical stuff floors me at this point and I do not want to brick my phone.
Can anyone tell me what it means to install via recovery, how to do a backup and what deoxxed (I know it is spelled wrong) is?
I want to put a custom home screen, I like the blue market I see and I like the clear MMS that is posted, but the install instructions just confuses me.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I really am wanting to customize my Nexus 4G.

steveh552 said:
Let me say I had an EVO and used Unrevoked to root it and all I did was use that for wifi.
So now I have an unrooted Nexus. I am in a position that I want some of the custom things but have not rooted and a lot of this technical stuff floors me at this point and I do not want to brick my phone.
Can anyone tell me what it means to install via recovery, how to do a backup and what deoxxed (I know it is spelled wrong) is?
I want to put a custom home screen, I like the blue market I see and I like the clear MMS that is posted, but the install instructions just confuses me.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I really am wanting to customize my Nexus 4G.
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Check out the One Click Root thread in the Nexus S 4G Development section. See if that helps a little more. Your probably going to get flamed for posting this in this section, but oh well. Read that and try to get rooted first. Then if you need more help after that feel free to shoot me a PM and ill try to help you more. Read different threads as well, just search XDA for root NS4G. Hit me up if you need some help with anything.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA Premium App

steveh552 said:
Let me say I had an EVO and used Unrevoked to root it and all I did was use that for wifi.
So now I have an unrooted Nexus. I am in a position that I want some of the custom things but have not rooted and a lot of this technical stuff floors me at this point and I do not want to brick my phone.
Can anyone tell me what it means to install via recovery, how to do a backup and what deoxxed (I know it is spelled wrong) is?
I want to put a custom home screen, I like the blue market I see and I like the clear MMS that is posted, but the install instructions just confuses me.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I really am wanting to customize my Nexus 4G.
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I went through the exact same thing. If you start reading more threads it will start coming to you. When you root, you need the drivers (adb and fastboot) installed on your computer, they come with either pdanet or sdk which you can find the download links to with a quick search of the forums. Find the stickied section of NS4G dev section and those should have all the files you need. Cwm is Clockwork Mod Recovery. It is flashed after unlocking the bootloader using a command prompt. After rooting and flashing cwm, you boot into recovery(cwm) and follow the instructions from a root guide to flash your new rom. I think BuglessPete has a great tutorial on root and flashing a rom. Find that and you're good to go. Don't get discouraged. It is NOT as hard or complicated as it seems. You will be surprised at how simple these guys have made it for us newcomers. Make sure you give them a thanks.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA Premium App

So it was a day from you know what. I got rooted first this morning, I did the first update that I wanted which was the blue market, epic fail. I spent the whole day trying to get my market to work again, no go. I had not backed up (stupid me) and when put that new market in it was a FC galore. I tried downloading other market apk's including the market that is due to be released and none would install. I ended up flashing the phone with Oxygen ROM. Now I have to get the phone back to the way I like it, lots of apps to download (not sure why they did not restore since I am set to back up/restore from google servers) and go from there.
I will be doing more I am sure, lots of reading to do. Thanks to the two of you.