Fennec Alpha 3 (Firefox for WM) - XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

http://blog.mozilla.com/blassey/2009/09/04/fennec-alpha-3-for-windows-mobile/
I have installed this on my X1 and the interface looks good, but I can't get it to load any web pages!!
Am I missing something or is anyone else having the same issue?
For those that want to give it a try the cab is here:
bit.ly/wma3cab

same here

I didn't have any trouble at all - just installed and ran fine. I'm using Touch-X custom rom though, so I'm not sure if that affects it. I've tried both a1 and a3.
I'm really excited about the layout, it certainly better and more inline with the iPhone Safari experience; needless to say the rendering is the same as FF for desktops. But it's quite unstable, many pages cause the browser to crash/quit, and since there's no support for OpenES yet - it's painfully slow.

I only had one problem with it. It was terribly slow.
As Opero Mobile Turbo mode is still in beta and does not support lots of features, I keep my Opera mini.

TofuJoe said:
since there's no support for OpenES yet - it's painfully slow.
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Thats absolutely no excuse for this extremely slow piece of software, Opera Mobile 9.6 didn't have any acceleration either and is over an hundred times faster. OpenGL-ES was one of the key-features of 9.7 Beta.
Granted, its a Alpha. But all things considered, I dont think we'll ever see this running at reasonable speeds on the 528Mhz MSM7200A.
Im very interested how the speed is on the, 1Ghz Snapdragon powered, LG TG01 phone.

The actual page panning is a lot better since A2, it's just panning onto the interface that is painfully slow.

SomeoneSimple said:
Thats absolutely no excuse for this extremely slow piece of software...
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Haha that's true, shame that it seems Fennec's focus is really just on the Nokia platform at the moment.

on my x1, don't start the browser, crash only.

www.opera.com/next
OperaMini 5 soon..
Will kick ass probably.

I think some people in this thread forget that it is a fricking ALFA! IT IS SUPPOSED TO CRASH AND BE SLOW AND LAGGY! Ever heard of a "work in progress", or did you think "alfa" is part of the name? Pffft...
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A9000 fake Kaiser/TyanII

http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/07/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cxvi-tilt-gets-shamelessly-aped/#comments
Wonder if it has the proper video drivers LOL
Ha! Take a look
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/04/07/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cxvi-tilt-gets-shamelessly-aped/
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If they ripped off a working video chipset and drivers, I'd buy it...
NotATreoFan said:
If they ripped off a working video chipset and drivers, I'd buy it...
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You don't need working drivers for that video - it's Liverpool - they always play in slow motion anyway so no problems with camera lag
"You don't need working drivers for that video - it's Liverpool - they always play in slow motion anyway so no problems with camera lag "
LOL !!!
Nice
Interestingly that endgadget article has a post that this phone does not actually run Windows Mobile... but some sort of rip-off.
Other sites that sell the device don't state WM6 (or any version) on their features list.
Does M$ charge alot for putting WM on a device? If so that could be one reason for the low price.
Plus it only has a 30 day warranty, I believe the tilt has a 1 year(?)
More here
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2008/04/awang_a9000_clones_att_tilt.html
Uses "some sort of Windows Mobile operating system". The real one is already a buggy mess, go figure that one...LOL
I bet it will perform better than the Kaiser, and I'm not kidding (sadly).
It will probably perform better than the Kaiser because it is using a basic OS that is more like a calculator than a Windows Mobile.
So, it probably boots up in 5 seconds, switches apps in a fraction.
But it also probably doesn't have TouchFlo, PIE, or many of the other features that make the Kaiser/Tilt nice.
It is like any of the other numerous phones out there on the market (like from Verizon) that have a slide out keyboard with a proprietary OS.
This of course is assuming the statements above about it not being WM6 are true. If it indeed runs WM6 then I am sure the performance will be equivalent to the Kaiser.

board with my tilt

Well it's time to start to look for something new... i am getting board with my tilt.....what's new and cool comming out?
Sony Experia x1... September.
Did you Mean...
BOARD
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or
BORED
????
I think he meant Bord, which is the Swedish cousin of El Borg.
Yukka yukka.
So in all seriousness, the Kaiser is slow. Really slow. Like, too much software for too little processing power. I'm coming from a Treo 650, which did exactly what I wanted it to at lightning speed.
I'm seriously considering returning my Tilt and getting a 3g Steve Jobs Special or another Palm PDA.
I went from Palm Pilot -> Kyocera 6035 -> Treo 650 -> Kaiser. So far, I feel like the Kaiser impedes rather than enables my daily productivity.
Bleh.
-Mod
The Tilt is a great phone, what else do you need?
If you want something exciting why don't you pickup a new iPhone 3G? Seems to have a lot going for it..
-RT
RogueTrooper said:
The Tilt is a great phone, what else do you need?
If you want something exciting why don't you pickup a new iPhone 3G? Seems to have a lot going for it..
-RT
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right now, I'm thinking I need more speed. The Tilt is very very slow compared to my Treo 650, even without overclocking the processor.
Also, the interface is more laptop PC, less cell phone. Five+ clicks per basic task = 4 too many. It's a mouse-and keyboard like interface.
Plus, Outlook Mobile is lame.
I dunno, I still have it and am flashing away to try and improve things. I like having control over my phone's software, hardware and OS, but I don't like having it be agonizingly slow.
-Mod
Mod'em is right about having extreme control over the hardware/software but it being just toooooo daaaaaang slooooooow.
I also firmly believe this is why I'm most definitely waiting for the next gen powered devices (UMPC's/MID's). These are most likely:
-Intel ATOM powered devices (X86 platform)
-NVIDIA Tegra powered devices (can you say 720p H.264 with the CPU/GPU/Chipset only taking up 1.3watts!).
But really, the hardware you see in the videos at the link below almost made me cry! Do yourself a favor and check them out!
http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/03/nvidia-shows-off-tegra-on-video/2
Those videos show what I've been looking for in my mobile device. I think a Tegra chipset is in my future and going to be the device that takes me away from my tilt.

[info] New input keyboard swype

Read an interesting article about a new input software for touchscreen devices.
Article
Developer Homepage
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On the homepage and in the article there are videos to see how it works. If this method works flawlessly it will definitely improve the writing speed a lot. Looks very promising from my point of view. I subscribted the newsletter to get a notice when this will be available (soon as the developers said).
I subscripted myself to test the beta! So i'm curieus to the result.
Subscripted also
Subscripte also. The app looks verry promising. Can not wait to use it.
signed up as well. looks like an interesting concept, especially on the diamond.
Repeated Thread?
wow looks awesome...
looks really interesting, if it really works that well that would be a revolution.
and people would finally stop whining about not being able to type easily on their touch'es
not really a revolution... Just stumbled on something like this yesterday cus i really wanted that iphone feature
http://www.mobiletextinput.com/Product/SlideIT/SlideIT.php
p.s. I just tried the demo, its Qvga. It does work tho and in my opinion pretty nice.
martijnvdp said:
not really a revolution... Just stumbled on something like this yesterday cus i really wanted that iphone feature
http://www.mobiletextinput.com/Product/SlideIT/SlideIT.php
p.s. I just tried the demo, its Qvga. It does work tho and in my opinion pretty nice.
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The symbols page is too small. Other than that - not too bad.
Unfortunately we'll probably never get to use it due to their business model of now downloading of it, it's just baked into the carrier ROM's. Kind of dumb in my opinion, but maybe someone here can make a cab file from it.
KingBoo said:
Unfortunately we'll probably never get to use it due to their business model of now downloading of it, it's just baked into the carrier ROM's. Kind of dumb in my opinion, but maybe someone here can make a cab file from it.
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Use Swype instead:
http://www.modaco.com/content/i910-specific-omnia-rom-discussion/297345/swype-on-i910-works/
VGA version is now available:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=598633

Thinking of buying Palm Treo Pro

hi,
Kaiser has been a disaster. I am tired of flashing Roms every other day.
Thinking of buying Treo Pro. I guess its got almost same specs as kaiser.
I just need to know if its being manufactured by those Taiwanese cheaters/Frauds. I don't want to use HTC Hardwares.
What about Imate do they manufacture their own phones?
Any info will help me make my life more simpler.
Tough luck man! Treo Pro is also manufactured by HTC!!!!!
See this - http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/9656/palm-treo-pro-review/
Anyway what is wrong with your Kaiser (or HTC)?? My Kaiser works perfectly fine
Indeed, I don't know what's wrong with the Kaiser. Some people flash repeatedly because they can't live without it and need their fix, but that's in no way necessary... I tried one custom ROM, liked it, and never flashed again in 6 months, and my device works just as I'd expect it to. Period...
HTC happens to make a fair amount of Windows Mobile hardware out there out the market. Sorry to tell you that? Their hardware is actually superb, its the software implementation that you're complaining about(and which I can sympathize to a degree with you). The Android is coming out on T-Mobile relatively soon. You might take a look at that. HTC made still, but the software should be MUCH nicer than Windows Mobile.
I need hardware as good as Nokia
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HTC happens to make a fair amount of Windows Mobile hardware out there out the market. Sorry to tell you that? Their hardware is actually superb, its the software implementation that you're complaining about(and which I can sympathize to a degree with you). The Android is coming out on T-Mobile relatively soon. You might take a look at that. HTC made still, but the software should be MUCH nicer than Windows Mobile.
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I need hardware as good as Nokia, whenever I see one, i am impressed with their sound quality and camera is also very good.
I love Windows mobile.
check out treocentral or something
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I have go myself a Treo Pro. I also grew tired of the kaiser issues;
Camera
Video
Keyboard
GPS (on 6.1)
If anyone would like me to compare the two in specific tests, let me know soon before this Tilt is sold.
Thread for comparisons: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432151

Opera 10.50 beta The fastest browser on Earth

Ready to download 10.50 beta
http://www.opera.com/browser/next/
Test it and see if it´s really the fastest
Performance tests:
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Adblock have a look here:
http://fanboy.co.nz/adblock/opera/urlfilter.ini
Damn fast indeed!!!!
Even faster than Chrome
yeah I love it
UNITE is great as well..
Looks good...will have to take it for a spin!
I've been using Opera for about a year now and opera 10 is great, and 10.50 is REALLY fast. The only issues I have is it freezes and crashes sometimes when browsing Java intense sites (such as Facebook), but I'm sure that's just a beta issue that will (hopefully) be fixed in the final release. Also, Opera Turbo is great when i tether my phone to my computer for internet. Opera Link is also a great feature so i can sync all my favorites and speed dial from my desktop to Opera Mini and Mobile on my phone.
Overall, I love opera. I just wish it had a wider java support as some features dont work on some sites (ie, the @ tagging on Facebook statuses doesnt work in opera). I would still suggest opera over all other browsers.
Regards,
sarge21rvb
Yes, unbeleievable. Thanks for the link
Thanks Orb for pointing out have to say impressed not used Opera for along time on desktop due to adverts, have they only just incorporated ad block?
Running fast and smooth will give it a while to know if can switch as straight away i'm missing some plugins i use on regular occasions.
stylez said:
Thanks Orb for pointing out have to say impressed not used Opera for along time on desktop due to adverts, have they only just incorporated ad block?
Running fast and smooth will give it a while to know if can switch as straight away i'm missing some plugins i use on regular occasions.
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Glad to know you liked it stylez
They are still working on adblock but have a look here:
http://fanboy.co.nz/adblock/opera/urlfilter.ini
Cheers,
P.d. added some comparatives
sarge21rvb said:
Overall, I love opera. I just wish it had a wider java support as some features dont work on some sites (ie, the @ tagging on Facebook statuses doesnt work in opera).
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That sounds like JavaScript and not Java.
How does the @ tagging on Facebook work? What isn't working in Opera?

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