I have a 4 gig sd card with it partioned ext2,ext3, and a linux swap. To be honest I don't know really what that means exactly, just followed the tutoriul to have my apps to go to my sd card. When I go to sd storage info it says.
Total space- 3,255mb Available space 1,875 mb.
Under Sd card secondary it says Total space- 457mb Available space- 292mb
For Internal phone storage it says 78mb available.
My question is where are my apps actually going? And where does my other stuff such as music, movies and other files go? From what i am guessing I have 1875mb for files and 292mb for apps. Correct? Thanx in advance for explaining this too me.
It should be fat32, ext3, linux-swap. 78 megs sounds right for apps2sd. Your apps go to ext3 along with your cache, movies and other files you can browse on your phone go to your fat32which is your normal storage and swap is a location where your phone puts operating memory to hold more processes in the background(helps out you ram)
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To be honest I don't know really what that means exactly
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This is a warning flag that you will probably brick or otherwise disable your phone in the future.
Nothing in the dev subforum should be performed until you fully understand how it works.
jashsu said:
This is a warning flag that you will probably brick or otherwise disable your phone in the future.
Nothing in the dev subforum should be performed until you fully understand how it works.
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I doubt everybody here knows exactly every technical detail and aspect about their phones. In addition I knew I was partioning my sd card just wanted to understand where all my files were going. I have successfully rooted my phone the old fashion way and installed numerous roms and themes after many hours of reading and following directions in these forums. I'm sorry i am not expert in linux or coding. All I asked was for some information of the subject, if you can't help then don't post. Thanks gridlock for your answer.
You are welcome but I must defend jashsu, you have only been a member since last month and made a few posts, he was just staying on the side of caution because there are a lot of people who just dive in without knowing what they are doing and no offense but your ? Was a common type of ? That a noob who did not have much knowledge would ask
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if you can't help then don't post.
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I tried to help, you weren't receptive of it. Maybe a second time with some added emphasis will drive the point home?
Nothing in the dev subforum should be performed until you fully understand how it works.
Are there people in the dev forum who can/should do things that they don't fully understand? Of course; they are the hackers and experimenters who are not afraid of bricking their devices. I assume (perhaps wrongly?) from your comment "I don't know really what that means exactly, just followed the tutoriul" that you are not one of those people. I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
I stand by what I wrote.
Edit: by the way the asking of questions (although searching would be good too) is part of the process of learning and therefore understanding. I was not at all trying to discourage you from asking the question, I was just pointing out the danger of proceeding with dev modifications without proper understanding.
78mb?? your lucky I only got 33mb! and I got cyanogens rom with automatic apps2sd!
where do you guys reckon my space has gone?
Did you wipe before you flash cyanogen, right now on 4.04 I have 64mb internal with running the danger spl, that does change internal memory
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Ok Guys, new to this site, hopefully y'all can help me out.
I recently rooted my G1, Installed the latest Cyanogen (4.7.2.1) and installed a theme ( Marks Theme). I dont have very many apps cause I didnt want to bog down the phone memory.....
I love the set up but it started running slower even after I started running the over clocker widget.
My phone is only showing 14.18 MB of free internal memory. I went through my applications installed and can only find around 25 MB being used from all installed apps ( including browser and messaging etc.)
I even tried to do a factory reset ( by going through the settings) and the factory reset is not working. It changed nothing.
Is there something that Im missing? I feel like I should have much more free memory.
I love the way my phone works and the set up, I just wish it had more free memory so that it would run faster.
Ive thought about doing the Apps2SD but I feel like I chould have much more memory on my phone even before doing something like that.
PLEASE HELP!!!!!!
This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.
You could always upgrade to the new amon ra and then let it partition the sd card for you.Then you can have all that free phone storage for whatever it is.Bext time just try to restrict yourself from posting in wrong section
-Best regards
IConrad01 said:
This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.
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Thank you for the quick response. Is there a way to move this thread?
Also is there a better ROM that will take up less memory? I like this version but obviously it is wayy to large.
Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?
Most people using the Cyanogen ROM also utilize A2SD. Partition your SD card and you'll get more room.
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Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?
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There is no issue, you just don't have an ext partition ergo, all applications are installed to your phone which is why you have low phone memory.
pewterwest said:
Thank you for the quick response. Is there a way to move this thread?
Also is there a better ROM that will take up less memory? I like this version but obviously it is wayy to large.
Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?
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Hello! app2SD will put the apps to ext...Then you will have more memory, why do you think people use it? To save even more money on geico?
Go here for the amon recovery...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669
Hi, first of this has nothing to do with development, should be in Q&A. Please remember for next time
OK, when you're on a custom ROM, don't use factory reset. Instead boot in to the recovery image and perform a wipe from there, and that's exactly what I'd suggest. Be prepared to loose everything stored on the phones memory, but you can use a backup app from the market for that... No you really should way more space than that, I can't really explain why...
IConrad01 said:
This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.
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The phone has two main partitions: /system and /data. It isn't /system that's filling up, it's /data (which makes sense...). The phone can't write to /system when it's unrooted, so it's not possible to store files there...
Everyone is trying to help but for a noob it can be a bit too much...4.2.7.1 is the best Rom available so keep that....RA Recovery is the best way to set up your memory card to accept your apps and keep them there freeing up a ton of space on the phone....simple way to fix is....Just format you sdcard with EXT3 using the RA-recovery v1.5.1 then once your card is formatted just reboot and Cyanogen's rom will move all the apps for you.....will not need to wipe any info on the phone that way...done it many times......Pm me if you need help!!!!
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some threads to help:
Ra - Recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669
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[REF] manual partition of sdcard w/parted,goto ext3/4 from adb. no liveCD req'd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534714
Young Money. Cash Money.
(partition sd card)
The non rooted standard T-Mobile rom is about the same size and will give you about the same amount of free space. There could be a more barebones rom but I think it's just a lot easier to run Apps2SD then to create a rom that might get you an extra 10mb of internal space. This is the fault of the internal memory on the phone being small. The only way to fix that is getting Apps2sd running which if you make a partion of 100mb should be enough to install all the apps you need. Getting a larger SD card for $10 is also another option so you wont have 1/10th of your sd cards storage gone.
djdarkknight96 said:
Everyone is trying to help but for a noob it can be a bit too much...4.2.7.1 is the best Rom available so keep that....RA Recovery is the best way to set up your memory card to accept your apps and keep them there freeing up a ton of space on the phone....simple way to fix is....Just format you sdcard with EXT3 using the RA-recovery v1.5.1 then once your card is formatted just reboot and Cyanogen's rom will move all the apps for you.....will not need to wipe any info on the phone that way...done it many times......Pm me if you need help!!!!
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some threads to help:
Ra - Recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669
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[REF] manual partition of sdcard w/parted,goto ext3/4 from adb. no liveCD req'd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534714
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Guys thank you very much for your help..... i partioned my sd and now i have 58.8 MB free on internal.... you guys are great.
Is there anything else i can do besides rooting, apps2sd and overclocker to make even faster?
pewterwest said:
Guys thank you very much for your help..... i partioned my sd and now i have 58.8 MB free on internal.... you guys are great.
Is there anything else i can do besides rooting, apps2sd and overclocker to make even faster?
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You can always try different roms. CM is good and fast, but maybe try dwang 1.13 or Wesgarner version. wg is based on CM. I find it faster and more stable but this is just my opinion. if you back everything up with nandroid and some app like mybackup, you can flash all you want. you'll be able to get everything back with a nandroid/mybackup restore. try different stuff out and figure out what you like!
It seems the firmware after the models xjm1 and xjm2 are bricking phones on reverting back to US firmware. Thought it was my phone. So im getting rid of this thread.
previous post edited...sorry I read wrong......
Nope, just wanted to show off my homescreen in case anyone was wondering compatibility issues with applications that everyone is familiar with. Those were just some of the main applications I know a wide audience tend to use, so I picked them to display.
damn,.. you already answered to my stupid question.... sorry for wasting your time...anyways I've got few new questions!
After MIMO Ext 4 procedure is done...
1) What happens if you take out the external memory card after booting...
2) What happans if you lose the external memory card? Is the phone considered bricked then?
3) How do I reverse the MIMO Ext 4? (get rid of MIMO Ext4)
Anyways great info!!! I might actually try JM2 installation!!
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damn,.. you already answered to my stupid question.... sorry for wasting your time...anyways I've got few new questions!
After MIMO Ext 4 procedure is done...
1) What happens if you take out the external memory card after booting...
2) What happans if you lose the external memory card? Is the phone considered bricked then?
3) How do I reverse the MIMO Ext 4? (get rid of MIMO Ext4)
Anyways great info!!! I might actually try JM2 installation!!
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1. Since your application data is now stored and ran from the sd card, your applications will go wonky, and any applications you try to install or reopen that have been close will not open.
2. No, if you lost the sd card, you can simply format another one, or use ROM manager and the clockwork recovery to reinstall your stock rom.
3. Rom manager or reflash original firmware with ODIN. But I recommend using Clockwork recovery to reinstall a nandroid backup found in the development section here, or an update.zip. As these methods are less intrusive an will give you less problems.
yay!! now I know and I dont' have to shiver in fear bricking my phone trying MIMO Ext4 !!!!!!!!!
I appreciate your swift replies !! I'll probably try this when I get some free time !!
If I could track down a i897 phone file, I'd be all over this on my Captivate.
Croak said:
If I could track down a i897 phone file, I'd be all over this on my Captivate.
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Yeah, I had captivate in my possession yesterday, and this exact method did not work for it. Of course it might would if I could of found the exact firmware for the captivate split into the three odin files, rather than the all in one click exe. But i've returned it since then, so I won't be able to look into that anymore.
I used a program called Universal Extractor to bust open that one-click file, but all it could extract were the non-binary files inside, about 300kb of .xml, .txt and script files, in the META-INF and system directory.
I don't get it.... Why is this a goid thing to move all of your data to your sd... ?
Have you figured out why you don't have data service?
This is good write up. There are some captivate owners looking to do the same. But we don't have the firmware package u have on the vibrant. I am sure someone will come up with it. However, No DATA is a problem. I need data service. I tether alot. I pretty much depend on it.
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I don't get it.... Why is this a goid thing to move all of your data to your sd... ?
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Its for the lag fix, but doesn't have the space limitations that the nand partition does.
Sent from my SGH-T959
tissimo said:
Its for the lag fix, but doesn't have the space limitations that the nand partition does.
Sent from my SGH-T959
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Really, an ext part on the sd card is faster than the internal memory? K.. I know alot of people have bad lagg, but I havnt seen it. Buy thanx fot lettin me know.
PJcastaldo said:
Really, an ext part on the sd card is faster than the internal memory? K.. I know alot of people have bad lagg, but I havnt seen it. Buy thanx fot lettin me know.
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Its due to the I/O of the internal memory. IIIRC the internal is limited to sequential read/writes, but I guess the external isn't (and neither is nand).
Thanks for this .
Are there any flashable roms? I hear clockwork can be used on nook so are there any non sd card roms? Like clean tablet only roms I don't care about reading any books.
not in a sense. I saw someone just put up some froyo .img files you can dd to your emmc to boot nookie froyo off of internal memory.
Also good job on not even bothering to open the developers thread and looking at the 4th post down. Much better to create garbage threads of things that have already been answered. lol
What is emmc? Bunch of threads with this word, but none explain what it is.
dont quote me here, but to my understanding its the internal memory on an android device. If i am wrong, feel free to correct me.
madfatter said:
dont quote me here, but to my understanding its the internal memory on an android device. If i am wrong, feel free to correct me.
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You are correct! The closest thing we have to a flashable rom is the froyo images
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926749
If i recall correctly, emmc stand for embedded multi-media card. It is the internal flash memory of any portable device that doesn't use a hard drive.
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JRDroid said:
If i recall correctly, emmc stand for embedded multi-media card. It is the internal flash memory of any portable device that doesn't use a hard drive.
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Ah, thanks.
So what is the difference between flashing to emmc and the normal way of flashing on phones etc? (Alternatively: when flashing to phones, where is that flashing to?)
Paul22000 said:
Ah, thanks.
So what is the difference between flashing to emmc and the normal way of flashing on phones etc? (Alternatively: when flashing to phones, where is that flashing to?)
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Nothing. All phones are basically emmc (yes, this is simplifying things a bit, when you deal with different types for rom, but i think simpler is better in this case)..
After literally days upon days of searching and multiple failed attempts with apps from the Google Play store, I have literally given up hope and burned out here to ask you, my fellow xda members, for some much needed help.
I am trying to mount my 32 GB sdcard to my LG Thrill 4G. I bought the card to replace my previous 16 BG card since I ran out of space. I know from experience with older Android devices that the main filesystem supported is FAT32. Sadly, FAT32 only supports smaller file sizes before it loses it's ability to adequately maintain its stability. I had over 16 GB of data backed up on my windows 8 PC that I transferred to my new 32 GB card (formatted to FAT32 at the time), and I then found out the results the hard way. Luckily I kept the data on my PC, because once I placed the sdcard into my phone it read only 4 GB used. It was as if over 12 GB of data transferred had never existed -_-
I then formatted the sdcard to NTFS. Since it's a much more stable filesystem it has no issues retaining all of my data, but the main problem is still the same: Android won't read NTFS by default.
I read online how some phones with the FUSE module (fuse.ko) built in could effectively read and/or write to NTFS drives with the use of some market apps such as Paragon NTFS or similar, with a rooted device of course. I checked the thread HERE for info on how to get NTFS to read and write successfully on Android, but the main kicker is still whether or not the phone possesses the FUSE module. And, of course, the LG Thrill 4G/Optimus 3D has no built in FUSE driver, which brings me to my main question in all of this:
How do you compile a fuse.ko driver from kernel source to work on an Android phone? More specifically, the LG Thrill 4G.
I've looked in Google Code, github, everywhere....nothing anywhere gives any clue as to how to create the module. There aren't even any kernels available with FUSE/NTFS support.
I'm stumped I've given up trying and failing time and time again. I need the full 32 GB of my sdcard for my data, and it even says in most specs for new smartphones anymore that up to a 32 GB card is supported.....so why hasn't Google made full NTFS or exFAT support for Android yet?
Anyone who can help is GREATLY appreciated. I believe I speak for other individuals including myself when I say a good tutorial on how to this would be worth it's weight in gold at this point. I spent over $30 on this card, and so far I've still not managed to get it to mount and read/write on my phone
Thanks in advance,
-MrDaggs
.....Nothing?
C'mon guys, I know it's probably not the easiest question out here right now, but surely SOMEONE can help me? Or perhaps direct me toward where I would need to go to learn how to do this myself? I've seen other users here on xda asking questions related to compiling the fuse.ko driver and they got an immediate answer, of course they weren'y exactly asking about how to go from step 1, but the point is the same...
ANY help on this will be greatly appreciated. Everyone here on XDA has helped me out a lot in the past, if anyone has anything to say let me know.
Thank you..
Not sure why it jacked up for you
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C'mon guys, I know it's probably not the easiest question out here right now, but surely SOMEONE can help me? Or perhaps direct me toward where I would need to go to learn how to do this myself? I've seen other users here on xda asking questions related to compiling the fuse.ko driver and they got an immediate answer, of course they weren'y exactly asking about how to go from step 1, but the point is the same...
ANY help on this will be greatly appreciated. Everyone here on XDA has helped me out a lot in the past, if anyone has anything to say let me know.
Thank you..
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I have a 32GB card and am using over half of it right now. I'd say you either have a bad card or bad data back-up.
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I have a 32GB card and am using over half of it right now. I'd say you either have a bad card or bad data back-up.
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I bought A Samsung Class 10 micro SD Card online for about $25....I plugged it into my computer first to transfer the data from my old card I had backed up onto the new card. It would reach about 20-30% finished and then tell me the drive was "corrupted and unreadable". That problem was when I at first left the filesystem unchanged (FAT32). I formatted the sd card to NTFS and tried the process again and it worked flawlessly, only now it won't read in my phone because of the NTFS filesystem :/
I gave my father a 32GB card for his Galaxy SIII a few months ago and his works fine. I don't know what might be wrong with the one I have, though....IF there is something wrong with it.
I'm beyond confused right now..
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not sure why you need to use ntfs but i think the fone should be able to mount ext2 drives ?
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not sure why you need to use ntfs but i think the fone should be able to mount ext2 drives ?
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External Hard drive
This post was from years ago, but I noticed I never posted my results. The seller I bought the card from on eBay was a fraud and was removed from the site, I received a refund. The card was corrupted out of the box, and as a result would not mount regardless of the filesystem I tried to implement. Though Android is mainly compatible with FAT32, so my efforts were in vain anyway. Thank you all for your help, this thread is now officially closed.
Hey guys,
I am REALLY impressed with what Hashcode has done (I sent him a donation, totally deserved) but I would like it if someone explained Safestrap to me a bit more in detail. I read the Safestrap thread, but I don't feel like it explained technical details of it. This is just to satisfy my curiosity of what is actually happening.
I will also ask questions about what I don't understand and I hope someone can help me understand more clearly what is happening.
Can someone help me understand the boot process of Android? From what I understand, the bootloader will only boot signed kernels, kinda like some of the new motherboards are doing (or are capable of doing). How does this differ when safestrap is introduced?
How does Safestrap "partition" or break up the different slots? Is it creating new partitions? Is it creating files that are then mounted as partitions?
Do the partitions use the same space for saving application preferences? Or is each environment (slot) separate and isolated from each other?
I'd really like to know more details! Thanks for any help and explanations.
woodsdog said:
Hey guys,
I am REALLY impressed with what Hashcode has done (I sent him a donation, totally deserved) but I would like it if someone explained Safestrap to me a bit more in detail. I read the Safestrap thread, but I don't feel like it explained technical details of it. This is just to satisfy my curiosity of what is actually happening.
I will also ask questions about what I don't understand and I hope someone can help me understand more clearly what is happening.
Can someone help me understand the boot process of Android? From what I understand, the bootloader will only boot signed kernels, kinda like some of the new motherboards are doing (or are capable of doing). How does this differ when safestrap is introduced?
How does Safestrap "partition" or break up the different slots? Is it creating new partitions? Is it creating files that are then mounted as partitions?
Do the partitions use the same space for saving application preferences? Or is each environment (slot) separate and isolated from each other?
I'd really like to know more details! Thanks for any help and explanations.
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creates virtual ROM-slots, not partitions
http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/how-to-safestrap/ it uses your freed space on your phone
woodsdog said:
Hey guys,
I am REALLY impressed with what Hashcode has done (I sent him a donation, totally deserved) but I would like it if someone explained Safestrap to me a bit more in detail. I read the Safestrap thread, but I don't feel like it explained technical details of it. This is just to satisfy my curiosity of what is actually happening.
I will also ask questions about what I don't understand and I hope someone can help me understand more clearly what is happening.
Can someone help me understand the boot process of Android? From what I understand, the bootloader will only boot signed kernels, kinda like some of the new motherboards are doing (or are capable of doing). How does this differ when safestrap is introduced?
How does Safestrap "partition" or break up the different slots? Is it creating new partitions? Is it creating files that are then mounted as partitions?
Do the partitions use the same space for saving application preferences? Or is each environment (slot) separate and isolated from each other?
I'd really like to know more details! Thanks for any help and explanations.
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Safestrap does not change your kernel. It is simply the same as multi OS boot on a PC. SS still uses the original kernel but during boot the bootloader is redirected to the ROMS you have stored in your internal RAM to load instead of the original ROM. You get a menu at boot that allows you to selc original or a slot ROM to boot from. SS as well as the ROMS for it does nothing to or with the Kernel. As of right now the kernel on this phone cannot be touched, much less modified.
So using safestrap, I can switch between stock and a modded rom at will?
jonrobertd said:
So using safestrap, I can switch between stock and a modded rom at will?
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You have to reboot, but yes you can change when you want. Just keep in mind this method consumes a large amount of internal memory. As space will be taken by each ROM in each slot.
What is a virtual rom slot? If it's a pre-determined space, then it's not just a directory on the file system.
I see you can put custom /data on there up to 4GB. What is the default system one without safestrap?
I'd be really curious to almost see this in a diagram of the internal SD card, or understand it well enough to create my own.
Still trying to understand the magic...
woodsdog said:
What is a virtual rom slot? If it's a pre-determined space, then it's not just a directory on the file system.
I see you can put custom /data on there up to 4GB. What is the default system one without safestrap?
I'd be really curious to almost see this in a diagram of the internal SD card, or understand it well enough to create my own.
Still trying to understand the magic...
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First it is not done on the SD card. it is done on the internal RAm that is 16 or 32 GB depending on your model.
Just imagine aside form the stuff that is already written to your RAM there are now reserved sections that we call slots. Those reserved sections are where the virtual ROM is kept. Just think of the internal RAM as a tower with lets just say 32 floors to keep it simple. Each of those floors are 1 GB tall. Safestrap reserves 4 each of those floors times 4 for it's own use to store ROMS in. So think of a section of that tower consisting of 16GB now belonging to Safestrap for ROM storage and use. The rest is open for the system to use but those 16 floors/slots cannot be touched by the system. I really don't know how to make it simpler and this may be too simple.
Thanks, this is extremely helpful and interesting!