Database Develop

need help with apps2sd on Fresh rom

I just installed the latest version of the fresh Rom. The page for the rom says it will automagically use apps2sd If The card is formatted properly. I use the recovery rom (1.52) to format the card, with a 32mb swap and 512mb ext. But, iapps2sd doesn't seem to be working. I have rbooted, and I have also used the recovery Rom to " move apps and dalv to SD", but the apps are still taking up the phones internal memory.
Is there something I'm missing to activate apps2sd, or move the apps over?
Thanks

http://geekfor.me/faq/apps2sd/

I used the link, and got the response that it working. So why then are the apps still taking up the phone memory? Is this the usual response? What happens when it fills up? Is there anything left for me to do?

fx17 said:
I used the link, and got the response that it working. So why then are the apps still taking up the phone memory? Is this the usual response? What happens when it fills up? Is there anything left for me to do?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Everytime you install or run things, internall memeory is still used for data and other items that are not the APK file. What is the memory amount you show as free? A2SD only moves APK's to the SD. Additionally you can move the dalvik-cache there as well, but internal memory still gets used by app data, widget data, etc.. You might have a bunch of widgets storing lots of data.
Ceger

Sorry to bring up an old thread...
I gotta say that I think there is something wrong with the version of Apps2SD on the Fresh ROM - or something isn't configured correctly.
I get the same issue (as do many others from the digging I have done) - and I KNOW that the programs I have installed aren't using up THAT much memory.
When I switch to any other ROM using A2SD - with all the same programs installed and no changes in the partitioning - I magically have 140 MB free of internal memory.
Any thoughts?

caguy83 said:
Sorry to bring up an old thread...
I gotta say that I think there is something wrong with the version of Apps2SD on the Fresh ROM - or something isn't configured correctly.
I get the same issue (as do many others from the digging I have done) - and I KNOW that the programs I have installed aren't using up THAT much memory.
When I switch to any other ROM using A2SD - with all the same programs installed and no changes in the partitioning - I magically have 140 MB free of internal memory.
Any thoughts?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It works fine for me. Just follow the instructions on link provided above by flipz

Don't forget to upgrade ext2 to ext3
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

[Q] Internal memory question

Hey guys, I tried searching to see if this was possible a repeated question but didn't find anything so I am sorry if it has already been covered and I missed it.
Anyways, a few days ago I put cyanogen froyo on my hero but didn't like it so I reverted back to my nandroid backup. Then I tried 2 different 2.1 roms that allowed LWPs, ZenHero and Regaw 2.1. I ended up reverting back to my original nandroid backup but now my internal memory only shows 34MB free, which was previously 16 until I ran cachecleaner. I'm somewhat of a noob to android and have been doing a lot of reading on here before I make any change to my phone. But the 34mb seems abnormally low. Is there any possibility that some of the previous ROMs have left data on my phone which is causing this? If so how can I go about completely wiping all of them from my system?
Again, sorry if this has been covered. I tried my best to see if it has been asked before, and thanks for any advice you may have.
I've said it before but I am really impressed with the developers here and the friendliness and helpfulness of the community here.

Which ROM?
How many apps you installed?
Are you using A2SD?
If you not using A2SD which move the App to SD card then you will run low on space on /data.
I'm hoping you talking about Internal Phone storage memory.

pbp776 said:
Which ROM?
How many apps you installed?
Are you using A2SD?
If you not using A2SD which move the App to SD card then you will run low on space on /data.
I'm hoping you talking about Internal Phone storage memory.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. Currently I am back on the nandroid backup of the original 2.1. I have put on cyanogen 2.2, ZenHero, and RegawMod on it previously. I used cyanogen twice so I was worried that maybe when I installed the second time that it installed again in a separate location taking up twice the space. If that makes sense.
2. I don't know the exact number but I wouldn't say it is anything large. Maybe in the 10-15 range. I went through the application manager and sorted by size, most of them were under 1mb with a few noteable exceptions (google maps, facebook, and soem other games around the 3mb range). I did notice that my contacts storage was 20+mb, probably because it synced with my facebook and downloaded everyones picture...not just my contacts. After clearing the cache for contacts storage it went down to 340kb. I lost the facebook sync, but it was beginning to annoy me anyway.
3. Not atm, however I should probably get on this since I just got a 4 gb class 6 sdhc. I haven't messed with the partitions yet though, baby steps.
Yes, I am talking about the internal storage. I have 3+gb free on my card.

It seems like Dalvik cache and /data/data must be using up the space.
I used to have 25 mb internal storage before I moved the apps to SD. I had space problem like this long time ago with 2.0 and 2.1. After I got mine 8 GB class 6 card two moths ago, I moved my apps to SD and my internal memory is around 60 MB since than. I haven't moved my dalvik-cache to SD.
If your using 2.1 deodexed version of the ROM, I'm guessing it normal for this ROM as it use more internal space for dalvik-cache.
Other guru might cheap in to correct my understand on deodexed version of the rom.

pbp776 said:
It seems like Dalvik cache and /data/data must be using up the space.
I used to have 25 mb internal storage before I moved the apps to SD. I had space problem like this long time ago with 2.0 and 2.1. After I got mine 8 GB class 6 card two moths ago, I moved my apps to SD and my internal memory is around 60 MB since than. I haven't moved my dalvik-cache to SD.
If your using 2.1 deodexed version of the ROM, I'm guessing it normal for this ROM as it use more internal space for dalvik-cache.
Other guru might cheap in to correct my understand on deodexed version of the rom.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks so much, I was concerned that I was somehow dwindling my memory down and fearful that another rom would brick my phone because of a lack of space. This question wasn't based on a complaint with the phone or rom, more of a request to hear something along the lines of "it's normal" to ease my mind.

Damn...I have CM6 Nightly 8-25 and I have 125 MB free of internal storage..Only have 10 apps installed. CM6 is the ****

Flashed Desire Sense rom, now virtually no internal memory??

Hi guys
I switched from my x10 to a nexus one last week, really wanted to try out Froyo, multitouch, and all the goodies that come with that.
I flashed a desire sense rom onto my nexus a couple of days ago. I didn't bother to check what the internal memory was on first boot, and perhaps I should have, but hopefully you can help anyway.
I used titanium backup to restore all of my apps. However, I got to a certain point, and my internal memory was full. So I had to cancel the process, and then start a new batch process in titanium backup to move all the apps to the sd card. This seemed fine, I started again to restore all the previously unrestored apps. Then, sooner than before, the same thing happened again. So I cancelled the process and moved all apps to the sd card. This went on, to the point where I'm at now, that I have so little internal memory I can't install any more apps! Even though I have supposedly shifted all my apps to the sd card. I have no idea what has happened this memory, where has it gone? How do I reclaim it? What is it that is taking it up, if all my apps are on my sd card instead? :-S
Thanks for the help as always guys, any tips are much appreciated.

Download DiskUsage from the market (you may have to uninstall something first).
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

When you restore from titanium after flashing a rom just restore missing apps and data NOT all system data, just fyi
or just do basic apps you need
if you are going to run sense roms you should use amon_ra 2.0.0 to set up an ext3 partition. Some roms move the a2sd auto after you reboot right after flashing rom and some use Dark Tremor that they include in rom. Just need to be sure.
ken

Thanks for the tip about titanium, I'll remember that for the next time.
I ran DiskUsage, seems I have 96.3MB of system data... Is all of this essential, or is there any way for me to clear some of it? How did it all get there in the first place?
Thanks guys.

that seems awful high for system mem free. sure it isn't internal free memory your seeing
not familiar with diskusage, if it shows all, good
i like quick system shows all mem info. maybe just duplicates diskusage, don't know
interested to know internal free memory

According to disk usage, out of a total of 196.2MB internal memory,
79.8MB is used by apps (presumably those which must be stored locally)
96.3MB system data
and 20.2MB free space.
Does this help?

rugmankc said:
that seems awful high for system mem free. sure it isn't internal free memory your seeing
not familiar with diskusage, if it shows all, good
i like quick system shows all mem info. maybe just duplicates diskusage, don't know
interested to know internal free memory
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ask the right questions, that is not a large amount of system memory if he is using the new sense 2.0 roms
, are you using the new desireHD rom / mytouch 4g, with sense 2.0, these roms are large, leaving very little space on the device, if it is one of these you will have setup an ext partition on your sdcard,
if you have flashed the desireHD rom plug your phone into pc
from cmd type
adb shell stop
adb shell
a2sd repair
hit ctrl+c to back out
adb shell start
this should move all apps from the /data/app partition into your sd-ext partition, which has much more free space

those don't sound right, doesn't it say "internal free memory" and 20.63mb free which is the internal is very low
I go back into TB and scroll down and delete apps from previous rom and then refresh. If you did select "restore all apps and system data" may be why internal is low. Don't think you cancahnge that till next rom flash. If it is working you can nandroid for now and think about Dark Tremor.

I used "eViL-NXSense-v.1.25", this was the ROM that I flashed.
How much free memory would you expect with this? And also, how come the memory went down as I installed apps, even though I moved them to the external memory?

petecdun said:
I used "eViL-NXSense-v.1.25", this was the ROM that I flashed.
How much free memory would you expect with this? And also, how come the memory went down as I installed apps, even though I moved them to the external memory?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
right, an AOSP rom will leave you with about 70-90 MB, not exactly sure with a sense rom but i doubt there would me much left to play with as the nexus was built without sense
the reason your space still goes down is because when you install the app, it is dexopted and the code is optimized, this optimized code is specific for your phone and is stored on your data partition, so even though your moving the actual app to your sdcard, the optimized code (Dalvik cache) is still stored on your phone, as the same for any app data.
my advice, and what i always use is Apps2Ext this is using a seperate partition on your memory card dedicated to installing apps, if you have one setup already great, if not
backup everything on your SDcard and partition it with your recovery software, when asked, choose 512MB ext, 0 swap, and the rest (FAT), copy all your stuff back to your SDcard, as well as this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715940
flash that through the recovery, it will move all your apps from the data/app folder to the new partition you made on your sdcard and link data/app to that folder so any new apps you install will automatically be installed there

I have MicroMod2.10 sense which is auto a2sd, you need an ext3 partition to get more free.
I have 93mb free internal. Normal can be 75 to 120
Your system free mem sounds high
FYI: If you partition with amon or rommgr/cwmod it wipes sd card.
I just messed up my sdcard and had to reformat it, not ext partition, left it alone, thru Mini Partition Tool Wizard and sd card reader. The reader is the only thing that confirms I have ext 3. DT always shows ext2 and rommgr seems to do only ext2. Amon can do ext3, 512mb, 0 Swap
You need to get in habit of backing sdcard regularly, not necessarily all everytime, if a particular folder like videos or pics hasn't changed. They are high mem only.

Beat You bagofcrap24
I usually am on the losing end
Ken

[Q] Convert SDCard to MainMem so External_SD becomes SDCard?

Hi there,
Is there a way to make the add the internal SD card to the main memmory? So that there would not be an internal SD card anymore?
I do not mean swapping the moutpoints around so my External_SD becomes my primary and my internal my second....
I want to get rid of the internal one alltogether (adding it to main memory).
I figure that I'll have to format the storage in a certain way... would that do it?
Can someone tell me step by step what to do?
I do have CW-mod installed.
I did search the forum, but couldnt find anything conclusive. Just hints that it should be possible...
If there already is a thread where all this is explained, please point me to it, because I couldn't find it.
Thanks,
Pfeffa-rah

I don't think this is possible , never heard of someone who did it

I have no idea how to do that. My question is... why would you want to do that?
Having an internal_sd partition adds the benefit of having big app data (such as those in Gameloft games) sit in a very fast partition and still be called "sddata".
Also, it's mountable via PC so everything in there can still be backed up. So it's best of both worlds really.

This was discussed some time ago in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013575
There were ideas on how to remount the cards at boot. I myself come to the conclusion that since more phones start to behave in this way, app developers will have to start dealing with it. It just sucks they are mostly slow on the uptake. My main problem was the Spotify cache location being hard coded so I resorted to hack the Spotify apk.
PS. salisbury_steak: What is it with people like you that every time someone has a question on how to do something, your immediate response is "But why would you want to do that?!".

sorech said:
PS. salisbury_steak: What is it with people like you that every time someone has a question on how to do something, your immediate response is "But why would you want to do that?!".
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That was actually an honest question.
I wanted to understand why he wanted to do it. (i.e. What would be the advantages of it.) There was no supposed sarcasm in there.

how about the ability to install 5x more applications?

Having that stupid 5gb partition as sd card and the real sd card as a sub folder is retarded...
My 32GB class 10 cars is a lot faster than the internal one.
The internal 5gb memory is MUCH TOO SMALL!!! Most apps don't allow you to store data on the external card. If you like me and many others install some games that download aditional data + a nav app that downloads maps for europe + some streaming music app like wimp that can cache music for offline play then you are ****ed with LG's setup.
The setup CM7 uses solves the main problem but effectively wastes the 5gb by mounting it at emmc where like 0,0001% of apps are able to access it.
So adding those otherwise wasted 5gb to the main memory would be great. But i have not seen any solution to that yet :-(

Thank you Gensplejs for explaining that to them. I had no idea how to reply to that since it seemed so obvious to me.
This thread was ment to be a question about how to do it and not to discuss the usefullness of it. That is where I lost the way in other threads...
So, thanks for your replys all (realy).
But now, back On-Topic:
How would I do it?
Sent from my LG-P990 using XDA Premium App

Please don't blame me if you tried it and you screwed up your phone.. It's your choice...
Well, I don't know if this would work, but this is how I would do it (accepting the fact that I'd loose almost 2GB of /data's free space):
1. Format your internal sd card to the same file system as your /data partition is (ext3 or ext4)
2. Copy every file from /data 1:1 to your sdcard (cp -R /data/* /sdcard)
3. I don't know when and where the partitions are mounted (maybe init.rc??)...anyways change the target there and let /data point to the internal sd card partition (so it is ensured that it is mounted automatically to the new location)
4. Reboot and keep your fingers crossed

I think i figured how to do it in theory. First we need some free space at our microsd to cp /data. Then we should repartition with fdisk /dev/block/mmcblk0p8 and p9 into one partition and change vold.fstab to mount only externalsd at /sdcard as we do when we swap partitions. In theory it should work but i cant test it right now or make a script since ve gone vacations and i dont have a pc to restore in case of error

I agree.. certain apps wont store to sdcard.. its better to use the whole 8gb as phone storage, and use external sdcard as default sdcard.
Sent from my LG-P990 using XDA App

What ive found till now is that sd swapping is easy. You can do it by tweaking only vold.fstab. But repatriationing is a pain in the ass. Looks like lg has "faulty" partitions or something and to do it you must mesh up with with almost half partitions.
I had to rebuilt boot lgdrm recovery data and sdcard to make em half work. So it probably isnt worth the trouble. Also I think init.rc is built on the boot. So just remounting internal sd to /data wont work either.

sectors is not space
it says 7996, so thats 8GB

i saw it in hurry. the brain sometimes belives whats he want to belive
sorry

New to XDA
Hello everybody,
I'm new to android and i'm trying to find out how to solve the problem posted in this thread.
I see you've got the awnser but i don't know how to do this.
I've been searching google and XDA for ever but i just can't find the awnser.
Could you make a step by step howto or point out to a post how to do this.
I mean converting your external sd to ext4 and change the mounting points.
I'm a complete nood, i didn't get adb to work on my pc, ext4 recovery is not for the p990 2x.
I've read something abbout changing fstap for swapping te mounting points for sdcard and emmc, witch is also ok for me, but formating to ext4... wel i frankly don't know how to do this.
I'm quite stuk on this.
The only partitioning experience i've got is Gparted in Ubuntu or repartitioning in Windows 7.
Thans in andvance!
Greetz,
JMG

http://android.modaco.com/topic/347...-partitions/page__gopid__1821791#entry1821791
check this
you can expand data partition , but there is a limitation of 1.75gb

Thanks davjan
Thanks davjan,
As far i can see it's indeed not worth it.
I wil have to go on and try to find out how to change the filesystem to ext4 and swap the internal and external sd.
That way i get more usable space instead of a big datastorage witch cannot contain program data.
But thanks for the quick reply.

Jean Michel Gaar said:
Thanks davjan,
As far i can see it's indeed not worth it.
I wil have to go on and try to find out how to change the filesystem to ext4 and swap the internal and external sd.
That way i get more usable space instead of a big datastorage witch cannot contain program data.
But thanks for the quick reply.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what rom are you using? is your phone rooted?
swapping internal with internal sd is very easy
and most of the roms here on xda are ext4 , if you instal one of them they autoconvert to ext4

Jean Michel Gaar said:
Thanks davjan,
As far i can see it's indeed not worth it.
I wil have to go on and try to find out how to change the filesystem to ext4 and swap the internal and external sd.
That way i get more usable space instead of a big datastorage witch cannot contain program data.
But thanks for the quick reply.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I you read the link provided you'll see that it makes what you want: grow internal filesystem = lower SDcard usable space. The only thing is that it doesn't seem possible is to use the whole space: system limitation. 75Markus tried high /system and /data values and phone didn't work.
See in his Mediafire Folder, 'Nvflash + guide for changing Partitions:
http://www.mediafire.com/75markus
Ext4 is now common with custom ROMs (in fact all of them).
You should search in sd-ext partition system, which was designed to artificially expand filesystem on older phones using an 'ext' partition. I didn't heard anybody using this on O2X.
If you use CyanogenMod based ROMs, your external card will be mounted ad /sdcard by default.

Switching internal and external SD
Thanks guy's,
I'll check it out.
I've been using cyanogenmod 7.1 stable with vorkkernel 20110208.
But that gave me batterydrains while using maps and nextvid ate the same time (while i'm driving).
Now i'm trying MIUI 1.11.11 with latest swift extreme.
But MIUI is very buggy so i'm thinking of going back to CM.
The only thing is that my phone won't boot with the latest vorkkernel.

Can I increase the 3.2 data partition size or make it just one data partition

I have a Dell Streak 7 (T-Mobile version) 3.2 Honeycomb, installed via "[Guide]New HC Rom: 506/507 + Installation Instructions [Including US 4G]". Everything works great, except I have run out of application space.
I have over 11 gigs free, but with 3.2 you can't install anything on the internal SD, or external SD for that matter. I bought 32gig SD cards to store files, I want all the internal storage for Applications and settings.
How can I make the internal storage be one large data partition or at least increase the data partition size, while decreasing the internal SD size.
And for how I ran out, the free apps from Google and Amazon. I have about 200 from the Amazon Free App A Day promotion alone.

aquillasupra said:
I have a Dell Streak 7 (T-Mobile version) 3.2 Honeycomb, installed via "[Guide]New HC Rom: 506/507 + Installation Instructions [Including US 4G]". Everything works great, except I have run out of application space.
I have over 11 gigs free, but with 3.2 you can't install anything on the internal SD, or external SD for that matter. I bought 32gig SD cards to store files, I want all the internal storage for Applications and settings.
How can I make the internal storage be one large data partition or at least increase the data partition size, while decreasing the internal SD size.
And for how I ran out, the free apps from Google and Amazon. I have about 200 from the Amazon Free App A Day promotion alone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My suggestion to you is to flash DJ Steve's HoneyStreak using the NVFlash method. Inside the folder he allows for up to a 6GB app partition if you wanna take it that far... as far as I know of that's the only way to repartition your internal SD.
Create backups of all those apps, create backup of everything on your internal sd because the process is going to wipe everything, and then reinstall and copy back

Any Fixes?
Even I am stuck there. Did anybody find any solution to this.
Can I use the CWM to create a new data partition? I am having rooted Stock 3.2.

rguptan said:
Even I am stuck there. Did anybody find any solution to this.
Can I use the CWM to create a new data partition? I am having rooted Stock 3.2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you not read my post, THAT is the easiest solution... I can't think of any way to install 6 gigs of apps, but some people just don't know when to quit installing without realizing what it does to the OS... and even that can be modified if you know how to configure the specific sectors of the internal SD, but I have no experience with that

cdzo72 said:
I can't think of any way to install 6 gigs of apps, but some people just don't know when to quit installing without realizing what it does to the OS...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But 6 gb?= I think thats quite enough to use 100+ apps.

exebreez said:
But 6 gb?= I think thats quite enough to use 100+ apps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm with you man but I get so frustrated by the noobs that don't realize the reason they were given the option to install to SD in the first place... back in those days when it was necessary and apps were actually coded to run well off an external SD it was ok, but they don't understand that most apps these days prohibit it for many reasons, they just demand too much to run off the external SD and they don't seem to wanna use their brains and wrap their heads around the idea that there's no sense in having hundreds of apps installed... hopefully within the next year those types will either move to the iPhones they should be using because they have no business using a flexible android device or they will frustrated and get talked into buy a brokenglass (windows) phone

I think you should stop using your power to think about those fags.
At this point the question of the OP is answered, isnt it?
If there is another question to this topic please write down. For other questions make a thread.
Btw. whos afraid of asking, is free to PM me, ill answer in max 24h.

exebreez said:
I think you should stop using your power to think about those fags.
At this point the question of the OP is answered, isnt it?
If there is another question to this topic please write down. For other questions make a thread.
Btw. whos afraid of asking, is free to PM me, ill answer in max 24h.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Within the thread the question may be answered several times, that won't stop a noob from asking it again, much less keep a moderator from pointing out it has already been asked and solved

cdzo72 said:
Within the thread the question may be answered several times, that won't stop a noob from asking it again, much less keep a moderator from pointing out it has already been asked and solved
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The noob isnt the you who is guilty so its sinless.

This is what I ended up doing
From the CWM recovery I created a ext3 partition on my SD Card and use Link2SD from market.
Thanks to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490563&highlight=link2sd
To resize the partition later I had used GParted from a linux live CD.

Honeystreak partition method
I wanted to test a theory on this myself. So I will start with saying I am running 3.2 official with 514(rooted). I use 514 to be able to use my dock. Love me or hate me.
1) I did a nandroid backup on my sd card. I used my app backup tool to backup my apps just in case.
2) I flashed Honeystreak R2 using NVFLASH.
3) I then placed Honeystreak R8 on my sd card with the text file as instructed. and then installed the zip using CWM.
4) I then fastbooted the latest (and greatest) CWM 5.0.2.8
5) Then booted CWM 5.0.2.8 and flashed my Nandroid Backup.
6) CHA-CHING!!!!
I was able to keep the 4 GB partition that was created using the Honeystreak R2 NVFLASH.
This is tested and it works so you can get up to 6GB using this method.