Hey guys, I tried searching to see if this was possible a repeated question but didn't find anything so I am sorry if it has already been covered and I missed it.
Anyways, a few days ago I put cyanogen froyo on my hero but didn't like it so I reverted back to my nandroid backup. Then I tried 2 different 2.1 roms that allowed LWPs, ZenHero and Regaw 2.1. I ended up reverting back to my original nandroid backup but now my internal memory only shows 34MB free, which was previously 16 until I ran cachecleaner. I'm somewhat of a noob to android and have been doing a lot of reading on here before I make any change to my phone. But the 34mb seems abnormally low. Is there any possibility that some of the previous ROMs have left data on my phone which is causing this? If so how can I go about completely wiping all of them from my system?
Again, sorry if this has been covered. I tried my best to see if it has been asked before, and thanks for any advice you may have.
I've said it before but I am really impressed with the developers here and the friendliness and helpfulness of the community here.
Which ROM?
How many apps you installed?
Are you using A2SD?
If you not using A2SD which move the App to SD card then you will run low on space on /data.
I'm hoping you talking about Internal Phone storage memory.
pbp776 said:
Which ROM?
How many apps you installed?
Are you using A2SD?
If you not using A2SD which move the App to SD card then you will run low on space on /data.
I'm hoping you talking about Internal Phone storage memory.
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1. Currently I am back on the nandroid backup of the original 2.1. I have put on cyanogen 2.2, ZenHero, and RegawMod on it previously. I used cyanogen twice so I was worried that maybe when I installed the second time that it installed again in a separate location taking up twice the space. If that makes sense.
2. I don't know the exact number but I wouldn't say it is anything large. Maybe in the 10-15 range. I went through the application manager and sorted by size, most of them were under 1mb with a few noteable exceptions (google maps, facebook, and soem other games around the 3mb range). I did notice that my contacts storage was 20+mb, probably because it synced with my facebook and downloaded everyones picture...not just my contacts. After clearing the cache for contacts storage it went down to 340kb. I lost the facebook sync, but it was beginning to annoy me anyway.
3. Not atm, however I should probably get on this since I just got a 4 gb class 6 sdhc. I haven't messed with the partitions yet though, baby steps.
Yes, I am talking about the internal storage. I have 3+gb free on my card.
It seems like Dalvik cache and /data/data must be using up the space.
I used to have 25 mb internal storage before I moved the apps to SD. I had space problem like this long time ago with 2.0 and 2.1. After I got mine 8 GB class 6 card two moths ago, I moved my apps to SD and my internal memory is around 60 MB since than. I haven't moved my dalvik-cache to SD.
If your using 2.1 deodexed version of the ROM, I'm guessing it normal for this ROM as it use more internal space for dalvik-cache.
Other guru might cheap in to correct my understand on deodexed version of the rom.
pbp776 said:
It seems like Dalvik cache and /data/data must be using up the space.
I used to have 25 mb internal storage before I moved the apps to SD. I had space problem like this long time ago with 2.0 and 2.1. After I got mine 8 GB class 6 card two moths ago, I moved my apps to SD and my internal memory is around 60 MB since than. I haven't moved my dalvik-cache to SD.
If your using 2.1 deodexed version of the ROM, I'm guessing it normal for this ROM as it use more internal space for dalvik-cache.
Other guru might cheap in to correct my understand on deodexed version of the rom.
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Thanks so much, I was concerned that I was somehow dwindling my memory down and fearful that another rom would brick my phone because of a lack of space. This question wasn't based on a complaint with the phone or rom, more of a request to hear something along the lines of "it's normal" to ease my mind.
Damn...I have CM6 Nightly 8-25 and I have 125 MB free of internal storage..Only have 10 apps installed. CM6 is the ****
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Ok Guys, new to this site, hopefully y'all can help me out.
I recently rooted my G1, Installed the latest Cyanogen (4.7.2.1) and installed a theme ( Marks Theme). I dont have very many apps cause I didnt want to bog down the phone memory.....
I love the set up but it started running slower even after I started running the over clocker widget.
My phone is only showing 14.18 MB of free internal memory. I went through my applications installed and can only find around 25 MB being used from all installed apps ( including browser and messaging etc.)
I even tried to do a factory reset ( by going through the settings) and the factory reset is not working. It changed nothing.
Is there something that Im missing? I feel like I should have much more free memory.
I love the way my phone works and the set up, I just wish it had more free memory so that it would run faster.
Ive thought about doing the Apps2SD but I feel like I chould have much more memory on my phone even before doing something like that.
PLEASE HELP!!!!!!
This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.
You could always upgrade to the new amon ra and then let it partition the sd card for you.Then you can have all that free phone storage for whatever it is.Bext time just try to restrict yourself from posting in wrong section
-Best regards
IConrad01 said:
This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.
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Thank you for the quick response. Is there a way to move this thread?
Also is there a better ROM that will take up less memory? I like this version but obviously it is wayy to large.
Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?
Most people using the Cyanogen ROM also utilize A2SD. Partition your SD card and you'll get more room.
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Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?
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There is no issue, you just don't have an ext partition ergo, all applications are installed to your phone which is why you have low phone memory.
pewterwest said:
Thank you for the quick response. Is there a way to move this thread?
Also is there a better ROM that will take up less memory? I like this version but obviously it is wayy to large.
Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?
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Hello! app2SD will put the apps to ext...Then you will have more memory, why do you think people use it? To save even more money on geico?
Go here for the amon recovery...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669
Hi, first of this has nothing to do with development, should be in Q&A. Please remember for next time
OK, when you're on a custom ROM, don't use factory reset. Instead boot in to the recovery image and perform a wipe from there, and that's exactly what I'd suggest. Be prepared to loose everything stored on the phones memory, but you can use a backup app from the market for that... No you really should way more space than that, I can't really explain why...
IConrad01 said:
This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.
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The phone has two main partitions: /system and /data. It isn't /system that's filling up, it's /data (which makes sense...). The phone can't write to /system when it's unrooted, so it's not possible to store files there...
Everyone is trying to help but for a noob it can be a bit too much...4.2.7.1 is the best Rom available so keep that....RA Recovery is the best way to set up your memory card to accept your apps and keep them there freeing up a ton of space on the phone....simple way to fix is....Just format you sdcard with EXT3 using the RA-recovery v1.5.1 then once your card is formatted just reboot and Cyanogen's rom will move all the apps for you.....will not need to wipe any info on the phone that way...done it many times......Pm me if you need help!!!!
EDIT:
some threads to help:
Ra - Recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669
OR-
[REF] manual partition of sdcard w/parted,goto ext3/4 from adb. no liveCD req'd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534714
Young Money. Cash Money.
(partition sd card)
The non rooted standard T-Mobile rom is about the same size and will give you about the same amount of free space. There could be a more barebones rom but I think it's just a lot easier to run Apps2SD then to create a rom that might get you an extra 10mb of internal space. This is the fault of the internal memory on the phone being small. The only way to fix that is getting Apps2sd running which if you make a partion of 100mb should be enough to install all the apps you need. Getting a larger SD card for $10 is also another option so you wont have 1/10th of your sd cards storage gone.
djdarkknight96 said:
Everyone is trying to help but for a noob it can be a bit too much...4.2.7.1 is the best Rom available so keep that....RA Recovery is the best way to set up your memory card to accept your apps and keep them there freeing up a ton of space on the phone....simple way to fix is....Just format you sdcard with EXT3 using the RA-recovery v1.5.1 then once your card is formatted just reboot and Cyanogen's rom will move all the apps for you.....will not need to wipe any info on the phone that way...done it many times......Pm me if you need help!!!!
EDIT:
some threads to help:
Ra - Recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669
OR-
[REF] manual partition of sdcard w/parted,goto ext3/4 from adb. no liveCD req'd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534714
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Guys thank you very much for your help..... i partioned my sd and now i have 58.8 MB free on internal.... you guys are great.
Is there anything else i can do besides rooting, apps2sd and overclocker to make even faster?
pewterwest said:
Guys thank you very much for your help..... i partioned my sd and now i have 58.8 MB free on internal.... you guys are great.
Is there anything else i can do besides rooting, apps2sd and overclocker to make even faster?
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You can always try different roms. CM is good and fast, but maybe try dwang 1.13 or Wesgarner version. wg is based on CM. I find it faster and more stable but this is just my opinion. if you back everything up with nandroid and some app like mybackup, you can flash all you want. you'll be able to get everything back with a nandroid/mybackup restore. try different stuff out and figure out what you like!
Rooted G1, 8g microSD. Had been running CM for months with no real issues. Was running w/ fat32/ext2/swap partitions and all apps were installing to card(ext) w/o exception. Recently decided to try another rom, so wiped, repartitioned, etc etc. Didn't like rom. Back to CM. I have been trying on and off now for 3 weeks to get apps to install to sd w/ no luck. Tried repartitioning on pc via gparted, partitioning via recovery (AmonRa). Tried defanged/cm/radio, even dropped back to rc29 and then back up from there. Same issue. Once I get CM installed, all installed apps seem to be reducing internal memory unlike my original CM install. Only thing I haven't tried is using a different card, although I don't understand why a fully repartitioned/reformatted card would not work fine.
Anyone have any suggestions on how to resolve this issue?
BTW, I hate to post a message with a topic that is present in so many others, but trust me, I've read a load of posts and still can't figure out what's happening.
Tnx,
MisterP0P0
Y did u repartition after switching roms, all u need is a wipe before the flash
How much system space are you talking about?
If you're showing 70+Mb's w/ the stock or Hard SPL or 80+MB's w/ the Danger SPL your apps are being stored on your SD card <- This applies to Cyanogen builds, probably other donut based builds also
Some of the sytem apps will remain on your internal storage, and with each app install your internal storage will decrease slightly but should not decrease by the full size of the app
All may be well.... seem to be hovering around 61 megs free. I've installed 10 apps or so...
Yep... it's working. Now to decide whether to use swap a/o compcache. Any suggestions?
hey fellow Nexus One owners. Our phone is fantastic isn't it? Except for ONE thing... internal memory!!!
So my question #1 of the day (there's a 2nd one, for another thread, and it's dumber)
I am running:
Nexus One 2.2.1 Stock
Rooted via rageagainstthecage exploit
Running a donate version of Titanium Backup
so here it is: Is it safe to use the batch operation to "Move User Apps to SD card" ?
I have just tried it with my MOTONAV gps (it installed like 32mb on my internal memory, grrr) and it moved about 12mb to the SD ... will that be all?
Also, are there apps considered "UNSAFE" to move to the SD?
If you guys say go ahead, I'm going to move literally everything (Including Adobe Flash Player and so on...)
Thanks!
totally forgot I posted this
so anyways, turns out when you move stuff with Titanium, it's the same thing really... it moves SOME but not ALL the data of the app... anyways, saved a bit of room by moving the Motonav GPS app (used to be 32mb internal, now 18mb internal and the rest is dumped on the SD)
Here's hoping the Samsung google experience phone will have more internal memory for apps...
Hi guys
I switched from my x10 to a nexus one last week, really wanted to try out Froyo, multitouch, and all the goodies that come with that.
I flashed a desire sense rom onto my nexus a couple of days ago. I didn't bother to check what the internal memory was on first boot, and perhaps I should have, but hopefully you can help anyway.
I used titanium backup to restore all of my apps. However, I got to a certain point, and my internal memory was full. So I had to cancel the process, and then start a new batch process in titanium backup to move all the apps to the sd card. This seemed fine, I started again to restore all the previously unrestored apps. Then, sooner than before, the same thing happened again. So I cancelled the process and moved all apps to the sd card. This went on, to the point where I'm at now, that I have so little internal memory I can't install any more apps! Even though I have supposedly shifted all my apps to the sd card. I have no idea what has happened this memory, where has it gone? How do I reclaim it? What is it that is taking it up, if all my apps are on my sd card instead? :-S
Thanks for the help as always guys, any tips are much appreciated.
Download DiskUsage from the market (you may have to uninstall something first).
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
When you restore from titanium after flashing a rom just restore missing apps and data NOT all system data, just fyi
or just do basic apps you need
if you are going to run sense roms you should use amon_ra 2.0.0 to set up an ext3 partition. Some roms move the a2sd auto after you reboot right after flashing rom and some use Dark Tremor that they include in rom. Just need to be sure.
ken
Thanks for the tip about titanium, I'll remember that for the next time.
I ran DiskUsage, seems I have 96.3MB of system data... Is all of this essential, or is there any way for me to clear some of it? How did it all get there in the first place?
Thanks guys.
that seems awful high for system mem free. sure it isn't internal free memory your seeing
not familiar with diskusage, if it shows all, good
i like quick system shows all mem info. maybe just duplicates diskusage, don't know
interested to know internal free memory
According to disk usage, out of a total of 196.2MB internal memory,
79.8MB is used by apps (presumably those which must be stored locally)
96.3MB system data
and 20.2MB free space.
Does this help?
rugmankc said:
that seems awful high for system mem free. sure it isn't internal free memory your seeing
not familiar with diskusage, if it shows all, good
i like quick system shows all mem info. maybe just duplicates diskusage, don't know
interested to know internal free memory
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ask the right questions, that is not a large amount of system memory if he is using the new sense 2.0 roms
, are you using the new desireHD rom / mytouch 4g, with sense 2.0, these roms are large, leaving very little space on the device, if it is one of these you will have setup an ext partition on your sdcard,
if you have flashed the desireHD rom plug your phone into pc
from cmd type
adb shell stop
adb shell
a2sd repair
hit ctrl+c to back out
adb shell start
this should move all apps from the /data/app partition into your sd-ext partition, which has much more free space
those don't sound right, doesn't it say "internal free memory" and 20.63mb free which is the internal is very low
I go back into TB and scroll down and delete apps from previous rom and then refresh. If you did select "restore all apps and system data" may be why internal is low. Don't think you cancahnge that till next rom flash. If it is working you can nandroid for now and think about Dark Tremor.
I used "eViL-NXSense-v.1.25", this was the ROM that I flashed.
How much free memory would you expect with this? And also, how come the memory went down as I installed apps, even though I moved them to the external memory?
petecdun said:
I used "eViL-NXSense-v.1.25", this was the ROM that I flashed.
How much free memory would you expect with this? And also, how come the memory went down as I installed apps, even though I moved them to the external memory?
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right, an AOSP rom will leave you with about 70-90 MB, not exactly sure with a sense rom but i doubt there would me much left to play with as the nexus was built without sense
the reason your space still goes down is because when you install the app, it is dexopted and the code is optimized, this optimized code is specific for your phone and is stored on your data partition, so even though your moving the actual app to your sdcard, the optimized code (Dalvik cache) is still stored on your phone, as the same for any app data.
my advice, and what i always use is Apps2Ext this is using a seperate partition on your memory card dedicated to installing apps, if you have one setup already great, if not
backup everything on your SDcard and partition it with your recovery software, when asked, choose 512MB ext, 0 swap, and the rest (FAT), copy all your stuff back to your SDcard, as well as this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715940
flash that through the recovery, it will move all your apps from the data/app folder to the new partition you made on your sdcard and link data/app to that folder so any new apps you install will automatically be installed there
I have MicroMod2.10 sense which is auto a2sd, you need an ext3 partition to get more free.
I have 93mb free internal. Normal can be 75 to 120
Your system free mem sounds high
FYI: If you partition with amon or rommgr/cwmod it wipes sd card.
I just messed up my sdcard and had to reformat it, not ext partition, left it alone, thru Mini Partition Tool Wizard and sd card reader. The reader is the only thing that confirms I have ext 3. DT always shows ext2 and rommgr seems to do only ext2. Amon can do ext3, 512mb, 0 Swap
You need to get in habit of backing sdcard regularly, not necessarily all everytime, if a particular folder like videos or pics hasn't changed. They are high mem only.
Beat You bagofcrap24
I usually am on the losing end
Ken
hi all .. i use link2sd to link all my apps to my sd card..this should give me alot of space ...i used to use lewa rom and i have 2xx apps and themes but when i switch to sgs2 rom i decided to delete som apps i hardly use / themes and now there is about 120apps but then when i start to download some games my memory went to 2mb only ?? is this bug ?
this happens to me when i change from lewa to old cm7 fat. ext4 seems lost. and i need to transfers all files to sd using app2sd manually. s2e didnt work.
it was ok now after i changed to stock lite ..i tink it;s a bug
Used link2sd long time on stock rom, very good tool but it seems not work very good with titanium. It works, but after recovering all apps i had very little memory, but all apps are on sd-ext. I moved one after the other to sd, back to phone and then 2 sd.ext, that works and i got much more space. Dont know why, but this procedure was very hard, because of less rom space moving 10 apps to phone, moving to ext and so on.....
But now im using cm7-FAT and s2e, moved dalvic, apps, data and cache to sd, so i have 171! MB free space on phone. No need to have so much space on phone, but whats the best: Phone ice noticeable faster than before, seems that my sandisk class4 sdcard is faster than phone memory, i wondered, but it is so, feels really faster ;-)
regards
I have never been able to set up Link2SD perfectly. In addition, Link2SD makes soft link which makes internal memory little bit usable though. Also, It can not be configured to be on external storage for widget or themes. I remember installing ~50 Apps I had just 60MBs free. But, with S2E I am boss! It serves all needs perefectly. A lot better than Link2SD.
As i said, link2sd works fine for me long time, the graphical interface is very good for managing where your apps should be.
All widgets and tools that never work with standard app2sd (on fat-sdpartition) work as they should do.
Problem is the lack of moving dalvic-cache and other data, so i had ~45MB free, with nearly 100 apps installed. Thats fine, but as i said before, after backing up its sometimes tricky to get all the apps on sd-ext again.
And after some time, phone gets fuller and fuller, i think because of cached data or somewhat.
So with s2e (works on cm7, on stock darktremor a2sd will do nearly the same...) all data are on sd, wich is very good for me, as i said before, performance is better now.....
regards
s2e works Fine in all Cm7.x based roms.
for link2sd user, IMHO this is a very good tutorial [TUT]install apps as much as you can, DON'T WORRY ABOUT MEMORY!![reUPDATED][FAQ's]
I have s2e and successfully moved apps, dalvik, and cache to sd-ext.. but my data (/data/data) cannot be moved to sd-ext... can anyone help me with this? my sd card is RiData 16gb class 10 with 1gb ext3 partition...
edit: found my fix. i have to enable the advanced option in the settings... now i have 170mb free in internal! haha!
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tohno said:
hi all .. i use link2sd to link all my apps to my sd card..this should give me alot of space ...i used to use lewa rom and i have 2xx apps and themes but when i switch to sgs2 rom i decided to delete som apps i hardly use / themes and now there is about 120apps but then when i start to download some games my memory went to 2mb only ?? is this bug ?
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Haha. Found the problem as soon as I read the first line. Links2SD doesn't move everything to the SD card. Let me explain...
I switched to a stock based rom the other day and since S2E doesn't work for stock, I had to google something up and came back to Links2SD. I've used it before but I've had some problems with it. After I was restoring my 97 apps with titanium, not even half way through and it says my device is running out of memory. When I checked Links2SD, everything was on the SD card and yet the internal memory was getting taken up completely.
My fix? I said **** stock roms and went back to CM7 with S2E. It moves everything to the EXT partition as soon as you install it. I restored all of my 97 apps one after another WITH NO ISSUE AT ALL. Only problem I had is that I had to move some apps that use widgets back to internal because the widgets won't work installed on the SD.
Check out the guide on my signature. Cyanogenmod for life. Never again shall I go back to stock.
S2E FTW. I have faced problwm plenty of times what just superace explained. There isn't a useless reason I put that sentence about link2sd in my signature.
SuperAce609 said:
Haha. Found the problem as soon as I read the first line. Links2SD doesn't move everything to the SD card. Let me explain...
I switched to a stock based rom the other day and since S2E doesn't work for stock, I had to google something up and came back to Links2SD. I've used it before but I've had some problems with it. After I was restoring my 97 apps with titanium, not even half way through and it says my device is running out of memory. When I checked Links2SD, everything was on the SD card and yet the internal memory was getting taken up completely.
My fix? I said **** stock roms and went back to CM7 with S2E. It moves everything to the EXT partition as soon as you install it. I restored all of my 97 apps one after another WITH NO ISSUE AT ALL. Only problem I had is that I had to move some apps that use widgets back to internal because the widgets won't work installed on the SD.
Check out the guide on my signature. Cyanogenmod for life. Never again shall I go back to stock.
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All Widgets work, if on internal storage, but with s2e sd-ext is like internal, partition is mounted at boot.
Widgets dont work, if they are on normal sd-space (mounted much later, i think), which is fat32.
I have 1024MB sd-ext and all apps on it, all work, even widgets or others who need to be on phonespace normally. And i think its impossible to move some of them to "real" internal space selectively, only link2sd can do this, or am i wrong?
However, a2sd or s2e seems to be the best solution, if you have very much apps, cause it moves nearly all data to sd...
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My fix? I said **** stock roms and went back to CM7 with S2E. It moves everything to the EXT partition as soon as you install it. I restored all of my 97 apps one after another WITH NO ISSUE AT ALL. Only problem I had is that I had to move some apps that use widgets back to internal because the widgets won't work installed on the SD.
Check out the guide on my signature. Cyanogenmod for life. Never again shall I go back to stock.
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@SuperAce609,
I'm completely agree with you. This is the only reason why I also haven't gone to stock ROMs like that SGSII by Rushabh. But, one thing you haven't got right about S2E is Widgets' memory location. With S2E, that partition is mounted as internal memory at the start up. All I am saying is, Widgets moved to sd-ext DO work perfectly. I know it, because I am a BIG Widget & themes fan. Have installed plenty of widgets and have 23 themes installed of CM7 theme chooser. Still 117MB internal memory is free. Here, Link2SD would have kept all those themes and widgets in internal memory while restoring via titanium.
nihilista said:
....And i think its impossible to move some of them to "real" internal space selectively, only link2sd can do this, or am i wrong?
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@nihilista,
There is one option of saying "Advanced Mode" in S2E Settings. Never tried it myself. But, I suppose its may be for not moving apps, which should not be in external storage like Link2SD. But not Individually.
hey hi , i am on stock rom (2.3.6 ddkq8) does it support apps2sd....read that while u partition ur sd card..""if the rom supports apps2sd"".....(do these roms have to support such applications????) ......it will transfer the files to ext3......to clear internal memory (main problem in Galaxy ace).
2) after partition ...if i try to move apps to sd card from the fone's stock application manager...will it be transferd to the same EXT3?
3) diffrence btween link2sd and app2sd...do they perform the same task?
P.S.- i want to stay on this rom......please help me with this....as m a newbie...i dont have any clue as to how should i move apps.