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I hadn't used the desktop app before so when I heard it was out for Android it piqued my interest. I downloaded it and although it has a few things missing (lists and hashtag searching I think is missing) they're not important to me. Anyway the purpose for me posting here is to check if anyone else using Cyanogen's Mod v4.2.5 has issues with notifications not happening. This, for me, is the second app that doesn't run as intended using CM ROMs and I don't like that one bit. Before I mention it to Cyanogen I want to see if I'm the only one having issues.
I'm having a few problems, too. Sometimes the program will crash when opening/closing the keyboard, sometimes it will freeze when switching tabs, etc.
I don't think it's CM's issue. I'm having a lot of FCs with it on Amon_RA's ROM as well, think it's just not stable enough.
I mentioned it to them via Twitter and they said they'd look into it. For an initial release the interface is really good I think but notifications are a must. To make sure it wasn't the ROM in general I've tried three separate ROMs now and ran another Twitter program at the same time, same interval updates and the other program (I Tweet) got all updates. Stupid thing is when I was reading them I got Seesmic telling me there were updates now. I'm sure they'll fix it but they better do it fast or the ratings will drop it.
Can somebody recommend me some nice ROM with decent multitasking? I don't care much about speed but I do care about keeping apps running in the background. I can't remember which ROM was my first one when I bought G1 back in January, but I remember multitasking was pretty good. Then I switched to Cyanogen 5 and tried different versions as they were released but all of them had appalling multitasking. I have now installed Complete Eclair and it's not really any better.
Just to clarify what I want to achieve - I want to be able to say open a website, go back to the home screen, open market and be able to switch back to the website exactly as it was when I left it. And then switch back to market and see it exactly as I left it. At the moment it's just not happening, every time I switch to any background application it sort of reloads itself. If your ROM can do this please let me know. Another thing - navigation. As far as I remember I used to be able to press power button to conserve battery and still have voice guidance. Now navigation gets killed as soon as I press power button. Again, if your ROM can do this properly please let me know.
I do need Exchange support so it will have to be at least 2.0 rom I suppose. The only Donut ROMs with Exchange support I have found are Sense ones and these are out of the question because of no BT support.
thanks
Probably not gonna find what you're looking for. Eclair and Froyo ROMs are so RAM intensive that not much room is left for decent multitasking. I'd say to try and use a giant SWAP partition and a modest compcache with whatever your favorite Eclair ROM is. This is gonna be dog slow most of the rest of the time though.
Isnt there an ap for 1.6 that lets you exchange sync im not sure but if there is remix cdvsi < somthin like that 40 mem when not using anythin wich i think is good ?
Turned out the latest Donut Cyanogen has Work Email which is good enough for me. I miss a few Eclair specific things but nothing too serious, so I guess problem solved.
Hi guys!
I discovered last week that newer firmwares like JPK and JPM have a pinch-overview feature for the app drawer. I never noticed this until i read it mentioned in a thread somewhere about the new SGS froyo features. I decided to try it out on a freshly flashed phone and it looked great and seemed really useful to me.
If you're unsure of what I'm talking about, it's similar to how you can pinch the home screen to have an overview of all your current homescreens and from there you can add, delete, move their positions around, or quickly jump to one of them. The app drawer for touch wiz has this as well apparently but just for rearranging panes or quickly jumping to one of them.
However, as I started filling up my phone with apps and gathered about 5 or 6 panes worth of apps, whenever I'd try doing the pinch-overview thing it was extremely slow in scrolling up or down. Sometimes it starts out fine but for some reason chokes up in the middle and sometimes it's incredibly slow to the point it is literally crawling up or down instead of actually scrolling...it's extremely frustrating.
I am currently running the latest beta for Voodoo lagfix on JPM. I keep my ram usage in check using Watchdog and Autostarts so I don't have all too many background stuff going on that would cause the slow down. The phone is nice and snappy in every aspect aside from this.
I use Launcher Pro. TW is Samsung so it's crap.
I happen to like TouchWiz actually but I understand why a lot of people dislike it. :O Maybe I like the iPhone-esque layout. I never owned an iPhone though.
I have just 6 panes of applications but no lag in the pinch zoom or scrolling. Rooted JP6, no lagfix.
Pinch zooming the apps does result in laggy scrolling here too, not very annoying though, since i can still easily jump from first to last page that way.
Yes, trying to scroll the "pinch-viewed" app drawer is painful to watch, and I only have 5-6 pages of apps. This is on rooted JP6 with OCLF v2.
Yeap, confirmed that it's super laggy. Using (official) Froyo, rooted, no lag fix.
Yeah good thing it lags so much that a quick flick does take you all the way to your last few panes of apps without a hitch. The SGS just loses more of its "slickness" though because of the lag in this aspect. If it were smooth and fluid here then not only does it feel and look great, it has great show-off value as well
This is pretty much my only pet peeve at the moment with the SGS. GPS never locks for me but I don't use GPS all that much so I can live. Things still lag for a few seconds whenever apps are installing but it's nothing too excruciating.
I hope future builds optimize this aspect as well as fix the other issues of the SGS (GPS etc. etc.)
Problem went away!
Strange. I added a ton of apps resulting in about 9 pages worth of apps and for some reason the pinch-overview lag is pretty much gone!
I haven't done anything special. If you ask me, I thought my SGS would be lagging a lot more than usual with the addition of more apps. I've also been customizing my homescreens with all kinds of widgets I thought would be eating up more memory/cpu but surprisingly I hardly notice a change in performance! And I'm not complaining that the lag went away. It's great that it did! Now my SGS experience is almost perfect!
I'm still not using any real auto-task killers or dedicated memory boosters. Here's my setup:
SGS on JPM (2.2)
Voodoo lag fix 5 pre4
Autostarts (turns off certain receivers that make apps autostart) - paid, forgot the price
Watchdog (monitor and "kill" running apps) - paid, forgot the price
SmartBar (to turn off certain services) - free
Is this really the decision we have to make?
V2.1
Pro
Better battery life
More stable
Con
Camera picture shifted by a pixel resulting in a line down the side.
Slower
Stuck with old 2.1 applications
V2.2
Pro
Faster
Newest applications such as GMail are much more usable, there are also new applications for 2.2+ only
Camera pictures turn out correctly
Con
Camera application crashes unexpectedly
General instability of the phone and its applications
Terrible battery life (at least 50% less on a good day)
ps. if any of these can be resolved please let me know. If you have anything to add to the list, also let me know. I've been switching back and forth between the two trying to figure out which I like more, but I find either way I'm terribly annoyed by something.
I disagree with the cons of v2.2.1, the camera works perfect, no instability and the battery lasts 1 1 / 2 to 2 days
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I disagree with the cons of v2.2.1, the camera works perfect, no instability and the battery lasts 1 1 / 2 to 2 days
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+1, And i think that the battery drain deppends of the OC, and the care of the usser.
3 days with out changer with and extremly care and oc.
I see 2.1 is more stable and faster than 2.2
because and this is happened with me
apps installed in 2.1 are the same in 2.2
but 2.2 needs more time to open the desktop and the apps menu
and sometimes appear ( problem loading widget ) so i need to reload the widget
and for that reason I'm gonna stay on 2.1 because I'm tired with 2.2
notice\ If u have any solution for the problem mentioned above please
tell me
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I disagree with the cons of v2.2.1, the camera works perfect, no instability and the battery lasts 1 1 / 2 to 2 days
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1 1/2 to 2 days... hmm. I never make it 48 hours on 2.2.. 36 with minor usage. But 2.1 with the same usage I usually make 3 days at least.
Ifiuse said:
+1, And i think that the battery drain deppends of the OC, and the care of the usser.
3 days with out changer with and extremly care and oc.
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Fair enough, but I make 3 days normally on 2.1 with mine over-clocked to 1.1GHz. At least from what I remember. I have recently gone back to 2.1 and will report back if I'm thinking of 800 MHz and got confused.
On 2.2, with 700 Mhz I never lasted much more then 36 hours, so either way I feel 2.1 is doing much better.
What mod do you guys use? or just the un-modded beta kernel?
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I see 2.1 is more stable and faster than 2.2
because and this is happened with me
apps installed in 2.1 are the same in 2.2
but 2.2 needs more time to open the desktop and the apps menu
and sometimes appear ( problem loading widget ) so i need to reload the widget
and for that reason I'm gonna stay on 2.1 because I'm tired with 2.2
notice\ If u have any solution for the problem mentioned above please
tell me
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Maybe I'm missing something but the GMail app, for one, doesn't seem to be updated on 2.1? I can't even copy/paste, I don't have the new header, etc. Can anyone correct me on this if I'm wrong?
2.1 is definately more stable.. however faster I'd say I agree with you if you install JIT beta and overclock it (which is fine, considering it still runs longer for meoverclocked than the 2.2 kernel) but without those mods its a lot more laggy for the UI.
EDIT: Apologies, I just noticed the multi-quote button. Next time I promise not to spam post.
2.1 cons: can't upload directly from website. eg, imageshack. Don't have flash support on website. Apps2sd need tedious step to install.
2.2 cons: stock camera doesn't support widescreen. Wifi instability.
Lets see how official 2.2 perform.
No Milestone camera application supports widescreen.
The stock Motorola Camera has only a crop mode that strips the top and bottom parts of the picture (lowering its resolution) that is called "widescreen"...
Also, there's no 2.2 for Milestone yet, there is only an early 2.2 beta firmware available (and there are also 2.2 ROMs that depend on components - e.g. kernel, gsm/umts stuff etc. - extracted from the early beta, which makes them beta too).
So no fair comparison is possible at this moment.
I have to add that the motorola usb networking driver is rock solid on 2.2 unlike the one from 2.1 that hangs under heavy network traffic.
This is impacts the reliability of USB tethering.
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No Milestone camera application supports widescreen.
The stock Motorola Camera has only a crop mode that strips the top and bottom parts of the picture (lowering its resolution) that is called "widescreen"...
Also, there's no 2.2 for Milestone yet, there is only an early 2.2 beta firmware available (and there are also 2.2 ROMs that depend on components - e.g. kernel, gsm/umts stuff etc. - extracted from the early beta, which makes them beta too).
So no fair comparison is possible at this moment.
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It may be crop, but it still look nice.
Yeah, still waiting for the release of Q4 for EU..
Besides the obvious access to particular Honeycomb apps, what other benefits does Honeycomb offer on our G-Tabs?
I ask because it seems like some people prefer Honeycombs GUI but I also noticed that one is able to theme their tablets to look like Honeycomb while staying on a non-Honeycomb based ROM.
What tipped it for me to go ahead and install the Bottle of Smoke alpha:
- improved widgets, including scrollable Gmail previewer
- Gmail app is fantastic
- access to 3.0-only tablet-optimized apps (like Touchdown for my Exchange email)
- laying out the homescreens is easier since you can preview the widgets
Just a couple of things I've discovered (I just applied this ROM yesterday...):
- improved Market interface
- HC themes approach but do not fully capture the "holographic" feel of HC
-the notification system is different enough that I'm not sure whether I like it better or not.
I'm not mentioning the particular quirks of the BoS alpha - there are threads here and elsewhere that chronicle those. They should definitely be part of your decision, as it takes a good measure of patience to deal with.
I went to the Century Eyes Rom by roebeet, and I'm loving it. It gives me the tablet feel with no bugs. I do miss the market and Youtube apps from honeycomb though.
(Century Eyes = Notion Ink Adam's EdenUI)
Although being just an alpha and lacking flash support, I don't see myself moving away from BOS anytime soon. Granted quite few areas still have bugs to be worked out, visual asthetics alone have me hooked on roebeets rom. Not to mention it surprisingly runs very well vs. coming from vegan rc1. I have live wallpaper going, of course oc-ed, and I can still play game any for the most part with little to no lag. The menu/context menu layout for adding/changing wallpaper, active/recent apps menu, default keyboard, and default browser ease of use are my main reasons for sticking with it. If you want a rom with minute issues, this one is obviosly not for you. But if you can sacrifice a random reboot every other day and don't watch youtube all the time like me, BOS is a keeper and will only get better.
Edit: I should also note that my gtab is mostly for recreational use. A friend of a friend bought it bout a month ago now, tried doing something without proper knowledge, soft-bricked it, gave it to my friend who in turn gave it to me while the original owner bought an Ipad a week later. So I dont find it appropriate to use the term 'daily driver' since I see it as a very fun toy currently so my opinion on ROMs should include this.
In all honesty, I would have been mad if I hadn't found such a good modding community for this device. The stock is terrible.
So i have the BoS alpha installed , it runs very smooth - the only real FC come from open-gl not being available yet, well that and the apps that arent compatible with the nvidia kernel in general... i hope this helps a bit, if not please let me know exactly what apps your planning on using, and ill test them and post a video on youtube for you to see how well they run. my channel on youtube is ( youtube.com/itsnothowyoudie ) the latest video shows the homescreen and a couple apps including the scrolling gmail, which btw is great.
ps. one thing that has annoyed me, not being able to resize the widgets (;
I am also running Century Eyes. It offers the tablet feel, with improved resolution over all other Froyo ROMs. The resolution and the scrollable widgets are the best of Honeycomb, but I need Hardware Acceleration for flash. I use the streaming TV and movie apps, and it is required that you have flash enabled.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb-C27sIuX0&feature=player_embedded#t=0s
I am running the Evervol GB ROM with the Honeycomb 3D-SBicons theme and it looks so much like HC that you wouldn't believe it. Especially when using Launcher Pro with scrollable widgets. Amazing! Plus, almost everything works (flash, camera, both sd cards, usb to pc, etc.).
I also like honeycombs browser which syncs my bookmarks with the chrome browser. Been waiting for android to do this, I have tons of bookmarks on my computer so this helps a lot. The new 4.1 version of bottle of smoke is very smooth and works very well for me.
I think I'll wait until one of the Honeycomb ROMs hits final release. I need it to be able to do everything I can currently do in froyo before switching (open GL, flash, video playback, etc...)
Good ROM
Sidriel said:
I went to the Century Eyes Rom by roebeet, and I'm loving it. It gives me the tablet feel with no bugs. I do miss the market and Youtube apps from honeycomb though.
(Century Eyes = Notion Ink Adam's EdenUI)
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Refering to battery, the best rom i think, i dont like the hidding status bar and i couldnt use the long search whit other programs, I like this rom so much i hope it could be fixed!!
EL TEJANO said:
Besides the obvious access to particular Honeycomb apps, what other benefits does Honeycomb offer on our G-Tabs?
I ask because it seems like some people prefer Honeycombs GUI but I also noticed that one is able to theme their tablets to look like Honeycomb while staying on a non-Honeycomb based ROM.
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To answer the OPs post: Froyo gave genuine performance improvements and features i.e. batterly life, reduced sluggishness, Flash (which had limited support on earlier Android IIRC), but AFAIK Honeycomb gives mostly UI improvements -scrollable widgets, etc. However, some of those 'UI improvements' are also significant improvements in how the tablet is used as well as how it looks (i.e. UI = user INTERFACE and not just how the home screen looks).
See here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
Honeycomb on gTab has some tradeoffs, but if you want to keep all the Froyo functionality you can try different launchers on any ROM, although I'm sure Froyo launchers have limitations when compared to the Honeycomb launchers. I am currently using VTL launcher on Vegan 5.1.1 (Froyo), I would not call it a 'Honeycomb Replacement' but the ROM (Vegan 5.1.1) is way better than the stock ROM and the launcher (VTL) is way better than the stock launcher, and everything that I need still works, including camera, keyboard, video, and PvZ.
For ideas on setting up your launcher/home screen see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=862030
Recommend Honeycomb FlashBack or GtabComb,
You basically won't have camera functionality and some Flash won't work in browser. Most Games will work, the cool 3d ones at least.
Just give it a try, its as easy double clicking the nvflash exe
I switched back from GTABcomb to cm7 because there is one particular app didnt support. The back support is not that good. On the good side, you have everything mention here by other members but flash is only playable through opera browser and no HW acc. The sound is louder too on HC and screen more responsive.
I'm running FB 5.5. Visually, it is more satisfying than GB or Froyo.
Gmail widget and app handles email better.
Stock Calendar app and calender widget is better as well.
YouTube and Market HC is visually better as well.
Flash works in browser opera and stock.
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I'm running FB 5.5. Visually, it is more satisfying than GB or Froyo.
Gmail widget and app handles email better.
Stock Calendar app and calender widget is better as well.
YouTube and Market HC is visually better as well.
Flash works in browser opera and stock.
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Not to mention the Netflix 1.3 apk works perfectly now, all youtube vids play in full screen, No sleep of death, etc. TV.com acts weird and runs small like it's on a phone but I may play around with different versions. At this point the only thing I'm really missing is the camera. To be honest I think I only want it because I can't have it. I'd probably go 6 months without using it if it worked. I did notice that FB 5.5 runs a bit slower than GTABComb 3.2. I got 3345 quad score on GTABComb with the built in OC script where I get about 2450 with SetCPU at 1400mhz on FB 5.5. Overall I feel like both of these HC roms have evolved to a point where the leary should jump in and give them a shot. You won't be missing much and what you gain is seeing your tablet run visually the way it was meant to.
Currently running GTabComb 3.2 and it's pretty good. Stable, quick. Been considering Illuminate as well. I will say HC is such a slicker interface over Froyo or GB. I definitely would like to stick with HC now that I've played with it.