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[Think Tank] Improve 3D Performance

Any ideas on how to improve 3D performance on the G1? I am talking about changing things in the kernel/firmware to make 3D games run a little smoother. My favorite game on android is raging thunder 2, and it runs fine for the most part until more then one car gets on the screen. At that point it starts to lag alot. I know it was designed for faster hardware but with some mods we can make it better.
My setup:
CM based 2.6.34 kernel with BFS
Cyanogen 5.0.8 test4
No sound
All tasks killed before the game starts.
Overclocked at 691 min/max (Universal overclock, and always plugged in)
Any ideas?

One, stop killing tasks.
I'm curious if there's a way to assign more RAM to 3d. Hence a... reverse RAM hack?

r3s-rt said:
One, stop killing tasks.
I'm curious if there's a way to assign more RAM to 3d. Hence a... reverse RAM hack?
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I use the running services section under settings to kill tasks. I haven't used a separate app taskiller since my donut days. Now the reverse RAM hack seems like a good idea, but wouldn't general phone performance suffer because of that?

Ah. Smart man on the killing tasks then.
Hmm... Probably? I usually go with about 18 free... never under 10... But that's ME. Maybe giving it 5mb more? That's a ~50% increase of the original 10.7MB reserved for it. The question here is how? I'm sure it can't be too hard.

the funny thing is dude, you dont mean to boost ur GPU as everything is integrated. when it comes to lag u'd usually resort to OCing the processor. i normally stick to RT1. RT2's requirements are 700Mhz and I dont know if i wanna put ma poor G1 through that - i have a hard enough time trying to get speedforge to work propperly

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the funny thing is dude, you dont mean to boost ur GPU as everything is integrated. when it comes to lag u'd usually resort to OCing the processor. i normally stick to RT1. RT2's requirements are 700Mhz and I dont know if i wanna put ma poor G1 through that - i have a hard enough time trying to get speedforge to work propperly
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How could I have forgotten about overclock?!?! I'm one of the lucky ones my phone will boot at up to 710 Mhz for a good 30 seconds and I'm perfectly stable at around 652 Mhz. RT1 runs a lot smoother but it has a lot worse graphics. RT2 actually runs fairly well most of the time with the sound off when clocked at 528 so I dunno.

Yeah so I played with overclock some and I'm getting amazing results. When playing 3D games I've got my cpu clocked at 710 max/min and I am getting absolutely no slowdowns. My neocore benchmark is at 30.2 fps now, way higher then stock cyanogen's 22.5 ish scores. I haven't played with overclock since the universal overclock first came out and now my phone seems to be a lot more stable at higher frequencies then it was before. It's gonna kill my battery, but I'll just play with the phone plugged in lol. Problem is solved, but I'm still open to any 3D improving suggestions.
EDIT:I still get a few random reboots, specially if the phone has been idle, but performance is amazing.
EDIT2: I'm gonna have to eat my words....710max/min might have been too aggressive. Sometimes it reboots completely, sometimes it just exits out of the game. Until I posted on here I was having amazing results but a slower clock is more reasonable...I'll go with 691 max/min=p

psx4droid

just heard about it and am rather excited. has anyone tested it on the g1? is it even playable?

yes i installed psx4droid on Cm6 on G1 i tested crash bandicoot and it works but exstremly slow, sound is also very poor
but its G1 so what do you expect.
thoughts awesome havent tested any other games yet im thinking if i disable comp cache and enable swapper on my swap partition then it may be faster...??

oh yh i have the same phone with cy6 and amon ra with death spl

in step by step detail can someone please explain the process of getting the rom to work. i tried a file from doperoms and when i putin the correct bios and clicked on the twisted metal zip it open another folder and said there was nothing in the folder. can you please guide me in this. i been so fustrated tryna figure this outfor a while now lol any help is appreciated

Don't download off dope roms unless you know how to convert their psx roms to .ISO or .BIN. I use emu paradise forums as long as the roms are in those two formats you should be fine the only problem is even with swapper or linux swap you cant get enough memory for the games. They seem to run incredably slow and it makes it unplayable unless someone can get the linux swap only to work for psx4droid so it only gives that program the memory it needs then maybe it'll play like the moto droid does with psx4droid. Anyway good luck with getting it run well.
If any progress in getting this to run smooth on G1 PM me

Sad to say it but psx4droid is just a novelty on the G1. Ive tried tekken on down to a 2d game like Suikoden. It makes no difference wat you do. Even overclocked to 700 sumtin mhz with set cpu you only can get around 5 fps.

I got it running a lil faster than 5fps I'm not sure but I keep it at default. And also I disable the sound it gives it a boost. But I will do a video on youtube tonight or tomorrow. Jus search my username androidappman and you will see the video it won't be hard to find.
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^^^ thanks i would love too see it running a couple of games to get the idea b4 i buy

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^^^ thanks i would love too see it running a couple of games to get the idea b4 i buy
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ok no prooblem im up and have one more ciggerette for the night lol so ill post it but im taking back what i said on it moving faster than about 5fps but again it could have been the game cause i had chosen silent hill but i heard ace combat was pretty smooth running as well as crash bandicoot but my issue is i wanna start a dropbox like sysytem to load all the converted games for others to have easy access to. but im a do the video about basically how to convert the game into the proper file type and do so in detail. so look out for me in the morning. p.s anyone get wit me on a site like dropbox so i can sign up and start uploading away with you all.

I also have CM6, and I tried this emulator out. Extremely slow, but seems to work. Needs a lot of optimizations, as I'm sure that the G1 can certainly emulate PSX full speed. How I know this? Cause I could on my Kaiser, with FPSCE. I was able to play Megaman 8 with sound with minimal slow down. Then again, I had to use Windows Mobile for FPSCE.
Considering the difference between the G1 and Kaiser CPU's are 128 Mhz, I really doubt it couldn't be done on the G1. Would like to also mention, on the Kaiser the 3D acceleration wasn't working either. So FPSCE had no help from the GPU.
My guess is that PSX4DROID uses the FPU that you'll find in many modern Android phones, but older phones like the G1 don't have one. They could probably optimize it to run at full speed on phones like the G1, but they would rather recommend getting a newer phone. Even though most PSX emulators for the PC requires a minimum of a 200 MHz chip, and our phones have a 528 Mhz chip.
Really wish more emulator developers would develop on the Android. As it is, it seems like Android only has one person working on emulators for the Android.

Help my poor computer..

I know there are better forums to ask this on but I love XDA and figured you guys might know a thing or two about computers..
I bought my HP Pavilion dv6 2190 2 years ago and it has been great to me.. only complaint is that the 6 cell battery give me enough time to un plug and find a new outlet..
Anyways after 2 years, it needed some work.. It has a 1.8Ghz i7, Nvidia GT230m 1GB GPU, and I doubled my RAM from 4GB to 8GB and then took the 500Gb HDD out and installed a clean install of windows 7 professional on a 128GB SSD and then put the 500GB HDD in a caddy and installed it in my DVD bay as media storage, plus I never used my DVD drive..
Now I split the 128GB SSD in two partitions for a Ubuntu and W7 dual boot and Ubuntu flies, no issues with videos, unlimited browsers, all kinds of applications open at once, But W7 just plain sucks.. Browsers when watching a Video, the video will become choppy and the entiresystem will come to a hault.. Also even before the SSD and RAM, Editing in Premiere Pro wasnt this choppy. Sometimes it flies like it should, then other times it gets so bogged down with just one Browser open, or when editing Video with no other programs running and less then 60 total processes running Video playback at 1/4 quality is so hoppy its un useable.
I understand that my computer is 2 years old but with this much new equipment and a clean install I would think it would be happy as a champ in both Ubuntu and W7.
I keep my computer clean and dont have tons of programs bogging it down.. I just want to know what you guys think and what info do you need to help me?
I tried to see if I have and back ground programs or processes that are holdong things back but I cant see anything..
Any ideas?
Last.. Mods feel free to move topic..
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What speed is the 500gb HD? And 1.7 GHz is not that much for video editing. Also make sure you don't have any unnecessary processes running. Go to task manager, second tab, and click the tab that I forgot what it says and I can't check now cuz I'm on a mac. It's the last one.

jaszek said:
What speed is the 500gb HD? And 1.7 GHz is not that much for video editing. Also make sure you don't have any unnecessary processes running. Go to task manager, second tab, and click the tab that I forgot what it says and I can't check now cuz I'm on a mac. It's the last one.
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The HDD is a 7200rpm and is data only. The os and few programs I have are on the SSD. And 1.8 ghz is not blistering fast but has worked just fine before. Plus premiere pro uses the gpu for playback.. And this happens with chrome too. It's not just editing. And I am down to 50-55 processes and they are all system except for the editing program.
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Spend 500 bucks and get a laptop 4 times faster, it's the most logical solution.
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Scan with an antivirus. There might be something there. Also if you have the time, format again, might help.

Sounds like a Hardware Acceleration issue to me. That's a weak GPU and everything you describe as causing problems is when the GPU is being utilised. Try turning off Hardware Acceleration in your Browser/Video Player (DXVA), and see if they run better without it.
Windows may also feel sluggish with Aero turned on as that also uses Hardware Acceleration.

DirkGently said:
Sounds like a Hardware Acceleration issue to me. That's a weak GPU and everything you describe as causing problems is when the GPU is being utilised. Try turning off Hardware Acceleration in your Browser/Video Player (DXVA), and see if they run better without it.
Windows may also feel sluggish with Aero turned on as that also uses Hardware Acceleration.
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+1 turn off Aero.

DirkGently said:
Sounds like a Hardware Acceleration issue to me. That's a weak GPU and everything you describe as causing problems is when the GPU is being utilised. Try turning off Hardware Acceleration in your Browser/Video Player (DXVA), and see if they run better without it.
Windows may also feel sluggish with Aero turned on as that also uses Hardware Acceleration.
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I will turn Aero off and see if that helps.. I remember AVG Tune up had me turn off Aero before I did all these upgrades, I will try that. and I know its a week GPU but it ran the murcery playback engine in Premiere Pro for over a year just fine with 1080 h.264 video with color correcting and multiple layers just fine at 1/2 quality realtime playback and now I can't watch 1/4 quality with out the computer coming to a stand still.. could my GPU have gone bad?
jaszek said:
Scan with an antivirus. There might be something there. Also if you have the time, format again, might help.
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multiple AVG full computer scans never come up with anything more then just empty browser cache and cookies and that small stuff.. I may format both the 500GB HDD and the 128SSD.. I know the HDD could use Defraging and probably should be just wipped.. But still the OS's and Programs are on the SSD.. And Ubuntu runs like a champ so I find it hard to think its so much hardware issue.
itsbeertimenow said:
Spend 500 bucks and get a laptop 4 times faster, it's the most logical solution.
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Its obvious your deep into your beer time.. I just put $200 into this computer to bring it up to speed, I am not buying a new computer.. I only use The hp for video and photo work, 95% of my time is on my Transformer booted into Ubuntu.
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swan3609 said:
Its obvious your deep into your beer time.. I just put $200 into this computer to bring it up to speed, I am not buying a new computer.. I only use The hp for video and photo work, 95% of my time is on my Transformer booted into Ubuntu.
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Why would you spend $200 on something that's not going to be worth half that when you're done.
Shoot your computer it's lame.

itsbeertimenow said:
Why would you spend $200 on something that's not going to be worth half that when you're done.
Shoot your computer it's lame.
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How does that make any sense?
Anyhow, to the OP, couple of things:
1. If your copy of Windows isn't legit, get it legit. I remember I used to have problems on my laptop because I hadn't activated my Windows yet. Once I did, everything was gone.
2. What's your WEI for the graphic card? Maybe do a stress test and see how well it performs.

Well worth checking out whether the GPU has indeed gone bad. Run some tests and monitor temps too as it may be throttling. Don't forget that the age of that Laptop puts in within the period of time of the Nvidia 'Bumpgate' troubles, where their mobile GPU's were dying left and right because of a manufacturing defect.
http://semiaccurate.com/2010/07/11/why-nvidias-chips-are-defective/

kareeem said:
How does that make any sense?
Anyhow, to the OP, couple of things:
1. If your copy of Windows isn't legit, get it legit. I remember I used to have problems on my laptop because I hadn't activated my Windows yet. Once I did, everything was gone.
2. What's your WEI for the graphic card? Maybe do a stress test and see how well it performs.
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Windows is legitimate. I am a student and got w7 professional as a download with a valid product key.
I am not sure about my WEI. I will check it when I get back home. I believe that it was very high 5+ if I remember rightly. I will try testing the card this afternoon and see what is up.
I would be a sad dude if my gpu was bad. I am well out of my warranty
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Well worth checking out whether the GPU has indeed gone bad. Run some tests and monitor temps too as it may be throttling. Don't forget that the age of that Laptop puts in within the period of time of the Nvidia 'Bumpgate' troubles, where their mobile GPU's were dying left and right because of a manufacturing defect.
http://semiaccurate.com/2010/07/11/why-nvidias-chips-are-defective/
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That sucks. I will check it out. What is the best stress testing application? I have a bad feeling about mine..
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Run rthdribl against it for a while:
http://downloadcenter24.com/video-and-dvd/rthdribl.html
it's a pretty little graphics demo that won't over-stress anything, but can give you some idea if your're GPU is unstable. Run GPU-Z at the same time to monitor temps and to see if the GPU is running at it's proper speed:
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
I would use memtest, or the Windows 7 memory test, to check that your RAM is alright too.
http://www.memtest.org/
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/715-memory-diagnostics-tool.html

DirkGently said:
Run rthdribl against it for a while:
http://downloadcenter24.com/video-and-dvd/rthdribl.html
it's a pretty little graphics demo that won't over-stress anything, but can give you some idea if your're GPU is unstable. Run GPU-Z at the same time to monitor temps and to see if the GPU is running at it's proper speed:
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
I would use memtest, or the Windows 7 memory test, to check that your RAM is alright too.
http://www.memtest.org/
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/715-memory-diagnostics-tool.html
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thank you. My ram is fine. I just swapped for 8gb less than a month ago and it is just fine. I will run some tests on my gpu this afternoon. Thanks again.
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DirkGently said:
Run rthdribl against it for a while:
http://downloadcenter24.com/video-and-dvd/rthdribl.html
it's a pretty little graphics demo that won't over-stress anything, but can give you some idea if your're GPU is unstable. Run GPU-Z at the same time to monitor temps and to see if the GPU is running at it's proper speed:
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
I would use memtest, or the Windows 7 memory test, to check that your RAM is alright too.
http://www.memtest.org/
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/715-memory-diagnostics-tool.html
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So I ran that applet and it ran just fine gpu around 75-80C and gpu load around 15-20% but premiere and online videos are killer. Not smooth at all.
So as soon as I load up premiere, the gpu maxes out the clock speeds which I assume is OK because it's getting used? It never shows the gpu load to go up though.
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If it's not crashy under load i think we can rule out a GPU failure. What's the CPU utilization while you're running Premier and Videos? Take a look in Task manager to see what it's doing.
It could just be something simple like a dodgy plug-in, or a driver that needs to be re-installed. If you haven't already to could try re-installing/updating the usual candidates. Graphics drivers/Flash/Siverlight/Browser/Sound.

DirkGently said:
If it's not crashy under load i think we can rule out a GPU failure. What's the CPU utilization while you're running Premier and Videos? Take a look in Task manager to see what it's doing.
It could just be something simple like a dodgy plug-in, or a driver that needs to be re-installed. If you haven't already to could try re-installing/updating the usual candidates. Graphics drivers/Flash/Siverlight/Browser/Sound.
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Graphics driver is the most current Nvidia Driver, Flash is current, It happens on all browsers so I want to rule out Chrome, and what about sound could it be? I just figured that the sound uses the built in sounds card on my motherboard.. I assumed my windows updates took care of that..

Device Manager will tell you if there's any problems. Press Win Key+Pause/Break, Device Manager and look for any exclamation marks in yellow triangles.
I'd still be interested to see what the CPU is doing when the issues crop up.
Also, test your drive with HDTune:
http://www.hdtune.com/
It will help diagnose any drive errors.

DirkGently said:
Device Manager will tell you if there's any problems. Press Win Key+Pause/Break, Device Manager and look for any exclamation marks in yellow triangles.
I'd still be interested to see what the CPU is doing when the issues crop up.
Also, test your drive with HDTune:
http://www.hdtune.com/
It will help diagnose any drive errors.
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I will check but I am starting to rule out hardware, only because my ubuntu boot is very very fast. I have never had chrome or firefox slow down on me. So I am thinking about doing a clean wipe of my ssd and my hdd and see if that fixes it.
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swan3609 said:
I will check but I am starting to rule out hardware, only because my ubuntu boot is very very fast. I have never had chrome or firefox slow down on me. So I am thinking about doing a clean wipe of my ssd and my hdd and see if that fixes it.
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Everyone works their way around to a clean install eventually!
I used to tell people to start with doing that, as it ends up being the faster option after all the messing about, but then people always want to try every other possible option first. I've learned that it's best to let them come to that conclusion all on their own!
Good luck. Let us know if everything is ok afterwards.

[Q] Fully Stock 4.2.2 HTC One gameplay lag!

Hi guys, I'm new to the forums. Sorry if this post is in the wrong section!
I just picked up my HTC One, and I love it. I have noticed though, that gaming seems really off. I realize that the throttle kicks in at 40c but my device still has extremely subpar gameply lag when the device is cool. With no programs running in the background, games like Jetpack Joyride have a frame "jump" ever 3 seconds or so, making it unplayable. Gravity Guy runs at about 10 frames per second, and Final Fantasy III has the same frame "jump" as Jetpack Joyride. Other games I've tried run very choppy / jumpy as well. Again, I am fully stock, and I am willing to root if I can't find a solution elsewhere. Again, no other programs are running. I have turned auto-sync off. I'm on Verizon, so the power-saver mode isn't even there, so it's not turned on. Any suggestions at all will be HIGHLY appreciated! I love this phone...it is wonderful in everyway, but gaming should be buttery smooth.
The only thing I can think of is that a lot of games are optimized to run on one core...
Can rooting fix this problem? Please let me know if you either have the same issue I have, or if you have a possible solution. This is my second HTC One, as the first one had dust under the screen. Both devices had the same issue with gaming.
Thank you so much in advance!
CL

Maybe you should try a custom kernel and try to tweak the cpu governor and gpu governor a bit. For gaming you shouldn't need to overclock the htc one but to force to jump at higher frequencies more often.Go into cpu governor and change up threshold to 65 or lower and maybe you should try the gpu simple governor as well to see if there is any difference. I recommend using a tweak app like trickster mod for this.

Hiro Nakamura said:
Maybe you should try a custom kernel and try to tweak the cpu governor and gpu governor a bit. For gaming you shouldn't need to overclock the htc one but to force to jump at higher frequencies more often.Go into cpu governor and change up threshold to 65 or lower and maybe you should try the gpu simple governor as well to see if there is any difference. I recommend using a tweak app like trickster mod for this.
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I'm a complete noob when it comes to kernels. I am tempted to return the phone and trade it in for a GS4. I shouldn't have to go to this trouble to fix this horrible lag on such a high-end phone. Any ideas? Can someone give me a link to a detailed / easy to follow process on rooting / changing throttle threshold.

I'm not new to flashing etc but i'd advise not to do it with this phone as it avoids your warranty, i'm also about to swap my phone for the 4th time.
Mine lags too on games like asphalt 8, GTA etc.

phillipm said:
I'm not new to flashing etc but i'd advise not to do it with this phone as it avoids your warranty, i'm also about to swap my phone for the 4th time.
Mine lags too on games like asphalt 8, GTA etc.
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I'm not gonna swap it in unless i absolutely have to. Why are you swapping for the fourth time by the way?

When taking photos at night the blacks are purple/red.
I've had quality issues with every one i've had, one of them came out the box with the camera lens scratched.
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I'm not gonna swap it in unless i absolutely have to. Why are you swapping for the fourth time by the way?
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When taking photos at night the blacks are purple/red.
I've had quality issues with every one i've had, one of them came out the box with the camera lens scratched.
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Sorry to hear that. Have you had game lag? I am just wondering if some games are not optimized for the resolution of the HTC One at 1080p...

chaoticlogic said:
Sorry to hear that. Have you had game lag? I am just wondering if some games are not optimized for the resolution of the HTC One at 1080p...
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could be that they are not optimized, some of the games i had on the lowest settings and felt lag. i won't be overclocking this (gets too hot as it is)
you can have a look at this (under the tips for non rooted users)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2287094

[Q] AT&T Note 3 Iffy Framerates/Benchmarks?

Hi all so let me start by saying ive always enjoyed this site and its users and help. unfortunately what brings me here is that Im having issues with some fluidity of this device based on what ive seen from other videos regarding games and their benchmarks. Ok so heres a few examples of titles im speaking of. Dead Trigger 1&2, Modern Combat 4, all of the Grand Theft Auto games. Even DraStic DS Emulator which ive seen running perfectly on a user posted Note 3. My wifes iPhone 5c runs these games literally perfect, my Note 3 struggles here and there. So that led me to running almost every benchmark i could think of and to my concern again all of my scores are coming up a hair shorter than other users. And gameplay isnt just quite as smooth as other user videos. I almost have no other issues with the device and im constantly taking care of its memory and cache. Even factory rest a few times. Its nothing more than normal Android hiccup that ive been used to. But with Project Butter and these other videos I just need to know if theres an issue with my device or did I get screwed buying the Note 3. Has anyone else noticed this? Either via gaming or web scrolling or the notorious Youtube Streaming smoothness issue. Please any help is greatly appreciated. Ive even taken the liberty of posting every screen cap of benchmarks that i took. You dont have to look at all the photos but im thorough so i gave you all of them.

I don't know what is wrong with your device but something doesn't seem right. You Antutu seems way low compared to mine and even the stock phone. Do you have any power saving apps running or something?
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duhbanjopicker said:
I don't know what is wrong with your device but something doesn't seem right. You Antutu seems way low compared to mine and even the stock phone. Do you have any power saving apps running or something?
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See thats what I dont understand its a factory reset. Heres my other concern with your screenie, yours is even higher than alot of scores Ive seen. So I cant quite get a figure on what the norm is for this device. Especially since there are so many versions with two different chipsets too boot. What I dont get is if these scores are the norm then why. Since as much as I hate iOS i have to give it credit where its due: ITS ABSOLUTELY SMOOTHER THAN A DEVICE WITH MORE PHYSICAL RAW POWER? My gripes arent even major the hiccups are only every now and then but for the most part I have a hard time seeing any other YouTube Note 3's that display the behavior. And its not even that its bad or doesnt work, i just got concerned with the hiccups.

I'm running a custom ROM. But yours is even lower than the stock mark?? Weird
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Should really try and root and install safe strap and run a custom rom see if it help. Power saving mode on maybe?

duhbanjopicker said:
I'm running a custom ROM. But yours is even lower than the stock mark?? Weird
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I thought about trying the same idea of flashing it and Ive done many other devices. Buts thats not why I bought the device, I dont wanna brick it or just flat out tamper with it, and it seems hit or miss from person to person or at least what Ive seen. Reviews say it hiccups but videos Ive watched on youtube dont really do it or i cant quite notice it over the occasoinal stutter that youtube itself presents lol. Any ideas? Even the Exynos Bench's are alost identical to our SnapDragons save for one or two tests. i dont get it im confused lol.

Overgloc said:
Should really try and root and install safe strap and run a custom rom see if it help. Power saving mode on maybe?
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No power save. And theres no AT&T Stock Binary yet. Im not messing with that OneClick lol. Any other ideas?

Id be just as satisfied if everyone can say their device runs all these games with out one single hiccup. Ever. Lol. I know Android games arent as optimized as ios but Im just trying to understand why or how to fix it or if some poeple have also experinced it. And like i said youtube stutters on its own on my laptop and Note 3 so its been hard to use that as a reference.Ive been able to use it to compare my ps3 games framerates but the quality of vidoes out there are crap since most are being recorded unprofeesionally. The other half is just as a i said hard to tell from youtube.

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*bump* I hate doing it, just looking for more input. Thanks.

I know you said you dont have "power save" on...but this sounds stuiped but I had this problem before...Even though your button says power save is off Have you clicked to the left of the button and bring this menu up and make sure its not on Auto on is enabled?

yeh auto save was enabled on mine.cool I took it off.Didn't even know that menu existed.lol

Ok so this was after turning every option I could think of. My question still remains that I don't understand why others are still getting higher results. Also these numbers have had no effect on gaming it still hiccups in most hardware intensive applications just slightly more than an iPhone 5c I just don't get it.

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have you ran the test after a reboot. i noticed on mine it was about 33500 but then when i redid the test after a reboot it did 36000

billaboy25 said:
have you ran the test after a reboot. i noticed on mine it was about 33500 but then when i redid the test after a reboot it did 36000
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Well I've been keeping it eye on it more and i've gotten as high as 33,000 or whatever it was in that screenie but it's not consistent it'll drop back down in the 27'000 area. Plus like I said my main concern is I can't get this phone to play games as well as my wife's iPhone does. I mean this is a quad core right. Last I checked no iPhone should beat this on pen and paper right? And it's not unplayable and most wouldn't care but I just wanted to know if this hiccup here and there is acceptable as normal?

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I'm getting around 34k too on benchmark,but I'm playing some games and it runs nice hmm

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I'm getting around 34k too on benchmark,but I'm playing some games and it runs nice hmm
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I contacted AT&T and they're sending me a replacement. Well see what happens then. But you guys never see a hiccup in your gaming. Never the slightest framerate dip? And i should clarify that when im comparing it to the iPhone the framerates there stay consistent. My device plays great but here and there it hiccups. That's actually what I'm really referring to. And if so how is that possible comparing it to s device of lesser power? I mean I don't make this stuff up I keep noticing that almost every game I play runs just that much better on my wife's iPhone 5c than a Note 3...