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i have set the back light to turn off after one minute in external power.
usb sync cable connected to pc and back light will go dimmer in one minute but not complete off.
anyone has this problem?
this seems to be the new behavior of the TyTN II vs. the old TyTN: The back light never goes completely off. You have to push the power button to put the unit in standby. When I listen to music, for instance, I want the backlight to go off to save power: I must push the power button to turn off the backlight. The music still plays, which is nice...
Anyway I'm not sure what to do about it when it's connected to a computer to sync, since pushing the power button would likely interrupt the sync. It doesn't bother me that the backlight doesn't go off.
Hi
I'd go as far to say this is the new behaviour of Windows Mobile 6. The Toshiba G900 was exactly the same. It is possible to get a small app to turn the backlight off completely however when it's connected to your computer via USB it isn't drawing power from the battery but from the computer so it doesn't matter, and it's just show you it is still on.
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Phil
8525 running Black Satin WM6 doesn't do this, I don't think it's WM6
rite i dont mind the power consumption, but i cant go to sleep with the light on next to me, i like it off completely to save screen life too.
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8525 running Black Satin WM6 doesn't do this, I don't think it's WM6
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With all due respect that is a cooked ROM and will not need to follow WM6 best practice or MS guidelines.
I think this happens with the Kaiser (like it does with the G900) because the LCD isn't transreflective. With a transreflective device, even in normal room light you can usually see what is on the TFT display, so the device can time out the backlight completely turning it off, and you still know it is powered on but just the backlight has gone off. With a non transreflective screen like the Kaiser, if the backlight did go off completely while the device is still on, you can not see anything on the TFT screen, so it looks completely off, but it isn't. So I think the dimmed backlight is so you know it is still on by being able to see something on the display.
You can see this happening on battery power. If the backlight is timed to go off before the device powers down, it doesn't go off completely but dims, then shuts off completely when the device goes into standby.
but i cant go to sleep with the light on next to me, i like it off completely to save screen life too.
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You have a few options:
1) Power off the device.
2) Press the standby button.
3) Turn it upside down or cover it.
4) Download this application that will let you turn off the backlight completely. http://ppcsoft.narod.ru/english/
i like it off completely to save screen life too.
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This will be making little different to your screen life. The backlight is made up of white LEDs, these will have a lifetime of around 50,000 to 100,000 hours (more when used at a dimmed setting) so will easily outlast the device even if running non-stop from the day you buy it.
Best Regards
Phil
ic, as long as its ok for the screen life i am cool with it. thanks for the input.
PhilipL said:
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4) Download this application that will let you turn off the backlight completely. http://ppcsoft.narod.ru/english/
Best Regards
Phil
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This app would be good except that when you set the action to turn the light off in say 15 seconds it only does it the first time and then must exit itself because it won't do anything further until you reload it.
I need a program that stays resident and turns the light off after a set period of time. Pressing the power button isn't good enough because that stops a lot of apps running by putting the Kaiser into standby.
Anyone know of a program or fix?
The 8525 turned the backlight off no matter if you used stock or cooked ROM. The 8125 was the same way. Not until I got my Tilt did this "feature" arrive.
There may be some kind of a flaw in the programming. No, that never happens with a M$ program.
I was having the issue described in the thread, backlight stayed on. I played with my power and backlight settings and while searching for the answer my screen dimmed, even though it is connected via USB. I think if you go back and reset your backlight and power settings, that you will then see the desired effect on the PDA screen.
My settings:
Power= On Battery- 1 minute, On External- 2 minutes
Backlight Brightness= On Battery set to middle (half way), On External set to full
Battery Power Tab and External Power Tab- both set to 1 minute
The end result is that after 1 minute my screen dims to the lowest backlight setting. Screen is dim but I can still read what is there.
This is a very old thread, the backlight is always on because the Kaiser's screen is not transreflective like it's predecessor Hermes. If the light is out you will see nothing where you could with the Hermes. It's just the way it is with this model.
I have another question which it is related with the backlight and power off.
I tried to power off the phone by pressing and holding the power button. It asks me to confirm it. However, after the phone is "powered" off, it seems can be turned on by sliding out the keyboard.
Is it normal? or is it something to be fixed?
I have an ATT Tilt with stock ROM.
(just got it few days ago from ebay).
Thanks.
Down with new, weird "features"!
Lidberg said:
The 8525 turned the backlight off no matter if you used stock or cooked ROM. The 8125 was the same way. Not until I got my Tilt did this "feature" arrive.
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If I read your sarcasm correctly, I am in agreement that this is a dubious feature. I think there are a number of changes from 8125&8525 to "8925" that are questionable. I wish HTC would spend more time getting the hardware and basic features working perfectly, and less time adding new programs just to change the look.
Transflective . . .
RemE said:
This is a very old thread, the backlight is always on because the Kaiser's screen is not transreflective like it's predecessor Hermes. If the light is out you will see nothing where you could with the Hermes. It's just the way it is with this model.
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Everything I can find in searching says both the Hermes and the Kaiser have transflective screens, (as well as the 8125); e.g., from elite-electronics.com RE: the Tytn II: "color transflective TFT". [However, neither the 8125 or Tytn II have the technology that allows good viewing in daylight, like a Garmin Nuvi 350 or similar]
But if you can actually see something on screen on the Hermes when backlight is turned off, then that is truly different from the 8125 and the Tilt.
plchan said:
I have another question which it is related with the backlight and power off.
I tried to power off the phone by pressing and holding the power button. It asks me to confirm it. However, after the phone is "powered" off, it seems can be turned on by sliding out the keyboard.
Is it normal? or is it something to be fixed?
I have an ATT Tilt with stock ROM.
(just got it few days ago from ebay).
Thanks.
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This is normal behavior. If you don't like it...download KaiserTweak.
Under the Keyboard->Slide Wake option you can disable it.
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If I read your sarcasm correctly, I am in agreement that this is a dubious feature. I think there are a number of changes from 8125&8525 to "8925" that are questionable. I wish HTC would spend more time getting the hardware and basic features working perfectly, and less time adding new programs just to change the look.
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Agreed. HTC - stop fixing what isn't broken in the first place.
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Everything I can find in searching says both the Hermes and the Kaiser have transflective screens, (as well as the 8125); e.g., from elite-electronics.com RE: the Tytn II: "color transflective TFT". [However, neither the 8125 or Tytn II have the technology that allows good viewing in daylight, like a Garmin Nuvi 350 or similar]
But if you can actually see something on screen on the Hermes when backlight is turned off, then that is truly different from the 8125 and the Tilt.
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Transreflective is NOT in the HTC TyTN II spec but is in the TyTN I spec. You can't believe a reseller.
If you turn off the backlight on a Hermes and then grab a big flashlight and shine it on the screen, you can then easily see the screen, the brighter the light the better you will be able to see it.
If you try this with Kaiser you will quickly see that the bright light will make it impossible to see the kaiser screen, no mater what backlight setting you choose, and certainly not on low.
It's a simple test and I'm convinced on what I say.
That said, the Kaiser's transmissive screen is super bright in most mid to low light areas since transreflective screens are normally not quite as bright as transmissives.
Hi,
Received my brilliant brilliant kaiser today. Every penny worth an upgrade from trinity apart from a slight brick feeling.
I was wondering if someone knows how to keep QWERTY keyboard lights on all the time while you are using the keyboard. At the moment they stay on for few seconds when keyboard is opened, but turns off later and don't turn on even on pressing keys unless you close and open the keyboard. It would be helpful to type in dark if backlight on keyboard keys stay on as long as keyboard is open.
thanks
heh i use the low tech way, i put my finger over the light sensor
I am wondering the same thing. There is an option for "Automatic keyboard auto sensor" for the backlight under "Settings....Buttons....Backlight" but haven't been able to get it to work. Where is the light sensor? I could possibly go high tech and put tape over it!
Update:
In the Registry, navigate to:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER...Control Panel....Backlight....QKeyLedTimeout
and change the default value from 10(seconds) to something high eg. 180 (3 minutes).
This will keep the backlight on for the specified amount of time.
tworhythms said:
Update:
In the Registry, navigate to:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER...Control Panel....Backlight....QKeyLedTimeout
and change the default value from 10(seconds) to something high eg. 180 (3 minutes).
This will keep the backlight on for the specified amount of time.
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so say you only need the keyboard for 1 min, when you slide it shut does it stay lit for the other 2 min or go off when closed?
One last update....the above registry mod actually will keep the phone button backlights on for the specified time as well as the keyboard backlight. So, this could be a bonus for some. Still haven't found the light sensor on this device I am guessing it is on the keyboard on the left side (tiny hole), but I still haven't been able to activate it. Anybody else had any luck?
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so say you only need the keyboard for 1 min, when you slide it shut does it stay lit for the other 2 min or go off when closed?
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It will go off as soon as you close the keyboard
tworhythms said:
.....there is an option for "Automatic keyboard auto sensor" for the backlight under "Settings....Buttons....Backlight" ......
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Unticking this option actually fixes the issue... If you DON'T enable the auto-sensor, the light will come back on instantly on every new key press (any key..).
Stretching up the time-out with earlier suggested reg-mod is a nice added bonus...
The sensor is slightly left from the Q-key. A little black dot.
Strange,
I put my finger on top of it, and it did not light the keyboard
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The sensor is slightly left from the Q-key. A little black dot.
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Yeah.. my light sensor is iffy... Maybe it is just a bug.. I can be in a totally dark room and they key backlight will not turn on. If i disable the auto sensor the backlight, of course, works as normal.
i think i will have to leave it disabled..
Auto Sensor on p4550
Hello,
I have a kaiser and my auto sensor is not work.
Anyone have auto sensor (for light keyboard) work on his kaiser ?
Thanks.
Private69.
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That is exactly the same problem as I am having. I can't seem to get the keyboard to light up in complete darkness. My other devices never had this problem. The backlight would come on in darkness. Any suggestions?
tworhythms said:
That is exactly the same problem as I am having. I can't seem to get the keyboard to light up in complete darkness. My other devices never had this problem. The backlight would come on in darkness. Any suggestions?
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Most of the time it works for me.. The easiest fix it to simply disable the light sensor. It works just like any other PPC then. If it is misbehaving a reboot will fix it for a while. I haven't actually had any problems for a bit now. I wonder if it has anything to do with the lock password bug? I did disable my lock password and haven't had any problems since.. might just be a coincidence. Wouldn't hurt to try that too just to see.
Any solution for that ?
not sure what you mean? a half press of the camera button turns the lights on
I think he means when a call comes in, the buttons on the face of the phone don't light up... I have been wondering about this too - it's not great when trying to answer a call in the car at night.
I have noticed that as well. Of course, I can touch the screen to answer, but it would be nice to see the red and green call buttons lit up as they did on my Wizard.
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I think he means when a call comes in, the buttons on the face of the phone don't light up...
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This is is my problem.
Happens with the Vario III too!
At present I do not own a TyTN II, but soon that will change (most likely)...but i just want to verify something.
The front buttons; call send, end, ok/softkey, start/sofkey, (and to a lesser extent the directional pad) do not light up at all, or only when a call is coming in?
They are backlit (well, not the directional pad), they are just saying the backlight is not automatically triggered on an imcoming call.
So what is the solutions for this?
How to keep buttons backlit when call is incoming?
Is it possible to keep these buttons backlit as long as the screen is backlighted (would be easier to navigate while you are in car in the dark)
Thanks,
Piotr
I searched registry without result.
Thanks for replay, but is it really true that it can't be changed??!!
pleasy anyone, help!
Help me too
This evening I was walking to my car which was parked on an unlit parking lot. The backlight not coming up automatically is really annoying Any help would be appreciated.
I got used to it. Now I can just press the buttons without looking the phone since there's no solution to it yet.
I found out that solution is pressing the camera button half way down (which is very easy to find and to press) turns on the backlight of all other hardware keys on the front of the device. really helpful.
greetings
Now that i read this thread, i just realized i was feeling for the buttons to answer a call while i was driving cos it was dark & i still am not familiar with the buttons....it's only been a week since i got the TyTN II Would love to see a tweak for this if there is
I found out that solution is pressing the camera button half way down
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That's not a solution. That's finding another button, to turn on the backlight to find another button
Anyway. I'm afraid I have to get used to it. But it's these little things which annoy me more and more. How come interface designers don't think of this?
Has anyone found a solution to this, it's really annoying, I was woken up by a call last night and was fumbling around trying to find the answer key in the dark . My old Artemis used to light up the buttons along with the screen on an incoming call.
I know that many of you have disabled the "Fast Sleep" mode while making a phone call. Well what I'm wanting to do is just the opposite, disable (or lock) the touch screen entirely while making a call. The problem I'm having is that when talking on the phone I always end up touching the screen with my cheek and either accidentally end the call, call someone else, or whatever. I would like to have a utility which would lock the touchscreen maybe 5-10 seconds after a call is established. One of the hard keys or an i-pod type slider function would unlock the screen.
Does anyone know of a utility like this?
I do have the "fast sleep" mode enabled within Kaiser Tweeks. However, while the fast sleep mode turns off the screen to save battery power, it still wakes back up with just a touch.
I have an AT&T Tilt.
I've seen some discussion of S2U2 on this forum, but it appears that S2U2 is a whole new today screen. I would like to keep my today screen unchanged. I only want the screen to lock during a call.
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I've seen some discussion of S2U2 on this forum, but it appears that S2U2 is a whole new today screen. I would like to keep my today screen unchanged. I only want the screen to lock during a call.
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It is a lock not a today replacement. That is what I use.
Thanks parleyp, I guess I'll give s2u2 a try. The info that I've seen just seems rather complicated when all I need is a simple lock utility. Why is there discussions on s2u2 affecting the weather tab, clock display, background, etc?
Which version are you using on your tilt?
Would you be interested in something like that??
If so search for opal dialer in kaiser Rom development subforum.
I am fairly certain that you can just press the "power" button and shut the screen off. When you are ready to hang up, just hit the end button. This is not automatic, but it works for me.
yea, i was gonna say: what's wrong with just pressing the power button?
When i slide the keyboard out the light goes on(nothing wrong here).
Then when i wait a short time the light goes off, but when i press a key again the light doesn't go on again.
I have the HTC wm6.1 rom on my Tytn2.
Are there more people with this issue and is there a fix for it?
anybody???
Do the keys actually work, despite the fact that the light doesn't go on?
read about kaiser keyboard backlight time-out issues...