Couple of questions about G1 - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I recently got a G1, and it has the old firmware(v1.1)
heres what it says on settings->about phone:
Model Number
T-Mobile G1
Firmware version
1.1
Baseband version
65.505.20.17H_2.22.19.23
Kernel version
2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0
[email protected] #1
Build Number
kila-user 1.1 PLAT-RC33 126986
ota-rel-keys,release-keys
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Questions
1.can I update to cupcake without having to setup my phone?(i dont have data plan)
2.Whenever I try to download something on the market, it just says 'starting download' and never starts
3.Can I develop apps with the current android sdk that will work on firmware 1.1 AND 1.5?
I do not have a data plan, and I had to go to a T-Mobile store and fight with the people there until they finally let me use a SIM card to set it up...and I do NOT want to go through that again
also, I'm a C++ programmer with 3 years experience, but no experience at all in Java...so will it be hard, or easy to start developing apps for android?
PLEASE help me with this, even if you can only answer one of the questions it will be GREATLY appreciated since this phone is more complicated than a rubiks cube!

grumpymonkey said:
I recently got a G1, and it has the old firmware(v1.1)
heres what it says on settings->about phone:
Questions
1.can I update to cupcake without having to setup my phone?(i dont have data plan)
2.Whenever I try to download something on the market, it just says 'starting download' and never starts
3.Can I develop apps with the current android sdk that will work on firmware 1.1 AND 1.5?
I do not have a data plan, and I had to go to a T-Mobile store and fight with the people there until they finally let me use a SIM card to set it up...and I do NOT want to go through that again
also, I'm a C++ programmer with 3 years experience, but no experience at all in Java...so will it be hard, or easy to start developing apps for android?
PLEASE help me with this, even if you can only answer one of the questions it will be GREATLY appreciated since this phone is more complicated than a rubiks cube!
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Yes, you can update it and it won't ask for a re-avtivation, dun worry buddy !
The market stuff is crazy sometimes ! Just reboot the phone, and everything will be ok ( make sure your wifi connection is strong enough )
Since I am only a highschool's senior, I can't answer the last question ! Sorry

When you start a project using eclipse with the SDK installed correctly it will ask you 1.1, 1.5, or API.
Search the forums about activating without a dataplan there are instructions on how to do it.

You need the current sdk for cupcake, there is also a ndk for making native c apps too now, so hope you make something good

thanks for the replies.
I rebooted the phone and the downloads worked thx
do you know how to install the cupcake update? I went to setting and system updates, but it said my phone was up-to-date
I am only a highschool's senior
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..ima freshman lol

Since you are on a modded rom, you cannot receive updates, pick out a new rom and go into recovery and flash it, since I am going to assume you are on an old recovery, you are gonna have to rename it to update.zip and put it on the root of your sd

grumpymonkey said:
thanks for the replies.
I rebooted the phone and the downloads worked thx
do you know how to install the cupcake update? I went to setting and system updates, but it said my phone was up-to-date
..ima freshman lol
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You can manually install the update using the threads here, or at t-mobile.com/forums ( go the development section ). The update feature of the phone sucks badly, don't trust it
btw, u make me feel old (

I found on google that if you place update.zip on your phone and boot by pressing home+power, you can update it like that, but will that make me have to setup my phone again? I dont have a data plan, so i'll just stay with 1.1 if I have to

I haven't really started with android development yet, but I've given it a look over. I'm coming from c#.net and most of the syntax is the same, as they are both have roots in C you shouldn't have a problem there. So it's mostly just learning the platform and it's library. .net is managed though like android.
Eclipse isn't really in the same league as Visual Studio though.

grumpymonkey said:
I found on google that if you place update.zip on your phone and boot by pressing home+power, you can update it like that, but will that make me have to setup my phone again? I dont have a data plan, so i'll just stay with 1.1 if I have to
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if you flash a rom that is based on the adp phone (cyanogen's comes to mind)
you can skip singing into your google account until you have wifi set up.

so if i just do the update.zip trick with the cyanogen thing I wont have to sign in with google at all??!?!

grumpymonkey said:
so if i just do the update.zip trick with the cyanogen thing I wont have to sign in with google at all??!?!
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yes no signing into google, but you won't be able to use the market.

so whats the point of it if I cant download anything? or is there another way to get market apps? cause i'd like to have stuff like shazam, ringdroid, and all that cool stuff

grumpymonkey said:
so whats the point of it if I cant download anything? or is there another way to get market apps? cause i'd like to have stuff like shazam, ringdroid, and all that cool stuff
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Well, not until you sign in to your Google Account using Wifi

really?..I want to try it, but I'm scared to do it since I JUST fixed it today, and if i get stuck at the setup screen again I'm screwed! TT_TT
I'll flip a coin..

grumpymonkey said:
really?..I want to try it, but I'm scared to do it since I JUST fixed it today
I'll flip a coin..
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99% sure about this, I've been flashing ROMs, Radio and stuffs regarding my G1 for a while. At first it was kinda scared indeed, but as long as you get through the first time, the left is as easy as eating an apple pie . Ask me and I will answer if I can

all you do is
put the update.zip on the root of your sdcard (i.e. no folders)
power down your phone and boot into recovery with home and power
(optional but may be required if your phone doesn't boot all the way up.)
wipe your phone.
flash the rom
reboot and wait for phone to boot up
choose to skip signing into google
set up your wifi
open the market and you can sign into google on wifi and be able to download apps.

OMG IT WORKED! thanks to all of you
hopefully it wont crash in the future!

grumpymonkey said:
OMG IT WORKED! thanks to all of you
hopefully it wont crash in the future!
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no problem and if i just went home apparently i could tell you you're welcome in person lol

Related

Apologies - noob rooting questions

I did search, honest! I'm halfway thru rooting my phone (downgraded and hardspl's, now just trying to find an up to date image)
real quick - once i'm back up to date on a recent android build can I still:
1. use market?
2. buy apps?
3. use google apps (maps, gmail etc)?
seen various comments on these questions and just want to get the latest info...
thanks!
yes sir, you absolutely can. and if you have already purchased some paid apps, you will be able to recover them post upgrade via market without paying for them again. a very cool feature IMO
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I did search, honest! I'm halfway thru rooting my phone (downgraded and hardspl's, now just trying to find an up to date image)
real quick - once i'm back up to date on a recent android build can I still:
1. use market?
2. buy apps?
3. use google apps (maps, gmail etc)?
seen various comments on these questions and just want to get the latest info...
thanks!
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IM me if you need help
Cheers guys really appreciate the help!
trying to choose a rom now - are the new ones based on the Hero stable on a G1/ worth trying yet? Any major advantage to them?
Thanks again
JACHero is definitely worth trying.. but to use that you need to upgrade your radio and spl.
Just in case it hasn't been said enough times yet, YOU MUST FLASH THE RADIO BEFORE THE SPL OR BRICK WILL ENSUE!
Ok cool - saw some comments about lag / RAM deficiencies on the G1 - have these been ironed out?
Mostly.. jachero uses linux swap now and it's running pretty fast. Just follow the instructions in the first post of the thread to partition your card.
Ok thanks. Are there major advantages in the Hero ROM? It looked a bit 'gloss' in the video if you know what I mean.
Also how's the battery life working out?
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Ok thanks. Are there major advantages in the Hero ROM? It looked a bit 'gloss' in the video if you know what I mean.
Also how's the battery life working out?
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Main advantages to the hero rom are the swish interface, really useful widgets, integration with facebook, twitter and flickr, exchange imap and pop3 support, bragging rights.
I don't see much difference in battery life between this and cyanogen tbh.. but I keep my phone plugged in most of the day sp ymmv.
wow, sounds pretty good! I've started with a cyanogen just to begin with - weird though it's just been paused on the 'android' logo for about 15mins (still animating) ... he mentions:
17. It's taking forever to boot!
The first boot will take longer than normal because dexopt needs to run. If you are nervous, connect USB and run "adb logcat" to watch the progress.
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in the FAQ but is this normal? (I haven't installed all that adb stuff) ... Wary of pulling the battery and screwing things up ...
Just let it load it does take a bit the first time.
If not, go into recovery again and do a wipe ALT+W and then update ALT+S
that's one thing i would go into the first few times.
Thanks wddglr ... trying that now (it was hung for like 20mins)
Great, that worked straight away! Looking good, I'm gonna give Hero a blast soon
Just make sure you follow the SPL upgrade instructions to the letter. That thing has caused enough bricks to defend china from the Mongols.
Heh, ok! Update radio 1st right? ... btw is there any way to exit the recovery console other than pulling the battery?
hmmm ... ok went here: http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
and installed radio, then rebooted and installed SPL - now it hangs on the G1 screen. Any ideas?
update: browsing another forum I tried booting with the camera button down and I get this skating android screen!
Home+power also works - Can I do an ALT+W without wiping the radio / SPL? ...
I got the same thing and I don't mind telling you that I was crapping myself
As long as you did the radio first (just in case there is anybody who didn't get that ) all I had to do was do another wipe (just wipes user data\apps etc - not radio or SPL or other "firmware stuff") and then that should work.
It didn't in my case but I just re-applied the ROM update and it worked OK but my heart was racing for a good 30 minutes
Also, you should look into flashing a recovery image onto there - I use Cyanogens (1.3.1 i think) and it's great - can do everything with the trackball etc...
Cheers,
Smiffy.
Home and back exits the recovery console and just incase you didn't know, the 2 phone buttons plus menu is like CTRL-ALT-DEL
Brilliant thanks Lordsmiff .. I just found these instructions along the same lines!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534461
Nice one
'jacHero' didn't work the 1st time, trying a wipe and reinstall now...
what threw me was I expected it to reboot each time I made a change, didn't realise I had to use a card reader to add the main rom!
cheers

Rooted and do not have green android icon anymore

i recently rooted my phone and when i try to upgrade anything on my phone from xda it cant. it is telling me that the updates are cancelled. when i first rooted my phone it had the green android icon but now it just comes up android in blue, is this a problem.
Sounds like you flashed a ROM with an alternate boot image (Cyanogen, maybe?). One of the most common mistakes that people make is assuming that the phone is not doing anything during the initial load, which takes a long, long time.
Do you have adb? If so type adb logcat while the phone is booting during the "blue logo." If you see the phone is loading up a bunch of stuff (and the stuff doesn't repeat itself), WAIT! After a while you will come to your home screen.
i do not know what adb is sorry for being so new to this. is this an application or etc... all i know is that i downloaded jf updater and everything changed to the way the phone was right before i rooted it.
thanks for helping
neuvtec said:
I recently rooted my phone and when i try to upgrade anything on my phone from xda it cant. it is telling me that the updates are cancelled. when i first rooted my phone it had the green android icon but now it just comes up android in blue, is this a problem.
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The blue android text during boot up is because you flashed an ADP ROM, this is normal, don't worry.
When you say an update what do you mean? Do you mean a ROM (update.zip) or the update t-mobile just pushed out? I assume you're talking about the latter, don't worry about that update, you don't need it.
Btw, what's with the green text? Kinda annoying to read...
sorry about the green. the rom upadate.zip and a update from jf updater. how do i correct this problem.
neuvtec said:
sorry about the green. the rom upadate.zip and a update from jf updater. how do i correct this problem.
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What recovery are you using?
Thanks for the help
I just went ahead an rerooted my phone and it is working properly. thanks for all the assistance and help. I am new to this rooting stuff. What would you all recommend me adding to my phone, apps. themes, etc...
what do i need to upgrade
I am new to the whole rooting process and am wondering are there any applications or anything else that I need to add to my phone. Anything would help me. I am looking to learn and do some amazing things with my dream so any info is appreciated and needed.
did u root ur phone N put a hard spl on it
neuvtec said:
I am new to the whole rooting process and am wondering are there any applications or anything else that I need to add to my phone. Anything would help me. I am looking to learn and do some amazing things with my dream so any info is appreciated and needed.
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I'm not really sure what you're asking. To root just follow the guides in the development section..
sorry for any confusion
sorry for the confusion, if have already rooted the phone. I was just wondering what upgrades would you all advice me to get. For instance what are some good applications that everyone is using.
Good applications is really a personal prefrence. All I can say is play around and find the ones you like.
neuvtec said:
sorry for the confusion, if have already rooted the phone. I was just wondering what upgrades would you all advice me to get. For instance what are some good applications that everyone is using.
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tell me what u are looking for. loking for a hero rom? they do run a bit laggy but it looks nice
or do u want speed and a different look.?
apps are a personal preference but my fav apps are phandroid, tech buzz for android news. atrackdog is a must have! use it daily to find updates for ur current apps since the default update notifier doesnt always work. ringdroid to make ring tones. and opera min..internet browser built for speed. u might think its gay at first but its speed is awesome and u just have to get used to it.
Personally, I would recommend you start by picking a good ROM to put on your phone (I recommend Cyanogen's)...then tweak and hack away XD

this is odd

solved!!!!
You lost root when you rolled back to rc 29. You'll need to redo the process.
Yep just like he said. When you reload RC29 you lose root.
Yes I know I lost root not worried about that. My phone will not let me install in apk. From the market or the internet. I can down load them but not install them
any ideas
let me clear stuff up. i know i lost root im not trying to flash anything to my phone. ( i have rooted 3 different g1s several times and a couple of different ways i have good idea how this works i think)
i cant install any application on my phone!
i am getting a installation unsuccessful error with all .apks on rc 29.
also this mean i can not get root back do the fact i cant telnet or run any third party app.
so my phone i stuck in original stock hell.
jmon777 said:
let me clear stuff up. i know i lost root im not trying to flash anything to my phone. ( i have rooted 3 different g1s several times and a couple of different ways i have good idea how this works i think)
i cant install any application on my phone!
i am getting a installation unsuccessful error with all .apks on rc 29.
also this mean i can not get root back do the fact i cant telnet or run any third party app.
so my phone i stuck in original stock hell.
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have you tried re-doing the DREAIMG.nbh
i hope you are not stuck in stock hell
david1171 said:
have you tried re-doing the DREAIMG.nbh
i hope you are not stuck in stock hell
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yeah i did 3 or 4 times. i tried new down load no luck still. what the heck is this? i am stumped!!!!
jmon777 said:
yeah i did 3 or 4 times. im going to try a a new one and see if that helps maybe it some how got corrupted.
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man i really hope that is it. stock is so sad
david1171 said:
man i really hope that is it. stock is so sad
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no luck is there an way to flash a newer rom to the phone without root?
jmon777 said:
no luck is there an way to flash a newer rom to the phone without root?
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unasari1 (i think that is his name) has the ota cupcake rom in his sig uploaded to media fire. download it and flash it, then use one click root to flash the recovery and flash your custom rom from it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563882 he has a post in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550050 my one click root guide (though i know you are smart enough to do it easily but it has a link to get the recovery flasher)
david1171 said:
unasari1 (i think that is his name) has the ota cupcake rom in his sig uploaded to media fire. download it and flash it, then use one click root to flash the recovery and flash your custom rom from it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563882 he has a post in this thead
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ok cool thats what i was trying to do but could not find it on Google. man they are pissing me off lately
jmon777 said:
ok cool thats what i was trying to do but could not find it on Google. man they are pissing me off lately
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i feel your pain. i tried to find it too and it was gone from all of their code pages. also i put my one click root guide up so you can get the recovery flasher.
i cant find that user in the user search.
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i cant find that user in the user search.
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i put a link to a thread he posted in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=1107735 here is his user profile
The problem is that rc29 is based on Android 1.0 and currently the telnet app in the market is made for Android 1.5... that's why that, or any other of your 1.5 apps, fail to install.
Try to find a copy fo the 1.0 release of telnetd and try again
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=1107735 here is his user profile
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sorry thought you were providing a link to one click root thread sorry its been a long night.
ok i think i had a swap partition still on my sd card. and when i flashed back it some how read that as internal memory so i used another card. and it worked like magic. lol gosh im dumb!!! if you ever need anything feel free to ask me i would give some money but im broke college kid. and im about to test and see if get the same results and if i do i would like the word out. because i think one click root app will be short lived (which kind of sucks).
jubeh said:
The problem is that rc29 is based on Android 1.0 and currently the telnet app in the market is made for Android 1.5... that's why that, or any other of your 1.5 apps, fail to install.
Try to find a copy fo the 1.0 release of telnetd and try again
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yes every app i tried to install failed including astro which i knew last week was working. and even so i would not get a force close instead of failure to install?
jubeh said:
The problem is that rc29 is based on Android 1.0 and currently the telnet app in the market is made for Android 1.5... that's why that, or any other of your 1.5 apps, fail to install.
Try to find a copy fo the 1.0 release of telnetd and try again
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Not true, I can drop to RC29 and download and install telnet.

Cant get past dum activation screen after flashing dreaimg.nbh and cupcake

i dont have a data plan now so i cant activate the phone and i cant use adb cause its not working on win7 for me..is there anyway i can just flash spl and radio and skip the recovery image? I tried someones sim but it just says error when i try to register.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.. or Confirm this is correct. but..
If you're on an official rom you're out of luck, but if you can update to an ADP rom no login will be required. It's not a SPL or radio issue, purely rom based.
sonikamd said:
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.. or Confirm this is correct. but..
If you're on an official rom you're out of luck, but your can always update to an ADP rom. No login required on those. It's not a SPL or radio issue, purely rom based.
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im not sure wat ADP is..but im trying to root and i followed the guide for one click root from unlockr, is there anyway for me to use a ADP rom?
What phone are you using on what network? Was the other person's sim card on the same network? did they have an android data plan?
ADP means Android Developer Phone.
sonikamd said:
What phone are you using on what network? Was the other person's sim card on the same network? did they have an android data plan?
ADP means Android Developer Phone.
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Oh both sims were tmobile US, and the other phone was a moto zn5 so it wasnt a g1 plan.
So I'm *assuming* you're on a G1. You basically have three choices, either goto a t-mobile store and beg one of their techs to let ya use their data to register, find someone else with a g1+data and ask to use their sim card or go adp.
The downside of going with an adp rom is you'll loose the t-mobile branded stuff like tmo ringtones, the myfaves app, ?youtube? (not sure on this one, you should do some reading first or hope someone else chips in).
If you really need your phone now, and are able to install custom roms the adp version of donut can be found --here-- Note: I run the official roms so am not too well versed in ADP vs. AOSP+ADP but it looks like you may actually want the latter(AOSP+ADP)
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So I'm *assuming* you're on a G1. You basically have three choices, either goto a t-mobile store and beg one of their techs to let ya use their data to register, find someone else with a g1+data and ask to use their sim card or go adp.
The downside of going with an adp rom is you'll loose the t-mobile branded stuff like tmo ringtones, the myfaves app, ?youtube? (not sure on this one, you should do some reading first or hope someone else chips in).
If you really need your phone now, and are able to install custom roms the adp version of donut can be found --here-- Note: I run the official roms so am not too well versed in ADP vs. AOSP+ADP but it looks like you may actually want the latter(AOSP+ADP)
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i dont have root i just installed dreaimg.nbh then flashed cupcake via home+end the press alt+l then alt+s.So i dont have any custom recovery images on my g1.
what guide did you follow? I'm confused, i thought the dreaimg.nbh was part of the rooting/testkey part...
sonikamd said:
what guide did you follow? I'm confused, i thought the dreaimg.nbh was part of the rooting/testkey part...
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this first:
http://theunlockr.com/2009/07/05/how-to-unroot-your-t-mobile-g1/
im up to this but at setup screen:
http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/22/how-to-root-the-mytouch-3g-or-g1-in-one-click/
can i rename the recovery image to update.zip the load it in recovery mode?
No, no renaming the recovery image.
Ok, so let me get this straight. You unrooted a rooted phone, to install the official cupcake so you could "one touch" root it which installs a custom recovery image @ the same time?
this is starting to hurt my head...
sonikamd said:
No, no renaming the recovery image.
Ok, so let me get this straight. You unrooted a rooted phone, to install the official cupcake so you could "one touch" root it which installs a custom recovery image @ the same time?
this is starting to hurt my head...
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i never rooted before i was just following the instructions because i had 1.6/donut on my phone.all i wanted to do was install a hero rom and the one click is the shortest way i knew.
Gotcha, headaches gone but unfortunately it looks like your stuck. It appears this process *assumes* you have a data connection(for the login process) and without this most guides out there are going to be useless, especially at this point.
I'd say add data for a month or w/e then remove it if you must once done doing what you're doin... or go back to looking for someone with data that can help ya get logged in. Bout the only ways out I can forsee atm.. Wish I could be more help...
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Gotcha, headaches gone but unfortunately it looks like your stuck. It appears this process *assumes* you have a data connection(for the login process) and without this most guides out there are going to be useless, especially at this point.
I'd say add data for a month or w/e then remove it if you must once done doing what you're doin... or go back to looking for someone with data that can help ya get logged in. Bout the only ways out I can forsee atm.. Wish I could be more help...
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thanks for the help
I was gonna get flex-pay at Tmo since i hate being tied down to contracts and it can have a g1 data plan added.
alright, cool. Ya, i just got it from someone else wiser than I that without data you've got a long road ahead of ya getting your phone back up n running.
You can always do it the old-fashioned way... Just downgrade to RC29, login with WiFi. Then do the root process that way. Only takes 15min at most.
h.nocturna said:
You can always do it the old-fashioned way... Just downgrade to RC29, login with WiFi. Then do the root process that way. Only takes 15min at most.
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i cant use wifi since icant get in to settings since im at setup screen
Ace42 said:
i cant use wifi since icant get in to settings since im at setup screen
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There's a way to bypass it with rooted ROMs, of which RC29 is one. You can. There's a whole guide on how to do it.

Sign out of Google or Reset the phone ?

i bought a used g1 on ebay for $40 and when i click on various settings it states a gmail email address but it doesnt let me change it, only enter the previous users password. how do i delete his account? should i just reset the phone to factory default? if so how do i do that? also Wifi is available right now, if i reset the phone will the wifi become locked? i dont have a data plan just prepaid plan. thanks for you help in advance
You have to reset it first. Then You will need to setup Your own google account details. You will be able to set your own wifi settings and turn off data if Your pay as you go plan not include it. Read forums and download manuals as it can save a lot of stress and money for You. Enjoy Your google device
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im on pay as you go, so will my wifi be disabled once i reset? also how do i access the android marketplace on android 1.6? do i need my own gmail account and where do i find the android store?
zanbeak said:
im on pay as you go, so will my wifi be disabled once i reset? also how do i access the android marketplace on android 1.6? do i need my own gmail account and where do i find the android store?
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Yes you need a gmail account to use any google app, and the app is called Android market. Just look around the phone and you should figure stuff out eventually...
zanbeak said:
im on pay as you go, so will my wifi be disabled once i reset? also how do i access the android marketplace on android 1.6? do i need my own gmail account and where do i find the android store?
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Yes your wifi will become disabled, but here's a way to turn it back on:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Google_Login_via_a_WiFi_Connection
http://androidforums.com/g1-support/6564-activate-stock-g1-over-wifi.html
Choose whichever is more understandable for you
BTW, this will downgrade you to 1.0, so if you want to use newer firmware you're gonna have to root and flash a custom ROM.
I can walk you through it, if you don't know how.
that whole guide is just to enable wifi? why the hell has htc even locked out wifi???? also since your guide downgrades me to 1.00 isnt it easier for me to just install custom android firmware that gives me access to wifi,etc?
zanbeak said:
that whole guide is just to enable wifi? why the hell has htc even locked out wifi???? also since your guide downgrades me to 1.00 isnt it easier for me to just install custom android firmware that gives me access to wifi,etc?
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Wifi isn't accessable until after you sign into google... I just got my g1 too, but mine only cost 3 weeks of begging a friend! Without data, it's a PITA. I borrowed a friends sim card (with data) to sign in to google, and once past that, turned on wifi and switched back to my sim. Much easier if you have the option.
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that whole guide is just to enable wifi? why the hell has htc even locked out wifi???? also since your guide downgrades me to 1.00 isnt it easier for me to just install custom android firmware that gives me access to wifi,etc?
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Yes they just want to force a data plan on you
And to install custom android firmware, then you'd need to start with 1.00
After you do the wifi thing and sign in, you go on to rooting and flashing a custom recovery. Then the rest is easy peasy. If you want to I can help you. You should install Froyobylaszlo.
im worried about bricking the device, plus on some of these guides i clicked the terminology is unclear or not explained such as "terminal", etc
I've messed with my dream so much and never bricked it
And I just rooted my first mytouch 3g slide today...
Only the first time is scary
But if your worried, then just do a lot of research and make sure you become familiar with it all
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Trying going to settings>account or something like that and remove the account
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IIRC that's not possible
But yeah, it won't kill ya if you check
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Oh the old jesusfreke bypass hack.,thats my most favorite one. It looks complex but its so awesome and simple
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Try to follow the Cyanogen's Wiki
Here's how to setup an google account with a Wi-Fi connection:
http : // wiki . cyanogenmod . com/wiki/Google_Login_via_a_WiFi_Connection
These steps will only work if you haven't added an account yet, and you're on RC29 system software
Here you have instructions to install RC29 system software, in section "Downgrading the Firmware":
http : // wiki . cyanogenmod . com/wiki/HTC_Dream:_Rooting
If you've an GSM data plan you can just do a wipe, and then login with your data plan.
To wipe, power off your phone, turn it on while holding the "Home" button. You'll see an triangle with an "!" inside, just press Alt+L, and then Alt+w. Reboot your phone and login with your GAccount!
Complete info about all this on Cyanogen's wiki for HTC Dream:
http : // wiki . cyanogenmod . com/wiki/HTC_Dream
Just remove spaces from the links!
hey i followed your guides above and i have installed rc29 and i setupd a google account on my wifi network. im on android 1.0.
so i go to the Market in my phone and i click list all applications or games and it cant find any except solitare. where are the thousands of android apps?????
are they not available on android 1.0??? do i have to upgrade my firmware to access the full android market? is so how do i upgrade? can i upgrade normally without hacking the phone again? how did the original G1 upgrade originally? basically i dont care what firmware i have i just want to have access to the thousands of apps on android market. how do i do that? thanks in advance
zanbeak said:
hey i followed your guides above and i have installed rc29 and i setupd a google account on my wifi network. im on android 1.0.
so i go to the Market in my phone and i click list all applications or games and it cant find any except solitare. where are the thousands of android apps?????
are they not available on android 1.0??? do i have to upgrade my firmware to access the full android market? is so how do i upgrade? can i upgrade normally without hacking the phone again? how did the original G1 upgrade originally? basically i dont care what firmware i have i just want to have access to the thousands of apps on android market. how do i do that? thanks in advance
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1.0 doesn't have many apps
There's a way to upgrade...
Look it up.
I can't right now.
When I get to a computer ill post a link if you haven't found one by then
But I really recommend rooting and installing a custom rom...
the OTA update doesnt happen on wifi. im guessing this rc29 i installed is already a custom rom. so what is the best custom rom for the G1 right now? i dont want anything that will slow down the phone. what do you recommend? any easy guides? will this be easier than the other guides u posted? thanks
First, flash the original RC29 G1 firmware, it's a DREAIMG.NBH file that's flashed from the bootloader.
The market thing is kinda simple to solve. Don't use the categories and these things, use the "Search function" (Menu > Search on market).
Then, you have 2 options from here:
1. Flash the cupcake upgade OR...
2. Flash an alternative recovery from telnet.
I really recomend the second option, shorter and less MiBytes to download.
Then, the idea is to update the radio and from here you can install the new SPL/Radio combo for 14 MB extras on RAM, or the combo that you prefer. Till' here all the hard part is done, the thing that lefts to do is a wipe (recommended one from fastboot), and flash the rom/kernel that you prefer.
If you want step-by step guidance, you can follow this guide: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Dream:_Rooting
Do all the process till' the "Flashing Radio" section (do the flash radio thing, but don't do more steps).
From here, you must decide what SPL/Radio combo you prefer, the 2708+ radio and 1.33.0013d SPL is a good combo cause it allows to the phone to use 14 MB extras on RAM. The only thing is that this SPL/Radio combo is problematic with android 2.1.x and earlier, special kernels are needed and they aren't so easy to find. But if you're planning to install android 2.2.x or later, then this SPL combo will be one of the bests.
For guidance to flash radio/spl/rom/kernel and these things after following cyanogen's wiki, you can post here. Also, there are lot of threads here in XDA that guide you to do these SPL/Radio and other things, but be really carefull with them, you can harm your phone in a irreversible way.
i dont understand most of the terms you are mentioning. i downgraded to rc29. now what is the highest level of android available for the G1 that is an Official download from tmobile or htc. how do i install it?
http://androidandme.com/2009/10/beg...the-official-t-mobile-android-1-6-on-your-g1/
is that guide correct or do you have a better easier guide?
also what is the best unofficial rom to download for the G1? android 2.2? android 4? i dont know what spl is or radio,etc, what is the easiest guide for noobs? there are so many rom threads in the forum i dont know where to start. what is hands-down without a doubt the best rom available for the G1 right now, official or unofficial and a guide for it? let me know thanks. also are there any chances or bricking the phone?
zanbeak said:
http://androidandme.com/2009/10/beg...the-official-t-mobile-android-1-6-on-your-g1/
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About that link, better that you don't try it. You may have serious problems with so many written commands.
I'll be putting this as simple as i can
Respecting to the ROM and SPL and Radio and all those, just a few questions to decide about it:
You'll like features as share internet via WiFi, Bluetooth, USB, install aplications from market that require newest versions of Android, block ads on web pages and aplications, transfer files via bluetooth, they're kinda good stuff to try a larger guide for you? Or you won't those functions and prefer a shorter way?
Be adviced that with the shorter way you'll suffer all the T-Mobile limitations, with the larger one you'll have tons of capabilities and posibilities.
So, decide about this.
And some questions, to recommend you a ROM that adequates to your needs...
You would like the rom to be fast? To have a good look and apperance? To be stable and work apropiately and don't give you troubles/malfunction? To simply have the latest android operating system? To play games nicely? To have lot, lot of aplications installed? In resume, what will you need/require from a ROM, what are the specifications by what you'll definetively decide for them?
You have a T-Mobile G1, a Roger's/Orange one, or a Android Dev Phone 1 (this is shown when you power up the phone, the first screen tells you that)?
Your SD card is of how much gigabytes...? What class is your SD card?
And finally, yes, you've many changes to brick the phone by only doing little things bad (like 4 bad, bad clicks on your phone and you'll be done with it). So, please be carefull and patient, this will assegurate that your phone will be well configurated and don't give any trubles.
Waiting for your answers to give you more and more detailed and non harmfull steps
If you have a doubt of why so many questions, you can ask freely, I'll give you the reasons why does them matter. And... it would be faster if you answer them and ask at the same time

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