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Tilt: Camera Slow to respond?

Hello,
I am having another annoyance with my Tilt. The camera is damn slow. First the on-screen rate is stop-motion like, then the auto focus button takes 2-3 seconds to focus, and finally the photo takes a few seconds more to capture. B that time, the photo opportunity is gone, or I just have a blurry picture.
The 8525 was much faster...
Any ideas? Thanks!

I'm sure it's the new autofocus function that is responsible for the speed. It's not something you find in many cell phone cameras, and gives much better photos for many situations. But yes, the slow speed is a shame.

Well if the picture is blurry, but has great focus....what's the point? lol
Honestly, after spending a few hours tinkering with this phone, the 8125 --> 8525 was a much larger, more needed upgrade. The 8525 did have some caveats, which I was hoping they would fix, but they seemed to just get worse. For example, screen rotation is simply slower on WM6 than it was on WM5. I want a PDA that has Windows capabilities, but without the hiccups that Mobile exhibits. I was hoping the 8925 would be the solution, but I guess I will have to wait another year for a true converged device. Such a shame that a very well made device has to be crippled by a poor operating system. Not saying it's horrific, but definitely could be a lot better.

i've notice the blurry thing...but once you get use to holding it steady the pics come out amazing.

One thing I have found that helps is to use the Camera button to take pictures - You can press the Camera button half way down and let it focus, then press it the rest of the way down to actually take the picture when you want to snap. Doesn't help the whole 'catch it right then' situation, but it does help some...

Thats one of the bugbears with this new phone is the time it takes to snap a pic I know its more a phone than a digital camera but why put a 3mpix camera in there if its not meant to at least equal old digital cameras (casio, olympus, fuji etc etc). I like the extra features of it but not at the expense of it taking 5-6 seconds for people or things to stand perfectly still in order to get that pic
Russ

I have found that the greater the amount of light the quicker it takes pictures.

maryjos said:
I'm sure it's the new autofocus function that is responsible for the speed. It's not something you find in many cell phone cameras, and gives much better photos for many situations. But yes, the slow speed is a shame.
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My 2 megapixel SE K750i from YEARS ago (I had it two years ago as an import phone) had no issues with it's autofocus lens. It also took much better photos.
The camera app is pitifully slow. I've tried shooting a lower res or lower quality and that doesn't change the on-screen display, and yeah the autofocus is crazy slow. I guess we should look to HTC for advice, as it's their camera app.

Yah it's a bummer that it's not that fast, but the phone really is a powerhouse of applications. If this thing was running WM2003 on this processor it would be blindingly fast, but with any power loss, the data would be gone. So far speed is the price we pay to have a device that you can pull the battery out of and not lose any data... When I use my HP hx4700 VGA PPC running 2003, it still blows me away how fast they used to be before this new "persistant storage" feature. I don't know if this would help the camera specifically, but I wonder.

Well, it's damn annoying. I would rather the speed and flashlight than an autofocus lens or 3MP.

JBHorne said:
Well, it's damn annoying. I would rather the speed and flashlight than an autofocus lens or 3MP.
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Agree completely, I had high hopes, the 3MP autofocus sure looked good on paper, but now I just miss the flashlight

i heard that it's because of the software, i think paul from modacco said that cameraware is much better (and i THINK he said that it was faster to take pictures).
Can anyone test this out?

...nice tip
As mentioned in another post. If you turn off the "shutter sound" it seems to respond faster. I've tested and it seems to work form me.

I have also noticed that when I push the OFF button and then turn it back on the camera is much much better.

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I've tried all of the previously suggested options and the pics are still blurry.
I have a Nokia 6300 2MP camera phone and it's pics are sharper and better with no blurriness whatsoever.
Even the old Wizard I have is better
This isn't an issue of me having an unsteady hand either, I've been an amateur photographer for many years and have no probs using my old ancient SLRs or new DSLRs, even when snapping with a camera in each hand.

Aeroadster said:
I've tried all of the previously suggested options and the pics are still blurry.
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The lens protector on the battery cover may be scratched or worn (mine is). I get much clearer photos when I take the battery cover off. Other posts describe using certain polishes to restore a clear lens protector.
That's what I get for keeping the phone in my pocket.

I remember reading a post about the fps when taking video. I use the fix when taking regular pictures too, because it appears to speed up the viewfinder as well.
fix:
1. Cover the top half of the phone (where the lens is) with your hand, to decrease the light available.
2. Press the power button to put your device into sleep mode, or whatever it is that they call it.
3. Without moving your hand, press the power button again to wake up the device. This appears to cause the camera software to reinitialize with decreased light settings.
Yeah, it sucks, and yeah, I miss my Tytn camera and led light. Hope this helps!

Slow Camera

I have a new tilt and the camera seems very slow and sluggish. When I move the phone around the picture gets blurry and there is an awful delay. Any fix?

Hello, wake up, join us on the GPU driver waiting list

dylanc430 said:
I have a new tilt and the camera seems very slow and sluggish. When I move the phone around the picture gets blurry and there is an awful delay. Any fix?
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same... tried all roms just to get this fixed... no luck... theres no picture i have taken that isnt blurred atleast a bit...
HTC fix it or lose a fan forever !!!
EDIT: fit it or lose 14222 fans forever

drownage said:
same... tried all roms just to get this fixed... no luck... theres no picture i have taken that isnt blurred atleast a bit...
HTC fix it or lose a fan forever !!!
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For me, I felt like Leo's latest v4 ROM had the fastest image previewing and capturing of all ROMs I've tested. To go to the thread, CLICK HERE.

you call that a camera?
drownage said:
same... tried all roms just to get this fixed... no luck... theres no picture i have taken that isnt blurred atleast a bit...
HTC fix it or lose a fan forever !!!
EDIT: fit it or lose 14222 fans forever
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i surely hope that you didnt get the kaiser so that you use it as a camera! I would give up the camera if it would make it thinner, lighter, or cheaper... even for non of the above.
HTC, please remove the camera and sliding keyboard and make the thing thinner... if not i'm sure you'll not lose anyone you weren't gonna lose once the new iphone is out with 3G, gps, and custon softs.

Ok I have some points to make here. You guys ever heard the phrase, "Jack of all Trades, Master of none"? It means the Kaiser is not the Best Phone or Camera or GPS device. But they are good enough. If you want quality Prints get a Digital SLR. Nikon with 51 Focus Points!. Yeah Baby!
Second, If you pop off the battery cover and take a picture of something, then pop it back on and take the very same picture. Compare the Two. The Plastic over the Camera clouds the pictures. I personally Broke the Plastic Away from in front of the Camera, It takes great pictures now.
I swear, Why do you guys keep dwelling on this Driver Issue. Its like this one time I touched the stove, The burner was On, I burned my hand. I now don't touch the stove when it's on. HTC has blew past some many promises of these "Magical Fix all drivers." That I now don't care for or expect the drivers.

JimmyMcGee said:
Ok I have some points to make here. You guys ever heard the phrase, "Jack of all Trades, Master of none"? It means the Kaiser is not the Best Phone or Camera or GPS device. But they are good enough. If you want quality Prints get a Digital SLR. Nikon with 51 Focus Points!. Yeah Baby!
Second, If you pop off the battery cover and take a picture of something, then pop it back on and take the very same picture. Compare the Two. The Plastic over the Camera clouds the pictures. I personally Broke the Plastic Away from in front of the Camera, It takes great pictures now.
I swear, Why do you guys keep dwelling on this Driver Issue. Its like this one time I touched the stove, The burner was On, I burned my hand. I now don't touch the stove when it's on. HTC has blew past some many promises of these "Magical Fix all drivers." That I now don't care for or expect the drivers.
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My main question is jimmy, the tilt has a camera WERE???
hahahaha

JimmyMcGee said:
Second, If you pop off the battery cover and take a picture of something, then pop it back on and take the very same picture. Compare the Two. The Plastic over the Camera clouds the pictures. I personally Broke the Plastic Away from in front of the Camera, It takes great pictures now.
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Tried it , nice tip! Next time I forget the Nikon (coopic ha) and I absolutly have to take a pic with the Kaiser, I'm taking the cover off. Picture came out 50% clearer.

Quick Solution
In order to have a faster responding camera, do the following:
Turn on your camera
Press the power button to switch the device to standby mode
wait for 5 seconds
Switch on
You will have the camera much faster
Note that you are to turn off the key lock app if you have it on in order to have this working
HOPING FOR FULL DRIVERS.....NEVER GONNA HAPPEN
AWAITING THE XPERIA

i figured out a way to make it better..u need light tho otherwise it will be really dark..if its laggy leave ur camera on and press power wait for a couple secons and press power again..it should be black for a while and then ur camera will come up but it will be very dark..tell me if this helps

I have an easier fix. Turn off your wifi before taking pictures. If you haven't noticed, clicking the power button to go into standby suspends the wifi. When you click the power button again you will have about 3-5 solid seconds of faster camera until the wifi turns back on then it'll be lagging again as usual. So just turn off the wifi then take pictures. If you have a AT&T Tilt you can easily turn off the wifi by hitting Fn then Right arrow on your keyboard, then do the same thing again when you want to turn it back on.
Doing that and also doing what Jimmy said in this post
JimmyMcGee said:
Second, If you pop off the battery cover and take a picture of something, then pop it back on and take the very same picture. Compare the Two. The Plastic over the Camera clouds the pictures. I personally Broke the Plastic Away from in front of the Camera, It takes great pictures now.
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Will give you some amazing picture quality compared to before.

Be happy you have a camera on your phone. I remember when all there was were big block bag phones
I have noticed each phone I have had is different based on the lighting conditions. Some cameras do better indoors some outdoors. Its all based on the lighting conditions(incadescent, flourescent). The kaiser cameras work best in natural light. Outdoors the camera will hardly blur, take it indoors and it blurs really bad.

thanks fot the tip
I have triying it and it was very usefull, it really works
fireblade63 said:
In order to have a faster responding camera, do the following:
Turn on your camera
Press the power button to switch the device to standby mode
wait for 5 seconds
Switch on
You will have the camera much faster
Note that you are to turn off the key lock app if you have it on in order to have this working
HOPING FOR FULL DRIVERS.....NEVER GONNA HAPPEN
AWAITING THE XPERIA
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I can't believe it. This workaround really works!

thanks for the advice

Whose camera cannot Touch->FOCUS ?

Dear fellas,
Although this topic has been briefly discussed in various locations, it hasn't gotten "big" enough.
I know a number of ya guys are having this problem. The touch-sensitive action button used to focus does not focus the camera (and yes, I have set it to "touch & press").
Mine works intermittently, in fact, doesn't work most of the time. I know it's 100% not a hardware problem, as the button lights up and brightens up my screen according to normal behavior. Now I'm wondering, for those guys who don't have this problem, do U have a different version of the camera app?
K.. mine's the stock HK 1.93.831 ROM and my cam app is version 6.00 (build 31516).
I'm not sure what causes this problem. Although I'm not a camera freak, but this prob makes my baby "imperfect".
Pls post yr ROM and camera version (I wonder if there's a difference) and state if youre experiencing this problem. Thanks!

Hi MasK,
I'm having the same problem as you, the "touch & press" feature didn't work most of the time.
I'm using HTC SG ROM 1.37.871.3, camera version 6.0 (Build 31364).

I used to think the camera didn't focus properly until I took some time to play with it. It's pretty slow, but mine seems to work. When I touch the button, it will take anywhere from 1-5 seconds to focus, and then the cross-hair turns green and beeps to indicate focus lock. At first I didn't realize I needed to wait for the beep, so my shots were out of focus. Seems to work fine now that I know that.
I'm currently on stock 1.37.401.3 with camera 6.0 Build 31364 ... same as previous post, just a different ROM region, which I doubt makes a difference.

i have a similar problem where i run the camera app, then the 1st time i place my thumb over the button nothing happens, but if i take my thumb away and try again it will work fine.
It will continue working fine untill i restart the camera app, just never registers the 1st attempt.

This does show that there is some serious prob with this functionality. For me, it's the first time that has a higher chance of working.. not subsequently.
How abt the rest? We needa find out what's causing this!

upz...
Anymore ppl having this prob?

Same here. Most of the time, including 1st time also fails.

+1, most of the time I have to click on the button to do the focus + photo. When I just touch, the camera tries to focus but the square doesn't become green. Sometimes there's no white square at all.

Hi,
mine recognizes the first touch so it focuses correctly but after i take the picture, it doesn't focus anymore when i touch it. actually i just found out about this focus thing and tested. until now i always just pressed the button when trying to make pictures and it always makes a focus and then capture the image. is this OK or it makes them better if i first let him focus and then press the button all the way?
p.s. i do have "touch and press" selected.
p.s.2: is there any way i can change exposure time or something like that so my pictures won't get blurry when my hand shakes or something? many of my pictures are fuzzy because i don't really have a steady hand :-s
Best regards,
Florin

GeckoDev said:
I used to think the camera didn't focus properly until I took some time to play with it. It's pretty slow, but mine seems to work. When I touch the button, it will take anywhere from 1-5 seconds to focus, and then the cross-hair turns green and beeps to indicate focus lock. At first I didn't realize I needed to wait for the beep, so my shots were out of focus. Seems to work fine now that I know that.
I'm currently on stock 1.37.401.3 with camera 6.0 Build 31364 ... same as previous post, just a different ROM region, which I doubt makes a difference.
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Yep that's how it works and I don't seem to be having problems, just tried doind a few shots and it works perfectly.
Everytime I touch the center button the white square appears and the camera does the autofocus until it turns green. Then I change the orientation and do the same again. I just did it 6 times in a row and the autofocus worked perfectly all the times.

I had this problem with all my previous ROMs.. I am now on Bepe's 0.96 which has the latest camera app and the problem is no longer there - I can touch and press to activate the autofocus as many times as I want after shooting as many photos as I want. No problems now.

Huey85 said:
I had this problem with all my previous ROMs.. I am now on Bepe's 0.96 which has the latest camera app and the problem is no longer there - I can touch and press to activate the autofocus as many times as I want after shooting as many photos as I want. No problems now.
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Cool.. so it goes to show it's a pure firmware issue. I'm wondering perhaps it's due to registry tweakings that creates this problem.
Any more feedbacks?

Is there a difference in quality if it makes the focus on touch and picture on press versus focus and picture on press?

cannabis23 said:
Is there a difference in quality if it makes the focus on touch and picture on press versus focus and picture on press?
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No difference in quality, however with the "touch-then-press" focus you see a focused picture on the display before taking the shot.

Mask,
Can you tell me what is the camera app version in Bepe's 0.96 Rom?

I just changed the camera capture setting to "press" rather then "touch and press".
Now all I have to do is point at what i want. Then just press the button down and it does all the auto focussing itself and then takes the pic.
Couldn't be easier.

Roy_Drage said:
I just changed the camera capture setting to "press" rather then "touch and press".
Now all I have to do is point at what i want. Then just press the button down and it does all the auto focussing itself and then takes the pic.
Couldn't be easier.
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I actually prefer the 'touch and press' option, because I might end up needing to re-adjust my position before taking the shot.. and having the 'touch' to autofocus, before 'press' to shoot allows me to do so.
@MasK: I don't think it's a firmware issue or related to registry tweaks, but more a issue related to the camera app - bepe noted that it was a newer version (thus you won't see the Resolution icon in the Settings anymore - you can still change the resolution via Advanced settings). You could ask bepe more about the camera app and whether he did any tweaking in regards to the camera.

Huey85 said:
I actually prefer the 'touch and press' option, because I might end up needing to re-adjust my position before taking the shot.. and having the 'touch' to autofocus, before 'press' to shoot allows me to do so.
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Yeah I know what your saying, I tend to just point n click, let it auto-focus once clicked and take the pic. As long as I'm pointing at what I want and I'm as far zoomed in as I choose then it's fine. I'll take a load at a time and then just delete the unwanted ones later.
But none the less I think the general point is that everything should work!

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..But none the less I think the general point is that everything should work!
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Quite right. I do not see why HTC overlooked this problem. Seems to me that HTC rushed the release of the Diamond without going through more intense test phases.

Huey85 said:
Quite right. I do not see why HTC overlooked this problem. Seems to me that HTC rushed the release of the Diamond without going through more intense test phases.
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Completely agree, it's plain to see now that the phone was rushed. I know for a fact that if I hadn't found this site and wasn't able to flash the thing with new ROMS and applications etc then I probably wouldn't of bought it.
In effect this site is doing the work that HTC should of done in the 1st place. We shouldn't be finding ways around their problems by simply saying "oh doing it this way doesn't bother me". It would of been nice to have the thing working smoothly from release.
But then again this is half the fun right? Mucking around with new ROMs and apps to set it up how each individiual likes.
I know that I would feel sorry for anyone with a brand new HTC Touch Diamond that is still at factory settings!
The one I am running now pisses on the phone it was 2 weeks ago

Windows 6.1 camera driver...

Has any one found a compatible 6.1 camera driver? I have been searching and i cannot seem to find one.The Nadavi_HTC_Camera_5_0_4_2915_00 driver i had on 6.0 no longer works.

bucketz said:
Has any one found a compatible 6.1 camera driver? I have been searching and i cannot seem to find one.The Nadavi_HTC_Camera_5_0_4_2915_00 driver i had on 6.0 no longer works.
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What do you need a camera driver for?!

Isn't that driver part of the WM6.1 update?
Ta
Dave

it still seems a little slug-ish, especially when is little lighting. I do a lot of video, so i assumed the 6.1 update would have fixed it, but it still seems the same as before.

bucketz said:
it still seems a little slug-ish, especially when is little lighting. I do a lot of video, so i assumed the 6.1 update would have fixed it, but it still seems the same as before.
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The Kaiser camera is Very Bad in low light. I was embarrased by an N95 owner when filming my son playing at home.
The drivers made some improvment, but not enought IMO.
Dave

Well I heard that its not a driver issue but more of the CMOS that came with it... Correct me if im wrong (and I hope I am) as that's one of the main points why I bought this phone instead of an N95

I think there is a bug in the camera software meaning its pretty useless in low light. Anyway I came across a workaround that works ok for me. Switch cam on in in low light. Frames per second (FPS) will be pretty low at about 2 to 3 and everything will be blurry. Right hold hand in front of lense (with cam still on) so that everything is black. Switch off phone using power button (brief tap - don't power down completely). Wait a second and with hand still in front of the lense so it is completely covered press power button on again, wait a second or two then remove your hand and hey presto FPS will be about 18.
Try it out
Cheers
Barney

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I think there is a bug in the camera software meaning its pretty useless in low light. Anyway I came across a workaround that works ok for me. Switch cam on in in low light. Frames per second (FPS) will be pretty low at about 2 to 3 and everything will be blurry. Right hold hand in front of lense (with cam still on) so that everything is black. Switch off phone using power button (brief tap - don't power down completely). Wait a second and with hand still in front of the lense so it is completely covered press power button on again, wait a second or two then remove your hand and hey presto FPS will be about 18.
Try it out
Cheers
Barney
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lmao, what a fix!! that actually works. thx barney

Lol, I came across the fix in another post some time ago (can't take credit for it) - you would think that there would be a software fix for this! Guess HTC aren't interested - anyway enjoy
cheers
Barney

Barneyabz said:
I think there is a bug in the camera software meaning its pretty useless in low light. Anyway I came across a workaround that works ok for me. Switch cam on in in low light. Frames per second (FPS) will be pretty low at about 2 to 3 and everything will be blurry. Right hold hand in front of lense (with cam still on) so that everything is black. Switch off phone using power button (brief tap - don't power down completely). Wait a second and with hand still in front of the lense so it is completely covered press power button on again, wait a second or two then remove your hand and hey presto FPS will be about 18.
Try it out
Cheers
Barney
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yeah that's what i do now, but the brightness is much darker. i guess there isn't really any way to fix it, unless some one can create a whole new camera software & driver.

I'm beginning to think its cheap camera hardware, becuz I've read that the diamond has the same problem!

Just to add my opinion, I had the same problem with the phone being slow. I used a few different roms, I've been experimenting a lot over the past month.
In the end, I've reflashed Sleuth's rom. It's absolutely perfect, fast, stable, and best of all (and with reference to this thread).... the camera suffers no lag.
Thoroughly recommended.

camera software
not only kaiser but all HTC and HTC manufactured PPC have this camera issue. i have seen wizard, tytn,tytn2, tilt, touch etc all fail on camera. My old nokia 6600 vga camera takes better pics then wy wizard

There's a software fix, but it doesn't work perfectly with the camera software in the Tilt 6.1 upgrade(no preview). I'm using it with Schap's 4.31 WM6 rom and it does a wonderful job. Try it.
http://rapidshare.com/files/141688095/TyTNII_Photo_Quality.CAB.html
Try turning the flicker adjustment to 60 Hz. That'll (possibly)increase quality as well.

This is really really pissing me off...

Ok so I don't know how HTC can allow this type of thing to happen but the Kaiser is by far the worst phone I've used in terms of bugs.
The camera... oh the camera...
My secondary VGA camera takes a 5x clearer photo than the 3MP one.
The VGA camera has no lag or reduced fps in the viewer, yet the 3MP camera has horrible horrible lag when you press button and what seems like 3-5 fps.
This is all the same with the video...
Can somebody tell me what the ****?? Are you all having this problem also or is it just me?
Could it be my radio?
I'm using ROMeOS 4.21
Thanks... and HTC... eff you!
edit: forgot to mention I've tried editing the registry and changing the button to half press instead of full... nothing works.

I'm sorry, but this sort of thing has been discussed before.
Here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360001&highlight=Camera
Here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426101&highlight=Camera
And try searching for the Subject "Camera" in this Fourm. You'll find a few posts.
I am not going to spend another minute trolling on this issue.
Dave

Thanks Dave but I've really tried everything suggested in those thread already.
From changing the registry in HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera\Captparam
to installing HTC Album and Camera (with no improvements).
Also I don't see how the first link you posted is relevant at all.
This is why I come to think it is either a screw up in my registry or my radio?

I think the camera in general is bad, I though the first link was a different thread, sorry.
If you search for Threads with the title camera in Kaiser General you will see the scale of how many people have complained about this camera. I am not happy with mine, but I also own a EOS400D, so it's not too bad
Dave

lol I see fair enough... For me I was planning to use my phone camera as my primary camera.. I really just cannot believe the VGA camera can operate at a higher quality than the 3MP..
I honestly think there is a fault in my registry..
I'll say it again.. sometimes the camera works perfect and takes a picture instantly with no FPS lag in the viewer, but most of the time it will be extremely low FPS and after I press the shutter button it will lag for 3 seconds then capture a fuzzy ****ty image.

deXtrous said:
lol I see fair enough... For me I was planning to use my phone camera as my primary camera.. I really just cannot believe the VGA camera can operate at a higher quality than the 3MP..
I honestly think there is a fault in my registry..
I'll say it again.. sometimes the camera works perfect and takes a picture instantly with no FPS lag in the viewer, but most of the time it will be extremely low FPS and after I press the shutter button it will lag for 3 seconds then capture a fuzzy ****ty image.
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Do a Hard Reset and / or try another ROM, if you really think there is something in the registry corrupt / wrong.
Ta
Dave

DaveShaw said:
Do a Hard Reset and / or try another ROM, if you really think there is something in the registry corrupt / wrong.
Ta
Dave
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Might just do that, cheers.

deXtrous said:
lol I see fair enough... For me I was planning to use my phone camera as my primary camera..
[blah blah blah]
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You have got to be kidding.... It's convenient to have a decent camera built into the phone. But your primary camera? Ugh.

deXtrous said:
lol I see fair enough... For me I was planning to use my phone camera as my primary camera.. I really just cannot believe the VGA camera can operate at a higher quality than the 3MP..
I honestly think there is a fault in my registry..
I'll say it again.. sometimes the camera works perfect and takes a picture instantly with no FPS lag in the viewer, but most of the time it will be extremely low FPS and after I press the shutter button it will lag for 3 seconds then capture a fuzzy ****ty image.
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Have you noticed that the camera takes faster pics in lit areas and slower the darker it gets? This topic is fairly redundant. Click my Vegas link and you can see what the camera does.

Ok, so you're getting a fuzzy image, that will be due to movement when pressing the button.
To improve this slightly use the 3 second timer, that way you can line it up, press the button and hold the camera steady to get a more stable picture.
No, its not a fix for the poor hardware, but it helps a little.

Try removing the transparent cover from the rear casing - or just take pics without the rear casing. Pic quality improves no end....

deXtrous said:
Ok so I don't know how HTC can allow this type of thing to happen but the Kaiser is by far the worst phone I've used in terms of bugs.
The camera... oh the camera...
My secondary VGA camera takes a 5x clearer photo than the 3MP one.
The VGA camera has no lag or reduced fps in the viewer, yet the 3MP camera has horrible horrible lag when you press button and what seems like 3-5 fps.
This is all the same with the video...
Can somebody tell me what the ****?? Are you all having this problem also or is it just me?
Could it be my radio?
I'm using ROMeOS 4.21
Thanks... and HTC... eff you!
edit: forgot to mention I've tried editing the registry and changing the button to half press instead of full... nothing works.
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This has been discussed many times before...The camera is only usable in daylight. Even artificial light makes it really slow (bulbs) Here's why whenever you use the camera in other conditions than the daylight it switches itself into "Night Mode" and because of the lack of optimized 2D drivers the nightmode is terribly slow. Now... there's a small workaround....turn on the camera...if it's slow...press the button on the side the one that switches the screen off..press it again after about 10 seconds and you should have satisfying amount of frames in the camera app. Basically this trick forces the camera to turn off the night mode at least for a while. The only drawback is the quality of the pictures...they are darker. So if you disable the night mode through the registry you will have the camera without any lags.
Good luck

You think the Kaiser is the worst phone ever because it takes bad pictures. Wow. I think it is the best phone ever with an ok camera. I didn't buy the phone because of the camera.

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You think the Kaiser is the worst phone ever because it takes bad pictures. Wow. I think it is the best phone ever with an ok camera. I didn't buy the phone because of the camera.
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Not only the camera mate, and it's my personal opinion.
The phone itself is very buggy, crashes, not very responsive..
I thank got I found this forum or else my phone would be in the trash by now..
PS. Was your post even needed?

oh, oh, oh.
Please, deXtrous, a little humility. You joined last month and go around shouting at people already?
Perhaps your phone bugging out and crashing is a result of multiple registry edits, application installs, radio/spl/rom incompatibility etc. Not necessarily of putrid quality of the phone itself. Look around this forum: there are many MANY people who are either happy with their Kaisers, or have only minor gripes. This should mean that the phone is not inherently bad, just that - maybe- it is less than perfect... but then, what IS perfect?
Ever since I switched to ROMeOS (easily half a year) I haven't had a single hang-up or bug-out. Granted, I tend to use a tried-and-tested set of applications, but hey, there are about 40-50 of them! And my Kaiser still works nice and fast..... sans the camera which still sucks... but hey, it's just an effing camera. Useful in a phone but FAR from key.

deXtrous said:
Not only the camera mate, and it's my personal opinion.
The phone itself is very buggy, crashes, not very responsive..
I thank got I found this forum or else my phone would be in the trash by now..
PS. Was your post even needed?
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You're asking a guy who's defending a kaiser, in a kaiser forum, after you rubbish the kaiser, if he needed to post. I think you should chill for a bit..

OK, enough. No need to start laying into each other.
Can a Mod close this thread? Nothing constructive can come from this.
Ta
Dave

Ha... Sorry I find this kind of funny..
It's just a phone guys, no need to take offense to anything I say about a silly phone..
It's my personal experiences with the phone. Not everyone can be happy with the product they buy but why should the unhappy ones be shunned off by their counterparts for simply voicing their opinions?
Everyone has an opinion and view on things, no need to be offended of my opinion that the kaiser is a piece of crap with **** battery life, **** camera, flimsy buttons and crap hardware (IME).
anyway,
The camera was like this even prior to any ROM swapping or registry editing, which is why I thought a new ROM might help but apparently not.

Maybe you have a bad phone, I know I don't think mine is buggy and non reponsive. Also nothing I have on mine seems to be flimsy..
Bad phone maybe?