[Project]Fusion: Power User Customization|XDA Dev App Store - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development

Objective:
To be able to create a ROM on your phone from your favorite chef. Also you will be able to combine differnt packages from different chefs. So you like Chef A ROM but you like Chef B graphics you can combine the two as long as the Chefs break up their packages according to specs of app.
Also you will be able to browse, download and install apps from developers here at XDA, HTCPedia or any other website if they wish to place their Apps here.
Chefs, developers, and any modder can put up their own work on server and will be responsible for maintaining their work on App Store server. It is up to each modder to set price if any. PayPal system will be part of app.
Project Lead Time
V1 beta will be available after all bugs have been found and squashed.
How it will work:
User can create ROM and flash from phone. User can also browse App Store and select what programs, tweaks and themes to include in ROM or add to current ROM installed on phone.
Theoretical scenario
User wants to install new ROM on phone and does not like any of the custom stuff chefs put into ROM. What is user to do?
User downloads and installs Fusion Visual UC on either Windows Mobile Device.
User then runs Fusion Visual UC and selects all settings user prefers and applications. Through activesync Fusion Visual UC will install custom package on SD card of device and install latest Fusion Power ROM.
New ROM will be loaded on phone. At end of Windows Customization, Fusion Visual UC will take over, issue some prompts and then proceed to install all customized user settings.
At end of customization user's device will reboot and user will have totally customized Windows Mobile build as if user cooked the ROM themselves.
All flavors of Manila will be included to allow user to select what version they like to use.
More to come soon!
Funding
This project requires some funding which I can not do on my own, if I could I would so I am hoping to get some help from the community since it will be for everyone to use as end user or developer.
Costs will be:
Friend who is helping me with code. I already gave him my new TP2 as partial payment and would like to give him some payment as we get further a long. Anything is good...
Server equipment - Would like to keep server in house for the launch of App and for a few months after that. So I will need to purchase equipment for server.
Additional Phones - Would be nice to get a phone for myself for testing reasons and one for graphic designer. No big deal, can make do without but would make everything easier.
I am a student and do freelance IT work on the side. I filled up my schedule as much as I can for this week and next to earn some extra cash to carry the burden of cost. Only downside is it takes time away from App.
Thank you in advance if you contribute to this application.
Everyone who contributes will be set up with free exchange account. Also if developers want to charge for their apps I will try to cut a deal with them to allow donators to access their apps for free.
Developers have no charge to use this app nor are they required to share in their profits.

Developer Info
I will soon post instructions how to setup your packages to be recognized on server for App Store.
Things you can create:
ROMs - fully loaded or base ROM
Packages - All sorts of add-ons for your ROMs
Tweaks - any tweaks, can be CAB, Reg or XML file
Themes - create themes and share them on the App Store

Image Files
Images will be placed up here shortly.

Progress
15-09-09 01:19 AM
Cob webs have been cleared.
Flowchart and App design layout all complete.
First line of code is about to be laid out...
21-09-09 18:13
Busy weekend coding away. The base of the ROM creation tool and app store have been laid. Format for developers to place their stuff on server has been finalized. Will not take much work from developer to place their work on server and in App Store.
If any developer (Chef, app developer or modder) would like to get a head start on getting their packages ready feel free to PM me. Once I am 100% sure that the current format for developers is the one we are going with then I will publish instructions.
This will work on any WinMo device but the first device to be fully supported will be the HTC Touch Pro2.

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Wow does this mean a lot of late nights with Red bull?
SOUNDS AWESOME!!!

I am so there. Count me in dude. Welcome back!

HeavyComponent said:
Wow does this mean a lot of late nights with Red bull?
SOUNDS AWESOME!!!
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Many many many nights and lots of Airzona Green Tea...my fav drink

You can pull it off A. I know you can. We will all be waiting. Take your time so you don't have to stress yourself after release on people complaining about issues.

HeavyComponent said:
You can pull it off A. I know you can. We will all be waiting. Take your time so you don't have to stress yourself after release on people complaining about issues.
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Like there is any question I can not pull it off..
I am teasing...I am not that cocky...just that confident

Hey welcome back At0m. Glad to see you back in action. Pretty interesting concept. So you are making Chefs out of us huh!!
Looking forward...

VizagDude said:
Hey welcome back At0m. Glad to see you back in action. Pretty interesting concept. So you are making Chefs out of us huh!!
Looking forward...
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I will be providing a tool for total customization. Isn't that what we are all here for? To make our high end devices look and run how we like?

At0mAng said:
I will be providing a tool for total customization. Isn't that what we are all here for? To make our high end devices look and run how we like?
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one rom and user can customize it them self's I think maybe I am dreaming

cobbs said:
one rom and user can customize it them self's I think maybe I am dreaming
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Your dreams are my nightmares
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Updates can be found in Post #3

So.. is this going to be an application that installs app cabs over a base ROM... or a kitchen type setup that recooks a base ROM with the user's preferences ?

Welcome back
Glad to see you back here not because of your fusion or future room but as a friend. we may not know each other but i think, you are still among the elite people that devoted your own time for all the xda community.
WELCOME ....

NRGZ28 said:
So.. is this going to be an application that installs app cabs over a base ROM... or a kitchen type setup that recooks a base ROM with the user's preferences ?
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A crappy chef never shares his secrets or plans for fear they may be stolen.
Fool me once shame on you...fool me twice shame on me.
I think it is best we do not cross paths.

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PLEASE VOTE! Lite version of different ROMS - what to include?

As the number of custom ROMS is growing here and some cooks are providing full/lite/meduim versions I just wanted to get an overview on what to include in a light ROM. So, please give tips on for making the best lite ROM xperiance as possible
If you are missing an option, please post it...maybe we can collect it here afterwards...
Thanks to this great community!
Total Commander, Modaco NoData, ClearTemp
derliebewolf said:
So, please give tips on for making the best lite ROM xperiance as possible !
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Trust me. Just like any other rom, "best" rom won't exist for everyone as there are always people prefer this and that.
I normally go for the "take it or leave it" approach.
Hey vibranze, you got an X1 too? Long time no chat since we move on w/ the P525. Are you going to start cooking too?
this is very useful but its missing so many things the many consider should be part of even a lite rom
some examples include: video player,youtube, sdk certificates, launchers, regediter, extention to explorer
please people vote, this will help the chefs a lot
Voted, according to the preferences of nX1i Lite rom
jackleung said:
Trust me. Just like any other rom, "best" rom won't exist for everyone as there are always people prefer this and that.
I normally go for the "take it or leave it" approach.
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i think that very true for full or even medium ROMs but lite ones?!!! not so sure about that
Jack, I totally agree. my intention is not to please anyone...I rather wanted to see what the majority is thinking...as some sort of backing for a choice... thanks to all for participating!
Would it be nice to have a lite ROM that has no commercial software on it? so that some user can have the choice to install what they trully need...something that would match the personality of each user? because in case somebody want any kind of application...surely they will install it...
So probably an ideal lite ROM would be just a cleaned and optimized Basic ROM with PIM Back-up...Advanced Config...(something like that)
IMO: No panels not even panel manager. Everything should come with PIM back up and probly Jbed Java, not that Jblend nonsense.
Is there anyway that stuff cooked into a ROM can be made to appear on the 'Remove programs' list? Im sure I read somewhere that this increases ROM size.
I guess also connection setup would be a must
Only PanelManager but without additional panels
yeah, pimbackup, total commander and cjk capability is a must for me even in the lite rom
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Intersting result (up to now):
1) office Mobile (51%)
2) Connection Setup and Opera Mobile (both 48%)
3) Java and HTC taskmanager (both 44%)
i can understand the first both...but Java? OK guy, please continue voting!!!
Thanks for all the votes up to now.
Everyone has his/her own favor. some one like full,some one like lite.some one like tf3d,some one like Today.
I don't think anyone could make all of the users happy.
stellaryt said:
Everyone has his/her own favor. some one like full,some one like lite.some one like tf3d,some one like Today.
I don't think anyone could make all of the users happy.
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PLEASE VOTE! Lite version of different ROMS - what to include? thread is about lite version...
different people have different tastes,will choose different food.
I think some more votes will come here soon...

[DEBATE] this forum, cooked roms, chefs and donations...

guys,
please read the text below and let me know what you think about it...
although people try to mask the situation by giving it good names the truth is that this is happening and something has to be done before things get worse.
some folks are using this forum to sell what they call 'their' products. they get these ROMs, they make changes to it by adding or removing software. then they publish it as if they are 'sharing' their 'work' but, strangely, they do it in a very commercial way by naming their 'work' with appealing words to get attention.
when these ROMs go published, they often take a few first posts of the thread as they have a lot of information to add..... and screenshots to publish..... and donations to 'suggest'...... and donors' names to publish.
sometimes it will happen that a few folks who are trying these home cooked ROMs with applications that are less likely to be used by most people will end up having serious problems that eventually will get fixed by the 'chef' .... on a new version.
the principle of sharing a piece of work entirely made by yourself is that it cannot be asked anything in exchange otherwise, even if slightly suggested, it's nothing but a sale and by getting copyrighted software, making changes to it, 'sharing' and suggesting donations from the testers, well.... i'm pretty sure this isn't completely nice.... and either legal.
although i never really bothered to look into these roms to see what's really inside them (even flashing them on my phones sometimes) i decided to do it earlier this week. the funny thing you see when you dump these roms. they are not being shared with other folks, they are being sold, and they should not be touched.
another interesting thing is that if you look into the other subforums carefully you'll see that the same chefs often publish roms for more than one handset which gets me thinking two things: 1) do they really have all these handsets they publish ROMs for? 2) if so, are these roms really tested before they go online?
i don't want to be seen as a troublemaker cause it seems that these folks have made a living out of this cooked rom thing and they appear to have gotten themselves a pretty nice bunch of fans too. however, what i want with this thread is to raise a debate and the reason is that i really like this forum and i'm concerned about something that is happening and i completely disagree.
So what is your main concern?
That the chefs would like to have donations?
Or that someone takes a pile of code and alters it not according to the original programmer?
abe
big people talk about idea..
small people talk about other people..
You have a point with "selling someone else's code, slightly altered and selling it as your own", but I think the ROM cookers only like donations for the work they do tuning the original roms and most of the time adding functionality to the device. A lot of the "better known" chefs have gathered testers around them, so most of the bugs are gone before a release.
What exactly is the debate? Where are the facts/proof that this is occuring? you cant make such a statement without backing it up with some evidence.
I know some chefs actually put ALOT of time and effort into cooking a rom, testing it and informing the community about any errors found.
I've cooked a Rom or two myself and am working on a driver set for MSM devices. It takes ALOT of my time to do so and it's not only for my own benefit. Thank God there are people out there who help me with that. (you know who you are, if you're reading this)
I'm not saying that it's right to pass your ROMs off as your own, but I do know some chefs are better in making the devices perform alot better than HTC's programmers do. And if people want to reward them for their time and effort through donations, who am I to question that?
On the other hand, I find the "lack" of community more disturbing. Some people aren't sharing their knowledge for the common good, but for getting credited or donations. I believe that's the discussion here.
Just my 2 cents.
Well, I think that if they "invest" lot of their time (and they do), it is ok to have donation button. Nobody if forceing you to pay for rom. If you like it you can donate. Fair deal if you ask me!
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guys,
the funny thing you see when you dump these roms. they are not being shared with other folks, they are being sold, and they should not be touched.
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This part I don't like. I think that they shouldn't do that, because in that case, like you said, roms are in some way being sold. That is not in the spirit of xda.
I think what he may be referring to is some members that take the ROM's from a known cook and post it with screenshots in other forums and other language forums with potential to gain off someone else work. I know of 1 instance where a Link to a ROM for only a beta test ended up with more than 500 downloads when intended for less than 10. It was found posted around in different forums.
To reward someone for there hard work in customization is up to the community. I think most people know the ROM's are not the property of the cooks, but just the cooks work in rearranging, adding, deleting, and customizing. I for one can tell you the amount of donations most cooks receive is very small and in most cases would barely cover a unlimited account for downloads. I myself think of it as I'm cooking for myself and if other people like then that's ok too.
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If I use HTC mobiles is because the cooked roms...
Iosu
NeoS2007 said:
On the other hand, I find the "lack" of community more disturbing. Some people aren't sharing their knowledge for the common good, but for getting credited or donations. I believe that's the discussion here.
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For me the first thing to do in order to solve this "problem" is to prohibit any "protected" ROM. I think its not fair to take official ressources, work with tools, which can be found in this forums, and then "protect" the ROM, claiming that its your own choice.
I don't think that this is the right way to go, as other (new) cookers could learn a lot from these ROMs.
But, I don't think that this is the "problem" that SlakerBoi is talking about, is it?
As these discussions tend to come and go every now and then ...
Indeed it costs a huge amount of time in the first place. And a lot of users appreciate the work all cooks are doing overhere. Besides the cooking giving people advise. I can tell you that most cooks share their knowledge. Not always visible to everyone but most of them have contact and help each other. Furthermore, is offering your rom for dumping without any guidance the best way to share?
Everyone that asks for a package, help or guidance in any way is supported in the cooking thread. Some did publish a very nice rom after some time. In my opinion it is a far better contribution then offering an open rom without any support.
The reason I cook my own roms the way I do is for speed purpose. If you have another opinion that is fine with me. But tolerate each other on having a different approach. These kind of statements in threads only give xda a bad vibe. Open your mind, when you want or need something ask for it. It's not supposed to be a tv diner anyway.
I quote you , my friend!
Well this is how it goes for a long time. I think if you don't like it, go somehwere else.
What will you get from debating??
SlakerBoi my first question for you is "have you every cooked a ROM?" i am sure your answer will be "No" because i know how much time n effords need to be put. When i cooked my first rom it took me 4 sleepless night to build a basic beta quality rom. After such a hard work someone reward you by donating. That feeling can't be said in words SlakerBoi. So please stop raising this type of question.
One more thing most of the ROM developers buy new phone with the donations they go so it's not a issue if they release rom for many devices.
Please don't continue this decisions so that this post will go to some corner.
MOD this post hurts lot of ppl feeling so please delete it.
before the flame wars starts
i am going to close this....as these questions will cause fighting.
if you have a problem with someone...contact them....don't post like this
you know this is only going to end in fighting.
thread closed.
As a chef, and a moderator (chef came first), I'll add my thoughts.
I started into cooking when AT&T released their official WM6.1 ROM for the Kaiser. I always liked the design of AT&T ROMs, but not all of the bloat they included... most of which could not be uninstalled. I had the very "simple" goal of removing the bloat in an attempt to speed up the ROM, and increase storage space.
Once I downloaded the ROM, and extracted it using KaiserKitchen, I immediately realized that I was in over my head. I am a very good with PC and Mac computers in the professional/personal world, but I had never looked at the contents of a decompiled WM ROM. There are hundreds of folders, 10,000+ files, and no real explanation of what you're looking at... that is where XDA-Developers came in.
Within 1 week of public release, I was ready with a ROM that could be considered "extreme beta". It worked, and it was fast, but it had quite a few glitches that could not have been discovered without a public release, and a few dozen people testing the ROM. One thing in the background, that is never seen, is the number of hours spent just flashing our phones (I am NOT counting the cooking process) with numerous revisions testing all the bugs/issues reported. My Tilt was flashed no less then 1000 times in it's life, and my Fuze has been through over 500 so far.
I consider myself to be a pretty good ROM chef. But I also know that I am far from the best, and that most of my knowledge came from the very large XDA-Developers community. Some ROM chefs do not share information about the inner workings of their ROM in the ROM thread itself, but a simple email/PM will usually get you the information you seek. Look at it this way: If someone uses a ROM as released, and has no desire to modify it, then why should the thread be clogged with hundreds of questions/answers relating to how this was done, or how that was done.
My ROMs are "protected" using RaphaelKitchen, but it wasn't always this way. It has been shown that merging the RGU/DSM files into one large file speeds up the ROM because you now have several hundred less files sitting on the device. In addition, I also release my kitchen, in it's complete form, when I release a new ROM version. People are free to download the kitchen, extract it to their computer, and fully customize my ROMs. I know this is a popular route, because my Fuze and Touch Pro kitchens have been downloaded over 100 times since v4.7 of my ROM came out last month.
On to donations... I have a donation link in my signature for people who wish to appreciate the amount of work/hours poured into creating custom WM ROMs. Just as my signature says, I never require monetary compensation, but I also accept whatever people give, because it allows me to improve my work. For example, I purchased WinCE CAB Creator with some of my donations, so that I could create CAB files of items removed from the ROM. I also maintain a Rapidshare Premium account so that I never have to delete any file uploaded to XDA. Another form of donation I received was web hosting on a fast server that provided an alternative to Rapidshare.
I've said all of this before, but it's been awhile, and I cannot find the post. In closing, I don't see anything wrong with the items you pointed out. We've had issues in the past with members who used donations as a way to obtain a piece of software (ROM or otherwise), and as soon as it was brought to our attention, it was dealt with.

Incomplete ROMS, are you serious?!

So I was trying to help my little brother get a custom ROM from XDA so he can enjoy his Wing. Well, ends up half of the chefs out there create roms without important features. For example, no MMS. Ok, so maybe you can get away with that since you can download Arcsoft and install it afterwards. However, question remains, why don't the chefs include Arcsoft already in their roms like they used to on XDA with the MDA, etc?!
So fine, no MMS, install it later. How about required functions? For example NO CAMERA SOFTWARE!?!? Are you serious chefs? I mean I know you take out things like ringtones, carrier bloat, etc, but CAMERA?! Now, the MDA, when a chef took out the camera it was because THEY WERE REPLACING IT WITH A BETTER CAMERA SOFTWARE.
What gives XDA?! I am noticing this in other ROM threads for other phones. Even some of the latest phones have this issue too. Rhodium roms missing landscape mode?! It's a Rhodium, it has both landscape and portrait!
Either way, so fine, you want to make these roms available to the public. No problem. Ever think about creating a TEST ROMS section INSIDE OF XDA ROMS?!
So another example. One section for "INCOMPLETE BETA SUPER TEST ROMS" and another for "The phone should still be able to use all hardware on it with this ROM" section. How about that for a little more clarity?!
I can't beleive what's happened to beloved XDA. Shame. Big shame.
Weeeeelllllll......not to sound super preachy....but you do realize that you are getting all of this FOR FREE right? Most of the time the reason that commericial programs aren't cooked into ROMs is because they are just that, commercial. AFAIK we could get in MUCH more trouble if we included a bunch of commercial stuff in them. I know that the Wizard has TONs of ROMs with built in stuff that is commercial, I used to be a cook over there, and in my opinion the reason for that is because there is so much crap in that forum that the mods and such arent going to look at every ROM for illegal crap, whereas in this much smaller forum here for the Herald we have fewer members and fewer ROMs but I think like 2 or 3 mods, so they have less to look at and more time to do it.
Long post short, you get this stuff for free...at the most what cooks ask for is a donation, ROMs as they are no matter what are technically illegal piecs of software, and at any time if Microsoft REALLY wanted to they could have XDA shut down without another word..so basically, if you don't like it-cook your own ROM with what you want already in it or stop complaining!
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Every people cooking ROMs tries to cook the way the most useful for his/her device, and test some apps or abilities from the ROM.
And as you've read, they share their ROMs "for free" so that you can enter here, search, and download the ROM you want, flash it and play with it.
Nobody sells anything. There's no agreement to sign. There's no compromise except the wish to make things well - to every chef's taste.
You don't like this chef, this cook, this dish, then you are free to change restaurant. People is here to discover, develop, and share ideas. If you like stock ROMs with all the features, then get one of them.
The best you can do is to write a factually comment into the thread, where you have downloaded the ROM. This is the right way, to get an answer. But don´t insult the cookers. Here are kitchens presented, so that you can make it better for your own, if you want.
chillax
MMS is a carrier specific issue. Roms atleast for this fone aren't carrier specific... Yea this stuff is free and you'll have to use a little elbow grease to get it workin in the way u want. If you want a specific app cooked into your rom be it commercial or not cook it in yourself, just be careful of rammifications if you share your rom with the public. Kitchens are not rocket science, just grab on and slam into it head first
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Weeeeelllllll......not to sound super preachy....but you do realize that you are getting all of this FOR FREE right? Most of the time the reason that commericial programs aren't cooked into ROMs is because they are just that, commercial. AFAIK we could get in MUCH more trouble if we included a bunch of commercial stuff in them. I know that the Wizard has TONs of ROMs with built in stuff that is commercial, I used to be a cook over there, and in my opinion the reason for that is because there is so much crap in that forum that the mods and such arent going to look at every ROM for illegal crap, whereas in this much smaller forum here for the Herald we have fewer members and fewer ROMs but I think like 2 or 3 mods, so they have less to look at and more time to do it.
Long post short, you get this stuff for free...at the most what cooks ask for is a donation, ROMs as they are no matter what are technically illegal piecs of software, and at any time if Microsoft REALLY wanted to they could have XDA shut down without another word..so basically, if you don't like it-cook your own ROM with what you want already in it or stop complaining!
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I understand, trust me. I don't think you are preaching. In the days when I first got my Wizard (MDA) the roms did not require much addition of software. You could choose a rom and the chef would do more work in letting you know about the rom. ie: Missing this, missing that, has this, has that...etc. I came across two ROMs in particular that did not mention such things to me and was shocked about it.
After further reading the posts in the ROM Chef's thread, I discovered that the chef did not care that the needed app was not working and had asked all users to just download an older build of the ROM instead of trying to get a functional ROM shared.
Now I understand that apparently XDA came under great legal threat from several companies about their roms/software being released here for free(whether or not it left the phones without critical functions). For this reason, to remain alive, XDA had to comply by these rules and just let the chefs make the ROM itself and anyone willing to put up with not having a phone or camera or keyboard or touchscreen working on their phone would test the ROMs out and figure out how to get critical functions back by themselves because it would destroy XDA if the ROMs had this software included.
Back then it was considered hard work simply downloading/burning a ROM that a Chef made, but these days you even have to install the basic function apps yourself if you want to participate. Hopefully it doesn't get much worse than that. I really want my Touch Pro 2 to have an XDA ROM running on it in the near future with WM 6.5 and enjoy butter smooth, reliable operation.
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You don't like this chef, this cook, this dish, then you are free to change restaurant. People is here to discover, develop, and share ideas. If you like stock ROMs with all the features, then get one of them.
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MarketPlace For Skins & Themes: Categories & Sections To Include?

We have been running WMSkins Gallery, with an aim to bring all the skins & themes for Windows mobiles to one central location. Now we are creating a platform based on WMSkins Gallery which will be a marketplace for all the skins & themes for Windows Mobiles & Android.
Designers over here go a great job & provide our devices a new look but they are not given full credit. We would like that designers get there share of advantage for their hard work. So, we will provide all the designers a medium where they can share their work either for free or paid.
We would like to know your thoughts about it?
We are also looking for name recommendations for the new gallery, So Please suggest.
UPDATE: Here's a preview, its just a design mockup. We are working on functionality.
Regards,
WMSkins Team.
Yes, That would be a great idea!
it is good to have something, however, lately I am making themes and wallpapers for S2U2 which I post here. I see them back on your site, no problem at all, but I think it is not more than polite to add the original author's name on it. I see now several themes, clocks and wallpapers which I photoshopped together ;-) and at some of them the poster (a guy from India) did not mentioned the author. And when you are really going to SELL my themes I want my share, all original PSD files are in my computer, I really do not want you to sell something and make profit using my work without notifying.
You took the themes and skins from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354111&page=714
I made this because I think it is fun and to do something back for this great community, I did not expect to see them on other sites without referring to the author (the one with the green lamborghini on wmskins for example)
Cheers,
Arnold
PollPixx said:
it is good to have something, however, lately I am making themes and wallpapers for S2U2 which I post here. I see them back on your site, no problem at all, but I think it is not more than polite to add the original author's name on it. I see now several themes, clocks and wallpapers which I photoshopped together ;-) and at some of them the poster (a guy from India) did not mentioned the author. And when you are really going to SELL my themes I want my share, all original PSD files are in my computer, I really do not want you to sell something and make profit using my work without notifying.
You took the themes and skins from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354111&page=714
I made this because I think it is fun and to do something back for this great community, I did not expect to see them on other sites without referring to the author (the one with the green lamborghini on wmskins for example)
Cheers,
Arnold
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Hi Arnold,
We at our site respect the original authors & mention their name on the upload which you'll find under each image when you open it up, scroll down to the page for more information & you'll find authors name being mentioned there. What we mention below thumbnails are the uploaders name.
And on our new project we let original authors upload their work, set the price & get paid. We'll not be selling others work.
Hope you like the project,
WMSkins Team.
I would be great to have more of the themes in a centralized place, however charging for themes could be very difficult considering how many talented developers are just giving them away. Those who do make the themes deserve to get their do credit. I am in support of a "theme gallery", but not paying for something we are already getting for free or by donating.
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I would be great to have more of the themes in a centralized place, however charging for themes could be very difficult considering how many talented developers are just giving them away. Those who do make the themes deserve to get their do credit. I am in support of a "theme gallery", but not paying for something we are already getting for free or by donating.
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Hi Irishpride,
Our current Gallery is short of many features. We are developing a whole new interface to it & added funtionality. We'll let designers choose whether they want to provide their work for free or for a charge. Therefore, there'll be both free & paid themes in the gallery. If a designer is paid for his work, he'll be more interested in providing more skins & themes, therefore user will get more & more awesome look on the device. Its good for both designers & users.
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Hi Arnold,
We at our site respect the original authors & mention their name on the upload which you'll find under each image when you open it up, scroll down to the page for more information & you'll find authors name being mentioned there. What we mention below thumbnails are the uploaders name.
And on our new project we let original authors upload their work, set the price & get paid. We'll not be selling others work.
Hope you like the project,
WMSkins Team.
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Well, good to hear that you respect that, I assume you and another one are having this site. So, take a look at this: http://www.wmskins.com/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=19&pos=1
My name is not there. Maybe it is an idea to let the people who post our work to force them to admit something in the field where to put the original authors name. That way, you don't have to check it, and you don't get any mail regarding to his from disappointed authors. (just an idea)
Further on I think to get a lot on one place is good, and as long as the free downloads are better than the ones you have to pay for, your visitors are happy too ;-)
Cheers,
Arnold
PollPixx said:
Well, good to hear that you respect that, I assume you and another one are having this site. So, take a look at this: http://www.wmskins.com/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=19&pos=1
My name is not there. Maybe it is an idea to let the people who post our work to force them to admit something in the field where to put the original authors name. That way, you don't have to check it, and you don't get any mail regarding to his from disappointed authors. (just an idea)
Further on I think to get a lot on one place is good, and as long as the free downloads are better than the ones you have to pay for, your visitors are happy too ;-)
Cheers,
Arnold
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We are sorry that your name is not mentioned there, We may not have got it otherwise we would have added it there. Anyways we are working on the new interface which will improve it.
To be honest, I don't like the site as it is now.
You don't even provide a link to the original thread, which is really the least that is expected. But even then I don't think it's good to mirror the files without asking for permission, especially as you force users to register before they can download anything .
mushipkw said:
We are sorry that your name is not mentioned there, We may not have got it otherwise we would have added it there. Anyways we are working on the new interface which will improve it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354111&page=713
post 7126, it's really not that difficult to find the author
This guy from India posted more of my recent work on your site (without letting me know), ashame he missed my Guinness theme
Cheers,
Arnold
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To be honest, I don't like the site as it is now.
You don't even provide a link to the original thread, which is really the least that is expected. But even then I don't think it's good to mirror the files without asking for permission, especially as you force users to register before they can download anything .
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We do have input for Source URL when you upload the file. But we have not enabled it to show to the user as we are planning to develop new interface. You'll get this & much more features in the new version.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354111&page=713
post 7126, it's really not that difficult to find the author
This guy from India posted more of my recent work on your site (without letting me know), ashame he missed my Guinness theme
Cheers,
Arnold
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Dear Arnold,
We welcome you to upload your work to gallery, we'll be more than happy if you upload your work yourself. And when there's new version we'll be honoured to have you there too.
But it's not about anything you're planning in the future - it's about now. I think it's reasonable that I expect you to link to the sources and take the files down or make them available for all users.
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But it's not about anything you're planning in the future - it's about now. I think it's reasonable that I expect you to link to the sources and take the files down or make them available for all users.
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Dear Livven,
We have started this thread to announce our new project, I know we have shortcomings in current version which we'll improve in the next version.
We are also looking for Name Recommendations for the new gallery. Please Suggest.
Preview of the Marketplace added in the first post.
My work is already uploaded to your site, but if you are going to use it for the Marketplace we will have to discuss it.
I don't think many people will pay for a skin.
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My work is already uploaded to your site, but if you are going to use it for the Marketplace we will have to discuss it..
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Dear ElCondor,
You can upload you work yourself on the marketplace & set the price. When people buy the work you'll get the amount.
[ElCondor] said:
I don't think many people will pay for a skin.
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Currently there is no site like this for Windows Mobile & Android. Everyone knows that WM doen't come with a good looking interface, so we think people may be willing to shell a little extra to get a new look for the device. Moreover if the designers get benefit for their work they will providing more great looking themes.
Sure I would be more productive if I would get paid.
I am 16 years old so I have not much money; getting paid for it would be great.
Just tell me when you've finished it!
Well, as long as you don't upload the work of others and then make people pay for it, I'm fine. Also, I don't see you're actively "improving the shortcomings in the current version"...

Elite ROM Summer 2011 Release (Links and Information UPDATED 8/10/2012)

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Dear Members,
In a world rapidly dominated by the horrors of PPCGeeks, Windows Mobile 6.5, "Windows Mobile 7", and Apple Operating System, the need increasingly arises for the community to have a useful solution to all its ROM needs. I believe the answer to the world's problems (at least on HTC Diamond, anyway) can be found in this thread with a custom ROM I built from the ground up in a modified version of Caulkin's Kitchen called "Elite", which couples Windows Mobile 6.1 with excellent performance, eye candy, goodies, and vast amounts of free space - not to mention low battery consumption.
Unlike many other ROMs, I do not post the full description and screenshots in the first post of the thread because this "clogs" the forum up and makes quoting posts annoying. To remedy this, I've created a small informational sheet separately with all the details and screenshots you could ever want to see; the download link to the ROM itself is located inside of that.
Up until now, this ROM has been cooked with the Sprint carrier options cooked in, but in the new release that is NOW AVAILABLE, the ROM will be carrier universal! This means that it can be used on all the CDMA carriers' Diamonds (not as sure about the Verizon Diamond, I've heard it is a slightly different beast as far as hardware is concerned). If you need to do "over the air activation" with Sprint or Boost, you'll need to find the CAB to do so separately (you'll also want to hard reset your device, as installing it will make the phone unusably sluggish).
A special thanks to all the support from the community for helping make this Epic ROM what it is today. Your questions and comments are welcomed in the thread.
Thanks for visiting.
- 2 Bunny
Are you still supporting this ROM?
Would you be willing to remove some items for me?
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MrShoe said:
Are you still supporting this ROM?
Would you be willing to remove some items for me?
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Hello Mr. Shoe, I am Member2013 officially taking over the Elite project on the Diamond. There are no further updates that will be made to it as it has reached its Zenith (or got as close as possible with the time that we could afford in development) and I now just work as carefully as possible to keep the download links up to date, but feel free to let me know now if you have any questions.
Thanks for downloading Elite. The Diamond is a timeless phone that continues to be a significant piece of HTC's history even into 2013.
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Member2013 said:
Hello Mr. Shoe, I am Member2013 officially taking over the Elite project on the Diamond. There are no further updates that will be made to it as it has reached its Zenith (or got as close as possible with the time that we could afford in development) and I now just work as carefully as possible to keep the download links up to date, but feel free to let me know now if you have any questions.
Thanks for downloading Elite. The Diamond is a timeless phone that continues to be a significant piece of HTC's history even into 2013.
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How are you keeping the download links up to date when you are not the OP?

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