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questions on nandroid and new sdcard...

ok so im on the latest JF rom with appstosd. everything is working great and i'm actually on the stock sd card partioned obviously. I was wondering, if I buy a bigger SD card and partion it, how would i go about making this new sd card exactly like the old sd card? would I make a nandroid backup of the old sdcard and then restore it on the new sdcard? could someone help me with this? is there extra steps i need to take to make the new sdcard just like the old one?
Thanks,
Boricua_Ace

Please try and search before posting a new thread. We all had to read way more than we wanted to figure this stuff out, there's no reason you shouldn't either.
To answer your question.
NANDroid doesn't touch your sdcard except to place the backup of your phone on it. You'll need a linux machine or adb to do what you want. If you're using linux it should be self explanatory. If you're using adb, try this:
adb pull /system/sd/app app
adb pull /system/sd/app-private app-private
reformat your new card using whatever method you used for the stock card.
adb /push app /system/sd/app
adb /push app-private /system/sd/app-private

i did search for what i was looking for specifically but need not come back with good results. thanks for the info! and i do not have a linux machine so i will be using adb which i have.

after i do those steps, do i then restore a backup from nandroid on the phone? i would also have to use apps2sd app again correct? and do i also moved everything from the Fat32 to the new sd card?

If all you're doing is replacing the sdcard and not wiping your phone (alt-w), then those are the only steps you'll have to take.
Considering all of the hybrid ways to get apps2sd i can see how this could be confusing. I'd suggest using just the sdsplit script to repartion/format your card since you probably used marcusmaximus's app to do it all initially.
Oh, and yes, you'll need to copy the stuff off of your fat32 and move them to a tempory folder on your pc too. Just copy it all back manually once it's repartitioned.

great thanks! i actually used partion manager to partion the old card. So i'll do it that way again. works for me. just wanted to make sure i dont miss any steps. i will not be wiping the phone. i'll also have to adb the dalvik-cache since i do have that on the old card correct?

No point in moving dalvik-cache since it will recreate itself anyway.
Just make sure, if you're using unionfs instead of symlinks, that you create the /system/sd/dalvik-cache directory before you reboot your phone.

thanks for all your help and patience in answering my questions. really appreciate it.

last question, im using the old appstosd app not appstosd 2 app. i believe this app uses symlinks correct?

boricuaace said:
last question, im using the old appstosd app not appstosd 2 app. i believe this app uses symlinks correct?
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Unfortunately, I don't remember. I think that's correct, but you'd have to read through that thread to be sure.
I don't think symlinks are that picky and creating the /system/sd/dalvik-cache directory before you boot the phone with the new card will work in either case.
Someone should correct me if I'm wrong.

great, thanks again!

no problem. Good luck.

Easier way to partition SD with CM 4.0.2?

Hey im currently using Cyanogen's mod 4.0.2 on my original 1gb sd card, i know the apps2sd is automatically built in to the rom, however is there an easier way to create the partition on the sd card without all the commands and such? im still a noob to any help is appreciated..thanks

rschuman90 said:
Hey im currently using Cyanogen's mod 4.0.2 on my original 1gb sd card, i know the apps2sd is automatically built in to the rom, however is there an easier way to create the partition on the sd card without all the commands and such? im still a noob to any help is appreciated..thanks
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Install Ubuntu and use Gparted
There's a script called SDsplit

there's also a script to partitoin that 51dusty made. Or you can stop being lazy and just type them it. It takes no more than 5min to do.

Or you can flash JF 1.51 adp because it doesn't use the sd so you're safe to partion the sd card and use partted in recovery. JAC has the directions on his Jacxhero ROM page. Thats what i use. Works everytime.

rschuman90 said:
Hey im currently using Cyanogen's mod 4.0.2 on my original 1gb sd card, i know the apps2sd is automatically built in to the rom, however is there an easier way to create the partition on the sd card without all the commands and such? im still a noob to any help is appreciated..thanks
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Before I started using "parted" I used apps2sd 2 (in the market).
The trick is to make sure you don't let it run the actual apps2sd but only use it to create the partition.
CM's does it better (and you might break something!!!).
If you don't have a ext partition and run apps2sd 2 it lets you create one.
Don't make the partition more than 500mb-530mb.
By the way, it only makes an ext2 partition so if you want ext3 go to console and and upgrade_fs.

Dusty's method in parted is much better!
This is just what I did before I stopped being lazy.

ThR1LL said:
there's also a script to partitoin that 51dusty made. Or you can stop being lazy and just type them it. It takes no more than 5min to do.
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It's called SDsplit

AdrianK said:
It's called SDsplit
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The one I'm talking about is called sdparted found here

the script provides 3 partitions... you may not need the swapper. try to make it manually, its easy!!!

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It's called SDsplit
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do u have to have adb though if you did dustys method WITHOUT a computer?

app2sd workin on telus milestone

wow i got app2sd working on my telus milestone make sure that busybox is not installed on the system i mean when u use adb to install not busybox itself (from titanium etc) if the method does not work unroot then root the try it will work.
i did not create this i have just copied and pasted it i know alot of people need this so here
. App2SD Version 2 (http://www.mediafire.com/?emhyw4tmkmh)
This revised version of App2SD is more refine. It moves cache as well as apps to MicroSD.
Steps to prepare for installation:
1. Unzip the downloaded file and you should see a folder "APP2SD Package".
2. Rename "APP2SD Package" folder to "app2sd" and move this folder to MicroSD. (place it in the root: MicroSD card/)
Next, simply connect the Milestone to your computer.
Ensure it is "Charge Only" for USB connection and USB Debugging mode for USB is turned on under Settings > Applications > Development.
Once you have the above checked, go ahead to launch a command prompt and perform the following:
Type: cd/ (to get to the root of your C: drive)
Type: cd /android/tools (to get to the folder of the Android SDK which i mentioned earlier)
Type: adb devices (you should see your Milestone serial number showing up. If you do not see serial number, it means there is no connection to your Milestone)
Type: adb shell
Type: su (make sure you do not see a prompt window on your Milestone. If you do, grant permission for it to access)
Type: cd /sdcard/app2sd
Type: sh install_use_busybox.sh (trigger installation of App2SD)
Type: y (to confirm that you want to install)
wait for the prompt to show you that App2SD is complete and a reboot is needed for it to take effect.
Type: y (to confirm reboot. You might notice that Milestone do not reboot by self which is normal)
Type: reboot (if you find Milestone do not reboot after you enter y as above mentioned)
Enjoy after the reboot... this works yes

u can type ls -l /data to see if it works

hey I'm just about to do the apps2sd for my milestone and was wondering which partitions if any did you make for the SD card? thanks
I'm assuming it needs at least ext2 and I'm about to set mine up with ext3, just want to make sure so I don't screw anything up
also just wanted to say if you haven't overclocked your milestone, definitely do it, just did mine yesterday, running at 1ghz and it is so amazing, downloads are insane, browser is quick and menus and everything are perfect, eat that X10

kittcoldfire said:
hey I'm just about to do the apps2sd for my milestone and was wondering which partitions if any did you make for the SD card? thanks
I'm assuming it needs at least ext2 and I'm about to set mine up with ext3, just want to make sure so I don't screw anything up
also just wanted to say if you haven't overclocked your milestone, definitely do it, just did mine yesterday, running at 1ghz and it is so amazing, downloads are insane, browser is quick and menus and everything are perfect, eat that X10
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haha ya i overclocked it but I do not go over 800mhz to risky plus gets pretty hot.
I made a ext 2 partion using unbuntu,.......partionmanager said it was partioned but would not work,app2sd did not see it. u can try it though but i recommend unbuntu let me know what happens

gemini002 said:
haha ya i overclocked it but I do not go over 800mhz to risky plus gets pretty hot.
I made a ext 2 partion using unbuntu,.......partionmanager said it was partioned but would not work,app2sd did not see it. u can try it though but i recommend unbuntu let me know what happens
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so I got it all running, partitioned with ext3, it seems to be working but it didn't push any of my existing apps over to the SD card, do you know if there's a script to do this? Or do I have to uninstall each and reinstall them? (tested that way and they seem to go to the SD card then)

kittcoldfire said:
so I got it all running, partitioned with ext3, it seems to be working but it didn't push any of my existing apps over to the SD card, do you know if there's a script to do this? Or do I have to uninstall each and reinstall them? (tested that way and they seem to go to the SD card then)
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ya uninstall reinstall had to do that too but hey it works

gemini002 said:
ya uninstall reinstall had to do that too but hey it works
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I had to reinstall everything and i rooted and did everything exactly the same way as i did before, but now for some reason it won't let me install the apps to sd... here's the errors I get
warnning/system/bin/busybox'exists,use -f to overwrite
warnning'/system/lib/modules/ext2.ko'exists,use -f to overwrite insmod: can't insert '/system/lib/modulesext2/ko':File exists
mkdir failed for /system/sd, File exists
mount: mounting /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 on /system/sd failed: device or resource busy
sorry, mount sd ext2 fail!!!!!
what the heck does this mean? how can i fix this?
I partitioned the sd card as... (16gb) 14.something gb fat32, 1gb ext3, 32mb linux swap

kittcoldfire said:
I had to reinstall everything and i rooted and did everything exactly the same way as i did before, but now for some reason it won't let me install the apps to sd... here's the errors I get
warnning/system/bin/busybox'exists,use -f to overwrite
warnning'/system/lib/modules/ext2.ko'exists,use -f to overwrite insmod: can't insert '/system/lib/modulesext2/ko':File exists
mkdir failed for /system/sd, File exists
mount: mounting /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 on /system/sd failed: device or resource busy
sorry, mount sd ext2 fail!!!!!
what the heck does this mean? how can i fix this?
I partitioned the sd card as... (16gb) 14.something gb fat32, 1gb ext3, 32mb linux swap
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busy box cannot be installed i had this error at first too .well u dont need linux swap so get rid of it what did u use to partion sd card i use unbuntu all other partioned card but it would not work only worked when i used unbuntu .unroot download open recovery 1.05(google it)root with open recovery and try again

gemini002 said:
busy box cannot be installed i had this error at first too .well u dont need linux swap so get rid of it what did u use to partion sd card i use unbuntu all other partioned card but it would not work only worked when i used unbuntu .unroot download open recovery 1.05(google it)root with open recovery and try again
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yeah it's okay, this morning I sat down with it and put on my programming hat and went through the script and modified it enough to make it fix all the errors I was getting, so I've got it all done, nice 144mb of free space on the phone, and back to overclocked, and everything is running nice and smooth!!

glad u got it working ...im I right about busybox causing the errors?

did u hear the bootloader has been cracked

nevermind - got it working, just had to ensure the partition is made the correct way in Ubuntu!

Hi apps2sd v1 is kinda old news and was much more complicated then that , are you sure your guide is complete for someone who hasnt done all that was needed to be done in previous version ?
Also I never applied this mod because I was wondering why there was a need for it .. with the 'davlik mem cache hack' I have tons of applications & widget installed , much more then I need in fact so yea you guys notice if the phone is faster or anything else after usin apps2sd ?
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did u hear the bootloader has been cracked
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it s not , or I guess it all depends on what you call cracked , whatever has been done to it is useless for us practically speaking , truth is we are in fact very close ( talking of a few weeks maximum a the speed its currently going )to running 'roms' on our stone !!!

DAGr8 said:
Hi apps2sd v1 is kinda old news and was much more complicated then that , are you sure your guide is complete for someone who hasnt done all that was needed to be done in previous version ?
Also I never applied this mod because I was wondering why there was a need for it .. with the 'davlik mem cache hack' I have tons of applications & widget installed , much more then I need in fact so yea you guys notice if the phone is faster or anything else after usin apps2sd ?
it s not , or I guess it all depends on what you call cracked , whatever has been done to it is useless for us practically speaking , truth is we are in fact very close ( talking of a few weeks maximum a the speed its currently going )to running 'roms' on our stone !!!
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it's faster with overclock module 4 sure plus i have tons of apps
the guide is straight forward just make sure u use unbuntu to partition
true but now no siginature is needed so custom roms on the way froyo was ported on sat to droid so we should get it in a few week heck maybe this week it is something worth doing now that we don't need no bootloader

DAGr8 said:
Hi apps2sd v1 is kinda old news and was much more complicated then that , are you sure your guide is complete for someone who hasn't done all that was needed to be done in previous version ?
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it is complete and works well, from what I can gather its just a script of the previous apps2sd so makes life a lot easier (with some obvious tweaks)
One part about it I do not like and am looking into how to change it is it goes and installs a heap of Telus libs/files in the OS as well as the UMTS/GSM files - nice to be able to do both Milestones at once, but a bit sloppy....time to tweak....
Just make sure the card is partitioned in a card reader and not via the phone in Ubuntu (its NOT unbuntu!!..lol) and there is no need for a swap partition.
And if you are not using gparted but the included 'disk utility' in Lucid, make sure you untick the 'Take Ownership' check box otherwise it will partition it for super user access only!
Took me 3 goes to get it done right but that was the only method of partitioning that would work for me with no errors
The only speed increase has been thanks to the Overclock module, just nice to see 140mb still free on the phone after installing many many apps - better than the 10mb I used to have free

gemini002 said:
true but now no siginature is needed so custom roms on the way froyo was ported on sat to droid so we should get it in a few week heck maybe this week it is something worth doing now that we don't need no bootloader
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Sorry dont get your hopes up but you are Wrong ... plain wrong
its not cracked
signature still needed
and Kexec aint workin yet either ..
Our best hope for custom roms is Kexec and it will most likely be up and runnin within a month ( fingers crossed )
This Forum is a great (1 of the best ) forum so unless you are able to boot something without signature by yourself please dont spread false information as others might think because it has been posted here its true .

ya i know the bad news

So App2SD will not be listed under Settings->Applications?
When i do ls -l /data, what should i expect to see if it works? If it didnt work?

mischief4l said:
So App2SD will not be listed under Settings->Applications?
When i do ls -l /data, what should i expect to see if it works? If it didnt work?
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I'm going to guess you will get a list of apps that would be in the /data part of your sd card. Assuming that you have correctly installed for the lack of a better word App2SD...
~PsyCl0ne

uhm....help? lol
kittcoldfire said:
yeah it's okay, this morning I sat down with it and put on my programming hat and went through the script and modified it enough to make it fix all the errors I was getting, so I've got it all done, nice 144mb of free space on the phone, and back to overclocked, and everything is running nice and smooth!!
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I had the same error as you did earlier about the 'sorry, mount sd ext2 fail!!!!!' issue. I'm not a programmer, but can you please detail how'd you get around this problem? I use Windows 7, and have the milestone plugged in on 'charge only'. Am I missing a step here?
Please advise what the heck I'm doing wrong here and thanks. :]
Az

Restore apps FROM FAT32 (android.secure)???

First off, I have searched this site and google and have turned up no answers.
As we all know (hopefully) the new froyo ROMs feature the CM settings which allow us to install apps on the FAT32 partition of our SD card. Much more convenient than making the ext2/3/4. However, last night I installed about 75-100(ISH) apps onto my FAT32 with my freshly flashed SuperFly Froyo ROM by HTCClay. Awesome ROM, btw. So anyway this morn i go to turn the phone on and I get a G1 spash boot loop on the screen. Dont know why. Anyway -- I wiped everything, then flashed again and all was well and still is. However, all those APPS that i installed on my FAT32 are no longer there. But when i explore the SD card the android.secure file is still on my SDCARD with ALLL the .ASEC files on there --- how do i get this installed apps back on this fresh ROM??? They're still on the SD so there must be a way to get the back to show/launch from the launcher.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

Root explorer or even astro might do it
sent from superfroyo dream

Xx12thANG3LxX said:
Root explorer or even astro might do it
sent from superfroyo dream
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I doubt they will not. Apps2FAT write encrypted files to SD and do a loop-mount to access them. So the root explorer will not be able to re-create this mounts. Probably one of the a2sd - experts aka Firerat can write a script to restore them, but also here I doubt it will not be possible, sorry.
Apps2FAT in my opinion is a failure. Use apps2ext and you are fine. Only my 2 cent.
Sent from my Htcclay's Superfly G1 using XDA App

Just use EStrongs File Explorer and with its App Manager use backup option on app you want to backup, it will place .apk in /sdcard/backup/apps by default. For me it's easiest way to extract apk from your phone. It don't matter if app is on FAT32, ext or in internal memory.

raven_raven said:
Just use EStrongs File Explorer and with its App Manager use backup option on app you want to backup, it will place .apk in /sdcard/backup/apps by default. For me it's easiest way to extract apk from your phone. It don't matter if app is on FAT32, ext or in internal memory.
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Yes, as long as you have a running system and the FAT-aps are mounted, but he did already a wipe. So all connections and mount points are destroyed and so the sytem will see only encrypted files on SD ...

[Q] Honeycomb Root, GApps, Market, etc

Alright, so I'm 100% brand new to the Nook. Infact, I don't even have it yet, but I'm buying it tomorrow (3/3)
If I'm going to use honeycomb on it, do I just simply pop in the SD card and it's ready to go?
Do I need to root it before hand or is it already rooted?
How do I get GApps and Market running?
I honestly looked around a bit but I'm terribly confused. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
EDIT: Also, I can't even seem to get the IMG burned onto my microSD. Win32 Disk Imager keeps spitting back that the SD card doesn't have enough space, but it's an 8GB card with nothing on it, so it has plenty.

1) No, you don't have to root first - just pop in the uSD card and you are good to go.
2) To install Market and GApps you will have to install ADB on your primary machine first (which can be a PITA). There is all sorts of help around to do that. I downloaded a script (search for HoneyGapps.v2 here) that did the install for me in one step.
3) From what I understand the image is too large for Win32 Disk Imager. I used WinImage and it worked fine.
BTW - I am loving HC - I've adopted it completely. My major problem is that many apps are not showing up in the Market, even though they were installed and ran fine on my rooted 2.1 system. I think it is because the Market does not recognize the device name under HC 0.4.

How do I use WinImage to do that?
Sorry, but that program just confuses me, lol

First you use winImage and click disk then restore image. Make sure you have all files selted when looking for the file to restore. Are you going to install it to internal or on a USB card ?

Trying from SD card first unless it's too slow. If I want to install on internal, how do I backup my original Nook data?
Also, I figured out WinImage, I'm burning it now. I used another program, but that didn't do anything when I powered on the Nook. I shouldn't have to do -anything- before booting from the SD, right? The Nook is brand new, I popped in the SD card and it didn't work. We'll see what happens after WinImage burns it though

The SD version is kinda slow and if you look there is a Honeycomb EEMC V4 install that has the google apps and other goodies Installed. It has all you need already put in it. In the post you will find all the links and info needed to install. You just mount your nook like normal to your computer and copie the files from internal memory.
here is the Link use the version 2 dated 2-21
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=947071

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The SD version is kinda slow and if you look there is a Honeycomb EEMC V4 install that has the google apps and other goodies Installed. It has all you need already put in it. In the post you will find all the links and info needed to install. You just mount your nook like normal to your computer and copie the files from internal memory.
here is the Link use the version 2 dated 2-21
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=947071
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Haha, I had just started reading that a second ago actually. It lists a lot of problems. Are those problems present in the SD card version as well? Also, is Froyo more stable?

I have been running version 2 for a lil while and it runs smooth. I haven't had any real issues from it. I put it on my wife's nook also. It runs smooth and every app I have installed runs with no issues.

OK, I'm gonna try the script for GApps in a second. Where can I find the drivers for the Nook? I already have ADB installed, I've rooted 3 phones before this, so I got ADB usage down...
EDIT: Also, where can I find info on partitioning the SD card so I can still use it?

Honeycomb is built for tablets and sems more fluid. All are really development builds. We will all be waiting on the devs and google for the actual honeycomb

Which are you going to do the Sd or Internal ? If you load the version 2 internal it already has the Google apps included.

I haven't found a way to backup my original Nook data before installing it on internal. SD card works just fine, as long as I can find a way to partition it so I can still use it as an SD card. Either way, I still need the ADB drivers and the one thread I found so far has a broken link. Boo!

If you install it to internal you can then reformat the sd card and use it as normal.

OK, but then how do I back up the current internal memory and I still need a link to the ADB drivers in case I want to run off SD.

Use my USB mass storage utility (see dev). Make .tar files of internal data and system content.
To restore extract content back onto data and system.
Of course, if you get adb working, make dd images of partitions.. more conventionnal backup than above..
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Alternatively, can't I just have someone send me their files?

Bump? Anyone?
EDIT: Also, how do I get ADB working if I do the internal HC?

gmap516 said:
Bump? Anyone?
EDIT: Also, how do I get ADB working if I do the internal HC?
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All your questions in this thread can be answered by doing a little work searching around... you shouldn't expect a personal tutor...
If you put a little of your own effort, you will learn much more than following someone's instructions.

Thanks man, that was helpful. I definitely didn't use the search tool before.

gmap516 said:
Thanks man, that was helpful. I definitely didn't use the search tool before.
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See? You're learning already then.