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Moving couch = Broken Tilt

I'm assuming I smashed my At&t tilt or something, there is no cracks on the screen or anything, but the pic below shows the display I get. I'll have the phone for about a year in about 2 weeks. Anyone have an idea as to how much At&t or HTC will charge to fix this or am I better off buying a new phone? Or any ideas as to what could be broken and how it can be fixed? It doesn't allow me to do a hard reset. Thanks

well i don't know if warranty will cover it or not but you are still under your one year warranty so you could try to get a replacement. Its hard to say what could be causing it. You can check out mike channon's articles on disassembling a kaiser.
Good luck.

brianlb said:
I'm assuming I smashed my At&t tilt or something, there is no cracks on the screen or anything, but the pic below shows the display I get. I'll have the phone for about a year in about 2 weeks. Anyone have an idea as to how much At&t or HTC will charge to fix this or am I better off buying a new phone? Or any ideas as to what could be broken and how it can be fixed? It doesn't allow me to do a hard reset. Thanks
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Well to my trained eye, it looks as though you have actually cracked the lcd screen. This damage isnt generally covered by any manufacturers standard warranty. Unless you purchased an extra warranty including accidental damage, I think its up to you to repair yourself unless you want to spend 400USD + for the repair. Taking it apart isnt terribly difficult and I have seen links to lcd screens posted all over for no more than 100USD. Check Ebay also.
http://cgi.ebay.com/LCD-Replacemet-...39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Here is one for 45 USD
Hope this helps ya

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Well to my trained eye, it looks as though you have actually cracked the lcd screen. This damage isnt generally covered by any manufacturers standard warranty. Unless you purchased an extra warranty including accidental damage, I think its up to you to repair yourself unless you want to spend 400USD + for the repair. Taking it apart isnt terribly difficult and I have seen links to lcd screens posted all over for no more than 100USD. Check Ebay also.
http://cgi.ebay.com/LCD-Replacemet-...39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Here is one for 45 USD
Hope this helps ya
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I don't see a crack in the screen. Can there still be a crack in it that isn't visible or not noticeable until you take it apart? If that's the case I'll either buy a new screen or just buy a new phone on ebay for 200bux. Also anyone have any recommended sites on how to replace the screen?

This raises a great question for me. i work in a clean room/static sensative environment and repair and calibrate many different types of electronics (mostly signal generators & spectrum analyzers). I was wondering if anyone here has actually attempted to replace a LCD screen with success. And if so, how complicated the process was. I have downloaded the schematical drawings and have found replacement parts for the kaiser online for extremely cheap. i will post the site as soon as i find it again.

I did a screen replacement on a Wizard, and it wasn't that difficult. just make sure you don't break anything while trying to pry small pieces off to get to the screen.

Stu_Can_Sam said:
This raises a great question for me. i work in a clean room/static sensative environment and repair and calibrate many different types of electronics (mostly signal generators & spectrum analyzers). I was wondering if anyone here has actually attempted to replace a LCD screen with success. And if so, how complicated the process was. I have downloaded the schematical drawings and have found replacement parts for the kaiser online for extremely cheap. i will post the site as soon as i find it again.
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ITs easy as hell.
I've done it two times with success.
Its only matter of two connection belts and thats all at all .
Screen replacement is really easy here.

brianlb said:
I don't see a crack in the screen. Can there still be a crack in it that isn't visible or not noticeable until you take it apart? If that's the case I'll either buy a new screen or just buy a new phone on ebay for 200bux. Also anyone have any recommended sites on how to replace the screen?
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Generally you will NOT see a physical crack on the surface. The surface is actually JUST a digitizer ( a separate piece which is built into or ontop of your LCD for input purposes ). The digitizer is basically your touch screen portion of the LCD. What is actually cracked is the thin film below that which contains all of the liquid crystals.
As far as the replacement goes, I believe it is Michael Channon who has the step by step instructions on how to disassemble and replace the LCD. It isnt a hard task from what I can tell. I had taken my hermes ( Tytan ) apart so many times that i could do it in my sleep. Its not a terribly difficult process.
Here is Michaels Guide
Its not in English but its not hard to follow the pictures. He has done a great job at documenting the procedure.
If you are a bit scared to try it yourself, have a geeky friend do it for you ( maybe get him a date to a movie or something lol )
It should only cost you no more than 50$USD to repair ( Minus the bribe for a date lol )
Hope this helps you out !

pyraxiate said:
Generally you will NOT see a physical crack on the surface. The surface is actually JUST a digitizer ( a separate piece which is built into or ontop of your LCD for input purposes ). The digitizer is basically your touch screen portion of the LCD. What is actually cracked is the thin film below that which contains all of the liquid crystals.
As far as the replacement goes, I believe it is Michael Channon who has the step by step instructions on how to disassemble and replace the LCD. It isnt a hard task from what I can tell. I had taken my hermes ( Tytan ) apart so many times that i could do it in my sleep. Its not a terribly difficult process.
Here is Michaels Guide
Its not in English but its not hard to follow the pictures. He has done a great job at documenting the procedure.
If you are a bit scared to try it yourself, have a geeky friend do it for you ( maybe get him a date to a movie or something lol )
It should only cost you no more than 50$USD to repair ( Minus the bribe for a date lol )
Hope this helps you out !
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Thx, I'm gonna give it a shot. I went ahead and bought the screen off ebay from the post by pyraxiate. Worst case I mess it up and buy a new phone of ebay for 150-200, which is what I originally thought I'd have to do, so this at least gives me a chance to save some $$$

brianlb said:
Thx, I'm gonna give it a shot. I went ahead and bought the screen off ebay from the post by pyraxiate. Worst case I mess it up and buy a new phone of ebay for 150-200, which is what I originally thought I'd have to do, so this at least gives me a chance to save some $$$
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Let us know how it goes
Glad I could help

Got it all done, actually my pops did it. Works great, he took it apart just like the Mike Channon pics show, don't know if you had to do all of it or not just to replace the screen, but he did. Only one little annoying thing now that it's back together is that a small part of the black plastic out case hangs out just a tab and isn't flush, which makes it a little annoying when hitting the power/standby button on the right side of the phone. But I can learn to live with that I think. thanks for all the help.

congratulations!
good to hear you've achieved a successful repair!
correct me if i'm wrong...are you saying that the two halves of the phone (screen and keyboard) don't align properly when the keyboard is closed? if so, i remember a thread in this section of the kaiser forums that details (with pictures) how to possibly fix that particular problem!!!
"search and ye shall foundeth it !!!"

brianlb said:
Got it all done, actually my pops did it. Works great, he took it apart just like the Mike Channon pics show, don't know if you had to do all of it or not just to replace the screen, but he did. Only one little annoying thing now that it's back together is that a small part of the black plastic out case hangs out just a tab and isn't flush, which makes it a little annoying when hitting the power/standby button on the right side of the phone. But I can learn to live with that I think. thanks for all the help.
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Im glad i could help Im also glad to hear the phone is up and running again
As was stated before, there is a thread for the case not aligning. I did some quick looking but to no avail. If i come across it ill be sure to post it

I'm not sure if I'm explaining it correctly. But it's basically the outer case, and around the power button it's not flush. Not sure if you can tell from my pics. I tried also doing a search w/no luck. I'm sure there is some specific name or something other than case that it's under.

When i replaced my faceplate i had the same problem. all i did was push it in...kinda hard, and it poped in, or you could use a plasic flathead and pop it back in...

DemoShadow said:
When i replaced my faceplate i had the same problem. all i did was push it in...kinda hard, and it poped in, or you could use a plasic flathead and pop it back in...
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I tried that, and it doesn't seem to pop in at all.

I think its just like DemoShadow said. I dropped mine once and it seems to be a similar issue. I also just pushed really hard to get it to pop back in. I think its just that clip isnt in place as it should be when it was put back together. If anything, try to take it apart and put it back together

kristoff_sz said:
ITs easy as hell.
I've done it two times with success.
Its only matter of two connection belts and thats all at all .
Screen replacement is really easy here.
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how did you put the keyboard back on????????????????

Can you be more specific?
Hey,
I literally just replaced the screen on my backup Tilt last night. Still got most of it in my head.
What, exactly, do you mean about putting the keyboard back on? Got any pics of where you are now?
This was one of the easiest things I've had to do...asside from it being somewhat tedious. Most of my issues were resolved by MAGNIFICATION! Once I could see what I was doing, there were almost no issues.
I only paid $31.99 on eBay for a screen with free shipping (from USA no less)...less than the $35 I would have had to pay with the insurance through my Provider Dealer...and I didn't have to wait for 3-5 weeks to get it back.
I'd do this for people with broken screens as a service, but I can't guarantee the cost of the screen...it goes up and down too much.
If you can be real descriptive, or have pictures, I'm pretty sure I can help get you back together.
Let me know, I'll keep an eye on this thread...
RAF

here's some dismantling guides
http://www.mikechannon.net/page1.html
you dont have to remove the keyboard to replace the LCD, unless u're talking about the outer keypad, which just sits in its spot

Cracked Screen

Hey,
Just looking for some advice where I should go for a cheap solution on how to fix my phone. Basically, everything still works great! Apart from the big crack, the screen doesn't seem to have been damaged (eg. All the pixels look fine, touch still works, only glass/plastic panel is cracked)
I'm actually really impressed by how it took such a hard hit and the device works fine, the screen didn't even smash! Basically it nudged in between my car seat where you close the door, didn't realise it fell out my pocket and closed the door (you could imagine it would be a hard hit) and the phone lives.
If I just needed the glass replaced, can it be done DIY? Or should I not bother and give it to a service centre? I got it from 3 but I know they'll probably overcharge me for something like this..
Any suggestions welcome, thanks!

if the damage is only to the exterior screen then you may want to consider getting this:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/17042.htm

be carful! the screen from my firlfreidns diamond is broken too and I had ordered one of those touchscreens... but the screen which comes has no "window" for the frontcamera and after disassembling the phone I saw that it is NOT POSSIBLE to remove the touchscreenglas from the frame.

Replacement LCD & Digitiser
I recently replaced an lcd and digitiser on a HTC Touch Diamond. I bought the complete screen (lcd & digitiser) as one pre-assembled unit from a guy on Ebay (£34.99). Fits straight into the front of the unit frame. I don't think you can remove just the digitiser because it is stuck onto the LCD, and the LCD itself is very fragile. Disassembly is fairly straight forward if you've got the right tools.

Thanks for all your help guys! I've just been bogged down with work so havn't been able to get back here for awhile.
I've taken some time to look into the webiste and others, decided to just order it off ebay in the end anyways. However, taking note from the previous 2 posts, would I be wasting my time ordering just the digitiser itself? I would assume that's what HerrVorragend also meant by "that it is NOT POSSIBLE to remove the touchscreenglas from the frame."
If so, why do they bother selling them online separately? I guess I won't really find an answer, just seems stupid to me. Anyways, guess I'm stuck purchasing both LCD + Digitiser but as a final question, does anyone have any guidelines as how I should replace this myself? I'm very paranoid about this sort of thing because it's only 1 month old, however, I have also replaced an LCD on my old Nokia 6280 before using a step-by-step picture guide online.
Don't think I'd have much luck finding one for this model, hey.. haha.
Once again, thanks!

Double posted, sorry.

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If so, why do they bother selling them online separately? I guess I won't really find an answer, just seems stupid to me. Anyways, guess I'm stuck purchasing both LCD + Digitiser but as a final question, does anyone have any guidelines as how I should replace this myself? I'm very paranoid about this sort of thing because it's only 1 month old, however, I have also replaced an LCD on my old Nokia 6280 before using a step-by-step picture guide online.
Don't think I'd have much luck finding one for this model, hey.. haha.
Once again, thanks!
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If you google for HTC Diamond Service Manual, that will help greatly with assembly and disassembly - there are also a couple of videos on Youtube. From my experience the most tricky part is re-connecting the two flex connectors when you re-install the main board. I use the back of a pair of tweezers to slide underneath the connector carefully. If you are nervous about doing it and happy to cover postage costs, I can replace the LCD for you - PM me for details and I'll see what i can do.
Andy

Replace Digitizer only?

My touch screen stopped working on my phone, but the screen is still visible. I'm assuming it's the digitizer. I was wondering if anybody has done or tried replacing only the digitizer. Does this work, is it better just to replace both? Any suggestions? Thanks.

Save yourself the headache
Just replace the complete screen unit (lcd + digitizer).
The digitizer is held on the screen with some super strong adhesive that is nearly impossible to get off cleanly. Also, there are three (4?) thin ribbon tabs that have to be soldered to the board on the rear of the lcd. Unless you are really confident with a soldering iron, it is extremely hard to do.
I replaced my screen unit in about a half hour. Make sure you go to the wiki and find one of the excellent disassembly guides before you start.

Thanks
Thanks, that's exactly the information i needed to know. I found the fon logix video. Is it only a t6 tool i need, or do i also need a t5. I have seen conflicting info on this? Thanks again.

I got my scren unit from ebay, and it included a torx driver and a plastic case tool. I honestly can't remember what size came in the kit, because I used my own torx set. Im pretty sure its just the one size, though.
Good luck!

You might find this information interesting.
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&thread.id=116836

Disregard ............

i always replace only the touch screen. okay i've done it aprox 30 times. But i never broke one.
if you decide to replace only the touchscreen, there are 2 types. thus check which on you have, and i found out that sometimes reassamble, and cleaning can help.
good luck.
torx is 5 and 6, 6 for opening the back of the phone, 5 for the screen part removal of the body and opening it. you need an opening tool!!

adhesive
is there a terrible adhesive between the screen and digitizer, as the second poster mentioned? how difficult is it to deal with?

just cut away with snapoff knives. It wil break in more pieses. (the glas that is) just be carefull, and take your time

Thanks
Thanks for all of the info, i went ahead and purchased the screen with the digitizer and tools. One thing i have noticed though is the d-pad has stopped working also, i'm using a custom rom so i'm not sure if it's just that or it's something else. i will prob re-image after i replace screen.

Abel2007 said:
just cut away with snapoff knives. It wil break in more pieses. (the glas that is) just be carefull, and take your time
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Well, guess I was a smarty pants and bought my stuff before consulting XDA...as such, I ONLY bought the touchscreen rather than the entire new unit. Cheaper, yes, but I had no idea about the adhesive until just now. My only question is, once I remove the old screen from the LCD with a razor blade, how do I affix the new one?
Anyone?

i would love to know this too because i have to also replace my digitizer!

drokkon said:
Well, guess I was a smarty pants and bought my stuff before consulting XDA...as such, I ONLY bought the touchscreen rather than the entire new unit. Cheaper, yes, but I had no idea about the adhesive until just now. My only question is, once I remove the old screen from the LCD with a razor blade, how do I affix the new one?
Anyone?
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I used rtv gasket maker the transparent blue one worked well.
you can find it in automotive section. Actually any silcone will work.
also can use double sided tape but needs to be very thin

I've already changing my digitizer, but it doesn't seem to work. So I've change the whole part. cost me $20 more on ebay.
my advice is to change the whole package with the lcd too.

Replacement Kaiser Housing Parts

Hey people, I’m a long time reader of this forum but this is one of my first posts. Also, I am sorry if I have written this in the wrong place as I was slightly unsure which section to put this in.
Basically I am looking to replace the housing on my Kaiser as it has become damaged over time and now the keyboard doesn’t work. The problem I am having though is that I also need to replace the little sticky triangle thing that goes in the corner above part of the sliding mechanism as I have lost it. The reason for this is that when I bought replacement housing in the past it only includes one screw for the right hand side of the sliding mechanism and my guess would be that they expected you to superglue the little triangle bit over the other side or something. But I managed to ruin it and then lose it. Lol
Anyway all the places I have checked seem to only sell replacement housing without the sticky triangle bit and that strip that goes above the keyboard (which I havnt lost, but it would be nice getting a new clean looking one). So I was wondering if anyone knows of anywhere that sells these? (Either with or without the rest of the housing)
I have included a picture showing what parts I mean as I realise my explanation may be slightly confusing.
Thank you in advanced for any advice.

Check www.ppctechs.com

thanks for your suggestion. unfortunately that site doesnt have what im looking for.

cnn.cn has quite a bit of HTC replacement parts, try there.

Once again, thank you for your help, but unfortunately that site doesn't have what I'm looking for either. It's quite strange how its proving so difficult to get hold of these parts as I'm sure other people have encountered the same problem. Strangest of all is how these parts are not included in the full housing replacement kits.

[Q] Screen Cracked [Question(s) on how to fix it]

Hi, I recently got my HTC One (m7 / at&t) as a graduation present in June. Unfortunately I recently dropped it face down without its case onto the ground and resulted in a large crack(s) on the screen. I can still use the device, text, talk, watch videos etc.. but as you can obviously tell one does not simply enjoy the pleasure of having their phone(s) screen cracked.
So I immediately began looking for a solution and repair shops said 300$ to fix when I purchased my phone for just a little over 300$. So that is out of the question, unless its truely my last resort. So I began looking on how to fix it, youtube failed me the only thing that was helpful were the breakdown videos of the HTC One teaching me how to take apart the phone (The only part I was interested in was on taking out the glass).
The only solution I currently can think of would to repair it myself. So here are my questions.
1) The screen is cracked only, the touch screen works fine etc.. so can someone show me the listing on ebay/amazing (I prefer amazon) of the kit or things I would need to fix it.
I Saw this one:
amazon /HTC-M7-screen-digitizer-replacement/dp/B00CWKGZ5U/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1376517625&sr=8-5&keywords=HTC+One+Glass
Because it looks like exactly what I Need, BUT I'm no expert so would that fix my problem? Or is it the wrong thing since all I need is the glass and thats the "Digitizer Outter Glass" or something? I dont know my terms that well but to me it seems like what I need because its the "Outter Glass" haha.
But I'm confused about that because it says Digitizer outter glass and in the picture has the connection cord thing, Would this be replacing every part having to deal with the screen? (i.e I take a suction cup and take out the screen, and unplug the connection from the phone to the screen, would what I having in my phone (cracked screen with cord..) be the same thing as what Ill be ordering from that amazon thing but NOT cracked?)
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2) How would I replace it step by step? I already seen videos of taking the phone apart and replacing iPhone screens but I havent seen any towards the HTC One in regards to replacing the screen. So would someone mind pointing me in the right direction, or giving me a text tutorial on what to do? I can pretty much figure it out by reading it since I have videos n pictures to compare it to sorta.
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3) I never done a repair before but it doesnt seem that hard, just have to be gentle and know what youre doing (Thus why im asking so many questions), is this my best option? Or what should I do...
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4) When I seen videos regarding the iPhone screen replacement it was showing things like Screen Seal / and him literally taking off the glass from the this other thing and replacing just the glass itself instead of the thing below it.
Would I have to also use a type of screen seal / or have to take glass off like you would do in the iPhone or is it a 100% different conecpt / idea?
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Remember: I basically need to know what I need to fix the cracked screen of my phone, I think this is what i need:
amazon /HTC-M7-screen-digitizer-replacement/dp/B00CWKGZ5U/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1376517625&sr=8-5&keywords=HTC+One+Glass
So if it is, then may someone tell me how to replace my phones cracked screen using that and explain it to me what im actually doing and watch each part is etc.. (like what im buying and whats cracked with my phone, so I know its what I need)
and if not, can someone tell me what I need and how to do it?
PS I understand I cant post outside links, but its amazon and Im not trying to advertise i just need the link as a comparison / example

This is one of the worst phones created when it comes to repair. It is well made, but ease of repair was not their priority. The only thing I can recommend to you would be to go to the Ifixit web site. They do a tear down of the phone to show how hard it is to repair. Maybe that will help you out.
Edit: In your original post, you wrote that you had watched videos on the Iphone. Since this is a different phone with differences in assembly, I suggested a video concerning this specific phone. Not trying to be rude, but if I was taking apart my HTC, I would view specific videos concerning my phone. I thought that the specific video might give you clues as to the parts involved in assembly and what procedures were necessary. The video I was referring to concerned their taking apart an HTC One. Every bit of information might be helpful to you trying to fix your problem.

Wolf said:
This is one of the worst phones created when it comes to repair. It is well made, but ease of repair was not their priority. The only thing I can recommend to you would be to go to the Ifixit web site. They do a tear down of the phone to show how hard it is to repair. Maybe that will help you out.
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Not being rude but I'm pretty sure I already stated the fact that I seen the videos and tutorials regarding the tear down of the phone. So how do you expect that to "maybe" help me out? If I'm trying ti find out the part(s) I need to replace since I don't know the full termology.
I know how to take my phone apart (For the most part), I Just need to know mainly what I need to replace to fix my cracked screen, or whats my best solution. + The questions i stated in the thread.
Thank you.

Unfortunately you will have to change the whole screen assembly.
This will cost you a little ... http://www.etradesupply.com/oem-htc...itizer-assembly-with-front-housing-white.html
You could try also just the LCD+ digitizer (if the front aluminum parts are still intact: http://www.etradesupply.com/oem-htc-one-lcd-screen-and-digitizer-assembly.html
If you scratched the back of the phone, those guys have the back assembly also ... about 24 USD ... ( http://www.etradesupply.com/oem-htc-one-rear-housing.html )
You could TRY replacing only the digitizer ( http://www.etradesupply.com/oem-htc-one-digitizer-touch-screen.html ) but I would not go there. In between the digitizer (what is actually cracked in your case) and the lcd there is a special "jelly" glue which is VERY hard to remove w/o breaking the LCD. I tried that on a N7 and now I'm waiting for a new LCD to be delivered ...
Good luck!

Thank you, I appreciate the reply.
My casing / housing isnt broken (The cracks start from the top of the screen right below the camera/speakers where the glass is, and the crack(s) end towards the HTC Logo etc..) so should I still buy the white housing with lcd+digitizer or should I just go with the second option and buy the digitizer+lcd without the housing (second link you gave me)

JohnVerde said:
Thank you, I appreciate the reply.
My casing / housing isnt broken (The cracks start from the top of the screen right below the camera/speakers where the glass is, and the crack(s) end towards the HTC Logo etc..) so should I still buy the white housing with lcd+digitizer or should I just go with the second option and buy the digitizer+lcd without the housing (second link you gave me)
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Let us know how it went. :good:

Not sure if it's worth it. HTC will fix it for you somewhere around $180.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app

JohnVerde said:
Hi, I recently got my HTC One (m7 / at&t) as a graduation present in June. Unfortunately I recently dropped it face down without its case onto the ground and resulted in a large crack(s) on the screen. I can still use the device, text, talk, watch videos etc.. but as you can obviously tell one does not simply enjoy the pleasure of having their phone(s) screen cracked.
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Hi,
I posted a lengthy thread on how to do a repair here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387992
Did it well over a month ago and it is still running fine.

You might want to call you household insurance, and tell them someone in your household (not you) dropped the phone while cleaning for example.
Here in the Netherlands, they will pay the repair even the same day.
I didn't had to send them anything, just tell them on the phone how much the reparations would cost, and they transfered the complete numeber right away!
Too bad I found that out after spending more than $100,- on phone reparations.
It might be worth the shot, since they may reimburse it for you.